Flashing a new radio?? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

noob question here. will i need to flash a new radio after i flash a new rom?? Or if im only flashing the rom does it modify/change the original radio??

homegrown544 said:
noob question here. will i need to flash a new radio after i flash a new rom?? Or if im only flashing the rom does it modify/change the original radio??
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Flashing a custom (OS) rom doesn't change the radio.
Stock ROM packages (at least some, like the T-MoUSA WM6.5) include a radio-rom and this over-writes your existing radio-rom.

That was a fast reply thx. so as long as it is not a carrier's stock rom, no radio change?

homegrown544 said:
That was a fast reply thx. so as long as it is not a carrier's stock rom, no radio change?
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No doubt somebody else can give a more definite answer than I can...but AFAIK that's typically the way it is. I've flashed custom ROMs by at least 6 different cooks and none of them have included radio-roms.

MCbrian said:
No doubt somebody else can give a more definite answer than I can...but AFAIK that's typically the way it is. I've flashed custom ROMs by at least 6 different cooks and none of them have included radio-roms.
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The handful of ROMs I've investigated are all the same, no radio included. IF there are any ROMs that have a specific radio included, I'm sure it would be clearly mentioned in the thread for that ROM.
Having the freedom to flash radios separately from the rest of the ROM is one of the many things that make the TP2 as wonderfully flexible as it is

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Radio included or not ?

Hello a noob question for you guys.
I see some custom ROMS (if not every one) says that you have to have a certain radio version or newer.
then again I see stock ROMS often has a radio version in the file name.
Does that mean that the stock ROMS include the proper radio ? and that i dont need to find a radio seperately ?
thanks
Yes, stock roms such as this RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.15.405.4_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4. 05.00.11_release_122704.exe include an associated radio also.
If you flash a custom rom from the stock rom, you will always have the default stock radio version (e.g. 32.30.00.28U_4. 05.00.11) installed unless you flash a newer radio rom yourself.
You will find that the selection of custom roms will be without radio versions, and the OP will normally provide links to the recommended radio versions that will work with that associated rom, for performance and functionality purposes.
thank you for helpfull info
another one for you
if i want to downgrade to stock sometime, wil the "old" version of the radio overwrite the newer one i might have installed with a custom ROM ?
jorgenask said:
thank you for helpfull info
another one for you
if i want to downgrade to stock sometime, wil the "old" version of the radio overwrite the newer one i might have installed with a custom ROM ?
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If you flash back to a stock rom with the radio version included, then you will also have stock rom and radio installed. The rom image and radio image will be replaced to stock firmware.
You could even flash the stock radio rom individually, list of stock radio's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
thanks for your help
jorgenask said:
thanks for your help
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No problem bud
Quick question leading on from this...if you flash a new radio, does it delete all your apps and settings like when you flash a new rom, or do they survive?
Cheers.
scutworker said:
Quick question leading on from this...if you flash a new radio, does it delete all your apps and settings like when you flash a new rom, or do they survive?
Cheers.
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No, the radio is written to a seperate part of the device, and does not interfere with the OS portion.

[Q] I bought is a Swiss version defy, What should I use rom?

That guy can tell me...
Use the stock rom, until this is no longer a question to you.
ABC_Universal said:
Use the stock rom, until this is no longer a question to you.
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Can you tell me the URL?
Stock rom is whichever rom came with your phone. What I meant was that you should not rush to flash any rom before you realize what you need, what you're looking for, and what the roms offer.
ABC_Universal said:
Stock rom is whichever rom came with your phone. What I meant was that you should not rush to flash any rom before you realize what you need, what you're looking for, and what the roms offer.
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Excellent advice I think. I'd really like to move to froyo (for better camera apps and call recording), but I'm holding it off until I really know what I'm talking about. I see too many people here who flashed a ROM and are now stuck with something (or so it seems) they didn't want.
Before you change your rom, you should create a nandroid backup of your device.
I could not say, if it´s generally possible to change the rom which is branded by your provider.
With my provider and my phone, it was possible (meanwhile on 3.4.2 155-002). So I have no experience with swiss devices, I can´t tell you, that it will work with your phone.

[SOLVED] ROM or Radio first?

Hi there.
Erm.. this is kinda weird question, say that the ROM that you wish you flash requires a different radio from your current one, will you actually flash the new radio first then only the ROM?
Or you will flash ROM then only radio. Will there be any impact?
ROM first.
9 times in 10 it won't make any difference but there's a chance a ROM might replace the radio anyway.
Thanks Mr_JMM!
I think it doesn't matter..You only need to match your libhtc-ril and radio....
Go to see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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I've done ROM then radio about 5 or 6 times now just playing around with different ROM and radio combinations & never had any problems doing it ROM then radio
psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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Yes, ROM first.
Mods: This thread can be marked solved and closed now I think.
However....
SOME ROMs when going from certain radio's to certain radio's have had reports that it is better to flash the radio before the ROM.
This seems to have cropped up with the latest GB Sense ROM's.
So I take it back, as a rule of thumb, flash ROM first, I still stand by that, however, check with the ROM first but be aware such things are usually buried deep in a thread and maybe something that gets fixed with later updated versions of that ROM.
Again. ROM first but when a brand new ROM comes out, specifically the new GB Sense ROM's, check the first 5-10 pages.
At time of post, LeeDroid's ROM v3.0.0 is one such ROM that might work better with Radio flashed first.
My apologies but this info is very very recent.
OK, that could make sense. Thought I stepped in deep doo-doo earlier, but rocked back to life with the nan backup. Scared me all to hell, but I might try flashing the radio, then LeeDroid. When coming from CM7 rc3 - It froze on boot.
I did radio first them ROM and had no issues.
iOO 4.2

ROM Question

So here is a question that I cannot find the answer to. If a ROM like Android Revolution HD is based off the 1.29.401.12 Firmware and I have a 1.29.707.11 based phone, can I install the ROM? I know I would have to unlock and install a custom recovery, but is it possible? I ask because I thought I read somewhere you cant mix firmware updates (ie x.xx.401.xx and x.xx.707.xx) without S-Off or it would cause problems.
Thanks in advance!!
toonhead85
There should be no problem to install latest ARHD ROM. I did it many times coming from stock with different numbers. Any way most of your stock files are reflashed by ROM files. ARHD is universal ROM for any HOX Internatioanal versions.
Since you are replacing the whole firmware, the version of the one you are replacing should not matter.
However, make sure that the new ROM has support for your specific hardware!
/Croaton
Thanks, I shall try the ROM this weekend or next!!

[Q] RIL Confusion

Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.
dragon884 said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.
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Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.
bananagranola said:
Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.
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Just to make it a little more understandable:
Every Rom needs a RIL;
But in many Custom Roms the Devs already build in the RILs;
The RIL must correspond with your Radio; if it doesnt, you will end up with no Reception;
See the quote below and the the related Thread for more detailed Information.
I just followed the discussion some days ago, cause I wanted to update My Desire HD to the latest Radio, and didn't wanted to brick my phone.
It's always better to understand why things behave like they do, instead of follow some instruction without being aware whats happening.
ShadowPony said:
I don't entirely agree with your statements.
EVERY ROM comes with a RIL. Period. No exception, otherwise the radio doesn't work.
For AOSP ROMs there is a RIL, but have not seen it apart from ROM.
With Sense everything gets weirder because HTC released a new RIL for almost any combination of Sense with OS (at least until ICS, where old RILs no longer function properly)
even with any sense ROM, you can only flash the baseband (radio), and if you have reception problems, then also go for the RIL
also, the latest radio with RIL is: 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30564790#post30564790 (this thread)
@o4kareg, GetRIL reports matching baseband/RIL for me with 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M and the corresponding RIL
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Greetings from Cologne
unbeteiligter
I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!
hardsoft said:
I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!
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Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.
unbeteiligter said:
Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.
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So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.
dragon884 said:
So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.
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Unless you have a GB Sense ROM, just use the RIL that came with the ROM.

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