Hi folks,
I have a T-mobile dash (WM5) with a data plan (but no blackberry plan). My new employer uses only Palm OS Treo's and Blackberries for mobile corp email - although they use Outlook for desktop corp email !
The IT guys were a little puzzled with the Windows Mobile Device ! Anyway, I was wondering if there is a way to
1) Use my T-mobile dash's data plan
2) Along with a WM5 app
3) to connect to my corp blackberry's server.
I downloaded the WM5 blackberry app but it doesn't seem to connect anywhere, nor could I figure out how to set it up. Is there a step by step guide somewhere ?
Also, is that app very similar to the Treo/blackberries ? Then I could simply give my dash+BB connect to the IT guys and they could configure it (if the UI etc are similar to blackberries ... they know only treos and blackberries).
On a final note, I wanted to convince the head IT tech to support WM5 Outlook 'officially'. For this I need some information on how easy, secure it is to deploy this setup. Their current exchange server is mostly inside the corp firewall, so copying the desktop outlook settings to the dash doesn't work (desktop is inside corp firewall, dash is outside).
Thanks folks
Sid
Hello Sid!
I just came from a similar scenario- here's how I resolved my issues.
To be able to support direct push in Microsoft Exchange, a patch has to be applied to the server (The patch is called "Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) for Windows Mobile 5.0"). Direct Push allows your WM device to be in constant communication with the exchange server by pinging the exchange box for any changes to that user account (email). When a new email arrives in your inbox, your phone then downloads the new message. You can also sync your contacts, calendar, etc.
Unfortunately, my company has not applied this patch yet. When I went from my blackberry to WM5 device, they were not thrilled.
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
If you are interested in learning more about T-Mobile's MyEmail, go to:
http://www.myemail.t-mobile.com
For more information regarding Microsoft's Direct Push Technology, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/directpush.mspx
Cheers
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Hello Sid!
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
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But my corp email isin't POP or IMAP ... its exchange and blackberry. So while its a good suggestion, it won't help my situation. (?) I tried setting up my email via the "setup my email icon" but it doesn't work.
Also, exchange is inside the firewall so only "real" computers can access it via VPN/corp ethernet. Blackberry is outside the firewall. This is why my WM5 outlook can't even reach the real outlook server. I think I have two options
1) convince them to setup Exchange to talk to mobile devices
--> I'm going to forward your link to the IT guys so they can evaluate this option - thanks!
2) make my own WM5 device look/work reasonably similar to the Treo/Blackberries they are used to configuring. Then say "please set this up like a blackberry like you normally do".
For 2) I think I have found the app (bb connect?) but don't know
2.1) how to configure it
2.2) if it's the latest version (where do I get the latest version?)
2.3) If having just the data plan is good enough or do I need the special blackberry plan for this to work.
Hope that sheds more light .... thanks folks
Sid
Stoneage
Hi,
I have the same problem, only there's no convincing my IT department to support WM5 device. It supports only BB that are company property.
I have an external outlook privately setup with push mail and an alias for my corporate email, but the it seems like the redirect and auto forward rules I've defined in my outlook are forbidden or something, since they won't forward the mails I get from my exchange account to my external account.
Any idea how to go around this?
Some outlook plugin/software that will automatically forward mails to my external account?
Thanks.
Why don't you just get a blackberry data plan added to your account and use the blackberry connect client? That is all you need, as long as IT setup an account on your BES server at work.
Not that simple
If only life was that simple.
Not everybody can get a BB in our company and the IT department will not support devices that aren't owned by the company.
So, I'm looking for the workaround.
Hi
May be its not the best place to post this question but I will try it any way
I'm looking for a solution to manage and restrict centrally the attachment from the Exchange Server, a way to enforce a policy which restrict the sync of an attachment or even allowing just syncing the calender and preventing syncing the inbox
do any one have a solution or a name of a product?
10x
I will be amazed if there's a third party product/app that does this. I would just play with the Exchange Server settings and see if you select which folders can be synced?
How about just downloading the first 10k of the messages??
My emails dont arrive with attachments unless i tap the attachment, which then makes the device download it.
the main problem is that a corporate may allow to expose its business assets through the use of PDA's. restricting the sync of attachment in the mail, contact , task or calender may allow a safer use of the push mail. today i have seen that many corporate disallow the use of PDA's because of this.
I haven't seen a solution for this issue except encrypting the PIM which holds the data, but this solution have its own disadvantage.
Did any one tried parsing the HTTP communication and block some request without impacting the sync process ?, something like a reverse proxy
About a year ago I tried tackling getting our ActiveSync from our Exchange server working with my AT&T 8525. At that time we were in no position to alter Exchange settings and we run out OWA service on a non-standard port. The ActiveSync client has no way to specify a port other than 80 for HTTP or 443 if you are using SSL.
Flash forward a year and it's now working seemlessly after an executive in our company bought an iPhone2 and demanded that it work with our Exchange 2K3 server. So we bought a cert from Verisign, opened up SSL and bam, it all worked. For his phone, mine and a couple others in the company.
The latest "undocumented feature" I'm looking at is Outlook Messaging notifications on my phone. I have a rule that takes emails destined for our department (most of them high priority) into a subfolder of my Inbox. Anything addressed directly to me stays in my Inbox folder. Now here's the part that is bugging me.
As long as the message isn't filtered to a different subfolder and comes straight into my inbox folder, I get the notification (audible and visual) I expect. If the message is filtered into any of the subfolders, I see the folder label go bold, indicating a new message has arrived, but I get no audible or visual notification at all. It only notifies me if something lands in my Inbox. All other messages show but no alerts.
I read on an iPhone forum where they were having a similar problem and on some other forums users report similar experiences with WinMo devices such as the Blackjack and other phones.
Clearly, it appears to be a shortcoming of Outlook Messaging on WinMo. My question is; is there a registry edit or possible solution to make Messaging on ActiveSync give a notification even if the message gets filtered into a subfolder?
I've seen people workaround the issue by disabling filters when they are not at their desktop so that all message come to the inbox of the phone, then reenable the rules when they are at their desktop. While this would work, it's a clunky solution IMO.
Has anyone ever found a workaround to this? Is this shortcoming fixed in WinMo 6.1? I'm running WinMo6 VP3G AT&T Official ROM (for over a year and still happy with it!)
Thanks for any insight.
make the move rule into a "On this machine only" so that when you open outlook on your desktop, the rule will fire and move the mail, otherwise it will stay in your Inbox
The question on my mind is, will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?
I don't care about the emails but Contacts, Appointments & Tasks are important.
I hear about the Outlook connector but it seems to me that my PIM data will be moved over to LIVE account and then get synced.
I have a personal and a business domain that are hosted somewhere and I use outlook to get all my emails. I don't want to sync/copy my personal & business contacts on windows live mail. I have been waiting for WP7 to come out in lieu of getting a new mobile and this is not encouraging.
I assume Zune software will be upgraded to do most of the job.
Have I been reading wrong articles? Please guide me and correct me.
from what i read contacts/appointments will only be through activesync. i don't believe tasks are working as of yet.
how are you connecting outlook to your personal and business domains? to get anything more than email alone (pop/imap), you would have to have some protocol (e.g. exchange) in place to allow the rest to flow through.
Thanks
I am using POP3 at the moment and I don't believe the hosting provider gives me IMAP but I can live with it.
So ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center will still work to sync? I heard any talking to the device will only be done via Zune Software!
i thought sop too.. that zune software will be doing the sync insted of the active sync or windows device manager...
as MS will have some provision to sync with outlook or express...
i am waiting for the devices to be out in the market..
dell and HTC HDD is the one i am looking for...
I posted a question in MSDN forums and I am not getting clears answers there.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...s/thread/fb28aeec-7dbb-4c92-890a-a7763ae82b60
The Windows Phone Radio podcast has answered this question and they say that there is full Outlook integration, and that's aside from the already robust Exchange ActiveSync capabilities.
Thank you. That is a sigh of relief. I am going to get one now as soon as possible.
Spoke too soon. Other posts clarify that it will not be supported.
I cannot believe that WP7 does not sync with outlook. This is a dealbreaker for me, I have to be able to sync my work laptops outlook calendar and contacts with my phone!!
I was just about to buy one, looks like I`ll be forced to buy android.
Bummer.
WP7 will sync with outlook but not OFFLINE outlook i.e. Outlook not connected to Exchange or Cloud. So if you want to move your contacts and all apointments from PST file to WP7, you have to sync them to the cloud first.
I was hunting around last night looking for a solution to this, and the only software I can find which will perform a periodic sync of my work outlook calendar up into the cloud is google calendar sync - the irony that I`m forced to use google to solve this problem is not lost on me!!
I know there is a microsoft supplied outlook addin for hotmail - but its not much good for this problem - you have to MANUALLY drag appointments from outlook calendar to get them up into the cloud.
I would be interested to hear how others are going to address this problem - are there other solutions out there??
Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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I think theres lot of ways round this, I just posted one method already!!!
Interested to hear how others will approach it.
That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
janemanno1 said:
That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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I hear you, and Im not super keen on the concept either.
The only smartphone that nativley supports local outlook sync is iphone.
Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
This doesn't sound encouraging.
I too have a similar issue. My company doesn't allow connecting to the Exchange server from personal phones and local Outlook sync was the only way for me to keep track of the meetings / tasks (also contacts) through my personal phone (Fuze).
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Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
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There is no specific technical barrier that stops this. Its a conscious design decision to leave it out.
And theres no guarantee that MS` new closed approach to WP7 will mean that 3rd parties are allowed to write a local sync solution, either. Time will tell on that one.
The cloud is the future, aparrently, like it or not.
I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Very little is out there about me that I don't want out there. There's a difference between what is out there and what PERSONAL information I have in Outlook, which includes my diary, past and present, things I need to do, notes I make, etc.
I plan to look at WP7 once the devices are out and find out how things work myself before making a judgement either way. At the moment it's all speculation because very few people have their hands on one.
So this has been driving me nuts recently. After adding my work email account to my new GS3 I keep getting this popup message telling me to update my security settings to access my account. After dismissing the message, sometimes I get email, sometimes I don't. After doing some digging it looks like this is a known issue between Samsung's ICS activesync module and Office 365. It's an issue dealing with provisioning and Samsung needs to fix it.
one of may threads at the office365 forum
The only "workaround" that seems to work reliably is buying different software to sync with Exchange, such as Touchdown.
Samsung needs to address this.
taiguy said:
So this has been driving me nuts recently. After adding my work email account to my new GS3 I keep getting this popup message telling me to update my security settings to access my account. After dismissing the message, sometimes I get email, sometimes I don't. After doing some digging it looks like this is a known issue between Samsung's ICS activesync module and Office 365. It's an issue dealing with provisioning and Samsung needs to fix it.
one of may threads at the office365 forum
The only "workaround" that seems to work reliably is buying different software to sync with Exchange, such as Touchdown.
Samsung needs to address this.
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I stick with the stock TW Email because of it's Exchange group support. I send email to 10+ people at a time, without group support I'm doomed and no other email app has it!!