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EVO 4G and Android 2.2 "Froyo"

Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?

Izorai said:
Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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There have been posts about this. Nobody knows for sure. HTC did say that most of the phones released this year will get 2.2 by the end of the year. They might skip it for Gingerbread (2.5, btw) but nobody knows yet. No worries though. I'm sure when we root this thing we will get AOSP 2.2 installed in no time.

I'm just as excited as you are.
Izorai said:
Only a few days are left till EVO 4G will be on market. It will have Android 2.1.
I was wondering if it will get an upgrade to 2.2 "Froyo", since Google offisially released it! Or even Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" when will be out, in the end of 2010?
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Not to be a spoilsport here, but I still prefer HTC HD2 cause it has physical buttons. Those touch sensitive ones have proven to be a bit awkward on the Nexus One already. But this phone's good.
Yeah according to Google/HTC (I'm not sure), but there's an article that says that almost all phones release in 2010 will get the 2.2 update. Not sure about the 3.0 one though, I think it's too early
And I'm just as excited about the Evo as all of you are.

Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.

chuckhriczko said:
Well semi good news. Froyo is on the Nexus One officially now. So once we root this puppy we can make a N1 rom for our Evo and bam! Instant parfait goodness. That said, I don't think we will root it before Google deposits the 2.2 code in the AOSP repositories so if that happens we can just cook up our own AOSP rom. Even so, this is a good backup plan.
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I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.

Sawawa said:
I think that you are being way too confident. The 4G radio in this handset is going to present some interesting (and serious) challenges as far as just adapting AOSP or other ROMs (such as those for the GSM Nexus One) is concerned.
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Definitely not a stranger to this notion. Before I got my evo I had a hero which had the same issues. I'm just hoping wecan find a way to better work around it.

Would this help?

Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history

toastcfh said:
Froyo is already said to have wimax support natively. As for cdma support as of 1.6 its supported natively. I don't see any reason we wont have radio support in Froyo. Its all there already. Or will be once its released. I have no worries about a upgrade to froyo. All we need is root and the rest is history
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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.

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So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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All the more reason to determine how we can update both the Kernel and the OS files independently.

Doesn't Froyo SDK include WiMAX support?
Sawawa said:
So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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I'm completely new to posting in these forums (1st post), but have followed for quite a while.
In response to the above, I want to point out that keishou posted a link to the EVO 4G Developer's Guide which clearly states that the Froyo SDK will contain WiMAX support. Under section 2. 4G-WiMax Network, it says...
// you are on Sprint's 4G network
// ConnectivityManager.Type_WIMAX=6 will be included in Froyo SDK
// Until Type_WIMAX is supported
// you will need to hard-code the value 6
Doesn't this mean that we won't have to worry about WiMAX when flashing Froyo onto the EVO?

Sawawa said:
So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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They didn't "abandon" the headset. There was a software release in between launch and 2.1. Not to mention that 2.1 was only out for 5 months before the Hero got the update. 1 bug fixing update and 1 major release in 7 months? Seems about average for the industry.
Look at the Treo 800w and Treo Pro. They never got an update, and probably never will. That's being abanonded.

Sawawa said:
So basically HTC has patched in support for a new type of radio in a previous version of the firmware that doesn't support it natively, and you're using this as evidence that the situation will be different than it was with the Hero?
If you'll recall, 1.5 lacked the native CDMA support that arrived in 1.6. HTC patched it in and then abandoned the handset for seven months.
History is not on your side.
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it doesnt matter if HTC is gonna give us a update really man. we can do a much better job then them. as for HTC abandoning the hero i dont think that was the case. if a handset manufacturer updated the OS on every phone every time Google did they would be ****ing their selves. i think HTC did a ok job of releasing 2.1 for the hero. i mean really we couldve got 1.6, 2.0 or 2.0.1 but all those platforms were short lived. the fact is they have to build binaries to support major platform shifts and it just so happens that 1.5/the hero got caught in that groove. plus on top of it the hero is old news. it has a old ARCH that doesnt support most of the 2.+ APIs. hero doesnt support opengl 2.0 and never will. in a since 2.1 on the hero was kinda pointless. the only way we can get some of the 2.1 goodies is through hacking to get it, leaving the builds unstable and slightly buggy. of course us the tweakers dont care but the users who just buy the phone and wait for official updates do care about that. i mean also official 2.1 hasnt been out all that long either and the hero got it. will the evo see an update? im sure it will. there is no reason it shouldnt.

All of us that will be migrating from the Hero to the Evo have faith in you and the rest of the devs here Toast. You all worked wonders with the Hero and with more capable hardware I am sure you will blow us all away in due time.

fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!

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fresh and toast are the ****ing gods of cdma android lol, freshtoast for life!!!
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Totally agree with ya on that, but dammit they better bring Darch with them

Seeing as the EVO is one of HTC's flagship devices I can't see it not getting at least two upgrades. For what its worth, based on the fact that the droid is getting 2.2 soon it appears that either google has started to talk to manufacturers better or this upgrade may simply be easier to roll out (of course the droid is vanilla 2.2, but considering how long 2.1 took it's still good news)

Based on the Evo's specs I can't imagine not getting updates until at least (Mind you I'm picking a random number with no basis) Android 4.0 or something. While HTC is slow with updates, that's what XDA is for

Yeah the only froyo you will get is a port from a dev on here. I heard the EVO will not get the official 2.2 for up to three months. Knowing sprint, much longer than that.

2.2 is coming to EVO
http://www.cooltechzone.com/2010/05/25/htc-confirms-htc-evo-4g-android-2-2-froyo-update/ i hope this help guys...i can't wait to get mines on the 4th....

2.2 froyo on evo ota

Any word on a ota for Evo if its coming anytime soon I've searched a lot got no answers please,any help

OTA hasn't even officially come out for the Nexus One. HTC has to port their sense on to it. Best guess is its going to be a few months.

I WISH froyo was coming to the evo in an official update, but that wont happen for months. We will need to rely on XDA to put together a rom for us to use on our rooted phones if we want it sooner.

As others have said, we will never get it before the Nexus does. And a few months? Count on six. At least. And when/if HTC ever gets it to us, it will almost definitely be OTW.

Sprint felt pretty stupid about how long the Hero took, and the Evo is their and HTC's flagship device. I bet we will see it sooner then we did on the Hero, but it will still be a while.

the phone is not even 4 days old and we already have threads about when is the next android OS update?
Can we make a subforum dedicated to just froyo 2.2 rumors, customer service whispers, sprint tech info, leaked documents, tweets, theories and every other worthless bit information and crying users about when its coming that crippled the Hero forums for months so it doesn't waste anyone's time when trying to talk about something that is relevant?
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I don't think anyone here can give a concrete timeline as to when the Evo will get froyo. While I do miss a few things in froyo. I'd much rather see NAND unlocked first.

RTessi said:
the phone is not even 4 days old and we already have threads about when is the next android OS update?
Can we make a subforum dedicated to just froyo 2.2 rumors, customer service whispers, sprint tech info, leaked documents, tweets, theories and every other worthless bit information and crying users about when its coming that crippled the Hero forums for months so it doesn't waste anyone's time when trying to talk about something that is relevant?
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I agree somewhat. But to be fair, this is Sprint's flagship device. They should be doing everything they can to get 2.2 on it as quick as possible. The ball is in Sprint's court if they want to be known as a top carrier in terms of cutting edge. Yes we have the only 4G phone, but to be the 2nd carrier (under T-Mo of course) to have a 2.2 device would strengthen their standings and possibly allow them to acquire more customers that are downtrodden from At&t.

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I agree somewhat. But to be fair, this is Sprint's flagship device. They should be doing everything they can to get 2.2 on it as quick as possible. The ball is in Sprint's court if they want to be known as a top carrier in terms of cutting edge. Yes we have the only 4G phone, but to be the 2nd carrier (under T-Mo of course) to have a 2.2 device would strengthen their standings and possibly allow them to acquire more customers that are downtrodden from At&t.
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I Agree with you they need to work hard which I believe upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 is something doable within 2 weeks again that my guess , they can make their customers happy also iphone 4 is on its way .. give them some hard times
Honestly customers will come to Sprint only they work hard this is soo true currently Ball is in their court do not let it go .. get a news release up asap with 2.2 rolling out date . If I would be Sprint I would do the Press Release for 2.2 Fryo the same Day when Apple was announcing iphone 4.

[Q] When will the G2 have no more support?

Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.

To answer your questions, yes, we will be able to upgrade to Android 2.3 and 3.0. The best thing about this device is the dev support. Even if T-Mobile didn't push an official update, the devs will always produce custom roms. If you go off of the life of the G1, the G2 will be around for a decent amount of time.
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Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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If your on contract your normally upgrade to the next big thing every two years, but the G1 still has dev support and it is a few months over 2 years albiet that might die off soon with gingerbread...
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Did you have a g1? How better is the g2 on g1 and did you know g1 just had a froyo update last month.
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I had a g1. The g2 blows it out of the water. It took me a while to actually play with the g2. Once I did I started realizing that the old was slow, out dated, and is hindering the new android experence.
Sent from my HTC Vision

G2 will have dev's working on it for a long long time yet, however there is a chance that any android higher than 3.0 will require better/different hardware, we just won't know until closer to its release, which is a long way off anyway.

I wouldn't concern myself about it. The developer support will always be there - and personally I'd much rather rely on good developer support than support from your service provider...
As far as hardware... No way in telling. With dual-core processors around the corner its hard to say what future Android OS's will require but being that 'TRUE' Android is simple and efficient, I would think that the G2 will be able to keep up. (Remember people are clocking this baby upwards of 1.8GHZ)

I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!

androidcues said:
I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!
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Yea... if google doesn't decide to kill him off that is...
haha j/k

G2 will be good for quite some time. Who knows maybe the g3 will be first with honeycomb. Lol
[G2/HTC Vision]

If my G1 still worked, I'd still be using it.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.

convolution said:
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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It isn't supported anymore better go buy the Nexus S or wait for the G3 in 2 years

SGS2EpicTouch or wait for SGS3?

dont know if it has already been asked so if it had then mods just delete thread or whatever it is you guys do....
I currently have the Epic 4g (og one) and im going to open another line with sprint and going to get the Epic touch but ive been reading some leaks/articles/etc saying that samsung is going to announce the SGS3 @ the MWC in barcelona in FEB 2012 and that they were going to have it release at the same time in the europe and US markets before the IPhone 5 is released. the specs on the SGS3 are crazy which in reality are way more than what i need on a phone but still dont mind having. So my question should i wait (which i can somewhat do) or should i just get the epic touch and upgrade as soon as i can to the SGS3 which would be by next fall?

Ma$etas said:
dont know if it has already been asked so if it had then mods just delete thread or whatever it is you guys do....
I currently have the Epic 4g (og one) and im going to open another line with sprint and going to get the Epic touch but ive been reading some leaks/articles/etc saying that samsung is going to announce the SGS3 @ the MWC in barcelona in FEB 2012 and that they were going to have it release at the same time in the europe and US markets before the IPhone 5 is released. the specs on the SGS3 are crazy which in reality are way more than what i need on a phone but still dont mind having. So my question should i wait (which i can somewhat do) or should i just get the epic touch and upgrade as soon as i can to the SGS3 which would be by next fall?
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I think you should wait for the gs4
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kingsway8605 said:
I think you should wait for the gs4
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LOL..
serious posters only please
just saying if its true that the sgs3 will be out shortly then should i wait or not?
also sgs3 should have NFC
not sure if sprint will actually setup the rev b network but if it does i dont think epic touch will be capable of taking advantage of it and that should be something the sgs 3 should have ( well i atleast i think)

There will always be a newer better phone on the horizon. What it really depends on is if this phone is good enough to keep u content with ur phone situation for atleast a year.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2

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I think you should wait for the gs4
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I agree. I was going to post, SGS3 or wait for SGS4.

ravizzle said:
There will always be a newer better phone on the horizon. What it really depends on is if this phone is good enough to keep u content with ur phone situation for atleast a year.
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TRUE
guess ill get it cause once the Sgs3 is about to be released then they will have rumors about the sgs4 etc...
really the epic does everything i need and more but since im getting a new line then might as well get a newer phone
i know the epic touch is crazy in specs and screen size but to me what its missing is the keyboard ( that is just me for what i use it for) but im trying to get used to using swype also the og epic doesnt have true tv out capability.

Ma$etas said:
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guess ill get it cause once the Sgs3 is about to be released then they will have rumors about the sgs4 etc...
really the epic does everything i need and more but since im getting a new line then might as well get a newer phone
i know the epic touch is crazy in specs and screen size but to me what its missing is the keyboard ( that is just me for what i use it for) but im trying to get used to using swype also the og epic doesnt have true tv out capability.
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"Just about to be released" was morphed from "to be announced in Feb" when in reality a US release between May and August is most likely. Remember when the SGS2 was coming to America and supposedly to be released when the E3D was released...in late May/early June? Then the E3D got pushed the the 24th and the SGS2 was FINALLY released 3 months after that?
That happens every time.
I'm on an infinite upgrade cycle myself, but, once I get the Nexus Prime I'm going to settle down and keep that until the next Nexus device comes out. They set the standard for the year and most phones never come close to being as good for the entire generation.
Trust me, you can keep upgrading over and over and over...and you can wait for the next best thing to come out, but then right before that is released the next-next best thing is released.
Pick a phone you want and settle in, it'll lower your anxiety level. Just go blank on new phone tech for the year or two until you get an upgrade.
...oh, and about the keyboard? Something tells me they are dying, quickly. I wouldn't hold my breath for a top-of-the-line phone with a slider.

Ma$etas said:
dont know if it has already been asked so if it had then mods just delete thread or whatever it is you guys do....
I currently have the Epic 4g (og one) and im going to open another line with sprint and going to get the Epic touch but ive been reading some leaks/articles/etc saying that samsung is going to announce the SGS3 @ the MWC in barcelona in FEB 2012 and that they were going to have it release at the same time in the europe and US markets before the IPhone 5 is released. the specs on the SGS3 are crazy which in reality are way more than what i need on a phone but still dont mind having. So my question should i wait (which i can somewhat do) or should i just get the epic touch and upgrade as soon as i can to the SGS3 which would be by next fall?
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Good idea... except Apple will be announcing the iphone5 next month with a release shortly after.

Ma$etas said:
LOL..
serious posters only please
just saying if its true that the sgs3 will be out shortly then should i wait or not?
also sgs3 should have NFC
not sure if sprint will actually setup the rev b network but if it does i dont think epic touch will be capable of taking advantage of it and that should be something the sgs 3 should have ( well i atleast i think)
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Honestly, if you can wait for the SGS 3 then your not ready to upgrade. I would sit on it if I were you. The SGS3 will not be out shortly. It was just announced. I suppose it could be shortly you plan to switch to At&t and are willing to pay way out of pocket for a device that is probably going to be released in the spring of next year.

Dude I think there's like one dude that's the so called source in that GSIII story and he's known for bull****. Come on dude. Require a couple sources on your blog based info. The Quad core 2 Ghz GS III u mean with the 2250 battery, at 9 mm thick still mind you and a 5.3 inch screen. Can't make this **** up. All these details all at once from this no name idiot known for bull**** just happens to come across. It doesn't exist. Never will lol.

What i usually do is buy their best phone, and then i just keep my eyes open on the latest phones. If i happen to see something i like coming soon i sell my current phone and grab the new phone. i get bored easy with phones too so i am always switching it up!

**** that, SG7 is around the corner. Just wait man...

ICS update up in the air now?

Droid-Life just posted some new dates for the expected Ice Cream Sandwich update. Apparently HTC is now listing the DINC2 as being "To be determined (by the end of August). This doesn't sound very promising to me anymore. Not sure what may have changed but obviously something has.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/2...lt-in-july-august-incredible-2-up-in-the-air/
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
Hopefully, the devs can figure out things even if this does not drop for us.

thats troubling...but given that it was previously promised and that all the sister/cousin phones (including the tbolt which was released earlier) are getting it, id say its still coming
(why even update the rhyme? no one got it, and the women that did dont care about gb/ics/whatever)
lame
although another take could be, its getting the update...but time frame is "tbd" but will be by the end of august regardless

nitsuj17 said:
although another take could be, its getting the update...but time frame is "tbd" but will be by the end of august regardless
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I think this is correct.

nitsuj17 said:
thats troubling...but given that it was previously promised and that all the sister/cousin phones (including the tbolt which was released earlier) are getting it, id say its still coming
(why even update the rhyme? no one got it, and the women that did dont care about gb/ics/whatever)
lame
although another take could be, its getting the update...but time frame is "tbd" but will be by the end of august regardless
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One can hope that is for sure. However, with Verizon nothing surprises me as they like to cancel things at the last moment up to and including whole phones.

Yeah, the Thunderbolt and the Evo Design 4G both have our exact same chipset, so I don't see why it wouldn't be around June or so (once again, barring VZW's inane approval process).
EDIT: I think this is causing an unnecessary freakout. It's the Schedule that is TBD, not the update itself.
The majority of devices will receive upgrades in June and July 2012 and we expect to finish upgrades in August 2012 for all announced devices.
Our device has been announced by HTC and VZW as getting the upgrade. I'm willing to bet it's >90% done already by HTC, it's just a matter of when at this point.
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Eh... not too worried. We will get it when we get it.

For the benefit of those in here, I am quoting my post from the OpenSense ROM thread:
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i posted in the thread in general....
my best guess is that "tbd" refers to when they actually will release, but "by the end of august" is the latest they will release it
wouldnt make sense to not release an update for a semi popular phone (or at least 10x popular as the rhyme) that is running the same chipset as so many of the other phones on that list
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PLUS, and a huge plus, they said they will update it. I believe they should and would realize what a faux pas it will be if they now come out and say, you know what "We ain't gonna release it".
Plus, after scrutinizing the language used in the following sentences:
When will my device get the Android 4.0 upgrade?
The target timeline for announced devices is below. Because of partner and network testing, and approval processes for device updates, it can take up to 45 days for all carriers and countries to get the update after a rollout has begun.
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It sounds to me that they are going to release ICS for the Dinc2. It is on the list of devices with a schedule of release dates... PLUS, a FAQ below says this:
What devices will not get Android 4.0?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.
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Now, tell me how can you even think that the Dinc2 is not getting ICS when, (a) it is in the list of devices scheduled to get ICS some time back, (b) it is in the table of devices getting ICS and the corresponding timelines and (c) it is NOT in the list of devices specifically mentioned as not getting ICS?
So, verdict: Chill out man! Our phone is gonna get some ICS love!
Captain Obvious, over and out.
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Not double posting. Just letting people get the relevant info as they probably wouldn't have expected the info to be in that other thread. Lemme know if I did something wrong! (hope not)

Verizon has a way of disappointing customers with last second decisions. I have been a customer of Verizon for over a decade so I have an idea of what I am talking about.
Of course, I hope for the best but they have a distinct way of stating things so that it can be left open for doubt. As the date for the release indicates. All other devices got a, very rare, 2 month expected date. Ours didn't. Which could easily lead to a "we are sorry but we have determined it would not be in our best interests to upgrade this device".

blazingwolf said:
Which could easily lead to a "we are sorry but we have determined it would not be in our best interests to upgrade this device".
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LOL! I wonder if they say "in our best interest"... That sounds like they are admitting that doing so will effect their profit margins
EDIT: Why would updating Rhyme make more sense than Dinc2. And why is it of higher priority than Dinc2 that it gets a more solid time frame???
EDIT 2: There is no way in hell they can pull off or even ATTEMPT to suggest that "sorry, we plan not to update the Dinc2. It is not capable of running ICS". Why? The Droid Incredible S is getting it in June/July!!! It is the same phone! With same processor, RAM, ROM etc. Probably a different radio (GSM versus CDMA).. So, I feel we better calm down and wait to see if HTC releases an official statement to clarify the ruckus...

litetaker said:
LOL! I wonder if they say "in our best interest"... That sounds like they are admitting that doing so will effect their profit margins
EDIT: Why would updating Rhyme make more sense than Dinc2. And why is it of higher priority than Dinc2 that it gets a more solid time frame???
EDIT 2: There is no way in hell they can pull off or even ATTEMPT to suggest that "sorry, we plan not to update the Dinc2. It is not capable of running ICS". Why? The Droid Incredible S is getting it in June/July!!! It is the same phone! With same processor, RAM, ROM etc. Probably a different radio (GSM versus CDMA).. So, I feel we better calm down and wait to see if HTC releases an official statement to clarify the ruckus...
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You obviously don't understand Verizon. Please notice I did not say HTC. HTC is not the deciding factor here, Verizon is.

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You obviously don't understand Verizon. Please notice I did not say HTC. HTC is not the deciding factor here, Verizon is.
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Well, that much is true, since I have been on Verizon for less than a year. Anyway, I am no dev, but it stands to reason that Kernels written for the IncS will (at least partly) work for Inc2. Excepting code meant for Radio etc., the rest of it should work for Inc2 as they are basically having the same hardware, right??
If so, and if Verizon screws me over (again, first DX2 and now this) then experienced devs may be able to pull code necessary for Camera from the Inc S's kernel and incorporate it into ours. Problem solved.

litetaker said:
EDIT 2: There is no way in hell they can pull off or even ATTEMPT to suggest that "sorry, we plan not to update the Dinc2. It is not capable of running ICS". Why? The Droid Incredible S is getting it in June/July!!! It is the same phone! With same processor, RAM, ROM etc. Probably a different radio (GSM versus CDMA).. So, I feel we better calm down and wait to see if HTC releases an official statement to clarify the ruckus...
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Adding to that, most of us here are already running ICS without their official update lol...
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litetaker said:
Well, that much is true, since I have been on Verizon for less than a year. Anyway, I am no dev, but it stands to reason that Kernels written for the IncS will (at least partly) work for Inc2. Excepting code meant for Radio etc., the rest of it should work for Inc2 as they are basically having the same hardware, right??
If so, and if Verizon screws me over (again, first DX2 and now this) then experienced devs may be able to pull code necessary for Camera from the Inc S's kernel and incorporate it into ours. Problem solved.
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Perhaps, but take the time to read the threads and you will notice that all devs say they need source code to do it right. Notice they have not said the source code for the IncS.
Anyways, I'm not going to debate it with you anymore. Only time will tell if we get an actual ICS release or not.

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Adding to that, most of us here are already running ICS without their official update lol...
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That has never been in question as that is usually the only way some devices get updates. However, a released stock ROM will always help make things batter.

I have been with Verizon for 10 years about now. I always loved the service but over the last 2 years they are pissing me off. First they screwed over the droidx2. Then the unlimited data is going away and now the Dinc2 might not get what was told we would get. If verizon screws us again I am leaving to another carrier no matter what. I hate verizon at this point.

Definitely getting the feeling of the Eris all over again.

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That has never been in question as that is usually the only way some devices get updates. However, a released stock ROM will always help make things batter.
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Of course, I was just supporting lite that saying our device can't run ICS is BS.
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HTC Facebook answered this for me. ICS end of August.
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I honestly don't even see the point of updating this phone in august.....
I'm definitely jumping to Galaxy S III, never liked sense and probably never will, but that's my 2 cents.

xHoLyx said:
I honestly don't even see the point of updating this phone in august.....
I'm definitely jumping to Galaxy S III, never liked sense and probably never will, but that's my 2 cents.
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Its always good to see updates for older phones....especially since going forward those of us with unlimited data (and want to keep it) can't use upgraded to get cheap phones
Sgs3 will probably fall after the cutoff, and unless I really save up won't get it....the vzw variant will most likely not be as popular as it would have been