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Just got my new Sprint HTC Diamond Touch.
Here are the specs right out of the box:
WM 6.1 Build 19965.1.2.3
ROM 1.09.651.5
ROM date August 8, 2008
Radio Version 1.00.00f
Here is what I have noticed immediately:
1. Battery life is very short, even off of full charge. Battery gets hot.
2. unit is sometimes sluggish in opening applications.
3. unit does not ring immediately as call is delivered. Caller will hear 3 rings, I will hear one.
Are there any suggestions as how to resolve any of these issues?
I have read several threads but have no idea as to which cooked roms would work on my phone and with which radio versions would work in the sprint network. I am in the US. I am interested in tweaks, but again, I am not how to proceed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks is advance.
Check out this forum. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=67
There are alot of sprint users there and plenty of updated roms to flash to your phone that will make it perform MUCH better.
Thanks for the info.
Seems like the Ivan1 rom is pretty stable.
I am still figuring out how to actually do the process.
But I see that there is plenty of info on how to do so.
Ivan's looks pretty good, but dont forget Juicy or Mighty roms. There's are the most popular. I'm running the JuicyRom 3.2 right now and works awesome.
Juicy roms are good but the latest roms don't support some of the sprint specific features. Stuff like sprint t.v. etc... Probably not a big deal but something to consider if you are a sprint user.
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Juicy roms are good but the latest roms don't support some of the sprint specific features. Stuff like sprint t.v. etc... Probably not a big deal but something to consider if you are a sprint user.
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Juicy's latest rom now works with sprintTV. He fixed it. Not sure about the other sprint stuff you're talkin about though.
I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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Android is a very nice OS with a lot of functionality. Haven't used it beyond basic usage, but it seems very responsive. If you like the android look at this option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578071
i'm testing it right now on my tp2 i'll let you know my thoughts.
rsmith675 said:
I wanted to buy the tilt 2/Rhodium but now since windows phone 7 is ditching basically every phone on the market and really the progress of android on the Rhodium isnt as far along as my Kaiser yet (which is understandable)and ive pretty much seen all there is to see with Winmo6.5.5 on my Fuze should i just wait until android is a little more funtional on the rhodium or wait until the At&t android devices come out later this year
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It all depends on what you want out of your phone. For me personally, I really like a full keyboard plus a touch screen. From what I've seen, WP7 is just a touch screen and no keyboard. Also, the whole layout of everything does not look that enticing to me. But that's just my opinion, like I said, it's just whatever fits your needs.
I would personally wait to see atleast more detail on WP7S. MIX is this month, which will give a clearer picture for developers and thus what 3rd party applications and hubs are gonna be like. Also you should see more hardware prototypes, like the LG that did have a keyboard (so that shouldn't be a concern).
Then if you decide to get a Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2, the deals should be better. Or honestly you would probably prefer to move to an OS that will be supported in the future, regardless of it is Android or WP7S. There should be several WP7S devices to choose from in the Holidays. Atleast 2 (one with and one without keyboard) from HTC, and atleast one from LG, Samsung, and SonyEricsson.
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Android is a very nice OS with a lot of functionality. Haven't used it beyond basic usage, but it seems very responsive. If you like the android look at this option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578071
i'm testing it right now on my tp2 i'll let you know my thoughts.
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let me know how this turns out?
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let me know how this turns out?
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I really like it up until I flip it to landscape. starts looking like this:
If I were in your position, I would personally wait for awhile. AT&T typically offers their standard HTC Windows Mobile smartphone with sliding keyboard for a year since its release, so you should have until around mid-October 2010 before they'll stop stocking it, and you can still buy it for awhile after then until they completely sell all their inventory. If you don't like the other Android devices on AT&T, you can still buy the Tilt2. If you buy the Tilt2 now, you'll still have to deal with Windows Mobile for awhile since porting takes a long time for a fully working build, and even longer for a native ROM. So unless you REALLY want a new Tilt2 right now, I'd wait and see if any superior options enter the market beforehand, since you have quite a while before you are stopped from buying the Tilt2.
There's ALWAYS going to be the 'next best thing' right around the corner.
Who knows, maybe WM7 gets delayed a year. Maybe by the time WM7 is out, they've already announced plans for 7.5 or 8.0 or whatever.
My suggestion is ... if you need a phone now, the TP2 is a GREAT option. If you dont need a phone, then wait until a better option comes along and reassess.
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let me know how this turns out?
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I've abandoned the other sense UI, I am now using the following, landscape mode works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
Make sure when you install to keep it on sense UI, i've tried clicking espresso and I got install errors. Haven't tried the Omnia setting on install yet either, I might give it a go later. All of the installs were done on clean SPB 3.5/Win 6.5.
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I've abandoned the other sense UI, I am now using the following, landscape mode works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
Make sure when you install to keep it on sense UI, i've tried clicking espresso and I got install errors. Haven't tried the Omnia setting on install yet either, I might give it a go later. All of the installs were done on clean SPB 3.5/Win 6.5.
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how about Androkkid app....i that good
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how about Androkkid app....i that good
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Have you worked it in landscape mode?
I might give it a go later today, but so far it just doesn't seem as polished as spb + mobile sense.
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Have you worked it in landscape mode?
I might give it a go later today, but so far it just doesn't seem as polished as spb + mobile sense.
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question if i intsall the spb+mobile sense, will i lose my touchflo3d or can i switch back and forth on these apps?
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question if i intsall the spb+mobile sense, will i lose my touchflo3d or can i switch back and forth on these apps?
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androkkid does not support landscape mode either it seems.
If you install both of those there is a program which allows you to switch between all of them. Shell TF3d Titanium switcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602568
For various reasons I am stuck with AT&T. I could list but I won't waste your time.
I want an android phone so I can write my own apps. I am a java developer and I have spent some time with the android SDK and I like it and it fits what I am doing. Bla Bla Bla. The new motorola phone is not yet rooted. It also looks a little under powered, although I like the funky form factor.
Is the HTC Tilt 2 a good choice? It appears there is a rom from this site that I can load on the Tilt 2 and it will work for the most part? Android 2.1?
I see someone just got wi-fi going on this phone. What will and will not work work with this rom?
Can I purchase the Tilt 2 from At&t and have 3g and voice work on their network?
Thanks for any and all advice!
-Mark
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For various reasons I am stuck with AT&T. I could list but I won't waste your time.
I want an android phone so I can write my own apps. I am a java developer and I have spent some time with the android SDK and I like it and it fits what I am doing. Bla Bla Bla. The new motorola phone is not yet rooted. It also looks a little under powered, although I like the funky form factor.
Is the HTC Tilt 2 a good choice? It appears there is a rom from this site that I can load on the Tilt 2 and it will work for the most part? Android 2.1?
I see someone just got wi-fi going on this phone. What will and will not work work with this rom?
Can I purchase the Tilt 2 from At&t and have 3g and voice work on their network?
Thanks for any and all advice!
-Mark
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From what I understand those ports are still not 100% ported over. I was just recently at ATT store and was told by the end of this month or the begining of next ATT will be getting there first android phone. so if its possible you might want to wait a lil while.
As for 3g service working on other carriers... again from what I understand and some personal experience this is not possible at least between ATT and t-mobile... They use diferent bands for there 3g service. and im sure you know ATT is GSM which means they are not compatible with Verizon or sprint.
The HTC Desire ( HTC branded Nexus One ) is slated for AT$T, that is what I am waiting for.
I would be patient and not lock myself into new contract. As stated above, Android on WM is just a port and always will be and will never be a fast or smooth or as fully featured as a phone running Android natively. As you are testing new apps, you will always be determining whether it is indeed the app that is buggy or the app running on a ported version of Android that is the problem.
Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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There have been posts about this. Nobody knows for sure. HTC did say that most of the phones released this year will get 2.2 by the end of the year. They might skip it for Gingerbread (2.5, btw) but nobody knows yet. No worries though. I'm sure when we root this thing we will get AOSP 2.2 installed in no time.
I'm just as excited as you are.
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Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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Not to be a spoilsport here, but I still prefer HTC HD2 cause it has physical buttons. Those touch sensitive ones have proven to be a bit awkward on the Nexus One already. But this phone's good.
Yeah according to Google/HTC (I'm not sure), but there's an article that says that almost all phones release in 2010 will get the 2.2 update. Not sure about the 3.0 one though, I think it's too early
And I'm just as excited about the Evo as all of you are.
Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.
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Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.
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I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.
Sawawa said:
I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.
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Definitely not a stranger to this notion. Before I got my evo I had a hero which had the same issues. I'm just hoping wecan find a way to better work around it.
Would this help?
Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history
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Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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All the more reason to determine how we can update both the Kernel and the OS files independently.
Doesn't Froyo SDK include WiMAX support?
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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I'm completely new to posting in these forums (1st post), but have followed for quite a while.
In response to the above, I want to point out that keishou posted a link to the EVO 4G Developer's Guide which clearly states that the Froyo SDK will contain WiMAX support. Under section 2. 4G-WiMax Network, it says...
// you are on Sprint's 4G network
// ConnectivityManager.Type_WIMAX=6 will be included in Froyo SDK
// Until Type_WIMAX is supported
// you will need to hard-code the value 6
Doesn't this mean that we won't have to worry about WiMAX when flashing Froyo onto the EVO?
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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They didn't "abandon" the headset. There was a software release in between launch and 2.1. Not to mention that 2.1 was only out for 5 months before the Hero got the update. 1 bug fixing update and 1 major release in 7 months? Seems about average for the industry.
Look at the Treo 800w and Treo Pro. They never got an update, and probably never will. That's being abanonded.
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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it doesnt matter if HTC is gonna give us a update really man. we can do a much better job then them. as for HTC abandoning the hero i dont think that was the case. if a handset manufacturer updated the OS on every phone every time Google did they would be ****ing their selves. i think HTC did a ok job of releasing 2.1 for the hero. i mean really we couldve got 1.6, 2.0 or 2.0.1 but all those platforms were short lived. the fact is they have to build binaries to support major platform shifts and it just so happens that 1.5/the hero got caught in that groove. plus on top of it the hero is old news. it has a old ARCH that doesnt support most of the 2.+ APIs. hero doesnt support opengl 2.0 and never will. in a since 2.1 on the hero was kinda pointless. the only way we can get some of the 2.1 goodies is through hacking to get it, leaving the builds unstable and slightly buggy. of course us the tweakers dont care but the users who just buy the phone and wait for official updates do care about that. i mean also official 2.1 hasnt been out all that long either and the hero got it. will the evo see an update? im sure it will. there is no reason it shouldnt.
All of us that will be migrating from the Hero to the Evo have faith in you and the rest of the devs here Toast. You all worked wonders with the Hero and with more capable hardware I am sure you will blow us all away in due time.
fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!
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fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!
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Totally agree with ya on that, but dammit they better bring Darch with them
Seeing as the EVO is one of HTC's flagship devices I can't see it not getting at least two upgrades. For what its worth, based on the fact that the droid is getting 2.2 soon it appears that either google has started to talk to manufacturers better or this upgrade may simply be easier to roll out (of course the droid is vanilla 2.2, but considering how long 2.1 took it's still good news)
Based on the Evo's specs I can't imagine not getting updates until at least (Mind you I'm picking a random number with no basis) Android 4.0 or something. While HTC is slow with updates, that's what XDA is for
Yeah the only froyo you will get is a port from a dev on here. I heard the EVO will not get the official 2.2 for up to three months. Knowing sprint, much longer than that.
2.2 is coming to EVO
http://www.cooltechzone.com/2010/05/25/htc-confirms-htc-evo-4g-android-2-2-froyo-update/ i hope this help guys...i can't wait to get mines on the 4th....
I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
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Honestly, at this time, no. I may be mistaken, but I think porting Ubuntu Touch to phones other than the GNex and N4 might be a ***** within itself, much less getting them halfway functional. But the guy at talk to for this would be @xboxfanj. Dude is a God when it comes to Android.
I would suggest the MIUI ROM floating around the forums for a different Android experience, but I think that build had some issues, mainly data. Not too sure.
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I had a thought the other night, as I was reading up on some tech information. The site had a post discussing the official release of Ubuntu for Phones, so far only available for the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4.
Well, since it's possible to turn the LG Optimus G into a Nexus 4, shouldn't the Nexus 4 Ubuntu ROM work on the LG Optimus G?
I know that it's all easier said than done, but I love the Ubuntu experience and as far as I know there are people that have successfully ran the beta version of Ubuntu Touch on the LG Optimus G, like here for example, but have had problems since the Nexus 4 is technically GSM only, where as the Sprint version of the LG Optimus G is CMDA.
I'm honestly tired of Jellybean, and I am just looking for a whole new mobile experience without really having to blow any more money on a smartphone. I also assume running Ubuntu on my phone would sacrifice accessibility to the play store, which I find strange since Ubuntu is currently ONLY supported for Google's flagship device, the Nexus 4 and of course Google's Galaxy Nexus.
So I guess my main questions are:
Is Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu on a phone the same thing?
And is it possible to run Ubuntu phone OS on the LG Optimus G? Whether it's porting the official Nexus 4 release, or whatever other option there may be. It's probably not worth the hassle, as I've literally dug my Optimus G out of its own grave multiple times (thank you ZVC). But all I really use on my device are the main functions like call, sms, and camera, along with social media, so a lack of games and productivity apps are fine with me.
I'm probably a n00b, considering I didn't do much digging aside from seeing a few people running ubuntu touch on the LGOG succesfully, but most if not all of it dated back to the end of August through mid September, and I know the official release of Ubuntu for the Nexus 4 only dates back a few weeks ago.
tl;dr Is there a way to run Ubuntu, fully functional, on my LGOG (LS970)?
Thanks!
Video of Ubuntu Touch running on Sprint LGOG: www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gRBtMPoAEvU
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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Thanks for the kind words, @iamterence. It really means a lot.
Anyway, to answer the original question: the only major barrier to us having a (mostly) working Ubuntu Phone ROM is the fact that their telephony stack (the part of the OS itself that deals with all phone operations, and communicates with the RIL (Radio Interface Layer), which communicates with your hardware and software radio/modems) does not support CDMA yet. Even if everything device specific is in place, the OS itself does not support CDMA yet, which is possible to fix, but is something that would have to be done by people much smarter than me. Part of the reason that CDMA is not supported is that most of the development of Ubuntu takes place in Europe, which banned CDMA, as it didn't want the competing standards mess we have in the United States, meaning that the core team would be unable to test it and likely wouldn't want to focus on it yet. Verizon is on the Carrier Development Committee, so that should mean we'll get some CDMA support relatively soon (next Spring maybe).
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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I too am interested in this. Sounds like we're pretty much stuck until official CDMA support is rolled in. Hopefully this will happen sooner than later (spring isn't too far away, but sooner would be nice ) I'm not at all trying to pin you down or make you commit to anything, but I am curious if this is something you'd consider taking up when CDMA support does become native? Just curious if I should be hopeful to see Ubuntu Touch on our phone or not. I for one am pretty excited by their OS thus far, at least from the things I've seen. Haven't held one in my hands or anything.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Absolutely. I really like the OS, but can't run it for more than five minutes considering the lack of CDMA, although, I heard from GEEB users that they also don't have service. Not sure why that is, since mako and us use the same radio libraries.
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Very nice. Hopefully things will move along quickly. I also hope that the OS matures at a rapid rate so that it will meet a reasonable user's needs in the near future.
From what I've read/seen, the operating system IS able to boot on our phones, but as xboxfanj said, the lack of cdma support is what kills us. If we were on a gsm network (or once everything moves on to the lte network) , as is the rest of the world, it would hypothetically be non-issue. However, it is still in development preview regardless, so features haven't necessarily been fully implemented. Regardless, I like to break things, so I'm eventually going to see if I can't get it to boot, just to see how it feels if it ever does gain cdma support, or I just happen to eventually upgrade
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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Hey guys, if your still interested, you may want to take a look at my post on dual-booting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48890845
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That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
mobius1484 said:
That was a bit fun having a go on. It definitely feels early in maturity. Hopefully the development community will move it along quickly.
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Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
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Yeah I never got around to messing with the dual boot yesterday but the OS is pretty smooth. Navigation may take a bit to get used to(Im so used to the home and back capacitive buttons) but it does still feel early in maturity. I would like to get a running version of this simply because it's so completely different from our other choices currently. AOSP roms are obviously going to have a lot in common so this would be a nice change.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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I agree about the navigation bit, definitely feels like it will take some getting used to, however I must say that swiping up from the bottom of the screen (brings up the back button and what should be the rest of the navigation ) does seem fairly intuitive for the OS. I am going to miss the home and back buttons being so quick to access. It is certainly the biggest digression from the normal stuff around here. With the fact that it can be dual booted with Android, I think there is a lot of potential down the road for this. Especially since that way users can experience and dabble with it while it gains maturity and has kinks worked out, but a simple reboot takes brings back full functionality. Seems like the best of both worlds honestly.
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Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
HPTesla said:
Yeah I totally agree - and I do like the swiping up bit. It's how I have PIE controls currently enabled. Being able to dual boot in and of itself would be awesome. I would also like this to gain some traction. I can run a full ubuntu desktop on my lgog now(via terminal emulator and androidvnc), its much smoother than my old evo, but still far from perfect. It's funny seeing someones face the first time they see me use GIMP or vlc on my phone. I understand why ubuntu touch/phone is a bigger priority for Canonical though.
EDIT: Just read an article where Mark Shuttleworth (CEO of Canonical) stated that Ubuntu for TV,Tablet and Android will be available in Ubuntu 14.04 (Next LTS version due this April), so hopefully he isn't bsing.
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That's pretty cool running the full desktop. I remember seeing that back when it was announced. I think it would be really neat. I mean it makes a lot of sense to me as phones become increasingly more powerful. It seems like ARM support is still needing some refinement. I've been running xubuntu in a chroot on my Samsung Chromebook. While it does work not everything does as smoothly as x86 and 64 hardware.
Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it. Yeah I can see why Canonical places so much importance on the touch version, I mean the mobile market is exploding.
I really hope the information in your edit comes to pass. Hopefully that means they're focusing on improving ARM support.
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Is androidvnc a VM app? Sounds pretty interesting. I have free access to VMWare for PC, because of my major, but have yet to mess with it.
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VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
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VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing but not the same as VMWare. Think "remote control" for a pc. So basically you use Terminal emulator to install Ubuntu and run it, then you use vnc to remotely control it by connecting to whats running in the terminal. It will bring up the OS when connected. It's meant to control the computer remotely, but in this case it's the only way I know of to use the Ubuntu thats running in the terminal(at least graphically). I have both Oracle Virtualbox and VMWare on my computer because I only use Linux. So if I REALLY need something windows based(Like LGNPST for our phone) I'll use VMWare. The wine frontend for Linux is pretty hit or miss so I never use it(I dont even have it installed anymore), I just load Windows virtually. Normally I use WindowsXP on Virtualbox but LGNPST doesnt play well with Virtualbox(USB isnt handled the same way as VMWare).
If you see an app in the play store called Complete Linux Installer, that's what it does. It installs the ARM version of Ubuntu(or whatever distro you pick), then runs it in terminal emulator. But to see the GUI you then have to log in via AndroidVNC(or a similar VNC program, only ever used AndroidVNC though).
EDIT: I forgot to mention that their are some other requirements, like a kernel that supports loopback devices.
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Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
mobius1484 said:
Oh okay, actually can't say I've ever heard of that before. Sounds pretty interesting really. I always love tinkering with things. Honestly I need to spend more time in Linux so I can become a CLI ninja master. I originally added it to my chromebook so I could use Open/Libre Office for when I needed a more complete experience for things like papers which are a bit hellish to format properly in GDrive (one of its weakest aspects honestly). Does the stock CM11 kernel have the loop back support? Is it much work to remote in? I've only used Chrome remote before.
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Yeah cm11 kernel should. My experience has been that most non stock kernels should have it. And by non stock I mean the exact kernel that came with your device, both the lgog and my old evo wouldnt support loopback until I either flashed something like CM or in the case of my lgog flashed viper kernel(still running stock). It's not hard to do at all, but if you want the easiest quickest method here is the play store link for Complete Linux Installer. Even the free version has step by step instructions on what you need and how to use it. It will also download some of the distro images for you thru the app. They are big images obviously so Wifi is recommended.
On Canada E973 post they have rom for ubuntu touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600702
[ROM] Ubuntu Touch [Jan-8-2014]
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