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Froyo officially anounced!

http://www.youtube.com/GoogleDevelopers
going through demos as we speak.

Everyone you MUST WATCH that keynote! It's amazing! And sooooo funny

That android intent looks fantastic!

Key announcements :
Speed, a lot faster.
Wi-fi teffering
Cloud push message ( basically button on your browser to whatever is
on your web page, sends straight to your phone, works with navigation too)
Browser speed inhanced 2/3 times with java script
more to come

Improved voice search.
Improved translation.
Flash 10.1 support
App storage on sd card, plus can manually move to sd card, or
froyo puts it in which one you want. i.e. if finds your interage storage is slow will move it on sd card
auto update apps all together. via a update all button or a auto update button in settings.
improved search on apps and within apps
p.s. I love him ripping it out of apple/ ipad

Is sounding good, once out I think I'll unroot and just stick with this as all I rooted for was A2SD!

a list of changes - http://gizmodo.com/5543323/

Good they've included the official Twitter app - hope HTC stop using bloody Peep!!

Jammy sods ! All get a free htc evo i want!

Its meant to be out for N1 today!!
or is that not true as I read it on a site that reported the announcement.
if its out today then hopefully someone can start to work on the port to Desire!!

If it's out I'd imagine HTC are already working on it - as a prefered partner I assume they'd have it by now...

EddyOS said:
If it's out I'd imagine HTC are already working on it - as a prefered partner I assume they'd have it by now...
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well HTC are slow at updates so would like a ported N1 rom for now till 2.2 with sense is out.

If it's already loaded on the Evo 4g they al got for free :-(, doesn't that mean its already ported to htc sense UI??? Shouldn't it be able to work on our desires as well???

With very little, if no, work yes...I'd imagine!

damnit, flash 10.1 public beta is available, but will only download for android 2.2 devices
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html#android

Yer, never mentioned anything to do with announcements,
other then some of the ad stuff.

The music streaming from the Pc is cool

check out the videos of flash, the framerate is awful

It is still BETA ... it is not using hardware acceleration is not enabled.
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check out the videos of flash, the framerate is awful
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Anyone still watching ?
Google tv is looking good, when its actually working that is.
Plus, i so want that android teady!

[INFO] Flash support for Android 4.0 ICS will be out before end of 2011

** EDIT for new info **:
Flash for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich will be out before the end of 2011. There will be no Flash support for Android 5.0:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
The main reason why I switched to Android was it's Flash support. Finding out recently that ICS did not support Flash and that Adobe was discontinuing Flash development was very discouraging.
Google has confirmed that Flash is not yet operational in ICS, but Google is also confirming that Adobe will support Flash in ICS.
“Flash hasn’t been released for ICS yet. So as far as we know, Adobe will support Flash for ICS.” – Google
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http://www.slashgear.com/google-con...e-cream-sandwich-for-the-time-being-19196702/
Although discouraging and disappointing at first, there is now hope.

So Flash Player doesn't even show up in the Android Market on the Galaxy Nexus but I thought that one can install the apk on the phone. It seems that this doesn't work either, according to other users who've already got theirs. e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351167
Half the bloody web uses Flash. How are we supposed to view those sites?

To be honest I'm glad there is no support at the moment and wish that it wouldn't come. I haven't missed it since upgrading to the Nexus and if anything browsing is faster!

has anyone tried side loading it

Flash is going to die in mobile platforms, and we should be pressing video stream websites to use html5, instead of crying about flash's death. Damn memory/cpu hog.
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i dont know about you guys, but for me, more then half the web uses flash. The only reason im not getting iphone because of flash. The stream i always go to, uses flash. gonna wait a month, if they dont support flash on nexus, im getting sgs2

SGS2 will eventually get ICS and will have similar "problem"

uvarvu said:
To be honest I'm glad there is no support at the moment and wish that it wouldn't come. I haven't missed it since upgrading to the Nexus and if anything browsing is faster!
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It's no problem at all to set the flash settings to "on demand " so you have the fast browsing experience and flash if you need it.
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i her simple apps like tweecaster and facebook do not work! is this true? wtf is going on?. not having flash is a bummer. at least we should have the option. volume issues, no flash, simple apps not working.. this is getting really discouraging

Because they aren't updated for ics I would say. And because the Nexus is the only ics device at the moment they are probably to lazy to do so.
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Nebucatnetzer said:
Because they aren't updated for ics I would say. And because the Nexus is the only ics device at the moment they are probably to lazy to do so.
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yea the apps issue i expected..same happened with nex 1 and nex s.. but the no flash and volume issue are real bummers

Who gives a s$&@ about Flash? DOA.

bmstrong said:
Who gives a s$&@ about Flash? DOA.
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you keep running the Apple party line. the rest of us would prefer to have the option for when we need it.
Adobe Flash is currently #24 in the top (free) apps for Android. and the majority of the low reviews are from idiots using 50 dollar Cricket android phones.
don't like it? don't use it. no reason to come in here and spout nonsense.

Hopefully this will shut up the people who keep going on about no Flash support on the GN. It's a brand new hardware running a brand new software; of course there are going to be compatibility issues for early adopters.
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There are allways apps that don't work with newer OS versions. Happens with iOs, too.

kms108 said:
has anyone tried side loading it
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Several people have reported trying to sideload the latest flash apk for Honeycomb - it didn't work.

About the apps issue, how long is it before they usually get sorted out and ready for the latest OS (right now ICS). I know that the main reason I use my phone for is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Browsing.
I'm not guessing too long right?

Clancy_s said:
Several people have reported trying to sideload the latest flash apk for Honeycomb - it didn't work.
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has anyone tried it on ICS, honycomb is for tablets, whiles ICS is for both tablets and smartphones, hopefully it works.

Faz20 said:
About the apps issue, how long is it before they usually get sorted out and ready for the latest OS (right now ICS). I know that the main reason I use my phone for is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Browsing.
I'm not guessing too long right?
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If those 4 things are your main concerns it shouldn't be a problem. As far as I know Twitter works fine. Official Facebook app has always been pretty ass on the Android so if you can live with it before you can probably live with it now. YouTube is natively supported and apart from not having Flash the browser is blazing fast.
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BiGMERF said:
yea the apps issue i expected..same happened with nex 1 and nex s.. but the no flash and volume issue are real bummers
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Lack of flash is Adobe's fault, not Google's.

Bad Flash experience in any Browser

I am new GNex user, had been using stock 4.0.4 and now I am on latest AOKP. I have installed many browsers and tested the latest Flash plugin from Market. Tested with Opera, Stock browser and Dolphin HD. No matter what website,/brower when I get a page with a flash video, the video works fine, it plays nice. When I switch the video to full screen the problem is I can't seek in video. So if I'm watching a tv episode and have to do something else, when I come back I can't resume from the point I left it as I can't seek to the time I want. This is very annoying considering that on my previous Galaxy S1 flash worked fine in any browser. Any fix for this ? How is it working on your side ?

Flash is just very very poorly implemented on mobile platforms unfortunately. Its very hit or miss for me. Most of the time I come across Flash content, I just wait until I'm at a computer to watch...

Yeah I have the same problems too freeze or always seeking in full screen!
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A world without Flash is a better place—boycott any site that requires it.

flash is dead, long live the future.

This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.

flash has had it's day.... open standards are the way forward.
Adobe have realised the way forward is HTML5 and is concentrating it's efforts on that field moving forward.
A lot of sites that provide video already have HTML5 alternatives...
I work in web design and development and the general movement by clients is to make a responsive design that works across all platform, flash is normally excluded and replaced with open platforms such as HTML5, JS and CSS3

Most of the time I zoom in to the point where I can easily seek, then I go full screen.
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alinescoo said:
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
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It IS dead for mobile platforms. Fact.
Adobe said they will update flash to ICS and provide security updates, but no newer versions or improvements.

Well, I can't really say that Adobe did the update of flash to ICS... with very little tweaking they could have done it right... as it is now, I preffer to uninstall it and consider myself running a WP7 or iOS device in terms of browsing experience.
Thanks you all for confirming it wasn't an issue only on my phone.

Flash is dieing. HTML5 is the future.
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Adobe Drops Flash Support For Android

You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web

godutch said:
Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
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I don't understand when companies do stuff like this. I try to keep my company in as much as possible. I even endorse upcoming projects and products just for advertisement.
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..

Super-Veloce said:
pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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On linux there where a few alternatives but they just sucked....slow, buggy, missing many flash features etc...

When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.

ste1164 said:
When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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probably yes but I have seen flash break many times even after minor android point releases, so by 4.1.2 it could be even, reduced to iPhone level

Its not the worst thing ever. I never have had a need for flash on my iPhone (obviously) or my android devices.

It's very old news, there's no flash in Chrome for android. This is actually very good news imo. Web developers, myself included, spent years creating crazy hacks to make things work in ie6. About 4 years ago a small group realized that as long as that happened there was no incentive for ie6 users to upgrade. Slowly it became more common to display a warning to ie6 users only using...
<!--[if lte ie6]-->
This has resulted in a huge reduction in use of ie6.
Flash is as dead as ie6 but as long as browsers keep supporting it people will keep using it. Advancement in web development technology has always been hampered by the idea that we must keep supporting old technologies.
Adobe are leading the way in html5 authoring tools and feel the alternative already exists, I agree.
HTML5 is absolutely ready for primetime. The W3C's definition that it isn't has to be seen in context, it's not fully defined so officially it is not ready, real world usage is effective though as most elements are defined and it adequately replaces flash and xhtml. So far, all browsers with no flash support are pretty good with HTML5 so its simple enough to code fall backs both ways so some see flash and some see html5 depending on capability. I recently created a video gallery for a client that does this, as a result the video player falls forward (as it were) to HTML5 when the browser is capable, thus videos can be viewed on iDevices and Android.

VIIRU§ said:
You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Like has been said, old news, but still pretty damn awesome! *dances anti-flash dance*
Hope flash can now finally go and die.

somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.

shiningarmor said:
somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page

godutch said:
But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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Not true, as a programming language html5 is way more efficient than flash (or actionscript). But just because it is a good language doesn't mean you can't write bad code in it.
Also, I for one have not had any issues with the implementation at YouTube.

Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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shankly1985 said:
Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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That's cause youtube converted over to HTML5 but so many other sites didnt
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Any dev working on bringing back Adobe Flash compatibility to Kitkat?

Looking and searching for days on this topic. Could not find word on anybody working on it.
It is pretty heavy handed for Google to issue an update that reduces to functionality to their device. I use Adobe flash may be 5% of the time on my phone, but still, if I don't use it at all, I will just use an iPhone. No point in letting Google make money from my searches.

It's not Google job to keep Adobe Flash Player updated.

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It's not Google job to keep Adobe Flash Player updated.
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Adobe flash player doesn't have to be updated. Out dated versions work fine on Android 4.3. But compatibility is completely gone on Kitkat.

Yes, because Adobe is no longer updating it.

This is what Dolphin says on the developer's website (https://dolphinbrowser.desk.com/cus...id-4-4-how-do-i-enable-flash-player-?b_id=317) --
The Adobe Flash Player is no longer compatible with Android 4.4 Kitkat devices. Some critical APIs have been removed from Android 4.4 Kitkat that all browser cannot activate the flash player. We are working on to provide better video playing experience.

sparksd said:
This is what Dolphin says on the developer's website (https://dolphinbrowser.desk.com/cus...id-4-4-how-do-i-enable-flash-player-?b_id=317) --
The Adobe Flash Player is no longer compatible with Android 4.4 Kitkat devices. Some critical APIs have been removed from Android 4.4 Kitkat that all browser cannot activate the flash player. We are working on to provide better video playing experience.
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Right, but is anyone working on this at the rom level?

which APIs and why are they removed?

Galaid said:
which APIs and why are they removed?
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Website rendering is no longer done by AOSP(which renders flash). Now it's done by chromium (which doesn't render flash)

Lolento said:
Adobe flash player doesn't have to be updated. Out dated versions work fine on Android 4.3. But compatibility is completely gone on Kitkat.
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As someone else already said, it's not Google's job to keep Adobe's app updated.
You're basically relying on old technology that should have been gone for a long time already. If you think about it that way, ask yourself, why doesn't Windows rely on MS-DOS anymore (it was there in older versions, so why isn't it there now)?
And I don't see how switching to iPhone would help in any way, you can't sideload apps or have Flash at all actually. Do you really want to go from a 7" screen to a 4" one? And wouldn't you use Google on iOS too?

Bogdacutu said:
As someone else already said, it's not Google's job to keep Adobe's app updated.
You're basically relying on old technology that should have been gone for a long time already. If you think about it that way, ask yourself, why doesn't Windows rely on MS-DOS anymore (it was there in older versions, so why isn't it there now)?
And I don't see how switching to iPhone would help in any way, you can't sideload apps or have Flash at all actually. Do you really want to go from a 7" screen to a 4" one? And wouldn't you use Google on iOS too?
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Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.

Lolento said:
Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.
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Android gives you customization where as iPhone pretty much tells you how your layout is going to be. A lot more freedom on Android, that is the biggest difference for me. You're definitely on the wrong forums to start an iOS vs Android debate though.

Lolento said:
Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
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Last time I checked the 16-bit subsystem was no longer there in 64-bit Windows.
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Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash.
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I don't understand why you keep blaming Google and not Apple, who ceased development on Flash for mobile devices 2 YEARS AGO

Lolento said:
Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.
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So your willing to go pick up a new over priced device which gives you next to no freedom on it for customization, for a old, out dated, inefficient system of flash? Even though that device also has no flash support ? Glad we settled that.
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Joppykid said:
Android gives you customization where as iPhone pretty much tells you how your layout is going to be. A lot more freedom on Android, that is the biggest difference for me. You're definitely on the wrong forums to start an iOS vs Android debate though.
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This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.

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This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.
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Couldn't agree more... If only iOS have a 5" phone, I'd have jump ship.
The customization advantage is getting lesser by the day...

Lolento said:
This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.
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How is comparing pros and cons of two competing operating systems not a debate?
You asked "what makes android better than iOS, nothing IMO" I told you what I liked about Android over iOS. And you only mentioned iOS and Android in all of your posts, nothing about windows.
I understand that flash is a big deal for a lot of people. I am unaware of any devs working on it. Sounds like it may be tough with Google removing the framework needed for flash. I doubt many devs want to put time in to developing something that is starting to get phased out. Good luck in your quest to find flash.
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Joppykid said:
I understand that flash is a big deal for a lot of people. I am unaware of any devs working on it. Sounds like it may be tough with Google removing the framework needed for flash. I doubt many devs want to put time in to developing something that is starting to get phased out. Good luck in your quest to find flash.
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Not just starting to get phased out. As far as Google is concerned, you aren't supposed to keep using an app that hasn't been updated for 2 years (and if the only app using the framework was pretty much abandoned a long time ago why would they have to keep supporting it?)

Lolento said:
Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
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How does that compare? Want me to list the hundreds of programs that no longer work in modern Windows incarnations? How about most Creative sound cards? Is that MS' fault? I wouldn't say that, but you probably would.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
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So Adobe is moving away from Flash for mobile and you are saying it's Google's fault for not making sure every outdated app works on their newest OS version?
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
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"objectively" - "imo". 'Nuff said.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one.
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And that's your right, but don't spin it as anything other than your own biased opinion. Also, I'm pretty sure those sports websites never worked on iOS devices, ever.

I think its a good move by Google, the faster website developers will realize flash is outdated the better for everyone, less users using flash content because its incompatible will force them to switch to html5, sooner or later.
Homever Adobe should stop supporting desktop version too, it would fasten up the process alot.

Again, I was not inviting a debate in my OP. But if it needs to continue, it can.
Firstly, on Windows platform, in every modern iteration, there is a compatibility mode that maintains (to a certain extent) backwards compatibility. This is how MS does business, they dont go out of nowhere to drop support for a key piece of software. My windows 7 setup is backward compatible to software back to Windows 95.
Google, on the other hand, drops third party support for anything that they have a market share strangle hold on. Mark my word on this. It started with exchange sync support for gmail, then google voice, it will not stop there.
I think everyone hopes that web devs will realize flash player is dead. This is wishful thinking. Just like I wish voice call and sms should be dead.
Fact is, there are still millions of websites that are still dependent on flash player. They are still essential to people who uses these websites. I really dont care if Google supports or not, my OP asked if anyone else is working on it.
I switched from iPhone to Android years ago because Steve Job's Apple is a bully in their vision of technology. I see google as going down the same path.
Google doesn't really make anything that blow people's mind. They make things that are cheap and are good enough. I can easily and happily switch. In fact, I already made up my mind to test out the Dell Venue 8 Pro with Win 8.1 since the holiday deals look pretty good.
Lastly, I think someone misunderstood the diff between 'objective' vs 'subjective'.