Going back to Stock ROM, but my screen is dead. - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi all. I'm sending in my TP2 for warranty repairs on the screen. Screen is black, won't show anything, but the touch functionality works.
Anyways, I need to flash it back to Stock ROM, but am not sure what will happen if I cannot see it. If it works without having to interact with the phone, I should be ok, but if it bricks, I won't even be able to tell!
I don't think I will even attempt at relocking the SPL or bothering with the Radio, mainly because neither are available in Stock versions.
My question is, what is everyone's experience with not flashing back to a full Stock device for warranty repairs? Anyone ever gotten charged? Did Tmobile even notice
Thanks!

Try MyMoblier to Remote Control your phone.
Dave

I guess that would work since MyMobiler installs by itself via Activesync. Still wondering if I should go through all the trouble though...

I've read HTC refuse to service (or charge) if they find the OliNex SPL.
And rumour has it, they are actively looking for it.
Dave

Ok thanks. Just what I was looking for. I will go ahead and try and relock the SPL via MyMobiler. However, what should I relock it to since a Stock SPL isn't available? I know this probably belongs in the HardSPL thread, but do you know if an AT&T SPL would work ok for a T-Mobile phone?

dagawa said:
Ok thanks. Just what I was looking for. I will go ahead and try and relock the SPL via MyMobiler. However, what should I relock it to since a Stock SPL isn't available? I know this probably belongs in the HardSPL thread, but do you know if an AT&T SPL would work ok for a T-Mobile phone?
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Any of the Stock SPL's should be OK.
Dave

Well for some reason I cannot get MyMobiler to install by itself. Is there any other to view via PC or install a program without being able to see your screen?

Try this one:
Pocket controller

Thanks Orb! That actually worked. Luckily I knew where to press to authenticate a cab install... After installing my stock ROM I was able to use Pocket Controller to step through all the start-up procedures which were actually preventing me from relocking it back to a Stock SPL. Thanks againt
PS I would highly recommend AGAINST trying to take your device back to Stock with a dead screen. it's a pain in the butt!!

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IPL.SPL help!

Ok my screen broke today. Took it out of my pocket and it had cracked
Is there any app I can install on my phone to see the IPL and SPL versions? Or is there any other way I can fine out what I have?
yes there is an app called wiki search and i heard it works perfectly
anyhow press and hold left ok key + da power button and then use ur stylus to press down the soft reset key that should take you to da bootloader screen
Going into the bootloader to see this info is pointless. Screen is cracked and I cant see anything.
Go to the bootloader screen. Uncheck "allow USB" in Active Sync. Connect your unit with USB cable. (Download and) run MTTY program, choosing your unit, (not a comm port) for connection. Hit ENTER, to get a cmd prompt. Type "info 7" without the quotes. It will show you the bootloader info.
Examples:
USB>info 7
HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.50a
Device Name: H, Bootloader Version : 1.04
Built at: May 26 2006 20:17:35
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
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Have you tried "My Mobiler"? I got it from pocketpcfreewares - I'm sure it can be found elsewhere too. It includes the ability to view your phone screen right on your desktop PC, and should help you get through your current dilemma.
HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.50a
Device Name: H, Bootloader Version : 1.04
Built at: May 26 2006 20:17:35
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
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That is what I get. I downgraded from oli pro to SPL 1.04 so I am guessing this is correct?
is it safe to downgrade? Can I get my warranty if I downgrade to the original SPL?
Good luck having a cracked screen covered by warranty...
Yeah I know. Maybe I wont tell them the screen is cracked and just say it wont come one anymore that there is no light. I disabled the back light so it wont turn on except only on a reset. If it wont come on then how will I know its cracked?? Worth a shot I guess.
Phantisy said:
Yeah I know. Maybe I wont tell them the screen is cracked and just say it wont come one anymore that there is no light. I disabled the back light so it wont turn on except only on a reset. If it wont come on then how will I know its cracked?? Worth a shot I guess.
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It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
Zuckron said:
is it safe to downgrade? Can I get my warranty if I downgrade to the original SPL?
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Well, we would need some more info, like what your Hermes' problem is, but read the MrVanx downgrade guide and it is pretty safe. It is definitely best to downgrade back before sending it in, if you have a warranty replacement issue.
todd_jg said:
It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
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Well I was hoping that they would just send me a replacement and not ask many questions since "I can't see anything" on the screen. I have no idea how the warranty works on these things.
todd_jg said:
It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
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You wouldn't happen to have a "bad" file anywhere that I could download. I am daring enough to try this. I got the phone from wirefly (don't bash me please) and they are sending me a replacement. I don't know what kinda techs they have. They said all they check for when they receive the phone is all the contents in the box and nothing else but I don't trust that. Bricking it would be a good way to ensure they don't see the screen.
Phantisy said:
You wouldn't happen to have a "bad" file anywhere that I could download. I am daring enough to try this. I got the phone from wirefly (don't bash me please) and they are sending me a replacement. I don't know what kinda techs they have. They said all they check for when they receive the phone is all the contents in the box and nothing else but I don't trust that. Bricking it would be a good way to ensure they don't see the screen.
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Well, the easiest way is to make sure that HardSPL is not on there and then build your own file using Dutty's god NBH tool. Just create an NBH for a IPL.SPL flash and reverse the files. In other words, instead of putting the SPL.nb in where the IPL should be and vice versa. I assure you, they would not be able to boot the phone. I know this because I did this *on accident* one time and completely bricked the phone. Completely unrecoverable! To the point that the LED did not even come on to indicate that the phone was plugged in. It was well and truly dead. Again, I would not really advocate doing this type of thing, only pointing out that it will most certainly render your phone completely and irretrievably dead.
Alright. I am thinking hard about this because if they can see the screen is cracked (Can be done in the right light at the right angle) then they might send it back and I don't want to be stuck with the bricked phone. Would be cheaper to void the warranty and replace the screen on my own. Thanks for the info though.
I have to push my qwerty keyboard bottons REAL hard to make them working. This is a problem that came resently. Please, can someone give me a link to the spl downgrade guide? I can't find it. And to be honest, i do not understand how i should use the wiki correct yet.
Zuckron said:
I have to push my qwerty keyboard bottons REAL hard to make them working. This is a problem that came resently. Please, can someone give me a link to the spl downgrade guide? I can't find it. And to be honest, i do not understand how i should use the wiki correct yet.
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Follow this guide EXACTLY and you will be able to downgrade.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
but my original spl was 1.11 . . What should I do? Downgrade to 1.06 and then upgrade? And where do I find the files I need?
Zuckron said:
but my original spl was 1.11 . . What should I do? Downgrade to 1.06 and then upgrade? And where do I find the files I need?
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Your IPL was not 1.11 - i was prolly 1.01.
There are links to necessary files in the guide.
The original IPL and SPL on my AT&T 8525 was:
IPL-1.03
SPL-1.11
These were the original on 2 8525's I have had.
Do As I Did
I had a qtek 9100 with a smashed screen that i could not recur to the warranties because of the ROM plus other things, the only way was to change the screen was on my own, using the service manual (and it was easier than i thought) now i have a tytn but my old 9100 still works at 100% ps: GOOD LUCK

Problems w/HardSPL

I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.
Xyberz said:
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.
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Not easy to help you if you do not give more details... Are you running XP or Vista? Is it the first time you try to flash a rom (did it work already?)? Which version of Activesync are you using? Is your USB cable directly connected to a port of your PC or through a "long chain" of hubs?...
Nevermind, I finally got it. It doesn't state inside the instructions but here is some info to anyone new who has the same problem as I did.
Make sure to check your phone when the program will be searching your phone for info. You will need to give the program a "Yes" or "No" option on your phone. So watch out for that as it will save you a lot of heartache of the whole upgrading process.
Xyberz said:
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
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Post in the right section!
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First time installing what do ya think?

Like the title says this is my virgin flash. So what do you guys think should be my first ROM? I've looked at a bunch.
Looking for stability and style.
Just to get this correct I need to unlock my phone even though it's att and I'm using att. (Should I just unlock the CID or both)
Then I need to install HardSPL 7.1?
Then flash the ROM I choose.
Then load APPS as needed?
Thanks for the help!
Hardspl v7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
Then you should be good to go. Hardspl will help you in case you get a bad flash or bad rom, it's easier to recover. Supercid will allow to flash unsigned code (custom roms).
Looks like your on the right track, I'm just not sure where you got v7.1 for hardspl? That's why I included the links.
Also, "any rom you choose", but only from the Hermes forum. Flash a rom for another device means instant brick and you may not be able to recover it.
Hard SPL is a safety net only, there are NO guarantees you won't end up with a permanent brick, Hard SPL or no...
Most times you have to do something REALLY dumb to end up with a total brick but there is a miniscule chance, especially if you are playing around with the radio rom.
Happy flashing...
It was late last night and I couldn't remember if it was 7 or 7.1 lol. I'm charging the phone now. Gonna make sure it's nice and full then I'm gonna give it a shot. Thanks to you both for the help. I just needed to hear I was going about this the right way. I think I'll try one of Schaps ROM's first then try one of Josh's and see what I like about each. I've only got about 50 pages in on each so I'll read alittle more while the phone is charging. Thanks again!!
Oh wanted to ask also is there a Page or sticky just for Apps, skins, themes, and such or do I need to know what I'm looking for and search it?
Dang I thought my other phone had a microSD card in it.....turns out it's M2. Guess I'll stop on the way to work to pick one up. Non SDHC 2gb or less! Another question when it states now copy this to your phone....What file do I copy it to? (I'll head back to the Wiki and see if I can find that myself but figured I'd ask).
copy the RUU_signed.nbh and rename it hermimg.nbh the exe file is the flashing utility, and you don't need it if your flashing via the sd card.
make sure the card is formatted as fat32 (not fat).
Ok I did it the RUU way without the SD card. I'm now at 2.10.01 so I'm good. Now off to work and will hit the unlocker next. Thanks for the help!!
Ok unlock has been completed now I'm going to run Hardspl again. What about the radio I see that is has changed. Should I change that back to what it was at some point?
Ok I've done my first ROM flash wow! I grabbed Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31. I'll try it out and see if I like it. If not try another. Thanks again for helping me thru!
If you wish to risk changing the radio, do so but only if theres a problem. If the radio rom flash is interrupted, you will almost certainly have a brick on your hands.
Use the sd card method to flash so you then minimize the amount of problems you may have.
Remember though, if the radio rom is working fine, don't touch it....
Cheers...
boog321 said:
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
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Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
vp3G said:
Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
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Ah, cool! Thanks, vp3G! I guess I took all the info wrong. Reading the 2 threads it wasn't clear. I guess my method worked though! haha
Yea, it's all quite confusing... Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker. Olipro is a friggin' genius (as is pof).
So all I needed to do was Hardspl and I would have been good to go? I have another hermes I'm doing for myself. I do find I'm not getting very little service if not none at all in the house. I use to get 3 or 4 bars. Should I change the radio? Does the radio change with each ROM loaded?
You can try going back to the radio that you originally had, just do it the sd method to minimize the chance of something going wrong.
You could compare the difference between the 2 hermes.
vp3G said:
Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker).
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True, but if you wish to sim unlock then you still need Pof's unlocker.
I have to admit I'm getting there myself LOL. It really isn't that hard after you do it the first time. Some things I got stuck on (Pure newbness).
Some ROMs are compressed with .rar and .7.....I found you must download a unzipper/compressor to extract the files you need. I used Winrar some use 7zip. I'm getting there. There is soooo much info on this site. You find that you search for an answer and you get a page of answers with 3 different ways to do it LOL!
We have all been there at one point, too!
When I first brought my hermes home and it was still locked to the at&t network, I was so worried I was going to break it.
Lots of reading, and lots of tinkering later, and I am working on my own rom. Granted, I didn't port it, but I have done so much tweaking that I don't think anyone could tell where it came from.
Funny thing is, I still keep learning so much more. I think it's like my other hobby, ham radio, I don't think anyone can try everything! It seems to go on and on.
Ya know you gotta love the internet LOL. I've learned about so many things (mostly due to them breaking lol). Here's another question for you guys. For those who have Josh's 6.1 ROM. Where is the lock unlock button??? I see the lock device setup for password protection but I don't see a regular lock the screen so I don't make but calls button. LOL I'm gonna try to load his S2U2 thing when I figure out how to do it.
You can add device lock to the today screen under settings>today (at least it should be there), but if your using manilla I don't have a clue lol

Going to try anyway

Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.
But why flash to an older ROM?
We have great chefs cookin wm6.5 ported ROM´s!!
As long as you read and follow this guidelines you´ll be ok
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397583
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415225
Once you have the how, go to the proper section and choose a ROM!
There is no better ROM, that will depend on your personal needs, but believe me there are great ROM´s even better than the "official" ones...
Good luck,
Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.
hazzmatt69 said:
Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.
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I had issues syncing with my PC with WM 6.1. You can flash the original rom ( I used the original T-mobile rom) using the bootloader. With your phone off, hold the camera button and plug in ur USB then hit power button. the Tricolored bootloader screen should appear. You can flash your phone to the original rom from there. Once your phone is flashed, you might wanna think about flashing a WM 6.5 rom since the syncing problem is pretty much not an issue.
P.S. all of this can be found by reading through the threads.
hazzmatt69 said:
Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.
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is it not right here?
and to answer your question i believe that you would just need to flash an official dopod rom back onto it(using bootloader)...before proceeding with the reflash to the rom of your choice...the new 3vo rom is nice, by the way

In Desperate Need of Shipped ROM for HTC Touch Diamond

Hi I have recently tried to flash my Touch Diamond ROM, messed the hell out of it and, the only way to fix it is to flash it with the original stock ROM that it came with. Could anyone please help me with this.
HTC Touch Diamond P3700
Rom SPL 1.93
CID HTC_017
The phone was not branded straight from the manufacturer.
The problem is that I tried to flash the phone without doing hard SPL
Cleaned the whole phone and the only thing working now is the connection to the computer Trough mtty. I tried using other ROMS but they stop at 1% and gave me a vendor incorect error or something.
just download it from htc site
I tried but when I select the Serial number it says that the update is not for my phone and doesn't let me download it. and the ones that they have are only updates.
Does anyone have a valid Serial Number that i can use to download update ROM from HTC?
Have you tried any official roms posted around here? like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720
I did that but it started to load the roam into the phone and crashed at 1%,
it gave "Invalid Vendor Id" error and it turns off. Is there like a unversal HTC rom that at very least gets me access to the NANd Memory
I just want to HArd_spl the phone and install a new ROm
Dont even care about the original ROM any more
ekirakosyan said:
I did that but it started to load the roam into the phone and crashed at 1%,
it gave "Invalid Vendor Id" error and it turns off. Is there like a unversal HTC rom that at very least gets me access to the NANd Memory
I just want to HArd_spl the phone and install a new ROm
Dont even care about the original ROM any more
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Try that one HT828GN27034 and let me know the result.
Oh very nice, thank U very much, I'll try it right now.
All of the Upgrade ROMs just give me invalid Vender ID error message
Doesn't make sense to me though, i tried flashing the Phone With Hard-SPL but for some odd reason it hangs at 0%.
Is my phone dead for good or there might be a way to fix this issue
did u installed OLINEX first?
If ur phone is in 3 color screen try to install Olinex 1.4 and after that flash it with stock ROM.
No thats the thing, I Just Cleaned the phone with Mtty and tried to flash it with WM6.5. but after the cleaning nothing really work out. and i cant even go back to the the old Rom cose I did not back it up.
ekirakosyan said:
No thats the thing, I Just Cleaned the phone with Mtty and tried to flash it with WM6.5. but after the cleaning nothing really work out. and i cant even go back to the the old Rom cose I did not back it up.
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not even hard reset? did u tried?
yeah man i tried hard reset too, that was no go, I wish there was a way to remove the CID Lock
ekirakosyan said:
yeah man i tried hard reset too, that was no go, I wish there was a way to remove the CID Lock
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What windows are you using?
I am using windows 7, but i tried the same process on vista and XP, same result, the phone connects to the pc, and right as i try to load one of the ROMs from HTC's website, the thing crashes at 1% and says invalid vendor ID error.
IS there a universal ROM that can be loaded, or my phone is bricked for good?
Perhaps you want to have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
Succes!
Oh wow this place has every ROM type but mine, so not fare, u think if i download and try every one of these other ones I might have some sort of luck?
I used HTC's MTTY and figuered that My CID is HTC__017, and the 1.93 Spl
and mine is not listed there.
Hey, I have the EXACT same problem. My diamond is the US 3G Unbranded phone (DIAM110, CID=HTC__017). I've both called and emailed HTC asking for the ROM, but they say that they do not have it. The only way to get it would be to request it from the vendor you bought it from. I got mine as a gift so I can't really do that. Oh, and if you want them to flash it for you, you have to pay like $160. Not cheap. And you know HTC, they'll make up that your main board's fried, and ask you to pay $300. If you have WARRANTY, send ASAP. Mine expired a week ago.
As for flashing random ROMs, most likely this will not work (although you can try). The way your phone determines if it's allowed to install the ROM is by looking at the beginning of the file. If you open up the NBH with an editor, you can see and even change the ID. The problem is, HTC "signs" the file with a 2048 RSA key (2^2048), and if you even change one digit then the signature will be invalid.
So yes, I have the exact same problem, my thread is at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623320, so if you have any luck, or I do, check out that thread.
At this point, the only things that are left to do are to beg HTC or a vendor for the ROM update (I might find HTC developer's mailing address and ask them); find a way to get into Soft SPL, or in other words load into memory a bootloader that would allow flashing of unsigned code; or find a vulnerability that would allow flashing unsigned code (has been done with Trinity).
Also you can try contacting Olipro, cmonex, and pof, but I so far have had no luck.
Hopefully we'll find something.
~codeslicer
Hey man, thanks for the reply, we are pretty much on the same exact boat, am gonna try to contact HTC see if my warranty is still up, and the phone i got it as a gift, I don't have a recipt of a proof of purchase, what do u think i should tell them. And if that doesn't work, I think I am going to try every single 1.93 ROM
in this site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
And also what is your CID. if its HTC_017 then its not here, but there are a lot of them in here so u might get some luck.
let me know how it goes man.
I think i have the solution
can u please confirm clearly as what has happened , hope i have the specific solution .

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