Develop Bugs

SMS and MMS

Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile

You need to speak to tmobile.

The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?

fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.

if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.

I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.

O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!

Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!

is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?

This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.

ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast

using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms

[Q] SMS to MMS Fix

Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.

Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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uhm.
why would a long sms convert to a mms?
I've never seen this happen.

Have no idea why this happens. if i use "MyPhoneExplorer" to compose sms on pc and send them, this problem doesn't occur. tonight, i decided to send a long sms directly from my phone and i saw that it converts to mms. so decided to google it and it appears Xplay isn't the only phone with this problem. a quick browse on google shows that loads of device owners are frustrated by this. check it out on your stock device as mine is stock also. just bootloader unlocked and rooted ;-)

Yea, mine does the same, bootloader locked, and does it un-rooted and rooted.
Very annoying. You'd think sony ericsson would have made this an option.
But i did have this issue with 2.1 on my motorola milestone.

mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)

AriStar said:
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
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Its after lyk 4 or 5 sms's it turns it into a mms, i can confirm every android phone i have had (hero, desire, desire hd and xplay) have all done this, i resorted to sending half an sms then writing the other half n sending that lol
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I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?

Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.

Laird_Attwood said:
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?

dsswoosh said:
I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...

Have you tried writing the whole message, copy/cutting half of it, sending half then quickly pasting and sending the rest? Or email/call the person lol? It might just be me but my texts are pretty small.
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Waqas said:
Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
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"Taking you shopping, get some new shoes. I love you."
Seems to fit all into 1 text to me.

This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Waqas said:
This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.

dsswoosh said:
We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
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SIM free device on 2.3.3

dsswoosh said:
Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.

Laird_Attwood said:
It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.

Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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Your welcome for the camera XD It can now be found if you click the little android market logo at the top of the xperia play game menu when you slide the keypad out.
Back on-topic, I just successfully send a 6 sms long message, on 2.3.2 and with Three

dsswoosh said:
Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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Ok just to make a few things clear. I noticed this problem on my Xplay which has a stock rom 2.3.2 and i got it sim-free. i have tried it with several different vendors, like vodafone UK, 3, O2 and international vendors in Pakistan as well. Also, i've tried composing a message with no sim in it and still have the same problem. So its a problem with the OS and not network related. Saw the same problem on a stock Galaxy S Sim-free.
So Devs, please find a solution to this if possible.

dsswoosh said:
Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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how can it be network providers?
I got my handset SIM free (generic UK rom) and have used a few networks. it does it on all of them. and reports of it being the same on other Android devices.
It is nothing to do with networks, it Android OS.

Way to tell if an SMS was sent to multiple people?

Over the New Years weekend I got a text from a friend saying something like "Hope everyone has a safe New Years!". From the message it was obvious that it was sent to more than one person. I just happened to be with another friend who also received the same text. He has a Droid 3 and in his Messaging app the Send button changes to Send to All or something of that nature. Is there a way to easily tell if a message has been sent to multiple recipients without looking at the message info? I feel like this would be a huge help considering that replying to those sends a text to everyone who got the initial message. Hope that was clear.

Long press the message and put view details
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wayneb02 said:
Long press the message and put view details
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Right I get that. But sometimes a message can seem like it only was sent to you, but then after you reply you find out that it indeed was not. I was hoping for an obvious way to tell, like on the Droid 3 messaging app changing the send button to say send to all.

jknigga said:
Right I get that. But sometimes a message can seem like it only was sent to you, but then after you reply you find out that it indeed was not. I was hoping for an obvious way to tell, like on the Droid 3 messaging app changing the send button to say send to all.
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Unless I'm mistaken, that Send to All is a Motoblur specific feature. I don't think by default that SMS messages sent to multiple recipients automatically reply to all recipients. MMS messages might, but not SMS.
I may have to test it later. I'm fairly certain the replies go only to the sender, though.

copkay said:
Unless I'm mistaken, that Send to All is a Motoblur specific feature. I don't think by default that SMS messages sent to multiple recipients automatically reply to all recipients. MMS messages might, but not SMS.
I may have to test it later. I'm fairly certain the replies go only to the sender, though.
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I figured that was specific to Motoblur. I like that feature though. Makes it really simple knowing if you received a mass text. I was hoping to find an app or ROM that has this feature as well.

[Q] Question about the messaging app

Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?

LuckRocks said:
Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?
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I was noticing this if I did not go into the text and just read it from the preview. Just go to the text and it should remove the +1. I also use SMS popup and that fixes the issue with the reading of texts.

I use handcent and just disable the stock messaging app.
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I've been noticing that mine has been being screwy here lately. So I've just switched to gosms so
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?

dudejb said:
Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gogii.textplus
This is what my sister uses.
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I also disabled the stock app, and chose GoSMS.

dudejb said:
Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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google voice

bobbinthreadbare said:
google voice
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Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.

Seriously, textplus
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dudejb said:
Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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That could just as easily be you're-not-using-it-right. A quick way to test: put your phone in airplane mode, then re-enable Wi-Fi (with airplane mode still on) and connect to a working AP. If you're set up correctly you'll still be able to send messages through the GV app. (And it won't sit on "Sending...", it'll actually deliver the message.) And you shouldn't be charged for it.

dudejb said:
Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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that sucks. i recently noticed i can text my friend in canada now. when i started using gv on my wifi only devices, none of my texts would go through to her. that was about 2 years ago. i dont know when they started allowing it but about a month ago we tried again and it works. im in the us. try the suggested wifi/ap mode thing. thats my usual setup anyways.

MMS issues

My wife and I have been having issues with group texting since we got these phones. What usually happens is she'll receive a MMS and it won't download. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and she from an HTC One M8, but for some reason it's much worse on her phone than it is on mine. We activated the SIM card that came with the phone. We've tried all the obvious things: resetting APNs, clearing data on the messaging app, using a different app, trying with VoLTE on and off (which I heard worked with the Z3). There's been an open ticket with T-Mobile for two weeks which hasn't really gone anywhere. It seems to happen no matter who the group text originates from. We have both iPhones and Androids in the chat.
More details here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=538029
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Same issue. Looks like the most common factors here are G4 and iPhones.

No problems here with MMS:

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No problems here with MMS:
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The issue is only with group texting.

TWN H815 here. Group texting is not supported on the stock messaging app, so I'm using Google Messenger. It has happened to me a couple of times, after upgrading to v10b. The only way I got the messages to download was to turn off WiFi.

I'm glad you decided to REACH out and ask. At least you don't feel like an OUTSIDER. Maybe its an ANOMALY. I'm not sure but when you figure it out i hope you just tell those who don't want you to fix it, "I'm a just do it!"
If you don't understand what I'm talking about let me know. I'll have my boy Andy Mineo give you a call. He's the kind of guy that always says "you can't stop me!"
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I'm glad you decided to REACH out and ask. At least you don't feel like an OUTSIDER. Maybe its an ANOMALY. I'm not sure but when you figure it out i hope you just tell those who don't want you to fix it, "I'm a just do it!"
If you don't understand what I'm talking about let me know. I'll have my boy Andy Mineo give you a call. He's the kind of guy that always says "you can't stop me!"
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LOL! That was so perfect! I'm reading and I'm like, wait a minute.... Lol
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Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.

bryanUC said:
Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.
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Nope, never got anywhere. Tmobile replaced my phone and my wife's phone and they do the same thing. Super annoying.... May end up switching phones cuz the quirks are adding up.
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bryanUC said:
Did you get anywhere with this? I've tried stock messenger, hangouts, and now textra. At least in hangouts/stock I'd get the message to download; in textra the message just doesn't come through. It seems to originate from:
1) Group MMS
2) First message in a new group
3) Message was sent from an iPhone
4) Pictures especially, but text seems to do it as well
If these conditions occur, I never get the message. Frustrated that it happens but not sure what to do. H811 on TMobile.
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And we never get the message to download. If it prompts us to download the message it never comes in.
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Does it only fail while the phone is on WiFi? If so change the option in the texting app to switch on data for mms. Textra and Handcent have this I believe.

I have the same issue, some mms, both picture and group text will either not download or just never show up.

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Does it only fail while the phone is on WiFi? If so change the option in the texting app to switch on data for mms. Textra and Handcent have this I believe.
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Doesn't matter if you're on wifi or not, the problem is still there.
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Related I guess, but group messaging doesn't appear to work properly on the stock messaging app

Nope group messaging on my tm g4 is so bad. I've tried almost everything and it still won't download pics

I have this issue occasionally with Hangouts. I will get an mms that did not download from a contact (that should be part of an on-going group message) but it will not download. WiFi or LTE does not seem to matter. When on WiFi, the LTE symbol pops up in the notification bar for a second or so. For me, this only occurs to one out of 30-40 group messages. A minor annoyance, but annoying all the same.
I have not had this problem on any other device when using Hangouts. I had an immediate distaste for the stock message app, so i cannot corroborate that the issue occurs there.

funkbuqet said:
I have this issue occasionally with Hangouts. I will get an mms that did not download from a contact (that should be part of an on-going group message) but it will not download. WiFi or LTE does not seem to matter. When on WiFi, the LTE symbol pops up in the notification bar for a second or so. For me, this only occurs to one out of 30-40 group messages. A minor annoyance, but annoying all the same.
I have not had this problem on any other device when using Hangouts. I had an immediate distaste for the stock message app, so i cannot corroborate that the issue occurs there.
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It's happening regardless of SMS client. I've tried stock, Hangouts, Textra, etc and the issue persists across all of them. Mine happens much more frequently too unfortunately, same for my girlfriend.

This is getting insane

I gave up and switched phones unfortunately. Was part of a long thread and me and my wife got every last message. Amazing seeing it work correctly!

jaggrey said:
I gave up and switched phones unfortunately. Was part of a long thread and me and my wife got every last message. Amazing seeing it work correctly!
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Did Tmo take the phones back, or did you sell them privately?