For various reasons I am stuck with AT&T. I could list but I won't waste your time.
I want an android phone so I can write my own apps. I am a java developer and I have spent some time with the android SDK and I like it and it fits what I am doing. Bla Bla Bla. The new motorola phone is not yet rooted. It also looks a little under powered, although I like the funky form factor.
Is the HTC Tilt 2 a good choice? It appears there is a rom from this site that I can load on the Tilt 2 and it will work for the most part? Android 2.1?
I see someone just got wi-fi going on this phone. What will and will not work work with this rom?
Can I purchase the Tilt 2 from At&t and have 3g and voice work on their network?
Thanks for any and all advice!
-Mark
mcg1103 said:
For various reasons I am stuck with AT&T. I could list but I won't waste your time.
I want an android phone so I can write my own apps. I am a java developer and I have spent some time with the android SDK and I like it and it fits what I am doing. Bla Bla Bla. The new motorola phone is not yet rooted. It also looks a little under powered, although I like the funky form factor.
Is the HTC Tilt 2 a good choice? It appears there is a rom from this site that I can load on the Tilt 2 and it will work for the most part? Android 2.1?
I see someone just got wi-fi going on this phone. What will and will not work work with this rom?
Can I purchase the Tilt 2 from At&t and have 3g and voice work on their network?
Thanks for any and all advice!
-Mark
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From what I understand those ports are still not 100% ported over. I was just recently at ATT store and was told by the end of this month or the begining of next ATT will be getting there first android phone. so if its possible you might want to wait a lil while.
As for 3g service working on other carriers... again from what I understand and some personal experience this is not possible at least between ATT and t-mobile... They use diferent bands for there 3g service. and im sure you know ATT is GSM which means they are not compatible with Verizon or sprint.
The HTC Desire ( HTC branded Nexus One ) is slated for AT$T, that is what I am waiting for.
I would be patient and not lock myself into new contract. As stated above, Android on WM is just a port and always will be and will never be a fast or smooth or as fully featured as a phone running Android natively. As you are testing new apps, you will always be determining whether it is indeed the app that is buggy or the app running on a ported version of Android that is the problem.
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For the past few days, I've been running an HTC Vogue on Sprint, Android installed to nand. I really like it, but I'd also like wifi. Sprint will allow me to upgrade to the HTC Touch Pro II w/o forcing me to change to a pricey "Everything" plan.
I gather that Android on the Pro2 is not production level yet, with problems like no ringtones, etc. However, is Android development for the Pro2 moving forward at a steady pace?
While Android on the device is being sorted out, can WM handle Google Voice, tethering, acting as a wifi hotspot?
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For the past few days, I've been running an HTC Vogue on Sprint, Android installed to nand. I really like it, but I'd also like wifi. Sprint will allow me to upgrade to the HTC Touch Pro II w/o forcing me to change to a pricey "Everything" plan.
I gather that Android on the Pro2 is not production level yet, with problems like no ringtones, etc. However, is Android development for the Pro2 moving forward at a steady pace?
While Android on the device is being sorted out, can WM handle Google Voice, tethering, acting as a wifi hotspot?
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Well you can safely assume that Android will never run perfectly on the TP2, because it was specifically built for other hardware. Although the development is going really well, and alot of bugs are being solved, I wouldn't count on it that Android will be running perfectly anytime soon.
atticus182 said:
Well you can safely assume that Android will never run perfectly on the TP2, because it was specifically built for other hardware. Although the development is going really well, and alot of bugs are being solved, I wouldn't count on it that Android will be running perfectly anytime soon.
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Thanks for the feedback. I wouldn't assume perfection in any case The same level of performance as the Vogue would be awesome though.
While Android on the device is being sorted out, can WM handle Google Voice, tethering, acting as a wifi hotspot?
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
To answer your questions, yes, we will be able to upgrade to Android 2.3 and 3.0. The best thing about this device is the dev support. Even if T-Mobile didn't push an official update, the devs will always produce custom roms. If you go off of the life of the G1, the G2 will be around for a decent amount of time.
convolution said:
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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If your on contract your normally upgrade to the next big thing every two years, but the G1 still has dev support and it is a few months over 2 years albiet that might die off soon with gingerbread...
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Did you have a g1? How better is the g2 on g1 and did you know g1 just had a froyo update last month.
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I had a g1. The g2 blows it out of the water. It took me a while to actually play with the g2. Once I did I started realizing that the old was slow, out dated, and is hindering the new android experence.
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G2 will have dev's working on it for a long long time yet, however there is a chance that any android higher than 3.0 will require better/different hardware, we just won't know until closer to its release, which is a long way off anyway.
I wouldn't concern myself about it. The developer support will always be there - and personally I'd much rather rely on good developer support than support from your service provider...
As far as hardware... No way in telling. With dual-core processors around the corner its hard to say what future Android OS's will require but being that 'TRUE' Android is simple and efficient, I would think that the G2 will be able to keep up. (Remember people are clocking this baby upwards of 1.8GHZ)
I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!
androidcues said:
I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!
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Yea... if google doesn't decide to kill him off that is...
haha j/k
G2 will be good for quite some time. Who knows maybe the g3 will be first with honeycomb. Lol
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If my G1 still worked, I'd still be using it.
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convolution said:
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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It isn't supported anymore better go buy the Nexus S or wait for the G3 in 2 years
Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.
Hypercore said:
Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
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I do believe its because alot of the dev's are waiting on their phones to arrive. The phone just got released by mail,(not in stores yet). So I think as they start to get their phones we will see more roms popping up. I am rooted but I have yet to flash a rom. I am still running stock.. I am waiting for a bigger selection.
yea you are going to have to wait i would say about 1/8 of the people who want the phone have one. I got lucky when getting mine.
So basically the developers are waiting for their phones to arrive so they can start work on building custom ROMs?
That makes sense, thanks for the reply. Can't wait until I can unleash the potential of this beast.
yes, you gotta think the international version has been out for a min. now, and didnt have to deal with nearly as many shortages due to supply and demand kinda of deal. Here we have shortages all across just about every carrier. Some people got their phones, others are waiting until their pre orders come, some are waiting until they are sold in stores, I give it a few more weeks, maybe even a month and we will all get our fix of ROMS, im definitely excited on how they will get them to work across the major carriers here.
The default behavior for the icons on AT&T is as follows:
E = Edge
3G = 3G area, should be almost nowhere in the states anyway
4G = HSPA+, or 3.5G or whatever you want to call it.
4Glte = LTE network
Of course any custom ROM can change those, and you'll need to make sure you have the proper APN settings for your carrier.
Hope that helps,
Hypercore said:
Just bought a North American Galaxy S3 with LTE and the AT&T section has basically nothing in terms of ROMs. The International forum has many, many more. Why is that?
Is there something developers are waiting for so they can start making ROMs?
Also, wouldn't it be smarter to rename the AT&T Development forum to "AT&T and Rogers Development"? It was quite confusing for me when I was first looking for the forum.
One last question. If I were to flash the kyanROM or the Ultimatun ROM, would it display "4G" instead of "LTE"? The stock Rogers ROM displays LTE. I just upgraded from the HTC One XL and they had the same setup, always the same as the AT&T model but all the ROMs had the 4G symbol instead of LTE.
Thanks for reading, and thank you in advanced for your answers.
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Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!
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Excited for some custom ROMs to start showing up in the coming weeks! Running CM9 on my I9000 right how and can't stand touchwiz!
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I'm not a touchwiz fan either, but when I use a 3rd party launcher (e.g. Nova Prime, Apex, Go Launcher) it removes most of the annoying things imho.
I am working on a rom myself, though it is more difficult since none of the windows based tools function well at all for ICS 4.0.4 TW based stuff. I could install a VM of Linux but I don't have the time for that right now. I will get around to it.
Don't worry you guys will get tons of ROM's soon. Same thing happened with the I777 .GS2, started really slow then they blew up.
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Most people just started receiving there phones and working on custom roms. If you itching to flash try working on your own rom i did and its very unstable but I'm getting there. It require more time then i thought. We should be good on roms in a few weeks.
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Can you install windows os on an HTC ONE M8 that has android/htc sense OS?
currently, no..who knows what the future might bring
You mean convert to HTC one w8? I bet we can soon
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A Windows Phone variant with the exact same specs is coming to T-Mobile. Duel boot has all but been confirmed.
Not sure if it is the same, I remember you always had to install windows before Linux when duel booting, the question is where there be a ROM that can be installed on the android version.
I am seriously ready to go to the store now and get the m8. My 4 month jump plan was ready a few months ago actually. The note 4 has been announced and I think "meh" sums it up. I'm just as good keeping the 3.
I don't use nor have stylus apps on my note 3, just love the specs. The ability to duel boot is something I'd leave Sammy for. There has been almost nothing about the actual process or ability to do so, but there sure is quite a few asking about its possibility.
I've spent to much to just leave android. It would be nice if someone who knew the challenges well could outline what needs to be overcome and in their opinion on how long it could be till we can duel boot.
I have the early version of the jump plan. I don't have to have half the value paid off. Every 4 months, new device, but the note... Love it. Not leaving for a windows device that is sub par. And they really all are right?
I'll be waiting!
Hey XDA Dev community! So I happen to have an old, but completely mint!, Droid Incredible 2 from when I first purchased it from Verizon back in 2011. I no longer use Verizon and switched to T-Mobile and now using a Z3. Anyways, birthdays are coming up soon and i'd like to hand my Incredible 2 down to my younger brother as a gift. BUT, of course as you all figured, there is a slight problem: the ADR6350 is SIM locked, running Android ver. 2.3.4 with HTC Sense ver. 2.1 basically bare bones stock stuck in the year 2011. So I'm trying to figure out if this handset can be upgraded to today's standards (at least ICS 4.00) rooted and unlocked. I'm definitely not wanting to use Verizon so I'm leaning towards T-Mobile prepaid. I'm trying to trick this little handset out for the little guy as I think the ADR6350 is still a half decent starter cell. So is it possible to get this cell up and running without Verizon's chains? I really hope so! because i'd hate to leave this perfect, more than capable, cell in a box for 5 more years to only be a shiny paperweight.. Please help! Walk me through step by step as I am a newb with cell rooting ect. (hence the S/N) But please, only proven stable mods or Roms though!
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PM if you need hardware/software/IMEI #'s
THANKS!!!