[Q] Question on what Note 2 to Buy for Bell Canada - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have done some forum reading and have learned a lot from it (I think...) but I still have some remaining questions seeing as some of the posts are old and I'm sure things have changed by now.
Some things I have learned, correct me if I'm wrong.
SGH-i317M:
- Model provided by Bell
- LTE
- Up to 75Mb - 150mb Depending on towers
N7105:
- LTE
- Uses more battery in LTE mode
- Up to 75Mb - 150mb Depending on towers
N7100:
- NOT LTE
- Up to 21Mb to 45Mb Depending on towers
The thing is I live in Fredericton NB Canada and after looking over the Bell Tower Map there are no towers around me that are faster then a 21Mb to 45Mb. and knowing Bell it will be years before there is any here... With that in mind I have come to an unfortunate conclusion that LTE would be useless to me at this time. So I'm thinking of get a N7100. (correct me if I'm making the wrong choice)
The question I have about the N7100 are:
- Will it work with Bell Canada?
- Will it have better Battery life because it doesn't have LTE?
- Any one know where to buy one in Canada?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

No Canadian Note 2 users out there?
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Yes N7100 will work for Canada. As for battery life note 2 already has a big mah capacity. I'm using N7100 with Rogers right now. I got mines locally so prices will vary. But should be in the $600 range
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I just went to buy my N7100 at Newegg.ca and now there sold out... They had some yesterday there gos that idea... :crying:
Ok, Enough Crying. What is the current story on SGH-i317M?
For some reason Rogers sell it for $650 but Bell if $730 for the same phone.. What the hell is up with that?
So looks like I'll have to buy the Rogers one, I assume it can be rooted to work on the Bell Network?
What has the ROM action been like as of late for the "SGH-i317M"? I know in older post people where saying there was not much support, is that still the same?

http://www.expansys.ca/samsung-gala...tphone-16gb-gray-unlocked-850-1900-3g-236052/ (It says $675 on front page but its $650 + shipping when u add to cart)
No idea why Bell has a higher price one. Just unlock the phone and it can be used with any of the carriers.

Was just about to order that one from expansys.ca then I seen it is out of stock looks like I'm back to the SGH-i317M again.

You can try this $625 + shipping instock atm lol
http://canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100/

Get Bell version if you need lte. Get N7100 if you want better roms.
I got N7100 for the better roms and mods. All data plans suck in Canada. Too small for Lte.
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McLaren__F1 said:
You can try this $625 + shipping instock atm lol
http://canadagsm.ca/SAMSUNG/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-N7100/
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Just ordered it from there and selected the Gray Model then I get an email after order saying there shipping me the White one... I emailed them back to change it I hope they don't send me white. I don't want white and I ordered a Black case to mach the Gray one from another company last night....

Ok, time to think ahead and seeing as I'm getting some good help here
I know about rooting and all that stuff (I rooted my last 2 phone) and I'm sure I'll figure that stuff out later...
but, I have never bought a "Unlocked" phone before dose that mean I can just place my old SIM from my SGS2 (that I will cut down with tin snips :good . in the N7100 and it will just work? or will I have to install a cretin ROM or Radio to make it work on my existing Bell Plan?

MaritimeGamer said:
Ok, time to think ahead and seeing as I'm getting some good help here
I know about rooting and all that stuff (I rooted my last 2 phone) and I'm sure I'll figure that stuff out later...
but, I have never bought a "Unlocked" phone before dose that mean I can just place my old SIM from my SGS2 (that I will cut down with tin snips :good . in the N7100 and it will just work? or will I have to install a cretin ROM or Radio to make it work on my existing Bell Plan?
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Yes u can just take out your old SIM card from SGS2, just make sure its MicroSim. No need to install any special ROM/Radio

So... I received the phone today from canadagsm.ca and not only is it the wrong model it's the SGH-i317M (I ordered the N7100) and on top of that it's was USED! It still had some ones old SIM in it... So I'm sending it back, there paying for shipping back (we will see if that happens...) And they said they will send me the right phone "IF" they have it. other wise they will give me a refund. I think I should just get a refund ether way I don't trust them at all now, and I would recommend no one buys from them. I see other people in the internet saying they got used phones from them too.

MaritimeGamer said:
So... I received the phone today from canadagsm.ca and not only is it the wrong model it's the SGH-i317M (I ordered the N7100) and on top of that it's was USED! It still had some ones old SIM in it... So I'm sending it back, there paying for shipping back (we will see if that happens...) And they said they will send me the right phone "IF" they have it. other wise they will give me a refund. I think I should just get a refund ether way I don't trust them at all now, and I would recommend no one buys from them. I see other people in the internet saying they got used phones from them too.
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Wow, sorry i recommend you that site:crying:
Hope, you get it sorted out ASAP.

McLaren__F1 said:
Wow, sorry i recommend you that site:crying:
Hope, you get it sorted out ASAP.
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It's not you fault I should have gone with my Gut and not my Heart. My Gut said "This company looks sketchy" and my heart just wanted the phone.
I have now called them 3+ times in the past 9 hours and it is always the same lady on the phone and she always sounds frantic. Like her world is crashing around her (witch it will be if I don't get 100% of my money back..) she keeps saying she will email me a shipping label but it has been over 8 hours and still nothing...
If I had to guess I would bet that this company is actually a Cell Booth in a Mall and they are selling refurbished phones as new ones (and for the same price as new ones!) and are also doing online internet sales too.
Looks like I'll be waiting a lot longer for my phone now then I wanted :crying:

They sent me a return shipping label! Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: I get my money back. I still don't trust them...
I see Newegg.ca got the N7100 back in, I just ordered one from them. I have ordered many times from Newegg and they have always been good and safe.

If you are in lte area, i317 definitely worth for speed.
But Samsung canada sucks over updates.
Not even multiwindow update has been released.
If you are not in Lte area, N7100 is best option, considering battery life and on time updates.
Note 2 rocks.
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MaritimeGamer said:
They sent me a return shipping label! Fingers crossed :fingers-crossed: I get my money back. I still don't trust them...
I see Newegg.ca got the N7100 back in, I just ordered one from them. I have ordered many times from Newegg and they have always been good and safe.
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Wow, can't believe they did that to you! Must be agonizing!
And now they sent you a return shipping label - I hope you do get your money back!!!!
Scary

I got my n7100 from expansys.ca and use it on the Virgin Mobile network (Bell). To be honest, I don't care for lte as data plans are so small and I consume over 60gb of data per month on my phone, so the advantages of s faster Internet are hampered by a small bandwidth allowance.
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I shiped out my Phone on Monday. They received it on Wednesday and Paypal sent me an Email saying there is a Pending Refund from them for the FULL amount! I have to wait till next Friday to make sure I get the money, but it's looking really good so far! Thank goodness, that is a lot of money to be out, the wife would kill me. :crying:

I got my N7100 from Newegg yesterday and it is awesome! Thanks you Newegg for not trying to scamming me!
I cut down my BELL Sim Card with tin-snips and a box cutter, put it in and everything worked! Things are really starting to look up. I also got the update for dual screen witch the Canadian phones don't even have yet.
I never rooted it yet. (no need to where everything worked) but there are some things I don't like, that rooting might change so I might in the not to far future.
I'd like to thanks everyone for there help. I'm sure you'll hear from me soon enough with more questions.

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Bought it......Sold it. $475 For those still on the fence re N7100 vs SGHi717 .

I should have listened to my instincts and went of the N7100. I really wanted to like the ATT version. I got the device. immediately rooted it and flashed the CleanLite Rom. There were a couple things I missed too much and the additional $30 a month was not worth it since we do not have LTE and if we did the speeds are really only realized when downloading ir uploading huge files. Regular browsing is still website dependent,
However the phone is always seeking LTE. No way to turn it off. Having been on Mediat Net UL data was nice but I never used more than 700mb and that was when I was steaming TuneIn radio just to try it out. (I was listening to the same shows we have locally.at different times) I am a talk radio junkie. I love all the gad fests, from Kim Komand to Rush Limbaugh. I am plugged in all day at work.
I need the FM Radio and I did not want to pay $15 more a month for it and have to get a 3GB plan.Not to mention the battery use for radio is far less than streaming wifi or carrier data. So I called ATT and Provisioned my International Note 1 for Smartphone data ( I had to convince them I had a smart phone because you cannot have two dumb phones on a family share plan and the wife International SGS II i9100 shows up as a dumb phone to get the Family Shared 1GB plan. Now we have messaging as well which we did not have and unlimited calling which we did not have. and I will buy an N7100 when the prices drop below $600. Funny all these years I was under the radar. they "discovered " my Note a a smart phone and I always had to call to switch it back to MediNet. Now I had to convince them it was a smart phone...Funny how things work.
The international development is very much further as well. although a few "ported" ROMs are showing up on this side of things.
Love the form factor of the Note 2 and it was very fast. The additional processing and RAM were clearly noticeable.
S Pen much better. Notification LED nice. There is a reason to upgrade for sure. In my case the N7100 is the better choice.Warranties mean little to me since I root the devices out of the box,
I posted this for those who are on the fence and may have similar needs.
Thanks for the post, man. I'm fighting myself over whether I want to go grab a Note II today (been thinking about it non-stop all weekend). Heck, I was cussing when I saw your post in the MP and I missed out! I'd have bought it in a heartbeat (and saved a couple of hundred $$$ in the process).
I've already got the AT&T GSIII, so I'm not sure how much of an upgrade the Note II would be for me. I mean, I KNOW it would be an upgrade in some areas, but I'm just trying to figure out if it warrants the $$$ (and the money isn't a problem for me...I'm just debating myself as I always do on large purchases). I'd be buying off-contract (as I did with the SIII), so it's not a small amount of money.
I usually get my phones, the off-contract ones at least, from Best Buy because of their generous 30-day return window and their price matching. I guess I could always grab a Note II and give it a go for a couple of weeks. Then I'll know for sure whether it's a worthy upgrade or not and if not, I can always return it without a restocking fee.
Glad to see you got things figured out. Sorry I missed out on buying your Note II, but glad to see you got it sold quickly! :good:
KentuckyHouse said:
Thanks for the post, man. I'm fighting myself over whether I want to go grab a Note II today (been thinking about it non-stop all weekend). Heck, I was cussing when I saw your post in the MP and I missed out! I'd have bought it in a heartbeat (and saved a couple of hundred $$$ in the process).
I've already got the AT&T GSIII, so I'm not sure how much of an upgrade the Note II would be for me. I mean, I KNOW it would be an upgrade in some areas, but I'm just trying to figure out if it warrants the $$$ (and the money isn't a problem for me...I'm just debating myself as I always do on large purchases). I'd be buying off-contract (as I did with the SIII), so it's not a small amount of money.
I usually get my phones, the off-contract ones at least, from Best Buy because of their generous 30-day return window and their price matching. I guess I could always grab a Note II and give it a go for a couple of weeks. Then I'll know for sure whether it's a worthy upgrade or not and if not, I can always return it without a restocking fee.
Glad to see you got things figured out. Sorry I missed out on buying your Note II, but glad to see you got it sold quickly! :good:
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We have pretty good LTE coverage here...and I do use it..and I also had my time with 3 of the G3's...when they worked that is..
Looking at things objectively...is the Note 2 a upgrade worthy enough to leave the G3...IMHO...you bet it is especially if you like big screens...and can use the S-pen...
If those 2 things aren't enough to sway you...then maybe you should wait for the G 4 to come out...I would never go back to a G3 after using this one...to me it's leaps and bounds above them and custom roms will come...hell the sys dump for the ATT version just happened on the 6th of this month...so...IMHO...go get one and use it for a while...at least you will have a time with it to see what all the hubbub is about... and since they are still in short supply in many places...I don't think you will have any issue selling it if you don't like it..
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I don't regret leaving my gs3 one bit. You either want a bigger screen or you don't and the internals are certainly a bump up. Getting the note 2 was a little intimidating now I don't think I could go back to the gs3.
about att and international note 2 choices, basically the question is: LTE & warranty or lots more custom rom
I choose att version only because i like LTE. and i am sure the att version will have its asop, cm 10/11, miui, and some kernel.
vista1984 said:
about att and international note 2 choices, basically the question is: LTE & warranty or lots more custom rom
I choose att version only because i like LTE. and i am sure the att version will have its asop, cm 10/11, miui, and some kernel.
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The problem with ASOP with the Notes is the S pen apps don't always work as they are Samsung apps and Samsung has been hoarding their drivers as well. The FM Radio did not work in Cyanogen. Needed a $10 app to make it work Spirit UL I think it was. I like the Samsung stuff well enough and eliminate the Social apps so I stick with the Stock Samsung ROMS. Especially since I am not a flashaholic and prefer to stick with a good ROM that only gets updated when there are major updates.
OP;us I am running 4..1.2 now and the ATT Note was a step back as far as Multiview etc went. Roms will be coming but like with the Captivate most of the good stuff will be ported from the N7100 developers
I dont get it. You bought it and sold it. So you save 30 a month? Did you buy it out right or sign contract. Contract arent you IN contract so you pay anyway? Full price?
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carhigh said:
I dont get it. You bought it and sold it. So you save 30 a month? Did you buy it out right or sign contract. Contract arent you IN contract so you pay anyway? Full price?
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I bought it for $239 an signed a contract for two years I have been with ATT since Wireless began. I don;t plan on changing Carriers. We have had two upgrades for the past four years. I burned one to try the ATT version. Since I rooted it I don't feel right bringing it back and sold it instead made a few dollars toward the N7100 With the sale iof My Note either way it was going to cost me $300 to buy the N7100. Now it will be "free" or at most $100 more. I will use my wife's upgrade next year.
I buy her used International phones. She loves the SGS II i9100 and will be using that until it fails. Then I will find her a well used international SIII to keep her on the $30 non smartphone plan.
We pay $115 a month for two phones with UL everything except for the 1GB data Same as we were paying for two mediaNEt UL data phones with no messaging and 700 minutes. I don;t use a lot of carrier data with the FM radio especially.
Disregard me please. Im totally lost even more now. Att has a 1gb plan? I didnt know
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Thanks for the info
For me, its an easy choice. LTE. I live about 30 miles from AT&T headquarters, so LTE speed is amazing. As far as custom rom's go. I create my own stuff, so that does not concern me the slightest.
CM will come. Ive already setup the device tree, I just need to figure out the RIL stuff and defconfig in the kernel, to enable to qualcomm modem.
carhigh said:
Disregard me please. Im totally lost even more now. Att has a 1gb plan? I didnt know
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Yeah they have a family share plan with UL talk and messaging with 1 GB data shared. One smart phone and one dumb phone would be $115 a month. They charge $40 plus $30 for the "dumb" phone and $45 for the smart phone. If my wife were to get an ATT smart phone the bill would go up nearly $200 a year. $15 more a month Still sharing 1GB. Not worth it. I would go back to MediNet and two "dumb" phones. We have a couple old dumb phones we stick the SIM cards in when calling ATT. Except now I have declared a smart phone to get UL talk and messaging.
With 4GB shared the bill would be $15 more Her phone would Still be $30 the plan would go to $70 and my phone would drop to $40 Basically I would get 3GB more for another $25 a month. I would rather pay the extra $15 for 2GB if i should use over 1GB. Without LTE there is no way I would be using 2GB.
LTE is great. but for basic web browsing 4G is fine. Downloading huge ROM files would be nice at home with 30MPS LOL I would use the Carrier before the cable internet. But I don;t want to become dependent on high carrier speeds. Its like the carriers are drug dealers. they get you hooked then you pay pay pay.....
antiochasylum said:
Thanks for the info
For me, its an easy choice. LTE. I live about 30 miles from AT&T headquarters, so LTE speed is amazing. As far as custom rom's go. I create my own stuff, so that does not concern me the slightest.
CM will come. Ive already setup the device tree, I just need to figure out the RIL stuff and defconfig in the kernel, to enable to qualcomm modem.
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this is the best news i heard today

deal to good to be true?

ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
I would be EXTREMELY careful buying off CL expecially at low prices. I've been hearing and reading about people getting screwed. One guy had his phone for 3 months before it got locked down. Just have to use your best judgement.
Good luck
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I would be EXTREMELY careful buying off CL expecially at low prices. I've been hearing and reading about people getting screwed. One guy had his phone for 3 months before it got locked down. Just have to use your best judgement.
Good luck
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ya im thinking i will not be doing ebay or craigslist. so it sounds like im stuck with amazon, tmobile, and overstock. any other sites?
also i think i have decided to go ahead and either buy the sony lt28h or the nexus 4. now to make my decision...
kdm212 said:
also i think i have decided to go ahead and either buy the sony lt28h or the nexus 4. now to make my decision...
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I owned the Nexus 4 and returned it for the N2. Screen was kind of washed out, battery life was not great. The glass back always worried me. Non replaceable battery as over time batteries go bad. Very fast, smooth, 4.2 is nice. No Facebook sync. Photosphere is neat but a huge battery killer. Great price from play store. But, thats if you can get one.
N2 is ... worth every penny.
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ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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The easiest way to take care of this is to simply meet him at the T-Mobile store to verify the transaction. Tis what we did for our second note we found on CL. Working like a champ!
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The easiest way to take care of this is to simply meet him at the T-Mobile store to verify the transaction. Tis what we did for our second note we found on CL. Working like a champ!
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i did ask him for the imei. he did send it to me and even told me that he would give me the receipt. however, i have been told that even though its clean now it doesnt stop him from making a call as soon as i walk out the door.
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i did ask him for the imei. he did send it to me and even told me that he would give me the receipt. however, i have been told that even though its clean now it doesnt stop him from making a call as soon as i walk out the door.
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Get it in writing. Make a "bill of sale" with the IMEI and signatures, yours, the sellers, and possibly if you go to a T-Mobile store ask if one of the workers can sign it also and get a pic or video holding the "bill of sale"? I know it might seem kinda weird but, you can never be too careful, these phones are pretty new and pretty expensive still, that is a lot of money to risk...
Are you by any chance on TMo classic plan? I have 3 lines on my plan and the closest one eligible for an upgrade is still 11 months away. I sold my S3 and ready and willing to add some money to buy Note 2 full price, either from TMo or ebay. But i took a chance and call TMo for an early upgrade, and they give it to me for the same price as upgrade. Of course with my luck, the day after I ordered, Cyber monday deal cut the price significantly, and they wont adjust the price for me but still i got it cheaper than my S3 sold price :victory:
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Get it in writing. Make a "bill of sale" with the IMEI and signatures, yours, the sellers, and possibly if you go to a T-Mobile store ask if one of the workers can sign it also and get a pic or video holding the "bill of sale"? I know it might seem kinda weird but, you can never be too careful, these phones are pretty new and pretty expensive still, that is a lot of money to risk...
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That will do no good if he calls it in as stolen or had the value plan and quits paying on it. If he paid full price for the phone, that's the only somewhat safest way it would not get locked (unless called in as stolen)
I just don't want to see someone else get scammed. May be legit but you can never be 100% sure off CL unfortunately.
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That will do no good if he calls it in as stolen or had the value plan and quits paying on it. If he paid full price for the phone, that's the only somewhat safest way it would not get locked (unless called in as stolen)
I just don't want to see someone else get scammed. May be legit but you can never be 100% sure off CL unfortunately.
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it wil make a difference in terms of getting your money back...if he does call it in as stolen you have proof of sale so its obviously NOT stolen...and if he stops making payments you can get a refund..you would have to hand over your phone but at least you get your money back
i would just make sure that the document you create states that he phone is either completely paid for or that it states that the seller will continue to make payments until it is paid off in full
someone else posted the same question and i also gave him the same advice...as an experienced phone seller/buyer of ebay and CL i would say that the extra $50-100 that you save isnt worth the headache and paranoia that comes with the savings
if you are going to the tmobile store you could probably even ask the clerk to give you the info on how the phone was purchased and if it was paid off...maybe even ask him how long the account has been active and if the guy has a good track record (the seller will be standing there so its not like you are asking for confidential info without his knowledge)
in my opinion...the only way i would buy a phone that is cheaper than the average asking price is if the seller really did convince me that it was legit (has a legit reason for selling the phone where the price that he sells it for isnt his main focus - ie. he received it as a gift and making $500 on a quick sale is enough for him he doesnt care to squeeze the extra $50 and/or if the seller had a receipt for the phone)..if i have an uneasy feeling i would just pass.always go with your gut
kdm212 said:
ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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If I were you, I would go to TMO and see what they can do for you about getting the phone directly from them. I was in the same situation as you were about a week ago....wanting the Note II so badly, but had already used my upgrade a couple of months ago for the HTC One S. I basically walked into my closest TMO store and asked the rep what they could do to get me the Note without having to pay full price.
In the end, they were able to get it for me for $200...after rebate, but I had to pay $150 migration fee (Originally $300). I then sold my HTC One S on eBay for $300. So how you look at it, I only paid $50 for the Note II!
Trust me, go into TMO and talk to them....that is one thing I like about them over the other carriers is their customer service is better, not awesome, but better than ATT & Verizon.
kdm212 said:
ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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Usually if you haveto ask this question its a bad idea.
its just the cheapskate in you trying to justify the purchase
here are your options
1) buy the craigslist note 2, worry about everything under the sun (is it stolen, does it WORK, are they gonna shut it down etc.) and take a chance of getting ripped one way or the other
2) dont be a cheapskate, save another 189$ dont have to worry about anything, ANYTHING!
i appreciate ALL of the feedback! at the end of the day the phone would have costed $450 plus 3.5 hours of driving round trip and probably $30 in gas. so for a total of $480 i just think ill save the few extra bucks and buy it from the store. i really do appreciate it.
just need to decide on a phone. n4, n2, s3, or the sony lt28h.
gotta admit $450 is a hell of a deal though lol.
kdm212 said:
i appreciate ALL of the feedback! at the end of the day the phone would have costed $450 plus 3.5 hours of driving round trip and probably $30 in gas. so for a total of $480 i just think ill save the few extra bucks and buy it from the store. i really do appreciate it.
just need to decide on a phone. n4, n2, s3, or the sony lt28h.
gotta admit $450 is a hell of a deal though lol.
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NOTE 2 for sure...you're in the note 2 forum so that will be the dominant answer.
but seriously the note 2 has been the best phone i have ever owned or used...and i am a phone fanatic...once you use it for a week you can't go back to smaller ones...whenever i see other phones now they look like toys...i remember a few weeks ago (before i bought the note 2 and had my nexus) i thought my sisters S3 was huge...now when i hold that phone in my hands it looks really small and dull
i definitely wouldnt put the s3 in this class of phones (unless its the international one)...i would only go with the n4 is your MAIN focus is on development and/or this phone is too large for your liking

S4's selling like hot cakes!

I can't seem to get my hands on one yet everywhere I went today had said they were sold out already. Hopefully this phone beats the sales of every other smart phone on the market!
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I can't seem to get my hands on one yet everywhere I went today had said they were sold out already. Hopefully this phone beats the sales of every other smart phone on the market!
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i actually have a spare im trying to get rid of. Ill sell it to u for 750. 16Gb white Tmobile
nismo35 said:
i actually have a spare im trying to get rid of. Ill sell it to u for 750. 16Gb white Tmobile
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Lol no thanks I'll wait till it becomes available. That's 120 dollars more than retail
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Lol no thanks I'll wait till it becomes available. That's 120 dollars more than retail
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This guy is wild lmao
I usually sell my phones for 100$ off, but this baby is hot!
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Lol no thanks I'll wait till it becomes available. That's 120 dollars more than retail
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i have sales tax and shpping in the state of WA. so i paid 710. and im calculating shipping to you as part of it. So i think my 750 is a fare price
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i have sales tax and shpping in the state of WA. so i paid 710. and im calculating shipping to you as part of it. So i think my 750 is a fare price
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Still too much. Saw on NY craiglist for 650
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bikrame said:
Still too much. Saw on NY craiglist for 650
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I understand, just dont want to make it seams like im trying to rip someone off
since 9100, samsung 's device getting better day by day.
i love 9300 very much before.and
now i am with s4
So it's safe to say, I can sell my s4 for 500..
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One thing is for certain...they are not selling like hotcakes, simply because the device is only available through customer care, online, or at a very few select corporate retail stores and the occasional Costco etc. The vast majority of none corporate stores do not have them in stock yet. The 15th...maybe...who knows for sure. Perfect example is the VERY busy T-Mobile store down the road from me (Portland, OR), does not even have the One yet, let alone the GS4. The kicker is they don't even know for sure when either phone will come to their non corporate store. A very large percentage of Tmo's base gets their phones through these 3rd party Tmo stores....and they are still in the dark. It really has been a colossal blunder of a launch for both phones.
Uncarrier is great...but they need to focus on strategy and having some sort of nationwide information network for their employees, where all Tmo branded retailers are able to give the exact same response...to someone from Portland, Maine to Portland, Oregon.
Glad I got mine through customer care with next day air... I must give Tmo credit, as that went very smoothly.
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I agree. Hopefully they really sell good come the 15th
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i got mine on the 2nd may
dannyyyyy said:
Lol no thanks I'll wait till it becomes available. That's 120 dollars more than retail
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I purchased my SGIV on-line first day through t-mobile and got it the next day.. Couldn't believe how fast that was!
Not sure why your having problems ordering..
tvos
While you wait maybe get a case and (glass) screen protector too. This thing is so fragile, you don't even want to risk a minute playing hot potato with it. I've already had several close encounters, but luckily my Spigen glass and case are here. Looks great with it!
Just picked up my first Android device last night. Black S4. T-Mobile made the process pretty easy. In and out in 20 minutes. I come from a jailbroken iPhone 4, been using iPhone since the 3GS came out. Got super bored of it and hated the tiny screen. So now I'm off my family's AT&T plan and boy HSPA+ > 3G. Several people in the store were buying the S4 and they had plenty in stock.
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I can't seem to get my hands on one yet everywhere I went today had said they were sold out already. Hopefully this phone beats the sales of every other smart phone on the market!
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I got lucky and ordered mine online the day they came out. It was actually a real hassle since I was a new customer and they online order bit didn't work and I ended up having to call them to finish the order and then they sent me a pre-pay SIM card instead of a post-pay SIM card which eventually had me wind up at a T-Mobile store to fix all of their mistakes. Hope you get yours soon and with less hassle than me.
yes, samsung's device getting better and better day by day, just since i9000
Hoggles said:
One thing is for certain...they are not selling like hotcakes, simply because the device is only available through customer care, online, or at a very few select corporate retail stores and the occasional Costco etc. The vast majority of none corporate stores do not have them in stock yet. The 15th...maybe...who knows for sure. Perfect example is the VERY busy T-Mobile store down the road from me (Portland, OR), does not even have the One yet, let alone the GS4. The kicker is they don't even know for sure when either phone will come to their non corporate store. A very large percentage of Tmo's base gets their phones through these 3rd party Tmo stores....and they are still in the dark. It really has been a colossal blunder of a launch for both phones.
Uncarrier is great...but they need to focus on strategy and having some sort of nationwide information network for their employees, where all Tmo branded retailers are able to give the exact same response...to someone from Portland, Maine to Portland, Oregon.
Glad I got mine through customer care with next day air... I must give Tmo credit, as that went very smoothly.
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Surprised PDX wasn't carrying at that time, on the 8th almost all the Beaverton/Hillsboro stores were selling them. The store in Cedar Hills started selling them the night of the 7th because they just had them sitting there.
But glad you got yours timely after ordering with Customer Care.
tvos said:
I purchased my SGIV on-line first day through t-mobile and got it the next day.. Couldn't believe how fast that was!
Not sure why your having problems ordering..
tvos
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I've had mines since sunday lol how are you enjoying yours?

T-Mobile REALLY wants your S3 back!

I just went to T-Mobile's trade in program to see what I would get for my GS3. The T999 fetches a pretty penny - 225 bucks. On top of that, the "new" T999L only gets 190 and the Galaxy Note 2 gets 265. A 64GB iPhone 5 is 269.99 for comparison.
Looks like T-Mobile wants to buy back as many T999s as possible, probably anticipating an uptick in exchanges on the heels of the LTE model launching.
Interestingly enough, this is much better than their father's day trade-in deal for the iPhone since it applies to any phone. Something I'm thinking about but I don't have the cash to pay the down payment up front and I'm pretty sure you still have to pay up front if you go to the store as well (although I'm not sure, I haven't called).
Just thought I would post this since this is even more than what HTC was offering on their competitor trade-up offer!
http://www.t-mobile.com/DeviceRecovery/cell-phone-trade-in.aspx
EtherealRemnant said:
I just went to T-Mobile's trade in program to see what I would get for my GS3. The T999 fetches a pretty penny - 225 bucks. On top of that, the "new" T999L only gets 190 and the Galaxy Note 2 gets 265. A 64GB iPhone 5 is 269.99 for comparison.
Looks like T-Mobile wants to buy back as many T999s as possible, probably anticipating an uptick in exchanges on the heels of the LTE model launching.
Interestingly enough, this is much better than their father's day trade-in deal for the iPhone since it applies to any phone. Something I'm thinking about but I don't have the cash to pay the down payment up front and I'm pretty sure you still have to pay up front if you go to the store as well (although I'm not sure, I haven't called).
Just thought I would post this since this is even more than what HTC was offering on their competitor trade-up offer!
http://www.t-mobile.com/DeviceRecovery/cell-phone-trade-in.aspx
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You have to have the down payment as the trade in credit can take weeks to be processed. I was offered 225 as well. But I ended up selling mine while it was still hot for enough to out down for a note 2 for the wife and n4 for me. Got tired of the Samsung game.
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monkeypaws said:
You have to have the down payment as the trade in credit can take weeks to be processed. I was offered 225 as well. But I ended up selling mine while it was still hot for enough to out down for a note 2 for the wife and n4 for me. Got tired of the Samsung game.
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why would I give them an S3 that I can sell on ebay for $340?
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why would I give them an S3 that I can sell on ebay for $340?
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Exactly.
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That sucks... The GS4 is going on for $99 down.. With this trade in would be nice to use that as credit of the down and the rest for the bill
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why would I give them an S3 that I can sell on ebay for $340?
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Exactly.
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I didn't realize they were still selling that high post-S4 and One release... That's kind of shocking if they're still selling that high, might consider putting mine on Craigslist and see if I can get 3 or 4 for it if that's the case!
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That sucks... The GS4 is going on for $99 down.. With this trade in would be nice to use that as credit of the down and the rest for the bill
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Yeah that was my idea too. Seems kind of silly they can't just do a quick in-store inspection and give you your credit. All they have to do is power it up, make sure its not rooted, plug it into a USB charger, and check for damage. Wouldn't take more than 5 minutes total and would dramatically increase sales for T-Mobile if everyone knew they could trade in their phone - T-Mobile still makes a profit, gets new customers and upgrades old ones, and the best part is that it moves them closer to having everyone on LTE so HSPA can be phased out sooner or left for customers that don't care about their network speed.
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That's all I saw of your post.
Just looked on eBay at recently sold phones... Average seems to be around 250 but mine is in MINT condition - hell one with a cracked screen sold for 250... The Titanium Grey is selling higher than the others (probably because its the rarest filtering by listing) which is what I happen to have. Prices are all over the place on Craigslist.
I've had eBay for years but never sold anything on there. Too bad my PayPal account got frozen or I'd consider it.
Still wish T-Mobile would just inspect it in the store though, much less of a hassle. lol. I suppose I can call them and see if they can just bill the phone to the account - we've had them for forever.
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Just looked on eBay at recently sold phones... Average seems to be around 250 but mine is in MINT condition - hell one with a cracked screen sold for 250... The Titanium Grey is selling higher than the others (probably because its the rarest filtering by listing) which is what I happen to have. Prices are all over the place on Craigslist.
I've had eBay for years but never sold anything on there. Too bad my PayPal account got frozen or I'd consider it.
Still wish T-Mobile would just inspect it in the store though, much less of a hassle. lol. I suppose I can call them and see if they can just bill the phone to the account - we've had them for forever.
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I had the same problem also. I had my sgs3 on cl for 2 weeks. No takers except for scammers. Just last year is get a couple hits within the first couple hours. Seems like no one can afford to fork out 350 . I ended up selling for 240. Just a little over what Tmobile offered me
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I had the same problem also. I had my sgs3 on cl for 2 weeks. No takers except for scammers. Just last year is get a couple hits within the first couple hours. Seems like no one can afford to fork out 350 . I ended up selling for 240. Just a little over what Tmobile offered me
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If I had a regular SIM card I would just use my Samsung Captivate for a little bit while I sold my SGS3 (its really not a bad phone, hell LiquidSmooth 2.6 is even out for that old thing and I'm in a refarmed market to boot so I wouldn't lose 3G) but I don't so yeah.
It doesn't surprise me that people aren't biting on Craigslist. Although here in Denver that's how most people buy and sell things online, hardly anyone I know uses eBay for anything other than super rare stuff so who knows.
I think I'll have to talk to my roommate about billing it to the account if T-Mobile will let us... I don't know though, my S3 still does everything I need it to and I don't have any real issues with it, I just want something new. LMAO.
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I had the same problem also. I had my sgs3 on cl for 2 weeks. No takers except for scammers. Just last year is get a couple hits within the first couple hours. Seems like no one can afford to fork out 350 . I ended up selling for 240. Just a little over what Tmobile offered me
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Have you checked Swappa. Here is the link. The recent sales are at the bottom $275 up. People are willing to pay more for some protection against blacklisted IMEI phones. Got my Note 2 there and had a reasonable experience.
http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-tmobile/us
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If I had a regular SIM card I would just use my Samsung Captivate for a little bit while I sold my SGS3 (its really not a bad phone, hell LiquidSmooth 2.6 is even out for that old thing and I'm in a refarmed market to boot so I wouldn't lose 3G) but I don't so yeah.
It doesn't surprise me that people aren't biting on Craigslist. Although here in Denver that's how most people buy and sell things online, hardly anyone I know uses eBay for anything other than super rare stuff so who knows.
I think I'll have to talk to my roommate about billing it to the account if T-Mobile will let us... I don't know though, my S3 still does everything I need it to and I don't have any real issues with it, I just want something new. LMAO.
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If you have an older sim for your other phone you should be able to reactivate it. I've done it online before, or you can call or go to a store and they can do it for you.
Anyone have any idea what theyd give for my s3 with a cracked screen? Works perfectly and you can't see the cracks while its on, but something tells me they wouldn't give the full $225!
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sfsilicon said:
Have you checked Swappa. Here is the link. The recent sales are at the bottom $275 up. People are willing to pay more for some protection against blacklisted IMEI phones. Got my Note 2 there and had a reasonable experience.
http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-tmobile/us
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I've never used Swappa before, might have to check it out. I was going to list my two Droid RAZR Maxx's there but never got around to it and found out that they're pretty much worth nothing even though they're both in mint condition.
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If you have an older sim for your other phone you should be able to reactivate it. I've done it online before, or you can call or go to a store and they can do it for you.
Anyone have any idea what theyd give for my s3 with a cracked screen? Works perfectly and you can't see the cracks while its on, but something tells me they wouldn't give the full $225!
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Unfortunately the Captivate is Samsung's Galaxy S I for at&t, I never had a full-size T-Mo SIM for it
They wouldn't give you 225 at T-Mobile but I saw one on eBay sell for 245... I would go to eBay and filter until you get your device and then select show sold only and see what they're selling for. Might surprise you.
EDIT: Damn frozen PayPal account - that's what Swappa uses for payment >_<
Any ways T-Mobile dropped that GS4 to $99 who cant afford $99? trade in your phone with tmobile and use it as credit to pay for the phone faster. I seen a lot of post of people saying that the s4 is not a big upgrade from the s3.. I played with one today at the store.. First time I played with an actual live show device. And I put my s3 next to it.. There is a huge different between these 2. If you see them side by side in person.. Now in pictures not so much
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Any ways T-Mobile dropped that GS4 to $99 who cant afford $99? trade in your phone with tmobile and use it as credit to pay for the phone faster. I seen a lot of post of people saying that the s4 is not a big upgrade from the s3.. I played with one today at the store.. First time I played with an actual live show device. And I put my s3 next to it.. There is a huge different between these 2. If you see them side by side in person.. Now in pictures not so much
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People on extremely fixed incomes can't afford 99 dollars. I'm fighting disability right now so I get 175 a month from the state of Colorado while I go through the long process with Social Security.
Oh and I fixed my PayPal account... I can't believe all I had to do was call and verify some information with them. If I had known that I would have done that back in October! So now I might just sell my GS3 and get an S4 or One. Torn between the two - don't like non-expandable storage but the One being able to run any ROM from at&t, T-Mo OR International is a HUGE plus to me.
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People on extremely fixed incomes can't afford 99 dollars. I'm fighting disability right now so I get 175 a month from the state of Colorado while I go through the long process with Social Security.
Oh and I fixed my PayPal account... I can't believe all I had to do was call and verify some information with them. If I had known that I would have done that back in October! So now I might just sell my GS3 and get an S4 or One. Torn between the two - don't like non-expandable storage but the One being able to run any ROM from at&t, T-Mo OR International is a HUGE plus to me.
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That GS4 is able to run any rom from any carrier in the states and even the international! Go to any carrier s4 forum and you will see... One of the reason I would trade my s3 for the s4 in a heart bit because of it.... And you know samsung is faster than htc in updating phones.. So if a new update comes to the international you can flash it on any carrier us s4.. Witch is pretty cool in my part..
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That GS4 is able to run any rom from any carrier in the states and even the international! Go to any carrier s4 forum and you will see... One of the reason I would trade my s3 for the s4 in a heart bit because of it.... And you know samsung is faster than htc in updating phones.. So if a new update comes to the international you can flash it on any carrier us s4.. Witch is pretty cool in my part..
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Okay well you just made my decision a ton easier, especially if the 99 down price point is T-Mobile's now standard pricing for the S4. I couldn't really see any other reason to get the One (I really like having an SD card and "Boom Sound" is nice but I found myself covering up the speakers anyway holding the phone in landscape) and with the 7500mAh Zero Lemon battery out for the S4, its kind of a no-brainer especially since it fixes the design flaw with the speaker on the S4 and shoots the sound out the sides.
I wasn't aware that you could flash any carrier ROM to the S4. Apparently that was just in the beginning of the launch then? Sweet!
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Okay well you just made my decision a ton easier, especially if the 99 down price point is T-Mobile's now standard pricing for the S4. I couldn't really see any other reason to get the One (I really like having an SD card and "Boom Sound" is nice but I found myself covering up the speakers anyway holding the phone in landscape) and with the 7500mAh Zero Lemon battery out for the S4, its kind of a no-brainer especially since it fixes the design flaw with the speaker on the S4 and shoots the sound out the sides.
I wasn't aware that you could flash any carrier ROM to the S4. Apparently that was just in the beginning of the launch then? Sweet!
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Yeah people with the s4 are flashing international roms like crazy out of the box... But remember dont flash a rom with the modem witch now days none comes with a modem hehehe.. I played with one today and I really liked it.. I think I may get it and not wait for the note 3.. Really I like the note 2 and that 5'5 screen is big enough.. I Kinda think about it if i want a note 2 but rumors says the that note 3 will be 6'' screen.. I really dont think I will like it that much..
As we on the S3 we can port any carrier rom to ours but not international.. And look how long they been having 4.2.x roms. and we dont have a leak yet.. Flashing roms from international like on the s4 is priceless lol.. I really dont know why XDA had to split these forums.. And not make one. Like on the HTC Sensation.. It was one forum for all Sensations worldwide.
Not to mention that Samsung is MUCH more dev friendly than HTC. Since the One series it just seemed to me that HTC was trying to become too much like the icrap. Plus No expandable storage, no removable battery, locked bootloaders, etc.... any one of these is a deal killer in my book.
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I just bought the 8 Core Version of the S4 last month then AT&T started to suck in this area so I switch to T-Mobile Paid my ETF of $150 unlimited everything for $70 paid the down payment of $300 for the T-Mobile Version of the S4. Okay so now I feel like I'm using a crappy version of the S4 if this makes sense I got it for the LTE service which is better even tho on the GT-I9500 I was getting 4G non LTE full bars with AT&T it was 1 - 0 Bars so which one is the better one between these two GT-I9500 or T-Mobile version? and if I do sell the GT-19500 how much would I get I bought it brand new from Newegg.com also had the Camera Failed problem but I loved it no Carrier bloatware & now I feel like I'll be last to the game with getting the updates from Samsung from moving to this one The Origins of the 8 Core S4 I had was from TTT it says lol any help at all?
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I just bought the 8 Core Version of the S4 last month then AT&T started to suck in this area so I switch to T-Mobile Paid my ETF of $150 unlimited everything for $70 paid the down payment of $300 for the T-Mobile Version of the S4. Okay so now I feel like I'm using a crappy version of the S4 if this makes sense I got it for the LTE service which is better even tho on the GT-I9500 I was getting 4G non LTE full bars with AT&T it was 1 - 0 Bars so which one is the better one between these two GT-I9500 or T-Mobile version? and if I do sell the GT-19500 how much would I get I bought it brand new from Newegg.com also had the Camera Failed problem but I loved it no Carrier bloatware & now I feel like I'll be last to the game with getting the updates from Samsung from moving to this one The Origins of the 8 Core S4 I had was from TTT it says lol any help at all?
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Yes.
Sell the GT-I9500 for whatever you can get and buy the TMo version if you want to stay on TMo.
Take your losses like a man and next time stop acting like a dog chasing a squirrel. Use a period once in a while.
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Yes.
Sell the GT-I9500 for whatever you can get and buy the TMo version if you want to stay on TMo.
Take your losses like a man and next time stop acting like a dog chasing a squirrel. Use a period once in a while.
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While your advice is correct about the T Mo version being a better option than the 9500 for the T Mobile network, that last part was a litthe harsh.
Come on, man. You were new to this stuff once too. The Op wasn't being nasty or anything. He's just trying to find a way to minimize the financial hit for making the switch. It's a rough economy. Nothing wrong with making sure you're being as economical as possible.
Skipjacks said:
While your advice is correct about the T Mo version being a better option than the 9500 for the T Mobile network, that last part was a litthe harsh.
Come on, man. You were new to this stuff once too. The Op wasn't being nasty or anything. He's just trying to find a way to minimize the financial hit for making the switch. It's a rough economy. Nothing wrong with making sure you're being as economical as possible.
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Harsh? sure. But at least you were able to read my advice and my criticism without your eyes bleeding...
No harsh taken I didn't think AT&T service was gonna go to **** when I bought it as the Fake 4G was pretty decent here so whatever I ended with the T-Mobile but since i'm young with no Credit I had to pay $310 down what can I get outta the 9500? it like brand new I can include a Otterbox Defender Case with no Screen protector on it as it made the screen quality look awful
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No harsh taken I didn't think AT&T service was gonna go to **** when I bought it as the Fake 4G was pretty decent here so whatever I ended with the T-Mobile but since i'm young with no Credit I had to pay $310 down what can I get outta the 9500? it like brand new I can include a Otterbox Defender Case with no Screen protector on it as it made the screen quality look awful
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At least $400. Probably get more on ebay
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At least $400. Probably get more on ebay
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I had the same problem as the OP.
I bought the octo-core version of the S4 (without doing research of course) and ended up getting the T-Mobile variant.
In total, I spend around $820 for both.
I ended up selling the octo-core version for $380 (I didn't want to deal with eBay or Craigslist) to some guy I met at the mall (He worked for Invisible Shield), lol.
But hey, at least now I have the T-Mobile variant with box and all accessories unused, complete invisible shield protection and a case.
But you can probably get around $400, yeah. Try Swappa or CellTraderOnline.
Thank's for the help and the links

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