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Should i switch?

Right now i have a Blackberry Bold (9000) & i have had WM phones in the past...I have been looking at the new Tilt it i like the phone but i wanted to know a few things before i get it.
1. Will it be able to use the new WM7?
2. Is the phone any good when it comes to texting & emails?
3. What are the key features to this phone?
I have also saw that you can put Android on the phone. How does that run?
Sorry i just wanted to know a few things before jumping into the phone.
Thanks!

1. From what I've read, it will not be able to upgrade to Windows Mobile 7, but from what we've seen why would you want it anyway.
2. The keyboard is the best out there. Text and email is a breeze.
3. Best user community out there. Phone can do anything I need it to and if it can't someone will build something to enable it (Android for one)
4. Android is out there. I run it on my phone, but it is in it's infancy. check out rhodium android in the wiki to find what's working and what isn't.
I'm not an expert, just a regular guy that uses my phone for regular stuff. Good luck with your phone decision. Hope I was of some help.

jdotbakes said:
1. From what I've read, it will not be able to upgrade to Windows Mobile 7, but from what we've seen why would you want it anyway.
2. The keyboard is the best out there. Text and email is a breeze.
3. Best user community out there. Phone can do anything I need it to and if it can't someone will build something to enable it (Android for one)
4. Android is out there. I run it on my phone, but it is in it's infancy. check out rhodium android in the wiki to find what's working and what isn't.
I'm not an expert, just a regular guy that uses my phone for regular stuff. Good luck with your phone decision. Hope I was of some help.
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Thanks alot for the feedback.
I think i will be going back to a WM phone... I have one more question i forgot to ask...???
1. How is the App Store?

app store sucks but as you know there are tons of wm apps that are scattered everywhere on the net

The TP2 will not get an official WP7 upgrade. The phone's processor is too slow, wrong button layout, and no capacitive screen. WP7 requires a capacitive screen (multi-touch) and a 3 button layout (including a dedicated "Bing" search button) on the front of the phone, and MS is being very strict about these requirements. Somebody on XDA will cook something for the TP2, but don't expect anything official.
If you use your phone heavily for work, the TP2 has a great speakerphone. I love the feature of just turning the phone over, and it switches automatically to speaker phone (with a hardware mute button!). Also, the ability to tether is very useful, if you travel frequently.

I wouldn't even worry about the WP7. I highly doubt this thing will be that great right off the bat. I'm not even intrigued by most of it. I highly recommend the tilt2 and you know that if you ever have problems, you always have this forum to fall back on. So much customization is possible with this phone, and that extent of customization for the WP7 will not be available for quite a while after those phones start coming out.

I think the tp2 is awsome but since i know there are a few WM device coming out right around the corner with snapdragon processors I would probably wait on them unless u need to get a new device asap.

redpoint73 said:
Somebody on XDA will cook something for the TP2, but don't expect anything official.
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Do NOT base your decision on this or expect this. This will most likely not happen since it is a completely different OS and kernel and would require completely new drivers.
You might want to try one out before getting it. The processor in this phone is the same one that they used for the previous generation and that is just a higher clocked version of the processor used in the generation before. It is pretty slow and takes about 4 seconds to load a text message conversation. That is pretty slow for a bunch of text.
If the speed is acceptable, then its a pretty nice device.

petard said:
Do NOT base your decision on this or expect this. This will most likely not happen since it is a completely different OS and kernel and would require completely new drivers.
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Wasn't that the case when Android came along though? But, I do agree that even if wtfomgwm7sp7 ever does get ported to the TP2, it won't be a pretty picture, kinda like that kid at the birthday party who tried to stuff the entire piece of cake in his mouth at once
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If the speed is acceptable, then its a pretty nice device.
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That actually sums it up quite well...the TP2 isn't quite the bleeding edge of whats available in smartphones today, but you just have to decide if that (minor) level of compromise is justified to you by getting the sweetest hardware keyboard there is, period.* For some it is, for some it isn't.
*pure, unqualified, unapologetic opinion

Sik96teG said:
I think the tp2 is awsome but since i know there are a few WM device coming out right around the corner with snapdragon processors I would probably wait on them unless u need to get a new device asap.
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Well what is ATT next HTC WM Phone coming out?

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/AT-T-carrier-c_14_3.html

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http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/AT-T-carrier-c_14_3.html
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Well yeah but the only HTC phone is HTC Desire US and i like to have a full keyboard =/....
Well anyways i got the Tilt 2 = D

This 3 button thing is a load of crap!

As per the title. WinPhone 7 requires 3 buttons and apparently the HD2 doesn't meet the criteria. What a load of tosh. Lets do the Math, 5-3=2. Start, back & search buttons. Now forgive me if I am wrong, but as a HD2 owner and looking at it as I type, but doesn't the HD2 have a Start button? Doesn't it have a Back button? And again, forgive me if wrong, but when you purchased a new keyboard with shortcut keys, wasn't the key with the picture of the house a shortcut to IE? IE, which was a method of searching, searching the Web. Doesn't Bing use the web to search. So could the home key not be used as the search key? Yes there are 2 extra keys, but at the end of the day, these devices are phones aren't they, so having 2 extra keys to answer and end calls makes sense.
Sorry for the rant, and if this has been mentioned before, but I for one are getting sick to the back teeth of hearing that the 3 button thing will be a reason that the HD2 doesn't get the upgrade.
Seg

I think it's almost funny like people still can't get over it. Yes, the HD2 won't get an update. The device is history. So what!? Go get a new phone.
But I also have to add some sarcasm: Yes, you really don't need a phone button on a phone.
Yikes!

Rammann, I am more than happy with my phone. I just find the comments about the HD2 not getting the upgrade as it doesn't have the "3 buttons" laughable.
Just my 2 penneth worth
Seg

Not only button, but GPU and sdcard slot.
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Rammann, I am more than happy with my phone. I just find the comments about the HD2 not getting the upgrade as it doesn't have the "3 buttons" laughable.
Just my 2 penneth worth
Seg
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gogol said:
Not only button, but GPU and sdcard slot.
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plus the dead horse

Isn't there a thread somewhere on here about scaling hardware absent on the HD2 that is specified for WP7S ?

No camera button either,
I can see why they dont want to support though, as unlike previous WM WP7S will get updates from MS and not the manufacture, so having to constantly support a hacked to run on HD2 OS would get a bit iffy,
Plus dont you need 8GB of flash memory on the device also?? the HD2 already gives you too many out of storage errors

Seg2009 said:
As per the title. WinPhone 7 requires 3 buttons and apparently the HD2 doesn't meet the criteria. What a load of tosh. Lets do the Math, 5-3=2. Start, back & search buttons. Now forgive me if I am wrong, but as a HD2 owner and looking at it as I type, but doesn't the HD2 have a Start button? Doesn't it have a Back button? And again, forgive me if wrong, but when you purchased a new keyboard with shortcut keys, wasn't the key with the picture of the house a shortcut to IE? IE, which was a method of searching, searching the Web. Doesn't Bing use the web to search. So could the home key not be used as the search key? Yes there are 2 extra keys, but at the end of the day, these devices are phones aren't they, so having 2 extra keys to answer and end calls makes sense.
Sorry for the rant, and if this has been mentioned before, but I for one are getting sick to the back teeth of hearing that the 3 button thing will be a reason that the HD2 doesn't get the upgrade.
Seg
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I wouldnt worry about that cuz sooner than later, HD2 will get a cooked WM7 ROM from all the great chef here!!!

Seg2009 said:
As per the title. WinPhone 7 requires 3 buttons and apparently the HD2 doesn't meet the criteria. What a load of tosh. Lets do the Math, 5-3=2. Start, back & search buttons. Now forgive me if I am wrong, but as a HD2 owner and looking at it as I type, but doesn't the HD2 have a Start button? Doesn't it have a Back button? And again, forgive me if wrong, but when you purchased a new keyboard with shortcut keys, wasn't the key with the picture of the house a shortcut to IE? IE, which was a method of searching, searching the Web. Doesn't Bing use the web to search. So could the home key not be used as the search key? Yes there are 2 extra keys, but at the end of the day, these devices are phones aren't they, so having 2 extra keys to answer and end calls makes sense.
Sorry for the rant, and if this has been mentioned before, but I for one are getting sick to the back teeth of hearing that the 3 button thing will be a reason that the HD2 doesn't get the upgrade.
Seg
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exactly 3 button excuse is ridiculous,,,, ,,
gpu hardware absent makes sense though..

Leechoonhwee said:
I wouldnt worry about that cuz sooner than later, HD2 will get a cooked WM7 ROM from all the great chef here!!!
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I don't think this is possible.
Anyway... why would you want to do this in the first place? throw away your fully customizable WM phone and morph it into a locked down brick? no thanks.

lol, i really don't like this HD2 with no upgrade too. but i don't know, i try to be optimistic and think that HTC will change the buttons plastic thingy(i guess for a resionable amount of money) on our devices.

anaadoul said:
lol, i really don't like this HD2 with no upgrade too. but i don't know, i try to be optimistic and think that HTC will change the buttons plastic thingy(i guess for a resionable amount of money) on our devices.
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sorry you guys are so naive....
HD2 = Windows Mobile phone
WP7 = completely new OS (new windows ce, new "windows mobile")
HTC might be more than busy to work on real WP7 device, I doubt they are wasting any resources to get it working on their old devices.

gogol said:
Not only button, but GPU and sdcard slot.
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I HAve An Universal And HTC-Dopod want, So Sad No GPU

anaadoul said:
lol, i really don't like this HD2 with no upgrade too. but i don't know, i try to be optimistic and think that HTC will change the buttons plastic thingy(i guess for a resionable amount of money) on our devices.
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Forget about these buttons already. WP7 doesn't support storage cards, so HD2 will be next to useless anyway with this OS.

hmm.. if there is a free upgrade of not-yet-born dead WP7S on my lovely HD2, I won't accept it I will live with my HD2 WM 6.5. I just wish that my HD2's battery will last for a week

i feel a phone should always have a call and call end hardware button

Ganondolf said:
i feel a phone should always have a call and call end hardware button
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I agree I always use my hardware buttons to answer and end calls.

Kloc said:
I agree I always use my hardware buttons to answer and end calls.
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Exactly my point, there are the 3 other buttons there already. GPU & SDcard are a bummer though.

a windows mobile 7 phone have the same number of buttons as the hd2. only difference is the layout.......

starchildx said:
a windows mobile 7 phone have the same number of buttons as the hd2. only difference is the layout.......
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HD2 has call and home button and no search button. WP7 devices can't have more or less then the button requirements. In this case HD2 has more then required and also missing one.

Fresh New Look at Windows Phone 7

Another nice video with the Asus prototype...
(pinky WP7 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz75iTMJil8​source : intomobile via smartphone france
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Always in the NYC Microsoft press event, with the Samsung protoype...
​At the Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival (Microsoft Advertising)... WP7 in october!
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Awesome. And a much better recording than the presentations at MIX.
It's much more clear the phone don't lag, and how smooth using the interface actually is, when watching this video.
Not to sure I prefer Pink over Blue, but hey! always good with possibilities.

Now that is pretty awesome!

Windcape said:
It's much more clear the phone don't lag, and how smooth using the interface actually is, when watching this video.
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This is exactly how I felt after using it. The smoothness is quite impressive. It really makes you realize who quirky and laggy WM6.5 is.

RustyGrom said:
This is exactly how I felt after using it. The smoothness is quite impressive. It really makes you realize who quirky and laggy WM6.5 is.
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You actually managed to get hands on ? /envy
I have a Android phone (HTC Hero), I guess that speak for itself regarding laggy UI ;-)

Windcape said:
You actually managed to get hands on ? /envy
I have a Android phone (HTC Hero), I guess that speak for itself regarding laggy UI ;-)
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About 15min with some Microsofties wearily looking over my shoulder making sure I didn't break it and/or find any new stuff (I didn't).

awesome interface, i m lovin it.

Looking really good. Cant wait to get my hands on one.

man.. you tube is blocked at work
Good thing I have my TP2 to watch it
Nice, vid.

Another video showed up from the NYC Event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeOkPO3dLQ
You can see Gmail is supported too!

the-hq said:
You can see Gmail is supported too!
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Yup. GMail, yahoo, and windows live are all specifically listed. It has a auto-config feature that may work with some others. But it also supports any pop3, imap, or Outlook ActiveSync service (which GMail and now Windows Live supports).

New video links
First post updated with new video from Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival.
The vocal search seems pretty cool

Great to see the pink accent colour - while it wouldn't be my choice, that means they've added a few more since the leaked and unlocked ROM.
GMail support showed up in the leaked rom already, if you clicked 'set up email account' you could choose it from a list.

Awesome...I love the ASUS phone...
Damn it MS...I am forgoing the Apple Iphone4G to this...do make it for christmas!!!

looks nice!

chikoo said:
Awesome...I love the ASUS phone...
Damn it MS...I am forgoing the Apple Iphone4G to this...do make it for christmas!!!
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That ASUS phone won't ever hit retail AFAIK, neither will that Samsung phone that has been shown and I'm not even sure whether that LG phone will ever hit the market either.

Helmore said:
That ASUS phone won't ever hit retail AFAIK, neither will that Samsung phone that has been shown and I'm not even sure whether that LG phone will ever hit the market either.
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I confirm.
These are just prototypes.
I must admit that the Asus one is very smart

RustyGrom said:
About 15min with some Microsofties wearily looking over my shoulder making sure I didn't break it and/or find any new stuff (I didn't).
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Asus ? wow . that's good .
I hope asus comes out with their WP7 first in singapore ,
i'm looking forward to pwning iOS4 ^^

djdestiny said:
I hope asus comes out with their WP7 first in singapore ,
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Of course, because Singapore is their biggest and most important market in the whole world /*irony

Nokia 'Sea Ray' WP7

Nokia 'Sea Ray' WP7 handset revealed on a factory floor? (Video)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/nokia-sea-ray-wp7-handset-revealed-on-a-factory-floor-video/
Stephen Elop himself spilled the beans about Nokia's first WP7 handset, codenamed Sea Ray, when he told a large live audience and some whirring video cameras that he wanted the phone to be kept "super confidential." Now we have a whole new puddle of legumes lying on what sounds like a Chinese factory floor, courtesy of the authentic-looking video above. The clip reveals the N9-like device removed from what appears to be a stealth case, followed by a speedy boot-up into the Windows Phone OS. We're also treated to a quick look at the camera in action -- triggered by a dedicated shutter button that's missing on the N9 -- before a hurried "goodbye." There's not much else to see here, but could that reddish theme be a hint that this particular example is destined for Vodafone? Only time will tell.
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Boot was quick..

Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.

sylau90 said:
Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.
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Because that's obviously slowing this phone down, right?
This isn't the android forums.
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Never bother about it if it's still using 1st gen snapdragon 1ghz processor and 512 ram.
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WP7 is quicker on this set up than the most powerful android devices, so there's no need to shove juice hungry processors in there if not needed, its all about efficiency.
Count me in for a sea ray when its released, a lovely looking device and im looking forward to nokias great camera optics and mapping

That's a super nice phone. When Mango is finished, that will be the superman of WP7 phones.

Looks ok, I'm not blown away but, we all know it comes down to the numbers.
I know there is a lot of Nokia fans but, for the first Windows Phone 7 models from them I expect them to be innovative and different from the HTC and others. I don't see any sign of a front camera or anything else different.
I guess I'll wait for the numbers but, so far, not inpressed.

bye bye HD7.... welcome sea ray.... i will ask my friend to buy and ship it over when its launched in Europe...
i like the shape, looks like a bigger iPod shuffle...
cant wait for it to come out... hope it got the FFC..

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cant wait for it to come out... hope it got the FFC..
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I doubt it, because the switch camera button in the camera app is missing... but i guess we have to wait for the release to be sure.

I like the way screen is protuding outside a few milimeters when you look at it from side.. once we fit it with a hard case covering only back.. it should fit in good and make the phone smooth and look good when holding in hands..
In this vedio it looks mediocre though because of all the plastic cover and stuff... I hope it has gorilla glass scratch proof glass and super amoled like S Omnia 7..
One more plus is earphone jack is at the end and not in middle like current phones..
I am praying their is a way to lock the stupid useless bing search button in this phone..

I don't see any evidence of a FFC. I suppose we'll have to wait though. Also, how is the bing button useless? I use it more often than anything else on the phone.

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I don't see any evidence of a FFC. I suppose we'll have to wait though. Also, how is the bing button useless? I use it more often than anything else on the phone.
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Clearly you dont play cool Xbox games like fruit ninja than..

Purple11 said:
Clearly you dont play cool Xbox games like fruit ninja than..
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Or he probably has better hand/eye coordination than you do

It looks too square for me, like a brick (not a fancy rounded style). Also, buttons location not too good for windshield mount, if you using handset as GPS (at least in my current windshield mount).

Looking good!
I actually even had a dream about this phone last night, in which I took a picture in low light, and it looked amazing.

The Bing button isn't useless. Sorry, had to respond to that... I find myself looking up things multiple times a day, and I use the Bing button often. Just because YOU don't use it, doesn't make it useless... Even now that I'm running Mango... I don't use the market tile, I just hit the search button, type in the app, and bam, I'm there... Though, as far as the locking, I will agree somewhat. They could include an option where it'll only trigger on a long-press when you're inside another app

Remember this is their first device. Nokia could have design it before Microsoft finalize the "skype-ability". And it could be their entry level windows phone, get it into the hands of the Nokia fanboy masses and spit out another in 6 months (or less) with the full featured device. I don't think the US will see this one. If it is mid priced offering to the EU and Asia. I think Nokia and Microsoft could easily start the takeover of the phone market.

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sorry that i have to say, but i find the search button myself quite usefull anytime i do searching stuffs. Bing gives me useful answers as good as Google does. That why now i use Bing as my default search engine.
by the way, why don't you just hit the damn search button instead of typing "Google.com" and navigate all the way to search stuffs on IE ?
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Strike_Eagle said:
sorry that i have to say, but i find the search button myself quite usefull anytime i do searching stuffs. Bing gives me useful answers as good as Google does. That why now i use Bing as my default search engine.
by the way, why don't you just hit the damn search button instead of typing "Google.com" and navigate all the way to search stuffs on IE ?
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I dont use internet search that often on daily basis to warrant a dedicated key in front like that.. i would have been much happier if it was to pickup calls or go to phone tab and things like that..

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I dont use internet search that often on daily basis to warrant a dedicated key in front like that.. i would have been much happier if it was to pickup calls or go to phone tab and things like that..
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maybe u should stick a thick sticker on the bing button....
i like the bing search... and its very usful to me...

Massive drawbacks with this phone

Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support
Confusing user interface
No Facebook contacts sync
No native social network widget
Can't add more home screens
Fuzzy speaker
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera
NO SWYPE
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,

Then don't buy it. Or if you have it, return it. Or ship it to me, I'll take it.
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Ghost volume button issue on most devices
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"Most" devices. How do you know? because people on XDA talk about it? I highly doubt it is "most" devices. You're always going to hear from people with the problem.
No micro sd card support
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Personal preference. I don't mind. Whats it matter? I have an SDcard and haven't removed in it a year and a half.
Confusing user interface
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Its a new version of android. If you're buying this phone you KNOW that its different. If its confusing to you I'm sorry but its of course going to have a learning curve. Are you gonna complain when your other phone gets updated to ICS too? Gonna stay on 2.3 for the rest of your life? Have fun.
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Google has said they'll let Facebook back in when they follow the rules for contact syncing. Its Facebooks job to fix the app.
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But you have specific G+, Twitter, and Facebook widgets.
Can't add more home screens
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Again, personal preference. Every Nexus has had 5. If you want more, add a launcher. And just as a side note, if you're using more than 5 screens, its faster to go to the app drawer than swipe over to a 6th/7th screen.
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Is this really a problem? Again, you're only going to hear from the people who have the problem, not from all the satisfied people
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Small cosmetic issue, again personal preference. Most people are fine with it (and I'm pretty sure you can turn off haptics in the settings).
No digital clock only analog widget
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Download a clock widget from the market. Stock android hasn't ever had a digital clock widget. And the time is in the status bar...
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Who cares about a benchmark score? Need to brag to your friends? All that matters is the device is quick. Its clear that Quadrant hasnt been optimized for ICS.
Lag in many areas
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Its the first phone (and a dev phone) with ICS. Its gonna be slightly off. You know this going in when you buy a Nexus. And again, it depends on whos using it and what they deep acceptable for "lag".
No Facebook events calendar sync
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Refer to the above comment on the Facebook app. Its not Google's fault.
Only 5m camera
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Which has proven to be a very capable camera if you use it right. MP =/= quality.
NO SWYPE
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Not Google's fault, again. Swype needs to be updated for ICS.
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,
THIS DEVICE IS SERIOUSLY ****ALL I DUNNO WHT THE HYPE IS ABOUT.
THE S2 ****s all over it..
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RAGE. Buy a SGSII and shut up.

Also, why did you start a new thread just to copy and paste your whining and add "NO SWYPE"???

viniturb0 said:
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE,
THIS DEVICE IS SERIOUSLY ****ALL I DUNNO WHT THE HYPE IS ABOUT.
THE S2 ****s all over it..
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What a complete and utter troll.

Lame gs2 fanboy. Sounds like he needs an iphone more than anything if he is 'confused'.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
Annnd..i let you win, by replying to this bs

Nice one buddy
I'm just pissed off cos I paid a lot of money
Do u want to buy it? I paid £530 I have a receipt for it
If not its cool I'll return it tomorrow cos of the volume issue

Sorry if I upset u guys but I paid of lot of money that's why I'm pissed off. The volume issue doesn't help u can't hear the other party cos it goes to almost 0

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"Massive"??...thats a strong term to use. Most of your points are either things we already knew or there are other ways to circumvent, so therfore a non-issue. I think you just wanted to make a thread just to be making a thread.
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I've got them all I'm not a fanboy just want stuff to work like it should mate
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viniturb0 said:
I've got them all I'm not a fanboy just want stuff to work like it should mate
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There's nothing wrong with expecting things to work. The problem is that most of the things you are expecting are things that you should have known about or things that never existed or were expected to be implemented.

Seems like OP is one of those average Android users who have not seen what stock Android is.
That's the problem with Manufacturer skins and casual users, take away Touch Wiz or HTC Sense and they're confused as hell.

viniturb0 said:
Sorry if I upset u guys but I paid of lot of money that's why I'm pissed off. The volume issue doesn't help u can't hear the other party cos it goes to almost 0
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You sound like a facebook addicted teenager. You realized that you bought a device that will set the standard for FUTURE software development right? If you want to be at the forefront of android OS, you have to let app developers to catch up. What, do you think facebook knows what will happen with ICS? If you can't live without those apps, go back to a gingerbread device, there are many choices!

I find it funny that you listed low quadrant score as an issue. You should really research about a phone before you buy it, this will inform you about the hardware limitations such as no sd card support or 5 mp camera before you take the plunge of purchasing the device.
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viniturb0 said:
Ghost volume button issue on most devices
No micro sd card support - this will always be an issue. The first 2 didn't have it, why would you think the 3rd one will. Galaxy Nexus has always been a developer phone so its treated differently.
Confusing user interface - From what everyone is saying, they are loving the new interface. It's refreshing and when you get used to it, its hard for people to go back
No Facebook contacts sync
Nexus S 4G had this issue. This isn't a issue with facebook not following a certain protocol that Google requested. and they took it off the Nexus phones. Or they just don't like them because they have their version of a social network
No native social network widget
They do its called google plus. Everything isn't native but 3rd party sources
Can't add more home screens
As much as I have to kinda agree with you in this because its nice to have 7 or more screens, its a dev phone so you knew this was happening long before ICS was announced
Fuzzy speaker
that sucks, but from reviewers they say its quieter but clear
Lock screen vibration can't be switched off
No digital clock only analog widget
Just get another widget that looks better anyways. They never truly had a digital clock worth adding on your home page anyways.
Quadrant benchmark only 1500 score
There have been cases that proven that the GN has scored better on web tests and other tests. Quadrant can be faulty. You are using a gingerbread program on a completely different OS. A bigger jump than eclair to gingerbread. I would compare the Razr scores as the initial breakdown (OMAP4430 vs OMAP4460 in the GN) and use that as your base comparing since Razr runs on Gingerbread
Lag in many areas
No Facebook events calendar sync
Only 5m camera Megapixels shouldn't matter. and Someone has done a camera comparison. The GN is not far off and infact has better low light capabilities than the S2. Once again this is a the same story over again, you knew this going from Nexus S that the camera won't be the best class, the same holds true here.
NO SWYPE - Swype will eventually be available through apk once it is compatible. Google isn't going to put swype on their phones. It's a 3rd party software and its up to other manufacturers to decide if they want it on their android device
THE VOLUME BUG HAS REALLY PUT ME OFF AND SAMSUNG ARE STILL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUE, I feel ya about the volume bug. But thats what it is a bug. This is common for alot of new products, just like never buying the first year of a new model car. But alot of reviewers from publication have not seen this volume bug so it could be something else entirely and should be fixed soon.
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I put my thoughts above.

The volume bug is the only one that is severe. I don't mean to be rude, but the rest is just plain ... ignorant.
Quadrant is an accurate benchmark? It is appalling unreliable.
Megapixels is a measure of camera quality?
I'd return in your position.

What a waste, there are so many people drooling over that phone and can't yet get it...then we have to see this!
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What a waste, there are so many people drooling over that phone and can't yet get it...then we have to see this!
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if this' gonna be that kinda party i'm gonna stick my di** in the mashed potatoes! ;D

Dude, you lost me when you listed Quadrant....are you for real?

voxigenboy said:
if this' gonna be that kinda party i'm gonna stick my di** in the mashed potatoes! ;D
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Wait. You dint realize... uh nm.
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