Ok, explain this to me - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Maybe I'm missing something, but I haven't been quite sure what the difference between 25xxx, 23xxx and 21xxx ROMs are.
Anyone care to elaborate?

I believe it's based on your current OS. 21xx would be WM 6.5, 23xx would be WM 6.5.3, and I'm not sure what 25xx is.
Don't quote me though, I may be wrong.

I think they are all windows 6.5.8 the 2**** is the manilla version
23*** is manilla 2.5 (with the 3 shortcuts on the home page)
21*** is manilla 2.1 (without)
2.1 seems to be a bit more stable than 2.5 and have older apps

stunno said:
I think they are all windows 6.5.8 the 2**** is the manilla version
23*** is manilla 2.5 (with the 3 shortcuts on the home page)
21*** is manilla 2.1 (without)
2.1 seems to be a bit more stable than 2.5 and have older apps
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I'm not sure about that. I'm running 21895 and have the 3 shortcuts plus weather integrated with the home screen.
For example, NRG has multiple 2.5 ROM's. One is 21xxx the other is 23xxx. I believe you're correct in describing the different versions of manilla though.

Demonic240 said:
I'm not sure about that. I'm running 21895 and have the 3 shortcuts plus weather integrated with the home screen.
For example, NRG has multiple 2.5 ROM's. One is 21xxx the other is 23xxx. I believe you're correct in describing the different versions of manilla though.
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The 21xxx, 23xxx 25xxx are all different builds look HERE for more info and HERE

zelendel said:
The 21xxx, 23xxx 25xxx are all different builds look HERE for more info and HERE
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Mk, all I needed to know. Thanks zelendel.

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New Rom-HTC Leo

Apparently the htc leo rom is out and about somewhere and it looks to have manilla 2.5
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/
figured some cooks might be interested.
Interesting.....
hondamx525 said:
Apparently the htc leo rom is out and about somewhere and it looks to have manilla 2.5
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/17/latest-htc-leo-render-seemingly-confirmed-by-leaked-rom/
figured some cooks might be interested.
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It does have Manila 2.5...a little buggy but it works ok. Not as many problems as TF3D2 for Raphael.
Will be included in one of my ROM versions
Sweet thats good to hear. Love the apps on the home screen. What else is new in 2.5?
As far as i know. More settings in Settings Tab. Week view and month view in Calendar.
Had beta ver. on my Xperia almost 2 months a go.
It's not Manila v2.5 but 2.6, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524224
actually in my video it was 2.5 but they already have 2.6 ported for the diamond haha. They move quick.

[REQ] Manila 2.5 as a cab and then as a panel?

hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
I wonder if that's possible? But if yes then that would be really nice.
This is a really good idea...who can help XDA members?
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
thanks Lokatho for the esplaination, btw now that i know about the problem of a cab i was just wondering if a rom with a manila 2.5 PANEL could be built...
-=W1S3=- said:
hi everybody is there any way to have the new manila 2.5 as a cab installer and then as a panel like i used to do whit manila 2.1? thanks
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Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
angusrouse said:
Found this online: http://www.pda4x.com/read.php?tid=103696
Guess they have CABbed Manila 2.5....interesting. Wonder what the file size is.
Now gotta look for a CAB to make it a panel.
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It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
LoL
btw nice to see that my request is appreciated
Mopral said:
It's just a manila 2.5 theme and not a manila 2.5 cab!!!
It was made by a XDA member and you can find it here
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it possible to install in xperia with wm 6.1 ??
Lokatho said:
Actually I can't recommend installing TF3D by cab, because it consists of a lot (and I mean a lot, certainly 2.5!!) of files. And installing it by cab will make a huge impact on the system.
The first TF3D for X1 was available as a cab, but the diffence between installing by cab or cooked in where huge. TF3D by cab had all sorts of quirks and was slow a h*ll.....
FOr example, the manila 2.1 package alone is almost 40mb (and 2.5 is even bigger) so you end up with a cab of about 50mb.
But back to the point, haven't seen a cab of manila 2.5 (and there probably will not be one for the above reason).
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Make ROM that will preserve all user info and programs and i will update immediately.
Flash a ROM!
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
I think that Valkyrie 3.2 is the best....but there are others....like NRG's wwe energyrom....and ITJE TOUCHIT LEO...
if you want 2.5 you need to flash!
and as far as a panel goes...it would be relativley pointless if you are already using 2.5 as your homescreen....
and if you are a NEWB....you should look and search into 2.5, the threads and roms before opening relatively pointless threads...
just my 2 cents
acidbath5546 said:
It would be really pointless to have a cab of 2.5, it would slow down your whole device and would barely run!
if you want 2.5, to the easiest and best way, flash to one of our chef's great ROMS!
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You are right, apart from the fact that (as stated out in my recent thread) you are supposing that everyone is in love with WM6.5.
I was looking as well for a cabbed Manila 2.5 to install it on WM6.1, so it would really be great to have it (or, have it cooked on a WM6.1)
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
there is a manila 2 cab
linkt to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178
its a bit confusing, you have to download EnableRapi.cab first and install it. (in wont work the other way around, i tried it.
than you install the new manila 2 cab to internal memory. (that takes about 2 hours + in the tread are 3 different manilla cab files and only one has landscape i think, the beta3 but just use my link)
i have direct links to the files
EnableRapi cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300592 (you have to scroll down a bit till you see the file)
manila 2 cab: http://rapidshare.com/files/218194087/TF3DHDB3.cab
and about the speed of manila 2, i have it installed one week ago and it crashed 1 time so far because i pressed accidently on picture presentation and than on weather tab and than switched to landscape (that was too much xD). and tabs like programs, settings and weather always take some time to show up. (about 2-4 seconds) all other tabs are fast once they loaded the first time. landcape switch takes always around 4 secounds, never longer.
and someone said its a huge impact on the device to install a 45mb cab file, and that might be true, but i have installed like 3 different manilas and this one 3 times (and uninstalled again, it never worked because i always forgot something) i never hardresetted the x1 after all the installing and it still works quiet good.
forgot to say, its not a panel, just a today element. and im using winmo 6.1
Thanks to show them how to install manila 2.0 on Wm6.1 but they search a cab for manila 2.5
yes, i understood all you're saying, so i know that a rom with manila 2.5 in it will run better. Now that i know it, i'd like to know if with a rom like this will be possible to run the manila as a panel instead of run it as the standard today screen. I want this option just because i like to change today home screen very often and also because if i have manila 2.5 in use in the today and i open another panel, it will still run in backgroung, making the whole phone go slower...
(sorry for my bad english :S hope you'll understand it...)
rotastrain said:
there are modules and dll's for the new leo which wont work on 6.1
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Miri did a WM6.1 ROM with Leo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278

New manilla?

I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
manana12 said:
I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
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Manila 2.5 will not work on the Vogue.
To get Mobile Shell, you just need to go to their SPB's website and download it, here is a link...
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
manana12 said:
I read somewhere there is manilla2d 2.5? Im not certain but i though i saw a new menu on top of the sliding menu on the bottom? Maybe it was a theme also, could someone send me a link and possibly a guide how to get spb mobile shell on my vogue? i couldnt find one on here. Thanks.
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For further clarification, there is no such thing as "manilla 2d 2.5"
The latest manilla 2d is 2.0 1919.1432 from the "mega"
Confusingly the latest Manilla 3d is also ver 1919 (leo), however 2.1 and 2.5 generally refer to manilla 3d (also known as TouchFlo, now "sense")
Manilla 2d is the version of Manilla without 3d animations, and runs on devices with less processing power annd RAM. That being said, the latest version does feature an actual flipping clock.
Manilla 3d is feature and animation rich. It was first seen on the Diamond, then others such as TouchPro, HD etc. The latest version comes form the Leo aka HD2.
Our Vogue does not use M3D, the processor and ram aren't enough and we would need hardware supported openGL to run it. NFSFAN came close, but not close enough.
jmitr said:
For further clarification, there is no such thing as "manilla 2d 2.5"
The latest manilla 2d is 2.0 1919.1432 from the "mega"
Confusingly the latest Manilla 3d is also ver 1919 (leo), however 2.1 and 2.5 generally refer to manilla 3d (also known as TouchFlo, now "sense")
Manilla 2d is the version of Manilla without 3d animations, and runs on devices with less processing power annd RAM. That being said, the latest version does feature an actual flipping clock.
Manilla 3d is feature and animation rich. It was first seen on the Diamond, then others such as TouchPro, HD etc. The latest version comes form the Leo aka HD2.
Our Vogue does not use M3D, the processor and ram aren't enough and we would need hardware supported openGL to run it. NFSFAN came close, but not close enough.
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Nice explanation
egzthunder1 said:
Nice explanation
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Completely agree.
Also, what do you mean NSFAN came close?
manana12 said:
Completely agree.
Also, what do you mean NSFAN came close?
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A while back, when M2D was being ported to QVGA devices, there were developers (including Chainfire and herg) who were working towards getting TF3D to work on QVGA. However, it was too complicated due to the fact that a bunch of this was coded in lua and there were thousands of images that needed to be scaled down from VGA to QVGA. Long story short, that project stopped once M2D came out as it was "good enough". I believe NFSFan was part of that development team as well, which is why he mentioned that he "came close".
Crap, and i just spent the last 2 hrs searching the net for a QVGA Manila 2.6 for my Vogue.
edgarpoe said:
Crap, and i just spent the last 2 hrs searching the net for a QVGA Manila 2.6 for my Vogue.
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...Only to encounter my very philosophical revelation about M2D

WM6.5 23xxx new way to enter appointments

I know people are gonna come down on me as if I killed their favorite cat, but I couldn't find what I was looking for with search.
I noticed that some ROMs with 23xxx WM builds have some kind of a new WM calendar (or something) that has a new way of entering appointments and tasks. It has the "rollers" for time and the whole interface looks different.
RRE ROM had it, NRG's doesn't, and I really miss that part.
Can anybody tell me what specifically is that thing and how can I get it?
Thanks
DarkDvr said:
I know people are gonna come down on me as if I killed their favorite cat, but I couldn't find what I was looking for with search.
I noticed that some ROMs with 23xxx WM builds have some kind of a new WM calendar (or something) that has a new way of entering appointments and tasks. It has the "rollers" for time and the whole interface looks different.
RRE ROM had it, NRG's doesn't, and I really miss that part.
Can anybody tell me what specifically is that thing and how can I get it?
Thanks
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NRG has it in the Energy Leo ROMS.... Just used it...
You need a 6.5.3 ROM... I really like the 23541 Version... So far it is stable...
sphinx88 said:
NRG has it in the Energy Leo ROMS.... Just used it...
You need a 6.5.3 ROM... I really like the 23541 Version... So far it is stabljje...
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That's what I have installed, 23xxx with Manila 2.5 (Leo) Feb 26 and I dont have it. I didnt have it in January version either.
DarkDvr said:
That's what I have installed, 23xxx with Manila 2.5 (Leo) Feb 26 and I dont have it. I didnt have it in January version either.
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ARe you entering in a new appointment off the Sense tab? If you open the MS calendar, it is not there... But if you do "New Appointment" from the TAB it works for me..

Whts the difference in these 3

whts the difference between sense,manila, & touch flow 3d
sorry if this question is stupid,
The difference between Sense and Manilla are nothing, they are both the same. TF3D is like Sense but its a older software developed in the OEM Windows Mobilw 6.1. Most of Windows 6.5 are Sense 2.1. Hope it helps.
thn what is tf3d?
makak8889 said:
thn what is tf3d?
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"Manila" is the code name HTC has been using for it's shell interface for a while now. The first versions of Manila were referred to as TF3D (TouchFLO3D), up through TF3D 2.1. Then, the next upgrade to Manila was called "Sense", and was intended to be somewhat standardized across WM and Android.
There's a few stock ROM's, and a couple of custom ones, that have WM 6.1 and TF3D with it...but all carriers now have an upgrade to 6.5 and at least Sense 2.1, and there's tons of custom ROMs with those and higher versions.

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