I've been saying this for a while, Speech to Text is a feature of 2.1 and not a Nexus exclusive feature. The Desire's website (http://desirehtc.com/) pretty much confirms it on the "android page".
Android 2.1...
What's that all about then?
Launched in January 2010, and known in the trade as Eclair, this is basically an update to the operating system. In laymans terms, it's a sexier looking interface. But it's not quite that simple.
Now, for example, your Wallpapers can be animated, injecting your screen with a new lease of life. This works particularly well with the AMOLED screen.
Rather excitingly, it brings us into a realm where voice-to-text is a reality in all text fields. Imagine sending texts or emails simply by talking to your phone. Now do it, we're there.
A widget offering constant weather reviews is now possible and this can be echoed with news feeds and multi-tab functions. Check this out on the HTC Desire, it's gorgeous and with GPRS functionality it's specific to your location.
Photo albums have been enhanced with a cool new 3-D view which is really slick. All the better to showcase your holiday pix.
Top this off with helicopter views of your interface and pinch to zoom capability and we think you've got a lovely little armoury of new tricks to keep you informed and amused.
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Nice, but I hope it is quite accurate, especially for people who english is not their primary language. This kind of people usually has distinctive "accent" which could produce inaccurate to text translation.
I wish that it has that feature, ... BTW, Droids owner have been updated their devices to Android 2.1, .. does that feature work for them? anyone knows?
Edit: is this an Official HTC Desire page? I mean are they affiliated with HTC?
gogol said:
Nice, but I hope it is quite accurate, especially for people who english is not their primary language. This kind of people usually has distinctive "accent" which could produce inaccurate to text translation.
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Sure is - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAG66ts_R3M
That vid is of the Nexus which hasn't been released outside US yet, which makes it even more impressive
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Wow, nice ! Damn, 2 - 3 weeks seems too long waiting my HTC Desire
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Sure is - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAG66ts_R3M
That vid is of the Nexus which hasn't been released outside US yet, which makes it even more impressive
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Not sure if it'll support Geordies though!
I downloaded the htc keyboard and put it on my Milestone(selling for Desire) and it has the text to speech and it works ok but not all the time and it takes a while to do it not something i would use tbh.
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I downloaded the htc keyboard and put it on my Milestone(selling for Desire) and it has the text to speech and it works ok but not all the time and it takes a while to do it not something i would use tbh.
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nice! even if it does not work THAT well, its pretty cool feature to have.
But will it type in "definately" correctly?
maedox said:
But will it type in "definately" correctly?
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My thought exactly Someone DEFINITELY needs to learn to spell DEFINITELY correctly
OK so v2t looks like a DEFINITE then.
Can anyone confirm whether it has active noise cancelling like the N1? I have been told that it doesn't but can't remember where I read that.
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ctive noise cancelling like the N1? I have been told that it doesn't but can't remember where I read that.
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you are right, .. it does NOT, that is one of the differences between N1 and Desire, ... HTC justifies that the reason is to bring down the cost of the HTC Desire
stuff.tv did a quick review of the HTC Desire yesterday, and they specifically noted that it doesn't have the voice-to-text feature. I'm not too worried, as i'm sure this can be downloaded somehow later with a custom keyboard, as mentioned previously.
A very good contact at T-Mobile called HTC for me today and they said...
"Sorry for late mail, good news for you, spoke to HTC the handset doesn't come with the speak to text function, but there is an app call voice text which will do this and is already available. I will get back to you on the stock level asap"
Searching the market for "voice text" finds it. It's by a dev called Alex Byrnes and he states that it works on all android versions.
Edit: sorry, my mistake, works on every android app, NOT on every android version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5977827&postcount=28
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you are right, .. it does NOT, that is one of the differences between N1 and Desire, ... HTC justifies that the reason is to bring down the cost of the HTC Desire
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Thanks for clarifying mate. Not questioning your answer but how do you know that? I can't remember where it was I read about the noise cancelling feature.
He is right. I don't remember where I read it either, but it definitely says somewhere that it won't have one. Also, there's no visible second mic on the phone if you look at any of the pictures.
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Thanks for clarifying mate. Not questioning your answer but how do you know that? I can't remember where it was I read about the noise cancelling feature.
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He is right. I don't remember where I read it either, but it definitely says somewhere that it won't have one. Also, there's no visible second mic on the phone if you look at any of the pictures.
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here ya go ... I read it in many places, but this one is from "SlashGear"
.... You have to delve inside the chassis to find the main differences. The Desire lacks both the active noise cancellation and the triband HSDPA/WCDMA of the Nexus One, ....
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definitely no voice to text...
I've had my Desire 2 days - got the completely unbranded sim-free one; absolutely no mention of speech or voice to text anywhere - apparently the only way to get round this is install some dodgy Verizon keyboard which is a real shame...
Related
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/06/04/atandts-htc-touch-pro2-hits-the-fcc/
Great! Does anyone remember how long the time frame was for the Fuze from when it was approved by the FCC to when it was finally released?
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Great! Does anyone remember how long the time frame was for the Fuze from when it was approved by the FCC to when it was finally released?
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According to Engadget, on September 8th. If they move at the same speed, then we should see the TP2 around August 5th.
This great news!! i'll hope we'll get it on before august... but there is not pics of it yet.. right?
OMG YAY!!!
OMG OMG OMG
I'm SOOO HAPPY!!!
w00t!!
Hopefully it comes through quick... Sometimes things things can be up for sale within two or three weeks of clearing the FCC, but honestly, now that I know for sure it's coming to AT&T I can be patient. Had been getting very anxious with only the sketchy German inside papers to believe in.
I love my Kaiser, but I'll be happy to throw it on eBay once I have my TP2 in hand!
does this version support att 3g tho , or is it just a rebranded eruro version
It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it
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It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it
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This is exactly why i got the Euro version. I use wifi 97% of the time anyway so not really missing 3g plus with all of you all on 3g my edge runs faster lol
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It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard. I've heard it being called the HTC Fortress. I dunno if they will keep that name but i doubt it
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I'm sure AT&T will find some silly name for it... Where'd you hear about the keyboard? You have some news for us?
i kinda find it hard to believe that AT&T would mess up the keyboard THAT much. That might just be a quick photoshop moc-up or some such. IF they to stick with that ugly keyboard design, i doubt they will sell many of them.
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I'm sure AT&T will find some silly name for it... Where'd you hear about the keyboard? You have some news for us?
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I've seen the info at engadget and pocketnow but i think pocketnow got it from engadget. I'm pretty sure they will screw up the keyboard pretty bad same as they did with the original touch pro.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/24/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/
Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...
Not to mention there's no buttons specific to ATT found on that keyboard. Frankly I don't care of the letter layout, as long as it keeps the spaced out keys.
Now I just have to decide if I want to keep my HTC Touch HD or sell it for a TP2. I still have to sell my treo 750. I did just upgrade the rom to WM 6.5 and it is working pretty good. I want to see some difinitive pics of the AT&T version first. They always seem to mess up a good thing.
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Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...
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I'm with you... I see no reason to believe that is the final keyboard layout.
Hamburg said:
Man, you guys are way late on the keyboard stuff.
Here's the thread that started May 24th on this. Check post #25 for my personal mythbusters before getting all worked up over the Fortress picture...
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Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.
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Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.
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I guess I should've been more clear. I meant you can expect a change from the picture that was leaked. But if you can take anything from history then they're likely to change it from the way it was designed by HTC too.
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I guess I should've been more clear. I meant you can expect a change from the picture that was leaked. But if you can take anything from history then they're likely to change it from the way it was designed by HTC too.
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perhaps, but even with their history, i don't think ATT has ever changed the Psychical design of the keyboard, just changed what the keys themselves do. It would cost them too much time and money to 'redesign' the keyboard itself for it to have a different psychical layout. Changing whats printed on the keys is one thing, psychically moving them around is quite another.
So while i expect they will have different keys, programmed differently on their own version, im pretty sure the original layout, spacing and all, will remain intact, so it will resemble sprint/t-mobile versions with all their ATT crap on it instead. Now, given their history, they will likely change the top row numbers in to their own BS system of whatever they want to put their, and program the numbers as Fn of other keys, just make it more annoying for everyone..
In retrospect, i dont see ATT changing the phone anymore than sprint has with their color scheme and back cover. (which while it looks different, its not something that HTC has to make a new manufacturing line for)
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Uhhh i wouldn't say that you shouldn't be expecting a keyboard change. Whether it will be the severe i dunno but it will get a keyboard change that will suck. If you look at att/cingular history they either leave the keyboard alone(which is rare) or they mess it up. I think the only they improved with the wizard (Cingular 8125). I think they left the tytn and the tytn2's keyboard the same and then they ruined the touch pros. I would say expect the worst and hope for the best.
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k lol cause I got worried and thought you had some new info when you said:
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It will support 3G but they have completed screwed up the keyboard.
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Hopefully if it's just speculation we can put the keyboard to rest for a bit till we get some info?
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perhaps, but even with their history, i don't think ATT has ever changed the Psychical design of the keyboard, just changed what the keys themselves do. It would cost them too much time and money to 'redesign' the keyboard itself for it to have a different psychical layout. Changing whats printed on the keys is one thing, psychically moving them around is quite another.
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I can say that is true since att didn't change the wizards keyboard design it was cingular that did.
Will the HTC phones have this UI anytime soon ?
ELSE Mobile phone user interface
VIDEO: Hands-on with the ELSE Access Linux Platform smartphone
this is what i thought wm7 was going to look like
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
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Where should it be then ?
what category ?
Hi ilordvader,
You should go on the official site for more info: http://www.firstelse.com/
Also, it has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7 series (This UI is based on Limo).
To my mind, this thread should be moved in General forums.
Cheers.
This is actually much better than stupid iPhone-like WP7. And it even multitasks.
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And it even multitasks.
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Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
godefroi said:
Multitasking is not special. Every phone EXCEPT the iPhone multitasks. Windows Mobile has been doing it for a decade.
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Of course. I was trying to be sarcastic, because WP7 (just like iPhone) will not have true multitasking.
BTW,
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
mazzarin said:
That 'home' menu looks pretty cool, the rest of the phone, eh. What's up with those side buttons?
However, their actual 'phone' functionality niceities are interesting - e.g. call handling while in another app, or during a meeting, etc. I'd actually pay for that as an app for our phones!
Also, their multitasking handling was cool.
BTW: Probably the wrong forum
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I hate tiny buttons
I love WP7 for it's big buttons.
I have said time and again, when you are mobile, you are HANDICAPPED. You cannot be looking for tiny buttons while you are walking down the street and typing an email or browsing.
So you need a phone with a large(er) size i.e HD2, and big buttons.
HD2's biggest flaw is it's array of tiny buttons on the bottom.
gorelshv said:
The company which is responsible for this phone is an Israeli company called Else (foremly Emblaze). Another israeli designed cellphone is the Modu (or Modo, i'm not sure) which is intended for developing markets.
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
This thing has to be moved onto another forum.
Anyway, you can see that it is Linux-based, so maybe we can have it when we'll get a working Linux kernel for the HD2!
...Or on other devices (that are already running Linux just fine) like Diamond, Blackstone, Raphael etc.!
very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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that's hiliarous i was thinkin the same thing cuz i am left handed
it would have been interesting if you talked about the hardware that's running the phone it would be interesting if we could boot that up on our devices the phone intergation is very slick i really liked the way it handled the phone call
i would like to see how it's developed in the future and if they release a version of hardware with a slide out keyboard if so i think i'd be interested in makin the switch if the development got big enough as thing here on xda have gotten
i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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arent we glad hitler did not finsh the job lol
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Yes, we are!
chiks19018 said:
Big deal....they won't get your business.
i guess 90% of people are right handed. Why worry about the 10% LOL
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they should worry about the 10%, because they are not a very well known company and they could use all the customers they can get, i saw the ui about 1 month ago, and after that i read about it again yesterday in this thread. they would be better off selling the ui idea to a bigger OEM or MS or Apple or Google, because only then this ui will become popular.
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i just checked out the site really impressed with the functionality of the UI man if windows mobile 7 had been these i'd been very impressed but oh well well see what happens at MWC
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what happens at MWC? MWC is over..
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very nice ui, surprised that noone tried to replicate it for WM.
a question though.. what if you're left-handed?
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Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
Roadrunner100 said:
Upon initial device setup, you can choose either Left or Right handed operation. This can also be changed on-the-fly.
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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oh, cool, but i was mainly talking about the hw buttons..
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umm...you have 2 hands..or no?
use the other one.
Hey,
Okay so I've had the desire for around a week now and thought I would post a few points which I think are relevant, sort of like a mini review. I came from a G1 and therefore this isn't my first taste of android.
The Software
The software performs so much better on this phone than Android ever did on the G1 (even after the various amount of hacks, patches etc to try and get it to go faster). The 1ghz processor definitely makes a difference as applications are loaded up instantly, web pages load fast (and almost instant) on 3G and movies run perfectly.
The Screen
Most people have noted a pink tint on the screen and I'm not going to lie to you, this does exist however, don't let this put you off from getting the screen. The AMOLED is truly beautiful, bright and colourful and blacks really are black (I was waiting for a youtube video to load and thought the screen had gone off it's that black). While there are pink tones (especially in Google Mail) they're not really that noticeable and only seem to show on a certain shade of grey, it's the sort of thing that wont bother you unless you want it to.
The Keyboard
The keyboard is truly magical! Seriously, I never ever hit the right key yet the predictive text always seems to know what I want to type. It also seems to be a multitouch keyboard and I can type fairly quickly on it, almost as quick as I could with the QWERTY on the G1.
Voice to Text
Voice to text is quite accurate even with my Brummie-British accent however, it's not installed by default. It should be however, expect it in a rom update very soon.
The Battery
Although everyone else may not be, I'm very impressed. Lasts around 1.5-2 days which is double what my G1 ever lasted. This is with heavy usage, bluetooth usage and even live wallpapers.
Anything else I think of I'll add, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask
gratz mate, seems like you might be one of those lucky guys whos phones were not faulty at all lol
I came from the HTC Hero and agree with all of the above.
A lot has been said of the screen but I certainly don't notice the pink on the screen. I'm not even convinced it is there! A lot of the negative comments seem to be coming from people who have never seen a Desire but have, in my opinion, been mislead into thinking that it is a serious problem. I don't think it will be an issue for 99% of users.
To me the screen is far, far superior to that of the Hero.
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gratz mate, seems like you might be one of those lucky guys whos phones were not faulty at all lol
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Hi,
Do you have a Desire or are you one of the mislead?
Thanks Brummiesteven
Hopefully this time next week, I will be emailing FedEx/Customs (I really do not know who it is) to have my phone released to me. Definitely appreciate the review. Glad to know that the whole "pinkish tint" issue really isn't that bad
I agree too. Got my phone last Saturday and have loved using it since. Other than the weather app occasionally needing to be manually updated I've not had any problems. It's a nice change from S60 5th my Samsung on I8910.
Totally agree! In fact, you just wrote half of the text for my review =]
One thing I'd correct is re: keyboard. Since I'm not a native English speaker, I have text prediction turned off as I need to type in Lithuanian too. I hit the right keys with 99% accuracy (or so it seems) and I can confirm that it's just as good as using full QWERTY on G1.
Thanks for sharing your views.
It was all going fine till you mentioned it understanding brummie, c'mon
brummiesteven said:
The Keyboard
The keyboard is truly magical! Seriously, I never ever hit the right key yet the predictive text always seems to know what I want to type.
Anything else I think of I'll add, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask
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Hey brummie, thx for the review! I'd appreciate if you could answer some questions concerning long-time usage:
- Has the limited space for apps been a problem so far? I don't plan on installing more than 1 game, but still...
- Also, is there lag/slowdown on normal usage or after a few days? My WM6.1 phone is really laggy and I don't want to buy a laggy phone again...
Oh, and also concerning the keyboard: How hard is it to really hit the right keys? (I write alot in Swiss German, and there aren't even printed dictionaries for it )
Thanks!
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It was all going fine till you mentioned it understanding brummie, c'mon
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To be fair I wasn't really hinting at brummie but just trying to make the point that it actually works with "accents". These sort of things only usually work if you're American
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Hey brummie, thx for the review! I'd appreciate if you could answer some questions concerning long-time usage:
- Has the limited space for apps been a problem so far? I don't plan on installing more than 1 game, but still...
- Also, is there lag/slowdown on normal usage or after a few days? My WM6.1 phone is really laggy and I don't want to buy a laggy phone again...
Oh, and also concerning the keyboard: How hard is it to really hit the right keys? (I write alot in Swiss German, and there aren't even printed dictionaries for it )
Thanks!
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Limited space hasn't been a problem so far, only 72 apps atm though (including stock apps) and only 21.40mb avaliable =/.
No lag/slowdown after a few days, you don't get this with android fullstop. My G1 was never off (as in shutdown or restarted, and neither is the desire).
It's not hard to hit the right keys, I just have fast thumbs and type at (approx) 75wpm on the phone. If I go slower I hit the correct key everytime.
I don't think the reviewer meant that the keyboard was hard to type with - he was just impressed that if you use it with elbows or toes or whatever it'll do a good job working out what you were going for.
It is certainly on a par - if not better than the iPhone, which is a credit to HTC. It's obvious that it has shook up the Apple house - they are running scared hence the gazillion unwarranted lawsuits have slung (a la toys out of play pen) in HTCs direction (I mean - swipe to unlock - c'mon!)
[edit] you just beat me to it! lol
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To be fair I wasn't really hinting at brummie but just trying to make the point that it actually works with "accents". These sort of things only usually work if you're American
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That'll be Birmingham Alabama then
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Hi,
Do you have a Desire or are you one of the mislead?
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Hi, i am one of those who wait for their phone due to easter break...which means I'm kind of mislead however I am a very fussy person though which is why I worry a little about the pink tint
anyway anyone know if theres a way of installing additional t9 languages?
brummiesteven - could you list all the t9 languages you have available?
cez10 said:
Hi, i am one of those who wait for their phone due to easter break...which means I'm kind of mislead however I am a very fussy person though which is why I worry a little about the pink tint
anyway anyone know if theres a way of installing additional t9 languages?
brummiesteven - could you list all the t9 languages you have available?
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Cestina
Dansk
Deutsch
English
Espanol
Francais
Italiano
Nederlands
Norsk
Polski
Portugues
Svenska
Turkce
Pyccknn? (N = backwards N)
Eyynvika? (y = upside down Y)
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Cestina
Dansk
Deutsch
English
Espanol
Francais
Italiano
Nederlands
Norsk
Polski
Portugues
Svenska
Turkce
Pyccknn? (N = backwards N)
Eyynvika? (y = upside down Y)
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thanks man in that case wont have to install any additional ones
anyone have an idea what happens with words added by the user to the dictionary? in symbian there was about 250 words allowed or something like that and later they were getting wiped or at least my nokia did wipe them :S
There's a user dictionary for your own words but no idea if any get deleted. Can't see any reason why they would, I dont have many myself to test though.
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There's a user dictionary for your own words but no idea if any get deleted. Can't see any reason why they would, I dont have many myself to test though.
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can you add new words as you type a message or you have to go into the dictionary and add them there?
the reason why they got deleted is probably my phone is messed up, every now and then i cant send texts unless i reinstall the software, so no more nokias for me
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When you type a word it doesn't recognize and ignore it's suggestion and pick the word you typed instead it automatically adds it to the dictionary.
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thats how it is in nokias so all good thanks
cez10 said:
can you add new words as you type a message or you have to go into the dictionary and add them there?
the reason why they got deleted is probably my phone is messed up, every now and then i cant send texts unless i reinstall the software, so no more nokias for me
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When you type a word it doesn't recognize and ignore it's suggestion and pick the word you typed instead it automatically adds it to the dictionary.
Flash
Hi all.
Got my Desire from Virginmobile UK today. Great phone.
Tried to play a video on the BBC website & got a message saying that the phone is not compatible. I was under the impression that Flash compatibility existed with this ROM. No ?
Hey, I need your help!
I'm thinking about exchanging my HD2 for a Desire, but I'd like to know how good the single LED flash is vs. the dual LED in the HD2.
Does someone own both phones? If so, could you do some comparison shots with the flash?
Also, can you say something about the battery life?
And screen with the fewer sub-pixels in the Desire vs. the lower contrast of the HD2's LCD screen?
Really hope someone has them both and can help me.
I will receive my Desire on tuesday hopefully, so then I will be able to compare it for you with my sisters hd2 of course if you dont mind waiting, pretty sure some users here have both phones already
I dunno if this helps but the flash is bright enough to take a photo in a completely dark room and it be visible.
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I will receive my Desire on tuesday hopefully, so then I will be able to compare it for you with my sisters hd2 of course if you dont mind waiting, pretty sure some users here have both phones already
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Thanks a lot!
No, I don't mind waiting. It will only become available here in a week or so.
EDIT: Thanks, brummiesteven. Yes, from what I read it's pretty good, I only wonder how good it is compared to the HD2...
C:Sharp! said:
Thanks a lot!
No, I don't mind waiting. It will only become available here in a week or so.
EDIT: Thanks, brummiesteven. Yes, from what I read it's pretty good, I only wonder how good it is compared to the HD2...
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you can order desire from t-mobile over the phone or through the internet and you get 7 days to play with it and return it, and they will pay you back so i think that would be the best for you cuz you can test it however you like
Aren't they SIM-locked?
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Aren't they SIM-locked?
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Yes, unbranded though and only 15 euros for an unlock code.
C:Sharp! said:
Aren't they SIM-locked?
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yes but you can grab a free sim from your local store or online and use it for testing
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Yes, unbranded though and only 15 euros for an unlock code.
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does that mean we dont have to debrand the phone to get htcs updates?
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Yes, unbranded though and only 15 euros for an unlock code.
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Didn't know you could get cheap unlock codes in the UK. Nice!
Anyway, if someone could do a test, that would be great.
cez10 said:
yes but you can grab a free sim from your local store or online and use it for testing
does that mean we dont have to debrand the phone to get htcs updates?
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No you need to debrand to get HTC Updates. Although there is no physical branding and only a T-Mobile startup animation.
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Didn't know you could get cheap unlock codes in the UK. Nice!
Anyway, if someone could do a test, that would be great.
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course you can mate if you got time to look for it
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No you need to debrand to get HTC Updates. Although there is no physical branding and only a T-Mobile startup animation.
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ah ok I get you know
Just pushing, maybe someone has both now and can help?
I will write my feelings tonight just busy at work currently
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Cool! Thanks a lot!
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Hey, I need your help!
I'm thinking about exchanging my HD2 for a Desire, but I'd like to know how good the single LED flash is vs. the dual LED in the HD2.
Does someone own both phones? If so, could you do some comparison shots with the flash?
Also, can you say something about the battery life?
And screen with the fewer sub-pixels in the Desire vs. the lower contrast of the HD2's LCD screen?
Really hope someone has them both and can help me.
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Battery life is about 25% better on the Desire.
Flash comparison please make your own mind up, I have uploaded comparison shots taken with both phones below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157623774124256/
Screen is gonna be one of those things were everyone has a different opinion, but my choice would be the size and clear readability of the HD2 over the better contrast on the Desire.
Thanks very much!
Crazy, I think the picture from the Desire looks better.
What camera drivers do you have on your HD2? Those from the TMO US 2.10 ROM?
It looks like the single LED on the Desire is just as bright as the two LEDs of the HD2, is that true? What if you take a picture in a big, dark room, is the range of the Desire's flash the same as the range of the HD2's flash?
Nice to hear that the battery life is better, despite the spec sheets telling something different. Actually, with the smaller AMOLED screen, the Desire's battery life *should* be better, but strangely, HTC claim otherwise.
I have a Touch HD with a 3.8" screen and an HD2 with the 4.3" screen, and interestingly, at minimum zoom level (and the same amount of content on both screens), the Touch HD's smaller screen is more readable.
I guess this isn't the case with the Desire, since it has less sub-pixels?
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well i have just bought a Desire unlocked and come from a HD2 . i would say the desire definately has the better camera /flash ,takes a very nice photo and has control over saturation and other effects which make for very interesting pictures. Something which the Hd2 lacked.
Battery life for me is a bit of an issue and may be down to all the updates which i am still playing about with. Though to be honest i had to charge both by the end of the day.
Just for comparison between the two though i would say the Desire thrashes the HD2 , even screen size doesnt matter as the Desire screen is still pretty large and a delight to watch with amoled. May have issues come summer when the screen will be rendered useless( twas a bit sunny otherday and i was in the shade to read it .) Android is just great to use over windows.
Another nice video with the Asus prototype...
(pinky WP7 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz75iTMJil8source : intomobile via smartphone france
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Always in the NYC Microsoft press event, with the Samsung protoype...
At the Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival (Microsoft Advertising)... WP7 in october!
Awesome. And a much better recording than the presentations at MIX.
It's much more clear the phone don't lag, and how smooth using the interface actually is, when watching this video.
Not to sure I prefer Pink over Blue, but hey! always good with possibilities.
Now that is pretty awesome!
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It's much more clear the phone don't lag, and how smooth using the interface actually is, when watching this video.
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This is exactly how I felt after using it. The smoothness is quite impressive. It really makes you realize who quirky and laggy WM6.5 is.
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This is exactly how I felt after using it. The smoothness is quite impressive. It really makes you realize who quirky and laggy WM6.5 is.
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You actually managed to get hands on ? /envy
I have a Android phone (HTC Hero), I guess that speak for itself regarding laggy UI ;-)
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You actually managed to get hands on ? /envy
I have a Android phone (HTC Hero), I guess that speak for itself regarding laggy UI ;-)
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About 15min with some Microsofties wearily looking over my shoulder making sure I didn't break it and/or find any new stuff (I didn't).
awesome interface, i m lovin it.
Looking really good. Cant wait to get my hands on one.
man.. you tube is blocked at work
Good thing I have my TP2 to watch it
Nice, vid.
Another video showed up from the NYC Event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeOkPO3dLQ
You can see Gmail is supported too!
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You can see Gmail is supported too!
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Yup. GMail, yahoo, and windows live are all specifically listed. It has a auto-config feature that may work with some others. But it also supports any pop3, imap, or Outlook ActiveSync service (which GMail and now Windows Live supports).
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First post updated with new video from Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival.
The vocal search seems pretty cool
Great to see the pink accent colour - while it wouldn't be my choice, that means they've added a few more since the leaked and unlocked ROM.
GMail support showed up in the leaked rom already, if you clicked 'set up email account' you could choose it from a list.
Awesome...I love the ASUS phone...
Damn it MS...I am forgoing the Apple Iphone4G to this...do make it for christmas!!!
looks nice!
chikoo said:
Awesome...I love the ASUS phone...
Damn it MS...I am forgoing the Apple Iphone4G to this...do make it for christmas!!!
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That ASUS phone won't ever hit retail AFAIK, neither will that Samsung phone that has been shown and I'm not even sure whether that LG phone will ever hit the market either.
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That ASUS phone won't ever hit retail AFAIK, neither will that Samsung phone that has been shown and I'm not even sure whether that LG phone will ever hit the market either.
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I confirm.
These are just prototypes.
I must admit that the Asus one is very smart
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About 15min with some Microsofties wearily looking over my shoulder making sure I didn't break it and/or find any new stuff (I didn't).
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Asus ? wow . that's good .
I hope asus comes out with their WP7 first in singapore ,
i'm looking forward to pwning iOS4 ^^
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I hope asus comes out with their WP7 first in singapore ,
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Of course, because Singapore is their biggest and most important market in the whole world /*irony