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UK User Desire or N1?

Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.

Why do you NEED the latest software on the device? Bragging rights?
I went from an HD2 to a Desire and it's the best decision I ever made! Sense is better than on the HD2 - working out of the box - and bar A2SD (which I've added on a custom ROM) there's nothing you need 2.2 for...I'd get the Desire and wait for 2.2 to be released - N1 hardware is a bit pap and trackballs have a habbit of going wrong
This is my own view though

I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1

the reason i look to the N1
is because like soulja i feel the Desire is receiving updates later than the N1. Froyo is a clear example. the N1 has it already. but the Desire is going to get it with no date set. my concern is the supporr HTC will offer in future, because of SenseUI. im concerned that the modding, updates will not be as good or regular.
the reason the HD2 is going is because the app market is naff, and app support is failing as everyone is waiting for WM7.
I need a phone i can fiddle with.

Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo

Sounds like you already set on the n1 but decide to enter a room full of Desire users to dissuade you for some reason.
Do you have to buy from US?

EddyOS said:
Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo
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Soe people just need to fiddle, leave them to it! Why make loads of custom roms, and change them on a daily basis and flash all the time! People love doing this, and if the N1 has quicker updates, etc let em have it. I personally would love to have time to fiddle with a phone 24/7, but I get an hour a month, and love my desire out the box and Sense is great! If you don't like fiddling too much then great, but if someone loves fiddling then that's great too! Don't question WHY people want summit they just do! I personally would choose the desire as it's great out the box, and better hardware, and OK I may have to wait a little bit for 2.2/2.3, etc, etc in the future, but so what, it doesn't bother me (it may bother others and so be it!)

I love to fiddle, I cooked ROMs for my HD2 as the stock ROMs were poor to say the least. I'm just wondering why this person needs to fiddle. The phone, out the box, is nigh on perfect so there's not a lot to do. FroYo will be out eventually so probably best to wait for it...
It's purely curiosity

Problem i've faced.
IS that like most things we have an idea of how something should work. Anyone who's used a HD2 is probably well aware of how much better it is with C00kies hometab mod. I can't actually use mine Stock lol.
I've had my HD2 2 a while and have only just released 1.72, where as Unlocked people are rockin' on 2.10 While I no this is more todo with the network than the phone, I'd just like to be using the newer more update features as and when they arrive. I also like applying mods to user interface, and sometime functionality.
I'm doubtful of HTC's commitment to keep the Desire up to date. Sure you might see 2.2 but will you get 3.0? will HTC then have replaced the Desire with a new flagship model and say that the Desire is no longer on the update program?
Oddly my problem is with HTC and there Sense UI, don't get me wrong my HD2 without it is crap, but it slows down the updates significantly with regards to the Android system, and this concerns me.
@panos: the Nexus one isn't available in the UK simfree, so i have to buy from the US. However the Desire I an obtain from a UK retailer.
The Desire is £400
The Nexus1 is £437 phone,shipping,vat,import.

If Google release a new phone then the N1 will also be left out of the loop so that's not really a valid argument. You can get the N1 on Vodafone so you could always get a contract with them (assuming you're due an upgrade).
Your experience of WinMo is the same as mine - I was constantly cooking ROMs and Co0kie's HT was a must for me - but on the Desire I've not needed anything bar trying the new radios. You can't compare the 2 as they're worlds apart!!
I prefer the buttons on the Desire to the touchscreen ones on the N1 - and don't get my started on the stupid ball on the N1!!
End of the day, if you're someone who can't leave something alone then get the N1 but IMO the Desire is a superior device and Sense makes it even better. Plain Android is piss poor and just looks boring...

well in a few month when desire is released in north America It's going to gain a lot more attention.
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souljas said:
I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1
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+1 totally agree with you

quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS

diablous said:
quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS
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If you really like sense ui then i guess the desire is better for you...but personally, after having the G1, i would go for a phone with a better dev community. I miss my g1 and custom roms,,,,it was very fun and i miss those days...
plus as some have said HTC normally are not very quick with updates like the hero
^^^but yeah i hope when usa gets it the deving will improve

Do hope I am not to late to input on this.
Well through a small loop hole in Vodafones mobile network, I managed to get both the Desire and the Nexus 1.
Initially I had an early upgrade from the sony satio (what an awful phone) to the HTC desire, and loved it. Was absolutely fantastic, loved all of it and couldnt think of trading it away.
However, it stopped working all of a sudden. Around 2 hours later on the phone to vodafone, I was sent a Nexus one the next day. To my dismay, my desire started to work again. Happy days. Anyway, after having both phones for around 2 weeks I've decided that I am to sell the desire, even though the nexus would get me more coin. Yeah, it doesnt look as pretty as sense, but after a while you dont miss it. As for rooting and having latest updates, its the way to go.
IMO get the N1, vodafone do a pretty good deal. Best advise is to make the contract over the phone, they will give you near anything if your convincing

I would have got the N1 if I could go back. As for Sense being good looking I have to disagree. HTC have removed the app transitions (the fade in and out) and replaced the 3d app drawer with a plain black app drawer that lags. Also they have managed to make the default music player worse than stock.
The only thing I like about sense is the widgets, but beautiful widgets is an adequate replacement.
Also the N1 is very easy to root and near impossible to brick, whereas HTC have gone out of their way to spoil the fun and prevent us getting a full root (so far)
I am considering selling my Desire and getting the N1

I got a Desire because the N1 was not available on contract if it was I would of probably gone for the N1.
I spent 18 months on a G1 and loved all the support it got from the modding community much the same as the N1 has now, but I also at the time was in awe of the ui on the Hero which turned out to be a better build than the G1 in my opinion, and I questioned my self on if I made the right choice to get the G1 or not or should of waited a bit longer for the Hero to be released.
Since the Hero came out later, it was behind on the modding scene then picked up pace a lot later on, much the same as I imagine the Desire scene will explode sooner or later especially if we get full root on the device, people also say HTC are slow at updates which is true, but I got an update as soon as took it out of the box, but I think due to the N1 not been available on contract though various carriers in the UK until now and as far as I am aware only Vodafone, HTC has has sold a hell of a lot more Desires though various carriers on contract, that i think Vodafone will ever sell of the N1 thus they might realise that 2.2 should be shipped out to the Desire sooner rather than later to keep its users happy.
My friend has a N1 and my personal opinion the Desire looks a hell of a lot better outside and inside.

[Q] On the fence, a N1 owner...

What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?

thats a tough one. I'm a former N1 owner and still miss it. Only reason why i jumped on board with the G2 is because i lost my precious N1 that i had paid the full amount for... Other then that, i'd still hold onto it.

I would hold on to it, especially with the Gingerbread update coming out. Maybe when Gingerbread gets ported to G2, you can make the switch..

apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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I personally made the jump, but only because I root my phone.
If you dont root your phone I would stay with the N1 but if you do root you will get just about every goodie that the Nexus One does + better everything so I cant think of a reason to stay to be hones.
Gingerbread will be ported over by some developer here a short time after its released on the Nexus One so I wouldnt worry about that ^_^

I am a former N1 user that made the switch to a G2. I can say personally, it was a great choice.
I loved my N1. However, I wasn't huge into the custom roms and modding. I did my fair share of installing custom roms, kernel mods, etc. However, at the end of the day (i.e. after 3 phone replacements due to faulty hardware over the course of my ownership) I found myself sticking to the stock OTA 2.2 software with a few minor kernel mods like cifs.
My main reasons for switching the to G2 were:
1. I really missed having a hardware keyboard (I went from a G1 to the N1)
2. The G2 hardware was superior to the N1 in all respects
3. HSPA+ is awesome in the Seattle area
4. I was able to sell my N1 on Ebay for $440 which pretty much paid for my G2.
My current new found loves for the G2 are:
1. 1497Mhz overclock kicks BUTT in the PSX emulator!
2. Temproot is so easy and doesn't void my warranty
3. Permroot is now established so if I want to go mod crazy later I can
4. Battery life on my G2 is easily double what I got on the N1
Hopefully all this will shed some light on your question and help you with your decision

Yeah me too i switch from the N1 and i was missing it because the root but now we have full power to this phone it have better hardware but is u call iam happy with my decision
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The G2 has a PSX emulator?!? OK, I'm already sold...
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apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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Former N1 owner here. The G2 is BY FAR a superior device, no contest. I would have waffled a couple days ago when we had no perma-root, but now? Absolutely, one hundred percent superior. The G2 will get all the latest software just like the G1 did -- you can run Froyo on a G1 with no problem, remember. It's the universal handset. The only thing it lacks is a front-facing camera, and I for one couldn't care less about that

I currently have and use both the N1 and the G2.
G2:
+ Faster hardware
+ Keyboard
+ Swype
- Bulky
- No CyanogenMod
N1:
+ Gets updates first
+ CyanogenMod
+ Thin
- No keyboard
- No Swype
I find myself carrying the G2 most of the time because I a corporate user, and I have to send a lot of email from the phone. I am much faster with long emails using the physical keyboard.

No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.

add119 said:
No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
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And where did you get that information?

http://www.pocketables.net/2010/11/...d-to-nexus-one-handsets-in-next-few-days.html
I dont have any info on the nexus one not passing beyond 2.3 os.
Trust me the nexus one wont get Android 3.0 os from google.
It will be from xda developer, when google drop the ball on them. It the same way they did with the g1.
Either you root or not and google going to say the samething to users like they did with the g1 in may 2010. Telling the users that they wont support them in 2011.

Why should we trust you? Are you a Google employee? Does one have your ear? You're just making unsubstantiated claims based on your own opinion.

To the person who posted about "no" cyanogen mod.
ROMs are subjective, that doesn't matter unless you disparately need it and still, Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2. Plus when the N1 came out, it barely had any ROMs available for it. IT TAKES TIME PEOPLE!
The HW on the G2 is superior, the support will continue. From what it seems, gingerbread will be the last update on the Nexus One before it gets discontinued completely. Sure it was the Official Google phone, and it will always be but its getting old in age, and specs. It's time to move on to bigger and better stuff. I had an N1 and I sold it to buy this G2, and so far it pretty much owns the Nexus One in everything.

~~Tito~~ said:
Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2.
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Yes, it is likely the G2 will have CM and will have it rather soon. It's not out now, so I was simply stating a fact. The hardware in the G2 is better, but I currently don't notice much a difference in usability between the two. That being said, I prefer the G2, but I am not prepared to write off my N1, yet.

Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.

add119 said:
Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
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You're not the only person who's been around Android for two years. Or around XDA for two years. I know how things HAVE worked. That's not saying for sure that it WILL work the same in the future.

Yeah jay i wish that nexus one users get the latest operating system from google, because not everyone wants to root their phones. Especially, if their new and they dont know about this. And, will be scare of messing up their phones.

Is The Evo 4G Gonna Get Left In The Dark?

I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to think we are gonna get treated like the HD2 was......I mean HTC and Windows gave there dedicated users a great device with the ancient Windows 6.5.....and while we may be running Android 2.2 (which is beginning to become old news) we are running an ancient UI (HTC Sense 1.0) while the new phones are getting Sense 2.0+.....sounds familiar to me with the new Windows 7 devices coming out and the HD2 stuck on 6.5......I really think froyo will be the last major update for the Evo....at least until Q3 or Q4 of this year......What do u guys think???? Id be happier with either Gingerbread or the New Sense or a combination of both......

Its still Sprint's flagship smartphone. The epic doesn't get any love, and I really don't see the shift overtaking it. Does it even have a named replacement yet?
We'll at least get new sense, if not gb soon. Didn't we just see a sense gb rom dump...I lost the thread, but HTC is at least working on something
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I think that the evo will get 2.3. more apps would sell if the evo got 2.4 also...i would not be surprised to see sprint request 2.4 from htc but ill settle for sprint requesting 2.3.
contact sprint if you want to push for an update to 2.3

I dont remember, maybe one of you folks know.
What was the time delta between Google's release of Froyo bits and Sprint/HTC's release of the 2.2 OTA upgrade for EVO?

ZachPA said:
I dont remember, maybe one of you folks know.
What was the time delta between Google's release of Froyo bits and Sprint/HTC's release of the 2.2 OTA upgrade for EVO?
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Official release like 2 weeks since it was announce like 2 months (announce in the last week of may and evo got the update in August)
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Sprint is not releasing new phones as quickly as compared to other carriers so I think the EVO will be a flagship phone longer than most other phones.

mufc1991 said:
Sprint is not releasing new phones as quickly as compared to other carriers so I think the EVO will be a flagship phone longer than most other phones.
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i agree. I want an Evo 2 whatever goodness it may be!

I heard from a friend that works for sprint that LG Optimus 3D is coming to sprint. another industries 1st

PRELUDE777 said:
I heard from a friend that works for sprint that LG Optimus 3D is coming to sprint. another industries 1st
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I don't see how that is possible when from my knowledge that phone is a GSM phone that supports HSPA+, not WiMax, not CMDA.
Don't see this phone coming to sprint.

nosympathy said:
I don't see how that is possible when from my knowledge that phone is a GSM phone that supports HSPA+, not WiMax, not CMDA.
Don't see this phone coming to sprint.
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You're correct, it is a GSM device.

optimus came out as a gsm phone to, and not after long it was on all 4 carriers

Well I really hope it doesn't come to Sprint. Knowing them, they'll get it and think that they don't need another flagship phone and we'll never get our EVO 2. Besides, we sure as hell don't need another gimmick phone since the Echo will be the reigning king in that department.

evo2 would be nice, but in all fairnest optimus 3d is pretty good phone. hdmi,dlni, 3d, dual core prosessor, 4.3 inch screen etd. has pretty impressive packege, and would be good addition to sprints line up. about echo I really dont know what they was thinkin. phone looks like its ben desined on a launch break. lame

Well Sprint can ask for HTC to upgrade us to a 2.0 Sense but I doubt that will happen as HTC is more focused on their new lines coming out which is fail on their part.
Sprint needs to learn how to push harder for updates out of HTC and remove the bullcrap from their shipped ROMs like their bloatware.

LG & Sprint have not really faired well together imo. Lutus & Lotus elite = garbage, Optimus besides having Android 2.2 is really no better than the sanyo Zio. The best phone they've had for Sprint was the Rumor 2.
I work at a Sprint store & I see the LGs come back all the time broken & not working right. Keep the 3D on GSM & give me an EVO2 as well.

If you check out the htc community website, there was a response from htc about the update to 2.3.
Linky
Basically we have to wait and see if htc will allow 2.3 to be on the EVO in not at all by passing "quality standards".
This is frustrating...

AtiRadeon1 said:
If you check out the htc community website, there was a response from htc about the update to 2.3.
Linky
Basically we have to wait and see if htc will allow 2.3 to be on the EVO in not at all by passing "quality standards".
This is frustrating...
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Maybe what is taking so long is that they are doing GB and HTC Sense 2.0 for the Evo.
^Joke of the year ladies and gentlemen.

_MetalHead_ said:
Well I really hope it doesn't come to Sprint. Knowing them, they'll get it and think that they don't need another flagship phone and we'll never get our EVO 2. Besides, we sure as hell don't need another gimmick phone since the Echo will be the reigning king in that department.
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I was just thinking how the Echo is going to echo is failure for future generations.

androidcentral just reported New Sprint phone coming Feb. 24. any body? any idea?

PRELUDE777 said:
androidcentral just reported New Sprint phone coming Feb. 24. any body? any idea?
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I do wish is the Evo 2 biut I doubt is too early , maybe another tablet or the iPhone 4 ha ha who knows
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You guys upgrading?

Hey, with all the new dual core phones out are you guys gonna upgrade from your desire? I myself would enjoy having a dual core phone but its not necessary. I may wait out this generation and go for the next. What are you guys gonna do?

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Hey, with all the new dual core phones out are you guys gonna upgrade from your desire? I myself would enjoy having a dual core phone but its not necessary. I may wait out this generation and go for the next. What are you guys gonna do?
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I would probably wait for the nexus prime, but i guess i want something different now (aka non android based phone)...

I'm going to stick it out for another year or so until 4G handsets hit the UK. Still really happy with my Desire.
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I'm attempting to get a sensation tomorrow as an upgrade without changing my price plan. However on the sensation thread there seems to be a good few issues but this seems to be the same with all new handsets.
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Not really until current projects are still in development. I'm not upgrading to a device lacking a nice selection of custom roms from trusted developers. It would be Pyrrhic victory imo.

Thought I wanted to upgrade, when I first began reading about the Pyramid/Sensation... But as others have said, I am happy to sit this one out and hang on to my Desire. Just having too much fun with it at the moment

I'm going Evo 3D. Need a bit of novelty value!
Seems a decent phone too.
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Not for now i have no needs for something bigger and better.

Not for now. Probably upgrading in Q1 2012 - when a bunch of new phones will come out.

Stick with desire, same reasons as given above... basically;
1) wait for the nexus whatever to see what that's like (and see if htc do a spin-off of that to see what that's like too)
2) wait for an ICS phone (HTC or not - i assume this will be part of #1 though)
3) wait for 4G
4) wait for quad core (rumour is early 2012)
5) my desire is fine as it is at the moment

I can wait till Sep/Oct to see if I am still sticking with Android or jumping ship to iPhone 5, or I could just keep the Desire and get the next-gen iPod touch instead

Mgzkun said:
I can wait till Sep/Oct to see if I am still sticking with Android or jumping ship to iPhone 5, or I could just keep the Desire and get the next-gen iPod touch instead
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gasp
with apple supposedly 'stealing' features from android (notification/widgets) etc. why would you go to apple?
That said - I can see a reason to go for an iPod Touch a year or so ago... but I'm actually happy with my Android-choice and I think it's only going to get better.

Lothaen said:
gasp
with apple supposedly 'stealing' features from android (notification/widgets) etc. why would you go to apple?
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Heh, because history teaches us that apple steals things then makes them better...that's the way they work. Don't get me wrong, i'm just a consumer, not a shareholder, so i'm quite fine with that

I'll be waiting till end 2012, very happy with the desire, there isn't much it still can't do.
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Same here. I'm pleased with the Desire and would probably wait it out for another year until the next wave of Android phones to hit the market.

If I had to choose what I want to have after the HTC Desire, then I would choose Samsung S2 Galaxy, maybe I'll have the opportunity when my subscription runs out, which I have to march 2013 or will be an even more interesting possibility. In any case, I would not go on any other system
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Take away gaming - Can you think of any app that the desire cant do, that the other phones can?
I cant Desire is still right up there with the best, spec wise no but still a great phone

I've had my S2 for about a week now - at first I didn't really like how big it was and how light it feels but kept with it for a few days and grew to like it more and more - that's without even rooting it yet.
Tbh I was still perfectly happy with my desire I just had the opportunity at next to no cost so took it - now when I pick up the desire it's hard to believe I didn't notice the difference at first - everything about the S2 other than the standard keyboard is well advanced (which you would expect to be fair).
All i'll say is don't try the S2 or sensation whilst you still have your desire or you might not be able to hold on for the next gen phones!

Budadank said:
I'm going to stick it out for another year or so until 4G handsets hit the UK. Still really happy with my Desire.
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I thought the UK was not developing 4g? I was under the impression that 3g will be developed further since its not that great over here

BigMrB said:
I thought the UK was not developing 4g? I was under the impression that 3g will be developed further since its not that great over here
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AFAIK, as soon as analogue TV is sitched off completely later this year, the frequency spectrum will be auctioned off for 4G licences.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/4g-...-ofcom-details-new-spectrum-auction-50003241/
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[Q] Sensation or DHD

Hi All,
I have the chance to get a Sensation tomorrow for free
I currently use the DHD and think the phone is awesome. Has anyone here had experience with both? I just wondered if the Sensation actually compares to the DHD or if it has any problems etc.
The main thing I can see immediately is the Sensation still doesn't have full root where as my DHD has boot unlocked and full root access so I swap my roms around quite often. Hopefully this will come soon to the sensation.
Anyway, if people who have already defected or played with both could let me know whether I'll feel impressed if I do get the Sensation please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!

never mind,... only searched the DHD forums... just found this on the sensation forums.
same question sorry!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170169

I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best

Moreover its better to have latest hardware to be future proof as the mobile hardware is improving drastically with cellphones having dual core processors and 1gb ram

For free? Seriously? Then why you're still asking this question? Just go for it already. You're the 2nd person i've met who gets sensation for free.
Dammit you're so lucky.
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guliavikas47 said:
I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best
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Won't be necessary. Htc have announced they will be unlocking the Sensation bootloader via ota in August. The phone is already rootable for those who were light enough to get themselves an unlocked engineering phone.
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For free then yes, as said when bootloader is unlocked devs will support it just think of it as a faster bigger brother to the DHD.
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Thanks for the replies everyone even though this is a double post
Sounds fairly unanimous to me, guess I'll have to pick it up

sensation definitely

I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device

Funnily enough svyat that was my initial thought on the matter but you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device. I don't really follow this stuff as much as I used to, do you know something I don't?? Do HTC have something else hidden away that they are going to sneak out anytime soon?
Cheers.

Called the htc holiday
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Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months, so continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile. If your Sensation is 'free' on a new 18/24 month contract, I'd be inclined to wait and see what HTC announce in the next couple of months...

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you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device.
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It definitely is their current flagship device.
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do you know something I don't??
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Not really, but eventually there will be another flagship device anyway.
mattmiller said:
Called the htc holiday
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This could well be it
mjt said:
Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months
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True
mjt said:
continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile
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Wrong. I need to have the best flagship device at all times

svyat said:
I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device
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+1. My criteria for a device is a) Android, b) good spec, c) "supported" by xda-developers
For the last point, read ROMs and the knowledge base.
All the same, if anyone wants to give me a Sensation, I won't refuse

Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....

senstation is faster

sensation in better

Listen it's already confirmed Att will be releasing the htc holiday across the seas. It's estimated the name here in the us would be the Inspire HD. Jus like the mytouch series and the vibrant series. This phone is expected to be packed and quad core probably with the latest dual core chipset by the time it's released, be the best an latest. Wait till the htc holiday, it will be out this year around the 4th quarter of the year.
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Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....
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You can also sell your current device and use the proceeds to buy the next best thing.