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Froyo + iTunes

So. I remember back when froyo was first announced, they mentioned ota streaming from itunes but i havent yet seen that on any froyo build and i have really been hoping to. Does anyone know what happened or if its still a go? I cant be the only one who has way to much music to fit on their phone and would rather it stay all a comp leaving you gigs of extra space
If this has been mentioned before im sorry, i did search lol

I know it isn't much help, but there's two articles here about it ( pretty much the same info ).
Android 2.2 Froyo gets remote app installs & iTunes streaming
Android 2.2 (Froyo) gets OTA apps and iTunes streaming
They don't really go into specifics, but they do mention the one-click app installs that we haven't seen yet either. Hopefully once FroYo starts official rolling out, we'll see both these features ( although the AppBrain install is still great =] ).

i started a thread about this same feature a while back and was met with a pretty good response. turns out theres already a program on the market called "mspot" which u make a account down load the program on your computer and then the app on your phone. the service is free for the first 2.0 gb which should be enough for some decent music. you should look it up iv been using it for the past few weeks and its been amazing. its like having your itunes library on your phone!

i thought they pushed that feature to gingerbread?

Where is the home media/itues steaming feature?

I saw a bunch of news articles about it, but dont see any way to enable it in android 2.2

Wanna link us to these articles? And do some fact-checking to make sure you're not confused in regards to the teased features for Gingerbread that were shown at Google I/O?

drmacinyasha said:
Wanna link us to these articles? And do some fact-checking to make sure you're not confused in regards to the teased features for Gingerbread that were shown at Google I/O?
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http://www.slashgear.com/android-2-2-froyo-gets-remote-app-installs-itunes-streaming-2086419/
That was the first one I remember reading. Am I reading it wrong?

From what I understood, those demonstrations were of tech that's to be in Gingerbread, or just flat-out hasn't been released yet. Don't hold your breath waiting...

I still think it's crap how google got everyone so excited with all the cloud features for froyo(like OTA app sideloading) then didn't really deploy them...

They didnt mention gingerbread. And they demonstraited it on a n1 which doesnt have the hardware for gingerbread. Im pissed this feature hasnt been added.
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I think there is a lot of this in the framework for FroYo, but what they showed were more demo level, and they are going to let developers implement these things.
Kinda like the HDMI port on the EVO, the API is there, developers just need to use it.

Buy J. River Media Center and install their free Gizmo Android app. Music streaming and more to your phone.

to the OP or others that said they are pissed... you may be pissed now but i assure you after reading a few things, the future is looking bright!!!!! as f*ck!!!!
I blv google has come to the realization that it cannot fully compete with iphone smart(coughdumbcough)phones as well as microsoft smartphones for the simple fact their proprietary music software pwns all just about in respects to itunes and zune... however with google's purchase of simplifymedia and the already implemented cloud servers... its no doubt in my mind in short time we will rule. Hell Apple aint dumb, Itunes will see cloud computing too.
In the meantime... you all should look into either mspot (music only) or zumodrive (media video included). Its basically an alternative (IMHO) until google gets its service up and running. It syncs the music on your computer to the cloud and lets you access it from within your android app. Damn near instant with cloud computing
did i mention how much i love clouds?

orb
'nuff said

gmelchert said:
They didnt mention gingerbread. And they demonstraited it on a n1 which doesnt have the hardware for gingerbread. Im pissed this feature hasnt been added.
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What makes you think it doesn't have the hardware? 1Ghz CPU, 512MB of RAM are the only requirements for 3.0 that we've heard of, and the N1, EVO, DX, Incredible, and Desire all match those requirements.

I think screen size is also a requirement for gingerbread. At least 4" I believe.
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david279 said:
I think screen size is also a requirement for gingerbread. At least 4" I believe.
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3.5", not 4". N1 has 3.7".

I think most of those features are in Froyo, but there are still a lot of frameworks outside of the OS that need to be implemented. The Android Market is still being redesigned to work from the web. Froyo has the ability, as you can see with Chrome to Phone, but the web side of things isn't ready for the public yet. As for media, I think Froyo may have it, but Google is probably waiting for their music service to be ready (which is on its own timeline) before they launch the media features. Remember, they want to sell music through the Market in the near future, and the media features mostly have to do with that. It probably won't come until Gingerbread is released, but most likely 2.2+ can use these features when the "other half" is ready.
Patience is a virtue.

[Q] Has your market been updated?

Hi,
I know there is somewhere around here the update of the new market.
However I have not installed it or anything and now my Desire Z has it, which makes me wonder if anyone having a Desire Z has also got it?
Because I also have a Desire and Wildfire but neither of them has got the update.
Thanks
*****EDIT ****** My wildfire and my Desire Z have got it, maybe I havent got it on the Desire since I am on a custom ROM.
Anyhow thanks

Google did say they would be rolling it out over the next few weeks. I haven't got it yet either.
But there's an .apk you can install if you want, over on the Apps forum.

I got it last night. It updated silently, without any notification, which i don't realy like...
New Market app looking good, just needs to get used to it. I don't mind for sharing an .APK if you want.
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Market has always updated silently, it updates far more often than you know about, but most of the time it will just be bug fixes and not actual change so you will never notice.
The same method they use to update the market is how they can also remove banned apps you have installed (if installed via the market)

Lennyuk said:
The same method they use to update the market is how they can also remove banned apps you have installed (if installed via the market)
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After they've removed "Free Advanced Task Manager" from my phone i switched to CM ROM (without GApps) for ~2 months and just now starting to use all that Google spyware-kit again. That's the only thing i hate about Google. Automatic app updates via Market su**s too IMO. They keep getting updates even if i've un-ticked "Allow automatic updating" box.

AllWin said:
I got it last night. It updated silently, without any notification, which i don't realy like...
New Market app looking good, just needs to get used to it. I don't mind for sharing an .APK if you want.
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Thanks I have got it also, highly appreciate it anyhow

i updated my market app manually, but it seems this one is eating battery, there is a running program called alarmService Process: com.android.vending and its running... i didnt have this with my older market... is there any way to get the old version back?

It updated overnight sometime between tuedsay and wednesday. I liked the old one better, this one tries too hard to look like the app store

Don't think mine has updated, looks very much the same as before to me.
Andre

andrewilley said:
Don't think mine has updated, looks very much the same as before to me.
Andre
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You'll know when it gets updated. They've revamped the looks of the interface quite a bit.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-Market-Update-Android-1.6-Developers-android,news-9351.html

Last time I checked mine wasn't updated

I received the update, but not sure if I care for the new coverflow rip-off UI. Unnecessary eye candy. My battery life seems to be noticeably worse after the market update, anyone else seeing this?

My biggest question is does the new marketplace work properly with a non-gmail login for my Google account. I HATE gmail, and do NOT want a gmail address - yet Android Marketplace forced me to add one to my otherwise perfectly valid existing Google account.
Now the bloody gmail address has taken over (without asking me) my default Google and YouTube logins. Grrrr.....
And gmail, I have now found, has no technical support facility. At all. Period. Just a user forum, which seems pretty useless so far.
What a shambles of a way to operate a company that is providing the operating bedrock to phones selling for £500!
Andre

andrewilley said:
My biggest question is does the new marketplace work properly with a non-gmail login for my Google account. I HATE gmail, and do NOT want a gmail address - yet Android Marketplace forced me to add one to my otherwise perfectly valid existing Google account.
Now the bloody gmail address has taken over (without asking me) my default Google and YouTube logins. Grrrr.....
And gmail, I have now found, has no technical support facility. At all. Period. Just a user forum, which seems pretty useless so far.
What a shambles of a way to operate a company that is providing the operating bedrock to phones selling for £500!
Andre
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This is completely off topic. If you want to rant about Google, start a new thread.

Mine was just updated last night.

I noticed mine was updated about 6 hours ago. My G2 was at 9% battery life when I found out. I downloaded Tweetcaster (yeah, I took a dive and re-started my Twitter account), set up the widget and I still had 9% when I plugged it in, that was all of 10-15 minutes though so I can't comment on battery life.
I actually like the new market. So far, navigation is just as easy as it was before and looks much more refined and sleek than it did before. Personally (after consulting my iTouch's market with the new Android market), I saw a bigger resemblence to the iOS and Android markets BEFORE the update (back when both used block buttons). Since the update, there's a lot more curves and graphics in the Android Market than iOS (and I've looked at both...just now) and it just looks more appealing.
This is just IMO, but good job Google, I like it.

Went back to stock in hope of receiving market update. Nothing so far, am on the european desire z

I got the new Market this afternoon. Looks flashier but I find the carousel thing at the top of the screen doesn't work too well, and it's hard to flick it to the exact app that you want to look at without pressing on it. Maybe that's just me though ?

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I got the new Market this afternoon. Looks flashier but I find the carousel thing at the top of the screen doesn't work too well, and it's hard to flick it to the exact app that you want to look at without pressing on it. Maybe that's just me though ?
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It does take a minute to load, wherein it's laggy, but after a minute or two the carousel works just fine for me (short swipes usually just move it one over).

New Android market released - movies, books etc

Yes the news just went live on google mobile blog - here is their video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pbo-d62ivY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I still haven't got the update yet, did anyone else get it?
Edit: http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-android-market-for-phones-with.html?m=1 (source)
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The new version of Market will be rolling out over a fairly long window — it may take as long as a month to arrive on your handset, though it sounds like US users may see it sooner.
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Source: http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/12/an...-out-videos-books-and-more-discovery-options/

We've already begun a phased roll-out to phones running Android 2.2 or higher — the update should reach all users worldwide in the coming weeks.
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Source: android developers blog
nothing points to us-users being first in the official statement.

"The new Android Market will be rolling out in the coming weeks to Android 2.2 and higher phones around the world. You don’t need to do anything - the update is automatic on supported phones" - Google mobile blog
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So what if my phone came with 2.1, but I have never updated to Froyo, except by way of cooked ROM?
Does google still recognise that I am now running 2.3??

in zip-flash format:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15596465&postcount=9781

Noice! Works awesome!!
Thanks for that!

does anyone else think it looks a bit windows phone 7 ish, and also very much like the honeycomb version and also slow with the downloading/refreshing of thumbnails frequently?
or is it just me...

Lothaen said:
does anyone else think it looks a bit windows phone 7 ish, and also very much like the honeycomb version and also slow with the downloading/refreshing of thumbnails frequently?
or is it just me...
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To be fair, I'd say Swiping through screens has been there in Android for long, can't recall when exactly, but I think YouTube app was one of the first, the tiles do give out a hint of WP7, but again, I find the styling bit more close to Web version of the Market.
As for slow refresh, yes I do notice that too !! I'm sure will be fixed in future updates

the tiles on the front screen was the wp7 thing.
swiping left and right - didnt even cross my mind

Works on oxygen. But only then reallu fine, when pictures are loaded. But it looks nice.
Thanks for posting!!!
Sent from Oxygen

any one from the UK get Movies & Books... i dont (yet!)

Looks pretty good!

Yep looks really nice but with all this graphics downloaded each time, it really need a better handling of cashed images/icons. It's horribly slow until I allow it to load fully, and by then im about to throw the device out the window.

mortenmhp said:
Yep looks really nice but with all this graphics downloaded each time, it really need a better handling of cashed images/icons. It's horribly slow until I allow it to load fully, and by then im about to throw the device out the window.
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Yeah, google should also put an option to disable the preview page, the one with bigger images, for each category..It works good on wi-fi, but can't work on low 3g or edge..After 10 minutes i browsing the market, it downloaded about 16 MB of data..too much

Really want to install this but the amount of data it consumes seems kinda crazy.

I've been using the new Android Market for about a day now and I'm really enjoying it.The new layout is nice and gives the market a more premium feel. Some new great high quality apps would make it almost perfect.
Swyped using my HTC Desire

Let's start to email devs for their apps to comply with ICS phones!!!

Current Problems:
1. Menu bar at the bottom of the screen.
2. Not compatible when seen on google play (due to screen resolution, etc.)
3. Games able to installed properly but cannot download the required games data.
At least for paid apps, let's try to let them know to at least consider fixing it on their next release. We cannot complain much for free apps but still we can feedback to them.
I've already emailed some of them:
1. Dolphin HD - due to menu bar, and oh well I paid for their license last time
2. Asphalt 6 - not compatible when seen on google play, considering HTC One X is still considered a phone(and not tablet), screen resolution should not be their excuse here. If it 's working on my Sony Arc I'm expecting it should work on my other phone also.
3. NFS Shift - Able to install but cannot download data either on wifi or 3g
Will do some more emailing later.

Bump for good update on dolphin browser. Had only checked their blog awhile ago and their beta 8.0 is out since 6-April, menu bar is gone. Could be because of my feedback or someone else's, either way it's good for all of us dolphin users.
http://dolphin-browser.com/blog/
Will install it when I get home.
Sent from my Sony Arc w/ ICS
EDIT: had it installed just now and still got the menu bar at the bottom of screen
But at least they are looking into it. Below is their reply to me last time.
Hi, thank you for your information.
I have already directed your issue to relevant team members for review, and we will run a test about your issue. Once we figure it out, we will fix the issue as soon as possible. Please stay tuned.

Very good point.
I really do think ICS is the best Android version yet, has it's own real sense of identity and a crisper interface.
It's the step towards a common feel among different devices.
But the install base of Gingerbread remains the highest at 67% so us guys on here will probably be running Jelly Bean before they catch up.
Give it a few years and Google will probably get more aggressive about it.

There are even some google apps that need updating, like googles. Man they really should have kept the menu button, the four-button layout works perfect with the DHD.

Best is to mail the android team asking for a better backward compatibility solution for hard button devices. Or asking HTC to create a temporary solution. Ridiculous decision by the Android team. They try to enforce a new guideline by making the user experience horrible for non compatible apps. Never saw that on any platform.

I went to the Tapatalk forums to ask for the ICS menu already let's hope more dev's comply with ICS.
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So I've emailed some more devs stating the current issue of menu bar on our HTC One X.
1. Kobo reader
2. Mixzing music player
3. FPSE ps-one emulator
4. Air attack HD
5. Fruit Ninja
6. XDA app
7. Yahoo Messenger and Mail app
8. Skype
So far they immediately replied stating that a representative will follow-up on the issue.
Hopefully they can provide a fix on their next update.

I also sent a mail to whatsapp. Awaiting response
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I will try to help too - I know it doesn't really belong here but I sincerely don't understand Google why they removed the menu button and added the useless multitask button (long-press home was fine?!). I thought it was pretty nice to have true full screen apps all the time and hide the menu completely. Ah well, Googles logic is beyond me and I will have to see the updated apps first...

The legacy menu button also make touch control on non ics games annoying to use as it messes up the calibration, probably due to the resizing of the screen.
A better solution would be to make the menu button hidable, and rather than wait for every dev to update their app for ics which is not feasible.
Hopefully HTC manages to solve this problem and comes up with a good update.