Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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uhm.
why would a long sms convert to a mms?
I've never seen this happen.
Have no idea why this happens. if i use "MyPhoneExplorer" to compose sms on pc and send them, this problem doesn't occur. tonight, i decided to send a long sms directly from my phone and i saw that it converts to mms. so decided to google it and it appears Xplay isn't the only phone with this problem. a quick browse on google shows that loads of device owners are frustrated by this. check it out on your stock device as mine is stock also. just bootloader unlocked and rooted ;-)
Yea, mine does the same, bootloader locked, and does it un-rooted and rooted.
Very annoying. You'd think sony ericsson would have made this an option.
But i did have this issue with 2.1 on my motorola milestone.
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
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mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
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Its after lyk 4 or 5 sms's it turns it into a mms, i can confirm every android phone i have had (hero, desire, desire hd and xplay) have all done this, i resorted to sending half an sms then writing the other half n sending that lol
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I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
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Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
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I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
Have you tried writing the whole message, copy/cutting half of it, sending half then quickly pasting and sending the rest? Or email/call the person lol? It might just be me but my texts are pretty small.
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
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"Taking you shopping, get some new shoes. I love you."
Seems to fit all into 1 text to me.
This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
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SIM free device on 2.3.3
dsswoosh said:
Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
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It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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Your welcome for the camera XD It can now be found if you click the little android market logo at the top of the xperia play game menu when you slide the keypad out.
Back on-topic, I just successfully send a 6 sms long message, on 2.3.2 and with Three
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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Ok just to make a few things clear. I noticed this problem on my Xplay which has a stock rom 2.3.2 and i got it sim-free. i have tried it with several different vendors, like vodafone UK, 3, O2 and international vendors in Pakistan as well. Also, i've tried composing a message with no sim in it and still have the same problem. So its a problem with the OS and not network related. Saw the same problem on a stock Galaxy S Sim-free.
So Devs, please find a solution to this if possible.
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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how can it be network providers?
I got my handset SIM free (generic UK rom) and have used a few networks. it does it on all of them. and reports of it being the same on other Android devices.
It is nothing to do with networks, it Android OS.
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Hi all,
very strange this. There are four users of XDA-devices in my office (all on T-Mobile), myself (XDA2s), an XDA2, and two Imates (the XDA2 ones). Now, at random times throughout the day we will all recieve a text message with no sender number, but the text of the message is '13779538669'. I have never received this message on my other mobile phone (SE K700i, Voda), and I don't receive it on my Nokia when I use my T-Mobile SIM card in there!
I also only receive this message when I'm in this particular area (WA15, Hale, Cheshire), although a colleague says he gets it when he goes near Manchester Airport (5 miles from here).
What the hell? I know, I wouldn't believe it either unless I'd seen it happening but I promise you, it does happen!
In case you don't believe me :
http://www.houlker.com/odd.jpg
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Dan
Its possible to send no-number SMS messages from services like http://theSMSzone.com
Maybe one of your friends is playing a prank on you?
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Its possible to send no-number SMS messages from services like http://theSMSzone.com
Maybe one of your friends is playing a prank on you?
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Thanks for the reply. It seems unlikely that this is a prank, as four different people get the message and only when we are in the office, or near to the airport! I think it's a broadcast from somewhere nearby, I dunno, I'm still confused :?
Can you check what message centre the message is coming from?
Are these messages Premium-based ?(do they show up on your bill?)
Vodafone NL is unable to send out messages with the normal four-digit numbers... (5 for the uk). Instead they use eleven-digit numbers...
Perhaps in the UK it's the same?
I'd check if you have to pay for receiving those messages...
On the Vodafone website you should be able to retreive info on who's using the specific number...
Goog luck!
might be sent via bluetooth (could be an ad that hasnt displayed right) or it can be send from the internet witch sounds most likley
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might be sent via bluetooth (could be an ad that hasnt displayed right) or it can be send from the internet witch sounds most likley
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Agreed.
Especially since SMS's like these seem to be free coming from theSMSzone.com
Hi,
thanks for the replies, and sorry for the delay in me coming back! The messages aren't coming from a Bluetooth device, because my Bluetooth is always switched off unless I'm in the car.
I don't know how to find the service centre they're coming from, can anybody tell me how?
The messages do not appear on our bills. One thing I've noticed, now that I've upgraded to the 1.40 ROM, is that the sender now has a name of 'Network' rather than blank as it was before.
Obviously there's no harm in these messages, but they're a pain and I'd like to work out where they're coming from to satisfy my own curiousity[sp]!
my uncle has the same thing qith hi unlocked xda2i
he has a t mobile contarct and the messages seem to come fromthe network,
i will have to speak to him to find out why and when they come, but my advice is to ask tmobile about theae messages as i belive there comming from them.
Ariel
arielc said:
my uncle has the same thing qith hi unlocked xda2i
he has a t mobile contarct and the messages seem to come fromthe network,
i will have to speak to him to find out why and when they come, but my advice is to ask tmobile about theae messages as i belive there comming from them.
Ariel
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Hi Ariel,
thanks for your post, and great to hear someone else has this problem and not just us! I spoke today to our service provider, who'd never heard of this before, so he spoke to T-Mobile who also claim to have never heard of this before. They want me to keep a log of dates/times when the message appears :roll: , so that's what I'll do.
Dan
...have you tried to disable cell broadcast in your phone settings menu? this looks very much like a cell broadcast message, i can enable this on my german vodafone used device and get the area code on this way but i get also lots of bull**** notifications taht way. go to settings/phone and i guess its the third tab on the bottom (maybe fourth) where you can find channel settings for cell broadcast - unable it and it should be gone.
feedback welcome!
cheers, lutz
lutzh said:
...have you tried to disable cell broadcast in your phone settings menu? this looks very much like a cell broadcast message, i can enable this on my german vodafone used device and get the area code on this way but i get also lots of bull**** notifications taht way. go to settings/phone and i guess its the third tab on the bottom (maybe fourth) where you can find channel settings for cell broadcast - unable it and it should be gone.
feedback welcome!
cheers, lutz
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Hi Lutz,
thanks for the suggestion. I'm on the 1.4 ROM, so there are five tabs at the bottom of that screen; Phone, Services, Network, Band, More. In More, there is Broadcast Channels, and this box is unticked.
Thanks again
Dan
I've had lots of problems with long texts (5 messages long) failing to send. Occasionally they go out OK, but more often I get an error saying that they haven't been sent.
If I split them down into shorter messages (such as those 3 messages long) then they seem much more successful (although these might be very rarely going wrong too, I'm not sure).
Does anyone know what might be going wrong? (By the way, I'm with t-mobile, if that's relevant.)
Also, I've noticed that when a text gets really long (6 messages long) then it becomes an MMS Message, is there anyway to avoid that? Because I get free texts, but I have to pay for MMS Messages.
Cheers
Paul
Can't help you with regards to the mms not sending as I have the same problem with mine on o2.
But to stop texts converting to mms...had a look on the stock messaging system and can't find this option. I use Handcent and if you go into settings there's an "auto-convert to mms" uncheck that and it should be fine.
Same behaviour as OP on mine too. Been struggling with it since day 1 (t-mobile).
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Had the same problem when I first got my phone. Here is what I did with my phone:
Go to settings>wireless and networks>mobile networks>access point names once you are here, click on the menu button and reset to default. That should sort your problem.
wendy75 said:
Had the same problem when I first got my phone. Here is what I did with my phone:
Go to settings>wireless and networks>mobile networks>access point names once you are here, click on the menu button and reset to default. That should sort your problem.
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Thanks for the tip, but it didn't fix it for me
yep, same here. I though it was just me. (t-mobile uk)
Just tried sending some epic messages with Handcent and that seems to work! Cheers for the tip Who
Sucks that that interface is so ugly though, think I need to find an alternative...
Anyone have any idea why this would work and the normal one wouldn't?
5 Pages!!!! Quicker to ring lol?
steedy27 said:
5 Pages!!!! Quicker to ring lol?
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lol
honestly though this is a very annoying issue, probably the only issue i have with the phone
yesterday was the worst, the text actually refused to send, i tried resending it atleast 100 times.
i dont suppose there is an alternative message centre number?
tmobile uk here too
Any known fix to this annoying issue yet? If you type a message that's longer than 3 sms:es it automatically converts the message into a mms message. Normally I wouldn't care about a "small" issue like this, it's just that I have free sms and I pay for mms messages.
Google said this have been fixed in Froyo, and yes it seems they're absolutely right since the problem is gone on the Nexus one & most other phones running 2.2.
But nothing have changed on the Desire, the problem is still there... Sometimes I wonder if the Desire is running an eclair/froyo hybrid and that HTC have just manipulated the numbers in the "about" screen.
Sigh...
I can type upto 5 sms before it convert into mms.. stock Froyo here
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Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
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Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
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I know it's good and have lots of features, I've tried handcent before but I agree stock HTC SMS app looks so much better so I uninstalled it after a few days. But I might give your suggestion a try, thanks
handcent actually have a setting not to auto convert sms to mms...
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its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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I have an sms-flat --> mms more expensive. But all in all not a too bad idea if you pay for every single sms...
Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?
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Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?
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I was noticing this if I did not go into the text and just read it from the preview. Just go to the text and it should remove the +1. I also use SMS popup and that fixes the issue with the reading of texts.
I use handcent and just disable the stock messaging app.
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I've been noticing that mine has been being screwy here lately. So I've just switched to gosms so
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gogii.textplus
This is what my sister uses.
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I also disabled the stock app, and chose GoSMS.
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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google voice
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google voice
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Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
Seriously, textplus
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dudejb said:
Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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That could just as easily be you're-not-using-it-right. A quick way to test: put your phone in airplane mode, then re-enable Wi-Fi (with airplane mode still on) and connect to a working AP. If you're set up correctly you'll still be able to send messages through the GV app. (And it won't sit on "Sending...", it'll actually deliver the message.) And you shouldn't be charged for it.
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Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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that sucks. i recently noticed i can text my friend in canada now. when i started using gv on my wifi only devices, none of my texts would go through to her. that was about 2 years ago. i dont know when they started allowing it but about a month ago we tried again and it works. im in the us. try the suggested wifi/ap mode thing. thats my usual setup anyways.
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.
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Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.
Have you tried the setting?
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Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.
I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem
How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.
My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.
Not on the iPhone just the note 4
Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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