SMS and MMS - Desire General

Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile

You need to speak to tmobile.

The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?

fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.

if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.

I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.

O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!

Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!

is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?

This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.

ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast

using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms

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Unaccounted SMS and Picture messaging.

Something very odd.
Ive signed up to my-tmobile looking over my unbilled usage i can see SMS messages and Picture messages i have not sent. To non UK standard mobile numbers.
Usually starting with 100 or 10.
Is this a software bug? or have i some how infected myself with an android scam app or something?
i will be phoning up tmobile again later but wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.
Nutsy
If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.
Well i deffinently didnt sent any picture messages. And it shows the Text messages i did sent as the correct numbers.
So this is making me a little worryed. I have what i thought where safe programs from the app market. Is there anyway of scanning an android phone of melicous software?
If u have handcent sms on your handset make sure auto convert to mms has been unchecked.otherwise it will convert all your long sms text messages to mms.
Nope just using the htc software. i might give tmobile a call again in a bit see what the hells going on. This isnt something i want to keep having to check up every other day for the next 2 years.
So is back to the other question. in case i have some how got a dodgy program running and doing all this is there anyway to scan my phone?
Really was hoping some one else might know whats going on.
no idea i am afraid, but just to make sure it's not some scam app, uninstall everything...
you;ve not been using any of the options in the STK have you? i think it appears in the menu as interactive? cos those are all done by text messages
EroThraX said:
If I remember correctly they don't actually show the numbers you have contacted, those numbers starting with 100 or 10 are just an alias T-mobile gives to numbers you contact.
Might just be your normal sms and mms then, if you haven't sent any at all then talk to T-mobile.
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i have just checked that, and all numbers ive been texting appear normally

Disable text messaging completely

I have done a search and not found if there is a way to completely disable text messaging and/or SMS/MMS on my new tilt 2.
I have an unlimited data plan and still need to connect for that but I dont/wont use the messaging crap.
is this even possible??
skooter2 said:
I have done a search and not found if there is a way to completely disable text messaging and/or SMS/MMS on my new tilt 2.
I have an unlimited data plan and still need to connect for that but I dont/wont use the messaging crap.
is this even possible??
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I am on T-Mobile, so I'm not familiar with what AT&T can do, but on our network you can log in to your account at the website and disable text messaging. It won't be gone from the phone, but you won't get any text messages. I'm not sure if this turn of OUTBOUND texting.
Ill take a look in the registry for you, i think the most you'll be able to do is disable the messaging driver, but im not sure what that will do. ill be back in a bit
If you dont/wont use it... why even bother with disabling it? I dont think we're charged if we recieve a text only for sending. I could be wrong here though.
Are you worried about accidently opening a contact and typing out a message and sending it to them?
Aaron McCarthy said:
If you dont/wont use it... why even bother with disabling it? I dont think we're charged if we recieve a text only for sending. I could be wrong here though.
Are you worried about accidently opening a contact and typing out a message and sending it to them?
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Nope but the phone tried to send an sms to some unknown/wrong number that called me!
And to Arron MC...........if you check at att site it says we get charged for BOTH incoming AND outgoing texts!!

[Q] Messaging app doesn't display more than 500 messages in the single conversation

I received from one person more than 500 text messages but only the number "500" is shown. I'm still getting more messages. But the number doesn't grow.
Messages are there. Just the total number of messages is not shown.
Is that a limitation of Messaging App?
in your messaging settings, you can adjust the max number of text messages
If I got anywhere near 500 message from someone I would block them.
bullka said:
I received from one person more than 500 text messages but only the number "500" is shown. I'm still getting more messages. But the number doesn't grow.
Messages are there. Just the total number of messages is not shown.
Is that a limitation of Messaging App?
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why don't u TRY to look in ur messaging app settings? maybe old messages are being deleted??
Thanks.
I didn't know that this can be configured in Settings.
Thanks
patruns said:
If I got anywhere near 500 message from someone I would block them.
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sounds like you are a forever alone
This explains why my GoSMS backup/restore (when I switched phones) doesn't show all the messages I have with my gf.
I made the change in settings, but does anyone know what will happen if I restore the old messages again?
Will all the new ones I've gotten disappear?
danielvago said:
This explains why my GoSMS backup/restore (when I switched phones) doesn't show all the messages I have with my gf.
I made the change in settings, but does anyone know what will happen if I restore the old messages again?
Will all the new ones I've gotten disappear?
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No, they are added on. I've done this countless times before, mostly because I flash too many roms.
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[Q] Stop texts from breaking up

Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
mykull said:
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Spark91 said:
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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Cbass15 said:
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
Cbass15 said:
I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
adrianr514 said:
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.
Have you tried the setting?
KLPFL said:
Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.
I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem
How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.
My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
KLPFL said:
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.
Not on the iPhone just the note 4
Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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[Q] Sprint LG G4 Spliting SMS

Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
I think it's a Sprint issue. I've been with them for a long time and always remember this happening. However, if there is a fix, I'd love to know it also.
Newkidintown said:
Before I switched to sprint I had used T-Mobile LG G3. The default messaging app split long text messages into two or three, and I received long messages in similar chunks. But I used the Textra messaging app and it ceased to do that. Long messages sent as one as well as receiving 500+ character text.
Now, being with sprint the problems have re-appeared and I an unable to fix it. Textra does not change the sms limits so I send multiple text to friends and likewise with receiving. This is not a huge issue just a major inconvenience and a nuisance.
Are there setting I'm messing, apps that will help, anything i can do to keep long message as one? Please and thank you for your help.
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Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skezza.main&hl=en.
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
metayoshi said:
Sprint has the 160 character limit for SMS texting. If you want to text longer messages as a single message, you either need to use an instant messaging app like Google Hangouts (though those require the recipient to also have the messaging app), or find a texting app that can convert long messages to MMS if it goes past the 160 character limit. These solutions will convert the SMS to MMS or other forms of data, though, so just be aware of that if you have some sort of data limit.
If the converting SMS to data is not a viable solution, a quick google search revealed this app: BigSMS,
It supposedly can make long texts, but I have never used it myself, so I can't comment on if it works or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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As I said before, I used Textra in the past and my messages were sent as one and I received long messages as one. I recently downloaded EvolveSms which fixed the issue of my messages being split by converting them into MMS (which i have no problem with at all) but I still got 4 separate chunks of their message. I know there's an option to reassemble split messages but it seems to not be working. I'll go to a sprint store to see if there's an issue there or not.
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Ok, Good luck with with the Sprint customer rep. The split SMS thing never bothered me since I've been on Sprint for a very long time. However, I did a quick google search, and it does seem like some devices have native support for recombining received SMS messages, like the Sprint Galaxy S 5, so it does look like it can work. Hopefully they can do it on the G4 as well.

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