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Windows Mobile 7 to get public debut next month

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!
fOUND THIS ON MSN!
According to a Microsoft executive, we are set to see the latest version of Microsoft's mobile operating system – the much-hyped Windows Mobile 7 – finally unveiled to the great unwashed at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next month.
It is hardly the most surprising news, as many mobile industry punters were secretly hoping to see the new mobile operating system being shown off by Microsoft at CES this month. But that clearly did not come to be.
Mobile World Congress launch
Entertainment and Devices Division president Robbie Bach claimed that Windows Mobile 7 "things will be talked about at MWC" at the company's Financial Analyst meeting at CES.
"I've seen it and played with it. It will set the bar forward not in (just) an evolutionary way," added Bach.
Bach went on to add that Microsoft plans to be "more engaged" with OEMs in its "go to market approach."
Microsoft clearly hopes to change the shifting emphasis away from Windows Mobile to Apple's iPhone and Google's Android with the latest version of its mobile operating system. We are looking forward to bringing you all the news from the ground in Barcelona next month.
FLYBOY

Sounds good. I'll keep my eyes open! Thanks for info.

I just really hope that Microsoft knows that if this is WM7 is not earth-shatteringly epoch-making, then they are almost all but screwed in the mobile market, and will get torn up. I have been a winmo supporter, but with all thid screwing around recently, it's hard to be optimistic. Most winmo oems are now 50/50 w. android.

Since WM 7 will not be trying to support millions of "older" users from 3 different systems I have high hopes for what MS will be unveiling. I truly feel they can get it done and give us a complete system that functions well, is easy to use and visually stimulating. Why do I feel this? They have done it with Windows 7 and proven it may take a long time, but they can do something "right" for this current generation.
If not - I must agree that they will be dead in the water concerning mobile phones.
Thank you for the updates Flyboy.

YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!

kholk said:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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YAY!!!!! Too... from another HD2 owner

Even better - maybe the TMobile USA version of the HD2 will come with Mobile 7. Now that would be a coup!

Yes, this info helps the sale of HTC HD2. but just a nut behind Iphone. WM7 will be a geek's toy, and it's all.

kholk said:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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i have to dampen your expectations, but remember 6.5? ANNOUNCED in feb. at this MWC, released in oct.
most sources report wm7 will be released q4 2010.

Guys, he never said it would be released.
Just a public debut, probably a walkthrough of nice new features and other such stuff. Don't get your hopes up about ROM's.

It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...

rajivshahi said:
It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
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a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.

Lazy79 said:
a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
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totally agree with you...really hope that it would be next month. Can't wait to show off to iPhone or android (if only it can)
Microsoft come on, claim back your title in mobile market!!

Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.

Don't forget the latest news of Xbox Live coming to Windows Phone (probably WM7 only)!
http://kotaku.com/5445100/xbox-live-officially-heading-for-mobile-phones?skyline=true&s=i

Should i be happy that i will be able to upgrade my HTC VIVA when Win 7 comes, or just see you guys celebrate with faster CPUs ?

Not sure I understand that question right but I dont see why people would want to try to hack WM7 to run on anything older than a HD2, it would be like trying to run Windows Vista (yup not even 7) on an old 486 200 MHz Computer
Im guessing given the minimum spec that even if it did run you would have to turn off so much of the fancy stuff that it wouldnt be worth it in the end.
Thats why 6.5.3 etc is there, to update older phones.

hasseye said:
Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
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WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.

Triphazard said:
WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
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i understand the reason of 6.5.3/.3 and 7....
my point was, if they developed and changed 6.5 to 6.5.3.3 i personally doubt there just going to ignore it and introduce wm7 at some of these conferences, one/some/all of these conferences are gonna have to introduce the latest 6.5

IMO 6.5.3 = 6.5
The differences aren't THAAAT much. What has changed? Start menu gone to bottom. Small fix in the OS, big results for the user experience. A few very sloppy apps aren't working properly anymore but WFT?? After all not much has changed so I don't think they need to announce it once more.
They'll introduce WM 7!

Breaking! - winmo 7 is not based on wince at all

CASE SOLVED, GO HERE OR LOOK AT PAGE 13
NOTE: Typo in poll, CE 7.0, NOT 6.0
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1

Don't mean to be harsh, and thanks for informing the community,
but... so what? if it were true, why would it be a bad thing?

Why a bad thing?
Maybe because all our programs will become a unusable piece of ce code?

jfrm said:
Why a bad thing?
Maybe because all our programs will become a unusable piece of ce code?
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Exactly. Cab files and all that would be a thing of the past and we'd all have to start over from square 1 and re-learn everything.
dwizzy130

How about not being able to use all those apps you may have purchased that are based on CE. (Unless of a compatibility feature/how'd that work with vista? lol) May have to wait till software developer creates new version (if they decide to port).

I seriously don't doubt that in this case there will be some compatibility functionality. It just would not make sense business-wise if microsoft didn't, so I still don't see why it's a bad thing...

Survey says....... thats a lie.
how do I know?
Simple, we would've seen OEM software i.e. HTC, LG, Samsung leak something totally unfamiliar to us.
WM7 rumors get crazier by the year.

Unless Microsoft has suddenly turned into Apple, they will provide backwards compatibility.

vetvito said:
Survey says....... thats a lie.
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I'm with you in that survey.lol
dwizzy130

Badwolve1 said:
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1
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Please, give us more information if you can. Because if that is true, then it would confirm a very interesting theory that I thought about, based on things I've heard.
So please, try to find out more! Most important, try to find out information about the next CE based version (WM6.6?).
EDIT: By the way, I think this is in the wrong forum, shouldn't it be in General?

As far as I know, WM7 will be based on CE7. That means we'll need new bootloaders etc. There's also some stuff that seems to point to CE5.2 (WM5+) code not running on the CE7 base (the CE6 Zune HD things won't run on CE5.2 and I think the reverse is true), but I heard there was an emulation layer much like the way you can run programs in XP mode on W7.

CE7
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#

Given that the memory model changed in CE6 and that WinMo 7 apparently has a HAL (http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12103) it's likely that a lot of CE5.2 apps won't run on WinMo 7
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if apps built in .NET CF can simply be recompiled to run on WinMo 7 - it would be very unlike Microsoft to not provide some sort of backwards compatibility

Ut0p1a said:
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#
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Thats Schaps project. He has been working on it for a while, and looks like he is back...!

Ut0p1a said:
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#
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Nope.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411836

Theres a wm7 wince 5.2 bsp thats all i can say =]

Badwolve1 said:
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1
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Can't be true at all. The major advantage MS currently has in mobile segment is its vast application base. MS won't like commit a suicide by deciding to make WM7 not backward compatible.
WinCE has been around since ages now, by dumping WinCE, MS will lose it's market share in mobile/embedded devices sector. And if they are continuing with WinCE, then why not using it in their mobile OS, instead of creating a new kernel from the scratch.
Unless MS has decided to make PC and Mobile software compatible to each other natively.

Intresting...but I am calling it fake news..

the0ne said:
Intresting...but I am calling it fake news..
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+1
This shouldn't be called news unless it is really news! it can be called a rumor at best
WM7 is still a mystery, i have heared it will be based on Silverlight but who knows! i know MVPs who don't know anything about it. MS is NOT and i repeat NOT allowing anything to be leaked!
30 days 4 hours 4 minutes left till Windows Mobile 7.
http://msmobiles.com/wm7.php

anaadoul said:
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This shouldn't be called news unless it is really news! it can be called a rumor at best
WM7 is still a mystery, i have heared it will be based on Silverlight but who knows! i know MVPs who don't know anything about it. MS is NOT and i repeat NOT allowing anything to be leaked!
30 days 4 hours 4 minutes left till Windows Mobile 7.
http://msmobiles.com/wm7.php
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Look here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8902.html
dwizzy130

Tilt 2 and WM 7 ?

Hello everyone. Can I have some expert opinion please? Do we think that the tilt 2 which was just released last Oct. and I just got mine last week, will be able to support windows mobile 7? Do we think that AT&T will upgrade the OS when it comes out? Being and owner of win mo phones since the 8125 first came out, I know how slow AT&T is to release updated OS's.

This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...

I'm not an expert at all...
But it seems like it's one thing for W7 to be somehow cooked to run on the TP2, but another thing for it to run well, without excessive lag (for example).

ohyeahar said:
This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
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This is a great point. Whenever someone dares to mention WinMo7 on the TP2, you get flamed and the spec impossibilities yelled at your face. But exactly my point about what people said "couldn't" be done!

It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not

sukru said:
It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
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The Zune OS is based off of the Windows CE kernel, which is also the base for Windows Mobile, so there wouldn't be complete incompatibility as some of the false rumors lead you to believe. There are a lot of blatantly false rumors floating around on even the most respected WM sites, so take every unconfirmed rumor you read about WM 7 with a grain of salt.
Though I would love Windows Mobile 7 on the Touch Pro2, I have to say that it's pretty unlikely it'll happen. First, to everyone who gives the example of WM6 running on WM5 devices and WM6.5 running on WM 6.x/5.x devices, the reason this is easy is because all these operating systems (WM5-WM6) run the same Windows CE 5.2 kernel. It's a lot easier to backport an OS when it uses the same kernel. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be based off Windows CE 6 or 7, and it'll likely take a hell of a lot of low-level work to get WM7 on the Pro2.
If you don't believe me, look in this thread at PPCGeeks, where some of the most technical people discuss this issue in more detail. It seems to me that we'll need a new everything, from the SPL and bootloader to new hardware drivers (since it's extremely unlikely that WM7 will support the Qualcomm MSM series considering the rumored WM 6.5.x and WM 7 coexistance scheme, where only 6.5 supports lower end devices and hardware like the MSM series).
I'm not saying I don't want WM 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, but I am trying to be realistic here, so I'm gonna say it's likely no to WM 7 on the Pro2.

one guy from htc russia announced WM7 minimal requirements: 8Gb onboard, CPU1GHz,FM, 5Mpx,compass,G-sensor,3,6",WVGA.
but of course its not true

My Universal (2005) came with wm5!
Then upgraded to wm6, then to wm6.1 and I got it working with wm6.5
I´m sure the great chefs here will manage something so we can have wm7 for sure!

Windows Phone OS 7 Guides [Development::Architecture::Customization]

Some additional information about Windows Phone OS 7. These guides cover technical information about the new OS consisting of
Download the documents here
- Application Development Guide
The OEM and MO Application Guide for WP7 provides guidance on developing applications for a Windows Phone.
- WP7 Architecture Guide
The Architecture Guide provides fundamental technical information about WP7. It serves as a roadmap to the components and core fundamentals of the WP7 architecture.
- WP7 Customization Guide
The Customization Guide for WP7 provides information about customizing the user interface and other system functionality.
Have fun reading, thanks to Tom Codon.

Thanks. Do you have a linkable source?
Casey

Casey_boy said:
Thanks. Do you have a linkable source?
Casey
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That would be post #1

love all the info you guys are digging up... keep em coming... now any one got a spyshot for the HTC Mondrian

The architecture article must be very outdated. It tells about CE6, but afaik, CE6 has been replaced by CE7 during development.

It says "Ferburary 2010".

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It says "Ferburary 2010".
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Yeah so that's the weird thing about it.

vangrieg said:
It says "Ferburary 2010".
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I was reading some of the architecture guide and some way down it says something(cant remember what) will be ready for the end of 2009.
So I think that it was written in late 2009 for feb 2010. Also some of the information has been changed like it says one one of the guides that you can have external storage which we know MS was now removed.

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The architecture article must be very outdated. It tells about CE6, but afaik, CE6 has been replaced by CE7 during development.
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I believe someone is MS has said it is based on CE6 with features of CE7 added, so its probably somewhere between the two.
MS probably did this as CE7 was not finalised when the started making WP7 so they used CE6 and added features of CE7 that was being made for CE7 by the CE team (dont know what department makes the CE stuff).
I expect that MS could update to the full version of CE7 with a system update (I expect MS to have a major update each year like apple does).

Im not sure if anyone outside of MS knows the answer to this question but would like your views on what you think the answer could be.
I the Customization guide it say that OEM can only add 6 apps that together are no larger that 60mb.
So can a company this Asus who make the Garmin-Asus phones make a wp7 handset with the satnav built-in? (this would be a lot larger than 60mb)

Maps can be a separate download.

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I believe someone is MS has said it is based on CE6 with features of CE7 added, so its probably somewhere between the two.
MS probably did this as CE7 was not finalised when the started making WP7 so they used CE6 and added features of CE7 that was being made for CE7 by the CE team (dont know what department makes the CE stuff).
I expect that MS could update to the full version of CE7 with a system update (I expect MS to have a major update each year like apple does).
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This is what I heard too.

Ganondolf said:
I believe someone is MS has said it is based on CE6 with features of CE7 added, so its probably somewhere between the two.
MS probably did this as CE7 was not finalised when the started making WP7 so they used CE6 and added features of CE7 that was being made for CE7 by the CE team (dont know what department makes the CE stuff).
I expect that MS could update to the full version of CE7 with a system update (I expect MS to have a major update each year like apple does).
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Da_G explained it in a previous thread.

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Da_G explained it in a previous thread.
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I was speaking about the quote from the microsoft guy, as i feel his explanation of why there is confusion if its CE6 or CE7 is better for us to get a understanding of the situation.
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yes but that would mean that we would have to download a gig or so of maps to the handset or zune software after purchase.
Also does anyone know how big a satnav software is without the maps and voices as i still think it would be large and the OEM only has a cobined total of 60mb for all 6 apps.

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I was speaking about the quote from the microsoft guy, as i feel his explanation of why there is confusion if its CE6 or CE7 is better for us to get a understanding of the situation.
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Right but it's rather unlikely that MS would ship WP7 with a pre-production OS. It just wouldn't really make much sense. What Da_G said, and I agree with, is that MS will likely RTM both at the same time (or close). MS has talks planned at their Tech Ed conference next month on things like "WEM308 | Windows Embedded Overview: Demos of the Latest and Upcoming Releases". They haven't announced CE7 but it sounds like they will before then or at TechEd.

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Right but it's rather unlikely that MS would ship WP7 with a pre-production OS. It just wouldn't really make much sense. What Da_G said, and I agree with, is that MS will likely RTM both at the same time (or close). MS has talks planned at their Tech Ed conference next month on things like "WEM308 | Windows Embedded Overview: Demos of the Latest and Upcoming Releases". They haven't announced CE7 but it sounds like they will before then or at TechEd.
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This could be true but its best to remember that CE is not the WP7 OS but only the code the OS is built on so its very possible they could release the WP7 OS like it is now (CE6 + extra code) and then add extra code later (Full CE7).
In the end i dont think it will make a lot of difference to the end user as if they change it to full CE7 they wont have enough time to add the features launch so the added code wont change anything to the next update (around a year later if they go the apple route).
We will have to wait and see what code the finished launch roms use.

I believe Windows Phone 7 is actually based on the Windows CE 6 core with custom add-ons. This would make sense as CE7 is not reached RTM yet and from a development perspective it wouldn't be good to base your new Phone experience on an unfinished base OS. It would also make synchronization of the development between the two teams very complicated.

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Right but it's rather unlikely that MS would ship WP7 with a pre-production OS. It just wouldn't really make much sense. What Da_G said, and I agree with, is that MS will likely RTM both at the same time (or close). MS has talks planned at their Tech Ed conference next month on things like "WEM308 | Windows Embedded Overview: Demos of the Latest and Upcoming Releases". They haven't announced CE7 but it sounds like they will before then or at TechEd.
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I wouldn't put it past them. They shipped Windows ME with a late beta build of IE5.5. While I hope they do it right from the start, it also wouldn't surprise me if they rely on that Microsoft-controlled update service a lot in order to get WP7 out the door so they can continue development and update the OS between the time it RTM's and carriers begin selling the phones to consumers. And don't get me wrong, I can't wait for WP7 regardless. Barring some major setback, I am 95% sure I will be in line to pick up a WP7 phone during the first weeks of its release.

Sorry but that is incorrect, CE7 is due to RTM in July, with WP7 due to RTM in October. That is why they are using it now... Its to make sure the CE7 core is bedded down properly, which should help with perf moving forward.
The core is and has always been CE7.

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so what your trying to say is that Microsoft was wrong when they said it is using CE6+ added bits from CE7 and you are right lol.

Windows Embedded Compact 7 (CE7) released!

Microsoft officially unveiled WinCE7 which is widely believed to be the core of Windows Phone 7. Not only that, but they made a CTP download available. To grab it go to https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/non-feedback, find the "Windows Embedded Compact" product and click apply (it will automatically accept you). This is just a CTP and the product is expected to RTM Q4 of this year.
Hopefully this will help out the WP7 porting/hacking process.

oooh damn 8017 mb lol

thanks for notifying!

Been waiting for this, the headers will have alot of good stuff we need to push WP7 dev up Downloading!

Da_G said:
Been waiting for this, the headers will have alot of good stuff we need to push WP7 dev up Downloading!
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i also saw this earlier and thought it might help porting...

\WINCE700\platform\common\src\common\bldr\inc\bootdownloadbinformat.h appears to contain the structure of a flash.store.bin, but it's the same one i've looked at before, and doesn't match up with the one in the mondrian nbh, argh

RustyGrom said:
Microsoft officially unveiled WinCE7 which is widely believed to be the core of Windows Phone 7. Not only that, but they made a CTP download available. To grab it go to https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/non-feedback, find the "Windows Embedded Compact" product and click apply (it will automatically accept you). This is just a CTP and the product is expected to RTM Q4 of this year.
Hopefully this will help out the WP7 porting/hacking process.
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I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users

joe_coolish said:
I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649911

Get going Da_G, we need it rapidly.

joe_coolish said:
I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users
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Indeed, the architecture documents do specifically say CE6.0.

im not progammer but i have this i duno how to use could someone help me ?

Proz00 said:
im not progammer but i have this i duno how to use could someone help me ?
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Try to MS Site, my friend

One thing I noticed after too much poking through this with a fine tooth comb,
The reason the Emulator files were marked ARMv4I Thumb in the PE headers even though they contain x86 code, is that ARMv4I Thumb is a fallback for "unknown" CPU type. I found it peculiar initially because there is a discreet "i386" value. I would guess MS has it marked somewhere as "emulated x86" rather than "i386"

hey
someone success to make NK.bin that work on qemu ?
its give me error
jumping to 0xXXXXXX somthing and halted

We are everyday nearer to the release of WP 7 , may be more leak will surface, cross our finger ... i cant help much, keep going guys...

Unless you are a good programmer, who can build a custom shell, and pick the right windows components to include in a package, there is absolutely ZERO use with this for the public.
It is a bare bones building block version of windows, which you could put on a tablet or smaller device, with a non x86 or x64 processor as well as those two kinds, which you can build your app, or shell ontop of.

Hi. i assume it is not coincidence that ctp was release in july (?) and it took just about those 5 months for wp7 hd2 dft release? and then there is of course this:
http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg
so this is the starting point hey . I am getting ce7 up along with riff box jtag, ida pro, and few other tools. I may be crazzzy but really want to get this new bldr +- oal +- nk.exe to strap up (onto- ie ce7 as quasi-firmware) a ntoskrnl.exe build.
I have win(nt) source.