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Well, as Zero hour is fast approaching on what i have been told by business cs at T-Mobile (UK) that the TP2 aka Vario 5 will be out on Tuesday (Subject to anymore push backs) i thought id start a thread so we can discuss our findings etc.
I will be giving them a call on Tuesday to see if i can get my grubby little hands on it and will let you all know if i get any success!
Those of you that know me from the Kaiser Section of this board will know I did the same with the Vario 3 and ended up with a huge mass of "Im calling now, cmooooon" and it was rather funny to read!
Jas
I am interested in a vario 5 too. I wonder what the price and contract will be.
Well i spoke to a chap at T-Mobile on Tuesday last week and i asked about pricing and as it wasnt out he couldnt be sure etc but said he thought that it would be free on my account which is a Business Flext 35 + WnW Pro which comes to ~£45/month.
I'll give them a call today and see what they say.
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Well i spoke to a chap at T-Mobile on Tuesday last week and i asked about pricing and as it wasnt out he couldnt be sure etc but said he thought that it would be free on my account which is a Business Flext 35 + WnW Pro which comes to ~£45/month.
I'll give them a call today and see what they say.
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I think it ought to be free for £45 a month. I currently pay half that for the basic package (including the basic webn'walk) which is OK for me.
keep us updated mate, im interested as to when they'll be getting stock, contract runs out on wednesday and mpd have been messing me about a bit!
id imagine it'll be free on a £35/month contract...
Gah, you got a date!
When I rang Orange last week I got 'within the next two weeks'.
Blimey! That would be quick... i remember when we used to wait months from a HTC release to a branded version.
I currently have a pre-order paid for and waiting for an Acer M900 and (diferences aside) I will possibly get which ever I can first .... and as i'm already on TMob, this could be the deciding factor!
Although, after my TD I swore I would never get another HTC device .....
Surely this cannot be true!!!!
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No FM Radio, but I never used it on the Touch Pro
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No FM Radio? Then its a no-buy for me. I need my Absolute Radio going around the M25 in the mornings.
I don't get why everyone trips over the missing radio. If you use the radio a lot, why not buy a portable one (they are cheap) with a 3,5 mm headphone jack.
because i'd then need to carry ANOTHER device in my very small motorbike jacket pockets - so, a converged device (Read, contains FM radio) is exactly what i need.
I just called T-Mobile UK to enquire about the availablility of this phone as I too am due an upgrade and they say it is NOT on there list for release this week
John
hardly surprising that the left hand and right hand dont know what they are doing.
Your best bet, unless your in a REAL rush, is to wait. Wasn't it supposed to be tomorrow? Surley you can wait for that
yah tmob telling me nada to tomorrow
Well an update for you all:
Ive basicly spent the entire day on the phone to T-Mobile (reorganising contracts - not just pestering them about a release date!) and ended up getting quite high up the ladder and they have started playing the "Well it is coming soon but it could be another couple of months yet" card.
To be honest and sorry to let everyone down from an update point of view, ive just ordered one sim free from work so i wont be getting any more updates from them, Although i am on the "High Priority First Call" list so they will call me as soon as it comes out.... apparently, no doubt we shall know here before they ring anyway though.
Mine should be arriving tomorrow and ill try and do a nice review of it but to be honest theres already a few in detail reviews and i doubt mine would cover anything that they havent already done.
I am looking forward to it though i must say!
Jas
i've landed myself an unbranded touchpro2/mda vario v from mobilephones direct on t-mobile uk. yep they are offering the touch pro 2 free on a 18 month contract at 39.15gbp monthly. no need for CID or security unlocks when hardspl get released etc. next delivery on all items so i think thats a smashing deal!
i also signed up with mobilesphonesdirect for the pro2 after i've been told the vario5 should be out by the end of June which i don't want to wait. i prefer the phone unlocked and in it's original design.
mobilephones direct
Can I ask how you guys are getting the phone for free. When I rang up they told me to ring tmobile and find out what my upgrade value was (it was £200). I gave mobilephones direct this and they said the phone would cost me £250 to upgrade. Have you all got higher upgrade status or was I just unlucky and spoke to the wrong person!
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Can I ask how you guys are getting the phone for free. When I rang up they told me to ring tmobile and find out what my upgrade value was (it was £200). I gave mobilephones direct this and they said the phone would cost me £250 to upgrade. Have you all got higher upgrade status or was I just unlucky and spoke to the wrong person!
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It's free on certain NEW contracts.
shingers5 said:
i've landed myself an unbranded touchpro2/mda vario v from mobilephones direct on t-mobile uk. yep they are offering the touch pro 2 free on a 18 month contract at 39.15gbp monthly. no need for CID or security unlocks when hardspl get released etc. next delivery on all items so i think thats a smashing deal!
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You will need CID / Sec Unlock unless you got a pre-release version.
Even then most pre-rel devices are CID locked (by that I mean need Hard SPL to flash unsigned custom ROMs) still. You can check sec unlock status in the bootloader. Does it say Security unlocked at the top?
Dave
how did you get your upgrade value? I've tried and nobody from tmob will give it to me.
Neil.
Orange UK seem to be doing what they are best at.
Every time I speak to someone from Orange (once a week for the last 6 weeks) to find out if the Touch Pro 2 has been released I get a different answer.
Back on the 26th May I spoke to someone who had a look and said that the phone was still on the "coming soon" list. He had a look else where and found that the phone was listed to be first released as a SBC (Small Business Customer) phone and then a little later for none business users. He had no date but said it should be early to mid June.
Yesterday I was told there is still no date, but it should be released mid to late June. The guy at orange started to explain how to go about through a 3rd party to get the upgrade but then I lost my signal. I rang back and was then told that the phone would definatly not be out with in the next 4 weeks.
Today I rang up and was told that there is no date listed, but the phone is still just "coming soon". I said about the person from yesturday, but the lady has no idea why I was told a definate no for the next 4 weeks as it could come out tomorrow, 2 weeks, 4 weeks or not at all. I also asked about the phone first being available to business customers and was told that there is no mention about the phone being a business phone and the release would be wide spread across the whole of orange UK. The lady has also put me on a ring back service, will check daily to see if the phone had been released and let me know if it has... While I have no reason to dis-believe this, I dont hold much hope.
I have rang around, but cant find a phone dealer that can do an upgrade for me with the Touch Pro 2
Little to say, I am getting a bit tired of all the different answers I get.
When I got my Tytn 2 from orange it was only listed as a business phone and I think the Touch Pro 2 will probably be the same way
Does any one here have any more information or shed any light on the release of the phone as an orange branded handset, be it for business or none business use.
Firstly I'll say that their ring-back service worked for me. This was back when the TyTN2 was released. They sent me a text on the day it became available telling me to call them, which I did instantly. The next day I had the phone in my hands. So have some faith.
However, the wait may be long, or short.
I used to be on Orange (having been a VERY loyal, high spending customer) for many years, but I have since become very cheesed off with their outdated tariffs and delays bringing phones to the market.
I have now switched to Vodafone, and while I don't get anywhere near as good signal strength, they provide a decent enough service for me.
I am sad I had to move away from orange, but it's too little too late.
See, I like Orange's service and the service plan I am on is very good value for money and they consider me somewhat of a 'loyal customer'.
I am in exactly the same boat as you, I've been speaking to different people and it's gone from 'within 2 weeks' (this was mid may I was told this) to the phone not being listed on the system, to the Diamond2 being released?
It seems the HD is out of stock and I had been told that it was being discontinued and replaced by another handset. Some reps have told me that it was Touch Pro2 and some have told me they do not know.
I've just been emailing Orange (they have this irritating habit where you hit the reply button and a different person replies) all of them told me it was only going to be released on Business, but like another person in this thread I also have a TyTn II on a personal account.
This morning the Touch HD was taken off the website! So I'm going to keep playing it from the angle of 'What phone is going to replace the HD on the personal account' and 'I want a Windows Mobile phone with a keyboard because I can't stand purely touch screen phones!
I really really want to keep my contract and just get an Orange branded Pro2
Just spoke to them on the phone about the HD disappearing off the website. Apparently they're looking at replacing it with the Touch Diamond2 and when I said does that have a keyboard? He said no it doesn't but the Touch Pro2 does (in a hesistant voice).
I went on to ask whether that would be available for me to upgrade to as a personal user and he said yes it should be, but there is no indication of price yet as it's too early on.
I'm sure the next person I speak too, will tell me otherwise...
The Orange tariffs seem to suit me quite well... There might be a better tariff for me somewhere, but at the moment my monthly bill only usually differs pennies each month and i can really hammer the phone some months.
When I asked about the upgrade price about a month I go I was told that I would probably get the phone for free being that I am a long time loyal high value none business customer (have been on one of the top tariffs now for 6 or 7 years).
Infact when I got the tytn2 (which was only available for business customers at the time), Orange actually credited my account with £100 for me to stay and take the the phone off their hands.
I guess only time will tell with the rhodium
I just wish that Orange would be a bit quicker at releasing new phones.
Out of interest, I wonder if Orange list the rhodium as having an inbuilt GPS receiver. Orange seem to insist that the rhodium does not have a GPS, although it does have an FM radio :S Come to think about it, they also insisted that the tytn2 didnt have a GPS either when I upgraded to that
I got another response today from someone that seemed a bit more human.
Hello
Thank you for your email into the Orange shop.
I have checked the website and we have 2 HTC phones on sale.
We have the HTC Touch 3G and the HTC Touch Diamond(tm)
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/all
We also have the HTC Touch Pro 2 in review at the moment. Fingers crossed
this one will make the cut as it's a brilliant phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
Hope this helps
Sarah
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I'm reckoning I might get it for free, although I haven't been as long term as you with Orange, I just want them to list it as coming soon! It's driving me mad, I can be so impatient with stuff like this sometimes haha.
For orange France it's not planned yet...
I wait because I want to by it with mobile contract at less price than unbranded...
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I just want them to list it as coming soon! It's driving me mad, I can be so impatient with stuff like this sometimes haha.
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Yup +1 that.... Orange are in danger of loosing out if they wait much longer- Hmm Xperia X2 anyone?
I've had our company phones with Orange for over 10 years, but have just switched to Vodafone. We save around £500 per month (20 Touch Pro and Pro 2 all free), have all data included in the plan plus managed services with antivirus, firewall etc and the cuistomer service people I speak with are much more responsive than Orange. No problems with connectivity. The choice of handset and talk / data plans is far better than Orange and in the 3 months we've been with Vodafone I have experienced no probs whatsoever.
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I've had our company phones with Orange for over 10 years, but have just switched to Vodafone. We save around £500 per month (20 Touch Pro and Pro 2 all free), have all data included in the plan plus managed services with antivirus, firewall etc and the cuistomer service people I speak with are much more responsive than Orange. No problems with connectivity. The choice of handset and talk / data plans is far better than Orange and in the 3 months we've been with Vodafone I have experienced no probs whatsoever.
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See, I've been provided a fabulous service with Orange. My price plan is very cheap and I get a lot for my money. I'm on the £8 a month internet bundle which apparently is limited to 500mb or whatever but I usually use over a gig a month and never get charged.
I'm going to wait it out, I just up hope some new information crops up in the next week. They'd be able to release it if Orange didn't bog down the phone with so much crap!
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Orange UK seem to be doing what they are best at.
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Not helpful sorry, but if its any consolation, I am getting the same run around from o2. Least with Orange, they have to keep releasing the 'business' class devices. o2 (I think) are going to limit the new devices to push people towards the iphone (sorry for swearing) or blackberry. Neither of which I personally want.
I just spoke with Orange business Sales
They say it should be available to first for Business Sales than Upgrades,
It will be available after the end of the 19th of July
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They say it should be available to first for Business Sales than Upgrades,
It will be available after the end of the 19th of July
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What's your source, what's your source!?
Was that meant to say 'then' rather than 'than'? I'm really hoping that you mean will be available for new contracts after the 19th of July as apposed to starting the release then...
Orange have updated their coming soon page on the consumer site.... no sign of TP2 yet
However I've been diligently checking the page for the past few months (I know, i know...) and updates seem to take place around 14-16th of each month.
Hoping that this darn phone turns up soon.
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Orange have updated their coming soon page on the consumer site.... no sign of TP2 yet
However I've been diligently checking the page for the past few months (I know, i know...) and updates seem to take place around 14-16th of each month.
Hoping that this darn phone turns up soon.
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Haha, I've been doing this too. I may as well have it as my homepage.. They have definitely updated the Coming Soon list at least twice this month (including today) so I don't think your theory is entirely true.
Come on Orange! My contract expires this week!
Just spoken with Orange and the phone is currently in testing and it there will only be limited number handset to start off with for Business Account holders .
Imagine Orange are fecking up software as we speak
Orange is busy with the Iphone 3GS in pre-ordering and nothing for the TP2...
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Orange is busy with the Iphone 3GS in pre-ordering and nothing for the TP2...
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They're releasing the iPhone 3Gs? I didn't know O2 weren't keeping it exclusively anymore.
Orange updated their coming soon list! No TP2 though
Just got off the phone with Orange.
Apparently it's 'limited stock' at the moment and that the update on their server today said that they were in testing mode. If it pasts tests then it will be given to business customers in limited stock, then if it is popular they'll release it to personal customers.
What was interesting, was that he said if an Orange shop stocks the phone, they might be a to give to you on a personal contract as 'they have more leeway than the telesales'.
Sigh, the wait carries on...
ORANGE now sell the TP2
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...1=Phone&pagename=Business&t=SMEDeviceFeatures
What's with O2... they haven't confirmed anything about any new XDA phones....especially and XDA in the form of HTC Touch Pro 2 :-(
There is an interesting thread on the O2 forums where O2 claim that the Touch Pro2 is too similar to the iphone and will not be releasing it on the O2 network.
Any confirm or deny this please?
The link to the O2 forum thread on this subject is here:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=20249
(is this link allowed? If not, my apologies- admin feel free to remove it!)
I have an old HTC Tytn from Vodafone UK, i left them last month, a day before they announced HTC Touch Pro2! I'm now with O2....so will be very gutted if they don’t release TP2 :-(
Cheers
Riaz
confirmed from O2 UK...
just got this from O2...
Good afternoon, Thank you for your enquiry. We unfortunately do not have any indication as to whether the HTC Touch Pro 2 will be released on the O2 network. Please feel free to give us a call on 0800 781 0202 if you wish to discuss alternative options. Our lines are open between 8am and 9pm Monday to Friday and 9am to 5:30pm on weekends. We look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Jerome Van RooyenO2 Business Marketing Team
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just got this from O2...
Good afternoon, Thank you for your enquiry. We unfortunately do not have any indication as to whether the HTC Touch Pro 2 will be released on the O2 network. Please feel free to give us a call on 0800 781 0202 if you wish to discuss alternative options. Our lines are open between 8am and 9pm Monday to Friday and 9am to 5:30pm on weekends. We look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Jerome Van RooyenO2 Business Marketing Team
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Keep an eye on http://mobiles.co.uk.
A mate of mine got a HD from them.
Dave
looks like they are not releasing (well not yet anyway) the Touch Pro 2 or Diamond 2 on O2!
this is ridiculous comparing them to the Iphone - XDA's are totally different (and much better!)
looks like people on businees tariff will get screwed over as they won't be able to get the latest handsets.
If they are similar to the Iphone does that mean they won't release any more high end XDA's? - Windows mobile has been touch screen pretty much since day one!
O2 have really let themselves down just lately. I had an XDA Serra (Touch Pro) from them after selling my HTC branded one to make a bit of extra cash. After the HTC one was sold, the Serra died, just out of nowhere, the screen faded to black and never came back on. The buttons worked and I could even see what was meant to be on the screen through SOTI Pocket Controller on my PC, but the screen was just dead. I returned it woth the "promise" of a replacement "as soon as they were back in stock". Needless to say they never were back in stock, and what was the best thhey could offer me??? An XDA Zest. Please! They tried to sell it to me like it was the new iPhone or something. In reality, I knew more about their WinMos than the sales guy did, and to be honest that frustrated me big time, because he wouldn't listen...
So now O2 only have the XDA Ignito (Diamond) and XDA Zest available. A pretty poor selection for a company that used to have such great devices for their time. I can only see it going one way from here...iPhone, iPhone, bloody iPhone. They have already said they are not tied to HTC, which suggests to me that they are moving away to less kind-of iPhone-beater/competitor models, which they've also said they wont stock due to their exclusivity with Apple.
I do my own upgrades....get the most valuable handset O2 will give you (even if you don't like it), sell it on ebay, use the money you get back to buy the latest HTC device when it's released, sell it on when they release a new one you like the look of. Don't hold on to one for too long (I'd say 9 months is about the limit) because they'll lose too much value and you'll end up spending too much extra to get the new model you want. Keep your O2 contract running, you can still take their most valuable upgrade every 12/18 months and pocket the cash, and you get all your inclusive minutes, texts, data allowance etc.
Once you have taken the first step in forking out for the device you want (by selling your upgrade or digging deep into your own pocket), it's really just about keeping up with HTC, which isn't that hard. I now have a Rhodium/TP2 that cost me nearly nothing due to using this method of self-upgrading.
I am one of the people on that O2 thread expressing my anger.
I have the Serra at the moment and my contract is due for an upgrade 10th of August.
I am very annoyed because at the moment my only choices are the Zest (not Zinc ) and the Ignito. So what do they expect me to upgrade to?
I acquired my Serra through an insurance claim about a month ago as I broke my Stellar and they were no longer in production with O2. (Bargain!) So It is not to bad If I have to stick with it for a while, aslong as O2 do expect to release something new...
At the moment I am sure all they would offer me is the Iphone... Ha. No.
Have emailed them various times, but never really get a brilliant answer from them...
On the plus side, O2 Germany do have the Diamond 2 on sale and the Touch HD... Hope us Britain's get cut some slack to!
I've commented in that thread as well.
The bottom line is that O2 are so obviously pushing the iPoke that they think they can run a complete business model based on it. People like ourselves who look for something up to date and technically impressive are left out in the cold.
If the network won't stock it, then the choices are either ditch the network on the next upgrade or upgrade with a damn good phone you don't want, sell it on eBay and use the money towards a phone you DO want.
My wife's phone is due an upgrade in September so she can start upgrading in August. She wants the HTC Magic, but you can only get that on Vodafone. I've asked her to upgrade to the TP2 (for me), I'll sell my X1 on eBay, and use the money to buy her a HTC Magic SIM free.
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I've commented in that thread as well.
The bottom line is that O2 are so obviously pushing the iPoke that they think they can run a complete business model based on it. People like ourselves who look for something up to date and technically impressive are left out in the cold.
If the network won't stock it, then the choices are either ditch the network on the next upgrade or upgrade with a damn good phone you don't want, sell it on eBay and use the money towards a phone you DO want.
My wife's phone is due an upgrade in September so she can start upgrading in August. She wants the HTC Magic, but you can only get that on Vodafone. I've asked her to upgrade to the TP2 (for me), I'll sell my X1 on eBay, and use the money to buy her a HTC Magic SIM free.
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Exactly what I was saying. This is by far the best method...do your own upgrades. You get the handset you want rather than what they are limited to offering you.
I've just spoken to a pretty helpful guy in retentions called Paul. His line was that the Touch Pro 2 and the Touch Diamond 2 were both going to be coming at some point, but couldn't say when because of a combination of the iphone release and looking at how well the the TP2/TD2 fare.
Interestingly he tried to pursuade me to stay with the allure of the Palm Pre (which he mistakenly said was also WM) which will be out in the next couple of months.
Thanks nosdrahcir very useful to know that O2 (might) be releasing it....but why are we getting mixed messages from O2....i'm sure they will be losing business customers to Vodafone if they continue in this way!
I just got this from our O2 business manager...
Thank you for your enquiry Mr xxxxx. We do not have any immediate plans of selling the HTC Touch Pro 2 (or the O2 equivalent) on the O2 network.
arghhh.. how frustrating
Riaz
o2 is launching the touch pro2 on 1st july in GERMANY ..
And they only announced that 5 days before the fact (3 working days).
Do you really think O2 UK will give you much more notice than that?
The correct answer is "Don't count on it".
I was on a SIM only contract with O2 with my Touch Pro. My TP is now on ebay (ends saturday) and i have started a contract with Vodafone.
When i rang up O2 there customer service was pretty ****ty (although when i rang up to cancel contract very nice. Surprising!) and they said there were a few new O2 XDA phones coming through in the next month or so and you could wait for them if you want.
As you can see i couldnt wait and now ive moved to Vodafone.
Well with it being available in Germany and in the Czech Republic now, you would hope they would bring it to the UK soon. I can wait until September/October if need be. But then I will be already 2/3 months out of contract...
New business-model
Talking with a nice telephon-girl she told me, that O2 is going to seperate mobilephones and phonecontracts. So it doesn't matter whether you buy at ebay or amazon.com or at o2. I think there will be some paying-models - but in future the phone and your contract should be seperately sold.
Also Vertrag und Telefon werden getrennt verkauft und nicht wie bisher üblich gemeinsam.
got mine from mobile.co.uk
well started with the touch hd
dropped on floor screen cracked then the insurance with o2 sent me the lovely pro 2
lucky me
The Desire will be my first smartphone. I wanted to know whether it's recommended to buy direct from a network provider.
T-Mobile seem to have some reasonable deals for the Desire. Do I buy direct from them, or look to somewhere like mobilescouk or another reseller, where I think the phone is unlocked and comes with no network branding? (but the overall price is higher)
From what I've read so far, it looks like the main concerns with buying direct would be about network specific 'crapware', and potential delays in updates to firmware/ROM.
What are the Pros & Cons of either option? Any thoughts please?
My honest opinion is go for T-mobile... my handset will cost 24mths £330. But unlike just buying a handset from somewhere else, I get messages, minutes, internet included!
If want it unlocked I think it will cost £15. Regarding the updates not sure what the difference really is.. its my first Android phone and still learning (and not missing WinMo at all!)
I'm wondering about this myself. I have one on order from clove but my wallet is getting itchy. The 3G signal on t-mobile is dire round here.
[EDIT] SIM only from O2 will have to do I guess...
i ordered mine over telephone from tmobile and waiting for it probably till tuesday
tmobile has the best offers on their webiste, all the other retailers have worst deals, though tmobile has simlocked handsets and retailers dont. but for £15 you can get it unlocked. and service is quite good and no problem with returns if you see any faults.
if you dont want tmobile then dont look at other providers webistes such as vodafone cuz their offer is crap comparing to i.e. mobiles.co.uk
carphone warehouses offer is also really expensive comparing with others however you get your phone straight without waiting etc
retailers tend to mess up delivery times and might have some problems with returns.
I am currently sitting here banging my head against the wall trying to decide what to do aswell.
I'm with 3 on a £15 sim only and very happy with their coverage and i know they are releasing it in 2 weeks or so but i am getting the urge NOW !
It's so frustrating but i want to see what they're going to be offering contract wise.
Buying it unlocked now is going to cost me £400. 18 months with my current sim only on top would be £670.
A T mobile contract would be £434 over 18 months.
Every sensible bone in my body says don't buy it unlocked now but the evil bit inside me is shouting "don't get tied in, do it do it do it do it" 24 hours a day
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Every sensible bone in my body says don't buy it unlocked now but the evil bit inside me is shouting "don't get tied in, do it do it do it do it" 24 hours a day
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I hear you with that. I've just been stuck with a SE C702 for 18 months and it's completely put me off contracts (and SE!). I'm probably going to wait for mine to come from clove just so I have the 7 day distance selling regs return period. Probably going with O2 PAYG as I hardly make any calls...
[EDIT] Also so I get the generic ROM without needing to do anything. I wouldn't want to kill my phone the first time I bought one SIM-free!
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I hear you with that. I've just been stuck with a SE C702 for 18 months and it's completely put me off contracts (and SE!). I'm probably going to wait for mine to come from clove just so I have the 7 day distance selling regs return period. Probably going with O2 PAYG as I hardly make any calls...
[EDIT] Also so I get the generic ROM without needing to do anything. I wouldn't want to kill my phone the first time I bought one SIM-free!
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Yea the 7 day return period comes in handy.
Now looks like i will definitely be going unlocked because 3 have just released their contract price and it's not as good as T mobs.
Just have to decide if i keep the £15 sim only now.
Hi - thanks for the comments so far.
If you buy direct from T-Mobile, is the ROM somehow 'locked' - or can you download & install updated ROMs from HTC's website when they're made available?
And if the ROM is T-Mobile 'locked', can any previous T-Mobile HTC phone owners comment on what T-Mobile are like when it comes to updating ROMs?
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Hi - thanks for the comments so far.
If you buy direct from T-Mobile, is the ROM somehow 'locked' - or can you download & install updated ROMs from HTC's website when they're made available?
And if the ROM is T-Mobile 'locked', can any previous T-Mobile HTC phone owners comment on what T-Mobile are like when it comes to updating ROMs?
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t-mobile phones are simlocked but unbranded, you can unlock your phone from their webiste for £15 which takes about a month or for 25Euros if you need it next day(from some website the link i forgot)
and if you decide not to unlock your device you will have to wait for t-mobile to release their version of the software htc released before
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I am currently sitting here banging my head against the wall trying to decide w o do aswell.
I'm with 3 on a £15 sim only and very happy with their coverage and i know they are releasing it in 2 weeks or so but i am getting the urge NOW !
It's so frustrating but i want to see w hey're going to be offering contract wise.
Buying it unlocked now is going to cost me £400. 18 months with my current sim only on top would be £670.
A T mobile contract would be £434 over 18 months.
Every sensible bone in my body says don't buy it unlocked now but the evil bit inside me is shouting "don't get tied in, do it do it do it do it" 24 hours a day
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if you dont like the idea of being trapped then put it this way, if you have the upfront cash put that into a bank account and use that to pay the monthly bills that way if something new comes out you will be no worse off just buy that and pay off the contract and its still less. just go for it.
cez10 said:
t-mobile phones are simlocked but unbranded, you can unlock your phone from their webiste for £15 which takes about a month or for 25Euros if you need it next day(from some website the link i forgot)
and if you decide not to unlock your device you will have to wait for t-mobile to release their version of the software htc released before
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Are you saying that if I pay T-Mobile to get the phone SIM unlocked, that this would also unlock any restriction that T-Mobile have over the ROM? Is anyone able to confirm this?
TBH, having a T-Mobile 'tweaked' ROM, instead of an up-to-date HTC ROM, is the one thing that's putting me off from buying from T-Mobile. Looking at the threads about today's OTA firmware update, it appears T-Mobile are already behind the game. Or am I just worrying about something that I don't really need to?
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Are you saying that if I pay T-Mobile to get the phone SIM unlocked, that this would also unlock any restriction that T-Mobile have over the ROM? Is anyone able to confirm this?
TBH, having a T-Mobile 'tweaked' ROM, instead of an up-to-date HTC ROM, is the one thing that's putting me off from buying from T-Mobile. Looking at the threads about today's OTA firmware update, it appears T-Mobile are already behind the game. Or am I just worrying about something that I don't really need to?
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I am not 100% sure if unlocking debrands the phone as well
De-branding basically means removing awful operator firmware, and replacing it with the manufacturers original firmware. Hence converting your phone to the full spec as it was intended by the manufacturer. (the way it should be)
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I think your worrying about something you dont need to t-mobile have the best offers on the market so far andI dont think it will change quickly, even if you choose to unlock your phone youre still saving money comparing to other retailers prices
ok
I have done some forum reading and have learned a lot from it (I think...) but I still have some remaining questions seeing as some of the posts are old and I'm sure things have changed by now.
Some things I have learned, correct me if I'm wrong.
SGH-i317M:
- Model provided by Bell
- LTE
- Up to 75Mb - 150mb Depending on towers
N7105:
- LTE
- Uses more battery in LTE mode
- Up to 75Mb - 150mb Depending on towers
N7100:
- NOT LTE
- Up to 21Mb to 45Mb Depending on towers
The thing is I live in Fredericton NB Canada and after looking over the Bell Tower Map there are no towers around me that are faster then a 21Mb to 45Mb. and knowing Bell it will be years before there is any here... With that in mind I have come to an unfortunate conclusion that LTE would be useless to me at this time. So I'm thinking of get a N7100. (correct me if I'm making the wrong choice)
The question I have about the N7100 are:
- Will it work with Bell Canada?
- Will it have better Battery life because it doesn't have LTE?
- Any one know where to buy one in Canada?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give!
No Canadian Note 2 users out there?
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Yes N7100 will work for Canada. As for battery life note 2 already has a big mah capacity. I'm using N7100 with Rogers right now. I got mines locally so prices will vary. But should be in the $600 range
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I just went to buy my N7100 at Newegg.ca and now there sold out... They had some yesterday there gos that idea... :crying:
Ok, Enough Crying. What is the current story on SGH-i317M?
For some reason Rogers sell it for $650 but Bell if $730 for the same phone.. What the hell is up with that?
So looks like I'll have to buy the Rogers one, I assume it can be rooted to work on the Bell Network?
What has the ROM action been like as of late for the "SGH-i317M"? I know in older post people where saying there was not much support, is that still the same?
http://www.expansys.ca/samsung-gala...tphone-16gb-gray-unlocked-850-1900-3g-236052/ (It says $675 on front page but its $650 + shipping when u add to cart)
No idea why Bell has a higher price one. Just unlock the phone and it can be used with any of the carriers.
Was just about to order that one from expansys.ca then I seen it is out of stock looks like I'm back to the SGH-i317M again.
You can try this $625 + shipping instock atm lol
http://canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100/
Get Bell version if you need lte. Get N7100 if you want better roms.
I got N7100 for the better roms and mods. All data plans suck in Canada. Too small for Lte.
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McLaren__F1 said:
You can try this $625 + shipping instock atm lol
http://canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100/
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Just ordered it from there and selected the Gray Model then I get an email after order saying there shipping me the White one... I emailed them back to change it I hope they don't send me white. I don't want white and I ordered a Black case to mach the Gray one from another company last night....
Ok, time to think ahead and seeing as I'm getting some good help here
I know about rooting and all that stuff (I rooted my last 2 phone) and I'm sure I'll figure that stuff out later...
but, I have never bought a "Unlocked" phone before dose that mean I can just place my old SIM from my SGS2 (that I will cut down with tin snips :good . in the N7100 and it will just work? or will I have to install a cretin ROM or Radio to make it work on my existing Bell Plan?
MaritimeGamer said:
Ok, time to think ahead and seeing as I'm getting some good help here
I know about rooting and all that stuff (I rooted my last 2 phone) and I'm sure I'll figure that stuff out later...
but, I have never bought a "Unlocked" phone before dose that mean I can just place my old SIM from my SGS2 (that I will cut down with tin snips :good . in the N7100 and it will just work? or will I have to install a cretin ROM or Radio to make it work on my existing Bell Plan?
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Yes u can just take out your old SIM card from SGS2, just make sure its MicroSim. No need to install any special ROM/Radio
So... I received the phone today from canadagsm.ca and not only is it the wrong model it's the SGH-i317M (I ordered the N7100) and on top of that it's was USED! It still had some ones old SIM in it... So I'm sending it back, there paying for shipping back (we will see if that happens...) And they said they will send me the right phone "IF" they have it. other wise they will give me a refund. I think I should just get a refund ether way I don't trust them at all now, and I would recommend no one buys from them. I see other people in the internet saying they got used phones from them too.
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So... I received the phone today from canadagsm.ca and not only is it the wrong model it's the SGH-i317M (I ordered the N7100) and on top of that it's was USED! It still had some ones old SIM in it... So I'm sending it back, there paying for shipping back (we will see if that happens...) And they said they will send me the right phone "IF" they have it. other wise they will give me a refund. I think I should just get a refund ether way I don't trust them at all now, and I would recommend no one buys from them. I see other people in the internet saying they got used phones from them too.
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Wow, sorry i recommend you that site:crying:
Hope, you get it sorted out ASAP.
McLaren__F1 said:
Wow, sorry i recommend you that site:crying:
Hope, you get it sorted out ASAP.
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It's not you fault I should have gone with my Gut and not my Heart. My Gut said "This company looks sketchy" and my heart just wanted the phone.
I have now called them 3+ times in the past 9 hours and it is always the same lady on the phone and she always sounds frantic. Like her world is crashing around her (witch it will be if I don't get 100% of my money back..) she keeps saying she will email me a shipping label but it has been over 8 hours and still nothing...
If I had to guess I would bet that this company is actually a Cell Booth in a Mall and they are selling refurbished phones as new ones (and for the same price as new ones!) and are also doing online internet sales too.
Looks like I'll be waiting a lot longer for my phone now then I wanted :crying:
They sent me a return shipping label! Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: I get my money back. I still don't trust them...
I see Newegg.ca got the N7100 back in, I just ordered one from them. I have ordered many times from Newegg and they have always been good and safe.
If you are in lte area, i317 definitely worth for speed.
But Samsung canada sucks over updates.
Not even multiwindow update has been released.
If you are not in Lte area, N7100 is best option, considering battery life and on time updates.
Note 2 rocks.
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MaritimeGamer said:
They sent me a return shipping label! Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: I get my money back. I still don't trust them...
I see Newegg.ca got the N7100 back in, I just ordered one from them. I have ordered many times from Newegg and they have always been good and safe.
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Wow, can't believe they did that to you! Must be agonizing!
And now they sent you a return shipping label - I hope you do get your money back!!!!
Scary
I got my n7100 from expansys.ca and use it on the Virgin Mobile network (Bell). To be honest, I don't care for lte as data plans are so small and I consume over 60gb of data per month on my phone, so the advantages of s faster Internet are hampered by a small bandwidth allowance.
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I shiped out my Phone on Monday. They received it on Wednesday and Paypal sent me an Email saying there is a Pending Refund from them for the FULL amount! I have to wait till next Friday to make sure I get the money, but it's looking really good so far! Thank goodness, that is a lot of money to be out, the wife would kill me. :crying:
I got my N7100 from Newegg yesterday and it is awesome! Thanks you Newegg for not trying to scamming me!
I cut down my BELL Sim Card with tin-snips and a box cutter, put it in and everything worked! Things are really starting to look up. I also got the update for dual screen witch the Canadian phones don't even have yet.
I never rooted it yet. (no need to where everything worked) but there are some things I don't like, that rooting might change so I might in the not to far future.
I'd like to thanks everyone for there help. I'm sure you'll hear from me soon enough with more questions.