Develop Bugs

SMS and MMS

Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile

You need to speak to tmobile.

The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?

fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.

if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.

I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.

O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!

Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!

is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?

This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.

ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast

using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms

I would not like to "Text" Work numbers

Is it just me, or is there anyway to remove the option to Send a Message to any numbers not designated as "Mobile"?
In my address book, numbers designated as Home or Work still give me the option to Text them.
Its frustrating to accidentally send a Text to my Wife's work number, because I selected the wrong option in People, when it shouldnt even show as an option unless its a Mobile.
Any one able to help on this?

massivebasset said:
Is it just me, or is there anyway to remove the option to Send a Message to any numbers not designated as "Mobile"?
In my address book, numbers designated as Home or Work still give me the option to Text them.
Its frustrating to accidentally send a Text to my Wife's work number, because I selected the wrong option in People, when it shouldnt even show as an option unless its a Mobile.
Any one able to help on this?
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I'm not trying to sound mean or anything but maybe just don't text the wrong number...?? Generally you should probably know your wife's cell phone number vs. her work number.

rutter9 said:
I'm not trying to sound mean or anything but maybe just don't text the wrong number...?? Generally you should probably know your wife's cell phone number vs. her work number.
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Yes, I do, and you are right, user error is the most at fault here.
I know my wife's cell number, but I hardly know anyone elses. Thats why I keep a detailed Google address book, so that I dont have to.
However I still think its silly that it allows you to designate numbers as mobile or not, but then automatically gives you an option to text non-mobile numbers. Is it not?
And if it is silly, its something Id like to correct if I could, hence asking the community if anyone else has seen this, and knows of any way to address it besides always pushing the decision on the user.

That's a good point. I thought that was annoying as well. I do most of my messaging straight from the messaging app but it still shows all numbers. It's a bit annoying.
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Sorry I don't have an answer, just want to say I'm with u on this. I think its reasonable to expect such a genius phone to know it can't send a text to a land line.
Although, as I type this I'm realizing that more companies are using cell phone for their primary lines and employees. Who knows, maybe we will be able to send texts to land lines someday soon. If a regular phone has an lcd for cid display why couldn't it display a text message... things that make you go "hmmm"

I asked a similar question before in a different thread... but does anyone know if the People app source is ever released when they release the source for the EVO ROM?
I imagine the hardest part about excluding the option to message other numbers would be finding the right spot to implement an if statement. Then would it be possible to compile the APK and install that custom version on my phone? While I would be in there I'd probably address the First name sorting problem

I'm 100% with you on this. I know it's part of user control but it shouldn't have to be.
There should be a checkable option in the Messages/SMS app: "Include Non-Mobile Numbers" and it should be off by default.
I also wish you could exclude certain contacts in the Messages/SMS app. There are people at work I would never text but I have their number in case they call me (I often am the "go-to IT guy") so I know who it is.
Ah well, we can hope!

I'm so with everyone on this..It annoys the hell out of me.
but you know what? I found out that apparently Sprint has some kind of service that will txt to landlines.
txt your home phone and you'll see..maybe there is a way to turn that off i dont know. didnt check much further into it

MrDSL said:
I'm so with everyone on this..It annoys the hell out of me.
but you know what? I found out that apparently Sprint has some kind of service that will txt to landlines.
txt your home phone and you'll see..maybe there is a way to turn that off i dont know. didnt check much further into it
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Yes, I've done it by accident many times. Those who I've texted (landline instead of wireless), said they answered the call and was given the option of having my text "read" to them. In fact, I just did it yesterday to my brother, thought I was texting his cell and instead sent it to his home. His wife answered and some "computer lady" read her my text...

massivebasset said:
Is it just me, or is there anyway to remove the option to Send a Message to any numbers not designated as "Mobile"?
In my address book, numbers designated as Home or Work still give me the option to Text them.
Its frustrating to accidentally send a Text to my Wife's work number, because I selected the wrong option in People, when it shouldnt even show as an option unless its a Mobile.
I know this version of the G1's Contact.apk has this option (it was my request of the dev lol)
It works on my EVO (2.1 rooted) but MAN it's ugly after using People for the last few days.
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I hate to say it but some people's mobile number is their home number. Lots of peep no longer have land lines at all. If you put a filter on what the sms app shows you would likely have as many people unhappy about that as you do this. If your going to error, do it on the side of making things possible as opposed to restricting things is likely the logic in play here.
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I thought the messaging app did have that option then I realized I use handsent and it does have a mobile only option in its send settings.
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i guess it depends on how many contacts you have but you could create a group that only contained mobile numbers. Although if you have a significant amount of contacts this would probably be a pain

I created separate "land" contacts for those I text and that have land lines. Lousy but works.

massivebasset said:
Is it just me, or is there anyway to remove the option to Send a Message to any numbers not designated as "Mobile"?
In my address book, numbers designated as Home or Work still give me the option to Text them.
Its frustrating to accidentally send a Text to my Wife's work number, because I selected the wrong option in People, when it shouldnt even show as an option unless its a Mobile.
Any one able to help on this?
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Download handcent sms from the market and under settings, then send message settings, check,"show mobile num only" should work for you. Sorry if this was already posted, I didn't read the full thread
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Timestamp on SMS

I just purchased my HTC Desire yesterday (and it is LOVELY)!
But for some reason the datestamp for INCOMING sms texts are all wrong. it is like 4 hours behind, but the outgoing timestamp is correct.
is there a way to check the settings? I don't know why it's like that. I dont know what time people texted me.
Thanks for all the help

Ensure to set date and time correctly, from Menu options
That defines your phone internal clock, regardless what you want to see in the clock widget..
To simplify thing, better to opt for "current" in the location options
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what do you mean? I set the date and time correctly. And when I go into location it only shows
use wireless networks and use gps satellites
(i dont have a data plan)

the desire dosent timestamp a sms when it receves it, instead it uses the one given by the sms message centre that sends it to you .....

so you mean my provider? because the received sms time is correct on my previous phones..

What he means is, it'll use the time from the phone that sent it to you I believe.
I SMS internationally; and it's quite annoying because it will move their message up in between mine and thread mine. He's in Canada, I'm Australia so he's behind so I have to go searching up through my messages to find it.
eg:
his reply goes here:
me 3pm: message

applecaprice said:
so you mean my provider? because the received sms time is correct on my previous phones..
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No what i mean is, when someone sends you a sms, it goes from there phone to a sms message centre, and then gets sent to your phone, the desire uses the timestamp given to the sms at the message centre so there nothing wrong with your phone, it even happens to me for some reason, if i reply to a sms straight away it appears above the one i just receved

happens to me as well. i just use "sms time fix" from the market, and ive enabled all the options in there cause it wasnt working on just by setting the hours in advanced. now my msg times are good, but it now uses my phones time. atleast it shows the proper time now.

thats weird.. i know what you mean sorta, but i get texts locally. so shouldnt it be the same time? and yea, it moves above mine as well! it's four hours behind (even though it was sent after me)
is there a way to change the sms message center time or anything like that (i doubt that lol) because my friends who text me are local too

Question for Google Voice users

Hi everyone,
I'm using a GSM version of our GN. I only use Google Voice as I change carriers very often therefor I never want to give the carrier phone number.
When receiving a call on ICS we have 3 options:
- pick up
- Decline
- or send a quick preset text message.
Is there a way to make the phone send the text message out of GV and not the carrier Caller ID?
I'd pay for an app to do just that.
Thanks

turn off texting on the phone altogether and it forces GV to send any texts...but you lose MMS capability...
when you choose to send text, does it ask you if you want to send it through GV or regular? probably not if the call comes in on your regular number...try having someone call your GV number and send them a text to see which number shows up...
if that works, just use the GV number for everything

Yeah the text reply is useless because it uses the built in texting and not the GV app. That was the case when I tried it a year or two ago it might have changed now but I doubt it.
Also GV has MMS now (receiving).

aldo37 said:
Yeah the text reply is useless because it uses the built in texting and not the GV app. That was the case when I tried it a year or two ago it might have changed now but I doubt it.
Also GV has MMS now (receiving).
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I've heard rumors some people can get MMS. (through some kind of forward to gmail setup) but it's never worked for me.

aldo37 said:
Also GV has MMS now (receiving).
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Not quite... you can receive MMS from a Sprint sender. That's it. Your provider doesn't matter, nothing else matters. Only Sprint senders.
None of my friends have Sprint (or anyone I know really) so for all intents and purposes GV still doesn't have MMS (at least for me).

On a similar note...does anyone else feel google treats Google Voice as a red headed stepchild?
I have been using a year and a half old version of the app because it's the only one that treats the back button as an actual return to main screen button...instead of some funky cycle through every previous text button. It is also the last version to handle notifications correctly (newer versions keep the notification in task bar if you reply to one online)

I've tried setting my phone to use GV as the default way to send texts, but still see he same bad behavior with Verizon texts being sent from quick messages. Sucks!
Probably will need an updated dialer from google, but if anyone has any other ideas I'll try them...

Royal2000H said:
Not quite... you can receive MMS from a Sprint sender. That's it. Your provider doesn't matter, nothing else matters. Only Sprint senders.
None of my friends have Sprint (or anyone I know really) so for all intents and purposes GV still doesn't have MMS (at least for me).
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I don't think so. I receive MMS from people all the time in my inbox (Sprint and non-Sprint). You have to make sure email notification when you get a text is on I think.

[Q] Stop texts from breaking up

Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.

mykull said:
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.

I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..

Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Spark91 said:
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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Cbass15 said:
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.

Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?

Cbass15 said:
I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.

Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.

adrianr514 said:
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.

Have you tried the setting?

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Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.

I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem

How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.

My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.

This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth

KLPFL said:
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.

Not on the iPhone just the note 4

Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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