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[SOLVED] ROM or Radio first?

Hi there.
Erm.. this is kinda weird question, say that the ROM that you wish you flash requires a different radio from your current one, will you actually flash the new radio first then only the ROM?
Or you will flash ROM then only radio. Will there be any impact?

ROM first.
9 times in 10 it won't make any difference but there's a chance a ROM might replace the radio anyway.

Thanks Mr_JMM!

I think it doesn't matter..You only need to match your libhtc-ril and radio....
Go to see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986

im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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I've done ROM then radio about 5 or 6 times now just playing around with different ROM and radio combinations & never had any problems doing it ROM then radio

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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Yes, ROM first.
Mods: This thread can be marked solved and closed now I think.

However....
SOME ROMs when going from certain radio's to certain radio's have had reports that it is better to flash the radio before the ROM.
This seems to have cropped up with the latest GB Sense ROM's.
So I take it back, as a rule of thumb, flash ROM first, I still stand by that, however, check with the ROM first but be aware such things are usually buried deep in a thread and maybe something that gets fixed with later updated versions of that ROM.
Again. ROM first but when a brand new ROM comes out, specifically the new GB Sense ROM's, check the first 5-10 pages.
At time of post, LeeDroid's ROM v3.0.0 is one such ROM that might work better with Radio flashed first.
My apologies but this info is very very recent.

OK, that could make sense. Thought I stepped in deep doo-doo earlier, but rocked back to life with the nan backup. Scared me all to hell, but I might try flashing the radio, then LeeDroid. When coming from CM7 rc3 - It froze on boot.

I did radio first them ROM and had no issues.
iOO 4.2

[Q] What radio to go with when flashing to RCMix HD v6.0.0.1?

I'm about to use RCMix HD and hopefully stick with it, I have no idea which radio to get though and I can't post in the thread itself yet, hopefully someone can give me an idea of what radio to get, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thankyou.

Hello,
I was under the impression that the RCmix 6.0.0.1 would come with the latest radio and matched RIL from the latest release that it is based off. I am new to ROMing so dont take my word for it though.
Please post back your results.

I've been using;
Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_test
RIL_12.35d.60.140f_26.08.03.07_M
its been the best that ive used so far (used it with RCMix HD v6 and with Android Revolution HD 5.1).

RoBe30 said:
Hello,
I was under the impression that the RCmix 6.0.0.1 would come with the latest radio and matched RIL from the latest release that it is based off. I am new to ROMing so dont take my word for it though.
Please post back your results.
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I think the RIL is included, i didnt think the radio was....then again i'm new to this whole thing as well!

I don't even know what an RIL is, haha, do I need one?

RIL stands for Radio Interface Layer. As i understand it the software that allows the rom to talk to the radio. I have also read that people have had successful results without updating the RIL. I havnt updated mine and it works fine.

The RIL is apparently only needed for sense ROMS (RCMix, CoreDroid, ARHD etc.). Non-sense roms (such as CM7) dont require a RIL.
As far as I know, a radio will still work without the matching RIL, but it just works better with the correct RIL

Which RIL should I install?

Hello folks,
Reading through this thread, I installed both Radio + RIL
Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Zip file md5: 53d9675cd8ca8c970a5f25bc39b3275c
Radio md5: 3ca0e9784c6fd610c0d95391f2bc9245
RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Download: [Multiupload]
Zip file md5: 84d1a0bdd08ca1d55f37e2f94c9a70d3
My DHD went catatonic and for several hours it had everything but GSM (No Service, Baseband Unknown, all that). I flashed (without wiping) the Cyanogen again and GSM was restored.
Now, to my question:
At present, I have
Baseband = 26.13.04.19
RIL = 2.2.0018G
Since the matching 26.13.04.19 RIL in this thread didn't play nice, could someone verify/recommend:
1. Which RIL to use for best results
2. Which method for flashing to use
Thank you all

43-gsm-android said:
Hello folks,
Reading through this thread, I installed both Radio + RIL
Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Zip file md5: 53d9675cd8ca8c970a5f25bc39b3275c
Radio md5: 3ca0e9784c6fd610c0d95391f2bc9245
RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M
Download: [Multiupload]
Zip file md5: 84d1a0bdd08ca1d55f37e2f94c9a70d3
My DHD went catatonic and for several hours it had everything but GSM (No Service, Baseband Unknown, all that). I flashed (without wiping) the Cyanogen again and GSM was restored.
Now, to my question:
At present, I have
Baseband = 26.13.04.19
RIL = 2.2.0018G
Since the matching 26.13.04.19 RIL in this thread didn't play nice, could someone verify/recommend:
1. Which RIL to use for best results
2. Which method for flashing to use
Thank you all
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All of the RILs in that thread are for Sense ROMs and most likely won't work with cyanogenmod (if you're using a recent cm7 nightly there was a change made to allow HTC RILs but I haven't seen anyone confirm it as working here).
I never bothered changing RILs on cm7 anyway, I always just changed the radio and I never had any issues.
Edit: just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.

hopscotchjunkie said:
All of the RILs in that thread are for Sense ROMs and most likely won't work with cyanogenmod (if you're using a recent cm7 nightly there was a change made to allow HTC RILs but I haven't seen anyone confirm it as working here).
I never bothered changing RILs on cm7 anyway, I always just changed the radio and I never had any issues.
Edit: just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
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Thanks for the clear message - at this point, I am *astounded* at the battery performance of the new Radio. I guess except for the Radio, there is no need to push it with RIL in my case. I have NEVER before seen my DHD survive from 07:00 till 17:00 on a single charge. As at moment of writing, I have 89% battery remaining.
Thank you, XDA, thank you, CyanogenMod - you guys gave me my phone back!

hopscotchjunkie said:
just noticed from your other post that you're using cm7.1 - in that case none of those RILs will work.
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Why?. Could you give details? Actrually Cyanogen´s ROMs use HTC RILs.
43-gsm-android said:
I am *astounded* at the battery performance of the new Radio
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Are you sure that this *great* performances cames from the new radio?
Won´t it be motivated by the fact of reflashing a CM ROM again (thus cleaning your system)?

elreymon said:
Why?. Could you give details? Actrually Cyanogen´s ROMs use HTC RILs.
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The experimental ability to use HM RILs was added in a cyanogen nightly build released later than the Release Candidate version of cm7.1 that he was using at the time of this post. Hence my original statement that they might work if he was using a later nightly, followed by the edit when I saw what he was actually using.

Recommended AOSP Ril

Recommended AOSP Ril for the latest radio? If I flash the current ril for the latest radio on MIUI, I lose all my signals and cant even make a phone call. can anyone suggest me a ril to go along well with the latest radio?
thanks!
my radio/ril info is in my sig.

P00t said:
Recommended AOSP Ril for the latest radio? If I flash the current ril for the latest radio on MIUI, I lose all my signals and cant even make a phone call. can anyone suggest me a ril to go along well with the latest radio?
thanks!
my radio/ril info is in my sig.
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2.2.0018G works fine here on SCI MIUI with that radio, 2.2.1003G worked alright as well on BlackIce (seemed to drain a little more but I was changing a lot of settings at the time so odds are it wasn't anything to do with the RIL at all).
I never bother changing the RIL from whatever comes with the ROM if I'm on an AOSP base; seems to be largely a waste of time. Unless there's some terrible problem after you flash a new radio which could only possibly be solved by using a different set of interface layer files, just leave them be.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.

[Q] Any such thing as *fully* working ICS/JB + Sense4 ROM?

Hi Everyone,
Long time listener, first time caller.
Over the last couple of months, I have tried virtually every ROM I can get my hands on for my DHD, and I always do a full wipe (format) of /system, /data, /cache, Dalvik, and .android_secure before install.
The only ICS ROM I can get working fully is Blackout, but it is Sense 3.6.
I have tried Viper, and *really* like it, but Bluetooth is broken (in 1.2.0, .1, .2, and .3)
That seems to be the case for me with Sense 4 ROMs (lite or full); if Bluetooth works, then WiFi is broken. If WiFi works, then Bluetooth is broken.
ROMs I've tried (latest):
Viper
Miui
Jellytime
ARHD
Blackout (S3.6, which is where I'm at b/c it works)
IceCold
IceSense
CosmicSandwich
Sabsa
codefireX
Kernels I've tried (various releases up to latest):
Beastmode
KangBang
Virtuous
So, I'd like to know if there is such a thing as a fully-working ICS/JB ROM with Sense 4? I cant seem to find one. W/o Bluetooth and WiFi, nothing can be considered a "daily driver", imo... especially w/o Bluetooth, if you know what I mean.
Thanks!

I'm baffled; all of those ROMs should have both BT and wifi fully working. What's your recovery and version?
EDIT: and what's your radio?

coolhands said:
Hi Everyone,
Long time listener, first time caller.
Over the last couple of months, I have tried virtually every ROM I can get my hands on for my DHD, and I always do a full wipe (format) of /system, /data, /cache, Dalvik, and .android_secure before install.
The only ICS ROM I can get working fully is Blackout, but it is Sense 3.6.
I have tried Viper, and *really* like it, but Bluetooth is broken (in 1.2.0, .1, .2, and .3)
That seems to be the case for me with Sense 4 ROMs (lite or full); if Bluetooth works, then WiFi is broken. If WiFi works, then Bluetooth is broken.
ROMs I've tried (latest):
Viper
Miui
Jellytime
ARHD
Blackout (S3.6, which is where I'm at b/c it works)
IceCold
IceSense
CosmicSandwich
Sabsa
codefireX
Kernels I've tried (various releases up to latest):
Beastmode
KangBang
Virtuous
So, I'd like to know if there is such a thing as a fully-working ICS/JB ROM with Sense 4? I cant seem to find one. W/o Bluetooth and WiFi, nothing can be considered a "daily driver", imo... especially w/o Bluetooth, if you know what I mean.
Thanks!
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bananagranola said:
I'm baffled; all of those ROMs should have both BT and wifi fully working. What's your recovery and version?
EDIT: and what's your radio?
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Same here, bluetooth is one of the few things that ALWAYS work (except for 4.2.1, but that's expected).
Are you wipping between flashes ?

Thanks for the replies, guys.
As I outlined above, yes, I am fully wiping b/t ROM installs - even restores - please see my method in first post.
I am using ClockworkMod Recovery (HBoot for booting) and have paid for ROM Manager, which entitles me to further updates to CWM than what is available on Play. I currently have 5.8.1.5 installed (CWM Touch).
The radio varies from ROM to ROM it seems, and I should have documented which version in each ROM, but right now, in Blackout, it is reporting 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M. <--- That number stays consistent, afaik, but the first letter will change (U and T, iirc).
When I say that Bluetooth doesnt work, specifically what happens is that it either doesnt pair with any device, or if it does pair, no sound will be transmitted or the pairing will only last for a second, maybe two seconds at most.

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The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.

bananagranola said:
The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.
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I dont know much about that, but with that said, I just re-flashed Viper 1.2.3 and my radio now reads:
12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M, which is different than it was above with Blackout.
I have not tried re-flashing my radio manually. I wouldnt know which one would give me a better chance of success...

bananagranola said:
The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.
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Once I flash a new ROM, the kernel and the radio are the same I had or the new ROM comes with its own kernel and radio?
Thanks in advance

roms do not come with radios tho they do have their own kernels. Radios are region based not rom based so there is no rom specific radio just what works best in your area.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
roms do not come with radios tho they do have their own kernels. Radios are region based not rom based so there is no rom specific radio just what works best in your area.
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Thanks for the explanation. So, if I bought my mobile in Spain, the radio is different if I had bought, for example in France?

depends on how close they are to each other whether same service is used in Spain as in France or if they are totally two different service. I would Google the carrier you use then see what radio they shipped with. Even in the radio thread you may find an answer to which radio is good for you in the area your at.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
depends on how close they are to each other whether same service is used in Spain as in France or if they are totally two different service. I would Google the carrier you use then see what radio they shipped with. Even in the radio thread you may find an answer to which radio is good for you in the area your at.
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Thanks a lot. I gonna do what you have said

you have tried almost every rom except for the ( pacman rom v18 ) its a jelly bean 4.1.2 based rom , i am stuck with it , every thing is working perfectly ( wifi , bluetooth , camera .... etc )
with some common tweaks i get an excellent battery life ,its even better than it was in the stock gingerbread rom ...
by the way , its non-sense rom

ghassan haddad said:
you have tried almost every rom except for the ( pacman rom v18 ) its a jelly bean 4.1.2 based rom , i am stuck with it , every thing is working perfectly ( wifi , bluetooth , camera .... etc )
with some common tweaks i get an excellent battery life ,its even better than it was in the stock gingerbread rom ...
by the way , its non-sense rom
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I'll try it. Thanks.
What are the "common tweaks" for battery life?

coolhands said:
I'll try it. Thanks.
What are the "common tweaks" for battery life?
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