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Hello,
I'm raising big hopes about the scheduled WM6 upgrade (i'm waiting for the official one, not t-mobile's or russian one) but in the meantime, do you know if there is an working SIP client for my s620 ?
By working, i mean that the audio is correctly routed, I don't want to use an headset.
I've tried fring, skype, bewip, gosip. I don't mind purchasing a piece of software if it work well.
Thanks
as much as i know.. the very best (for the moment) is skype..
and the headset i think it is not big deal to use..
just my opinion..
Oh, pick me! I know the answer! Me! Me! Me!
Well, if you wanna go proprietary, Skype'll do the job. But you want SIP, so that puts Skype right out. The correct answer was Fring™. Fring is a free MSN/ICQ/Skype/SIP client that claims to operate over WiFi and GPRS. I've only tested it over WiFi, and I'm doubtful that GPRS will be enough to make it work right (EDGE, maybe). Thankfully, Fring™ is free, and all you have to do is go to their web site. The entire process can even be done on your phone.
I could never get the WM6 Internet Calling app to work. Others have reported that the connection drops (although the wi-fi connection is still up) after 15 minutes. Another user and myself had the same config (aside from username/password and phone number), his worked, mine didn't.
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
Greg530 said:
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
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Yes, but the fact I can't have sound from earpiece is a problem...
Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.
SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE
since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.
I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.
Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.
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Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.
I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223
Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
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Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
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Hmmmm .... I don't believe you ever stated what type of headset you are trying to get working here? I find your problem to be very strange, even though WinMo does seem to be lacking in a lot of different areas, audio streaming via bluetooth stereo headset is definitely not a problem I have encountered. It even streams flawlessly through my 5.1 hooked to my pc via a crappy 8 buck bt dongle and still sounds excellent. Have you considered that the problem may lie with your bt headset itself?
Also, when you say that you installed latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site), what exactly do you mean? I am running the "unofficial" leaked rom from AT&T on mine and I just paired my Motorola S9 stereo headset and it is playing great for me. You also may want to try using some different software, give S2P (Slide 2 Play) a try and see if you have different results. That's what I am using right now, but I have used TCPMP to play a few xVids through my headset and have had no problems.
The problem is not in the head unit. 25 other phones can't all be wrong. I have no problem using my bluetooth headset. That is probably why you don't see the problem. Anything more complex than a headset will not work with this release. The problem lies within the phone as soon as it displays a notification (which, of course I cannot disable) which reads, "The connected Bluetooth headset does not support volume adjustment from the device. Adjust volume on the headset itself."
That message is the kiss of death. So basically any Bluetooth head unit will not work with this phone? Sounds like shoddy programming to me. Yes, I am using the "leaked" release. I really don't think this release will ever see the light of day. Its horrible! You cannot disable notifications (I don't need to know when my text messages were sent successfully), and it looks like whenever I get a system notification, any program I am using crashes immediately. Like I said before, as soon as I get a notification, I lose the Bluetooth connection (which is like a split second before the notification comes up). I highly doubt this "leaked" copy will ever see the light of day, officially (unless AT&T and HTC do absolutely zero testing on it).
A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
My Tilt 2 works absolutely fine with all my BT devices, including 2 Motorola headphone sets and my Sony Xplod head unit in my truck.
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A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
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I was mis-understanding you about the head unit, I did think you were talking about a headset. Sorry bout that, my Mustang doesn't have built-in BT so I have to use a Motorokr t505 for those chores. It works well but it does give me the same message that you are getting about "volume can't be cotrolled etc" but I can dismiss it and carry on without any problems.
but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
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Since you don't need your phone for calls, just get Sirius or XM. Ya know, considering you only stream music through the phone..
Did you try the BT headset or head unit with the original stock ROM before you flashed the "leaked official" ROM?
Seems like you might have a couple random issues, with the BT issues and the system notifications crashing programs. I haven't flashed the leaked ROM, but I do know that many random issues with cooked ROMs can often be cleared up by running Task29, which completely wipes the phone memory before you flash a new ROM. I think you will need to HardSPL before you run Task29. Might be worth a try, sometimes fragments of the old ROM interfere with the new one, and cause some bugs.
Bluetooth protocols can be implemented differently by different manufacturers.
I know of many people including myself who have NO PROBLEM with the tilt 2 and different Bluetooth products INCLUDING car radios.
I am using the "new" AT&T ROM and have no difficulties.
Clearly your pissed but your subject is wrong. I would suggest changing to "Worthless as $HIT to ME"
I think my problem is that I am getting notifications which seem to be killing my connection. Is there a way to turn all notifications OFF? The only ones I care about are missed calls, incoming SMS and maybe a birthday. I would like to try to kill the notifications first because I think this may solve my problem
You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/enable-or-disable-the-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/tweak-and-configure-how-notifications-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
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You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...he-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...cations-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
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Thanks I will try these out and report back
For the record my head unit is a JVC KD-BT11 and I have never had any kind of problem pairing any other phone
Somebody else just posted a very similar issue, and found the app hAndyUtils to be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741311
I think hAndyUtils might just be a app-based way to make the reg edits I posted earlier. But give it a try.
I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack. (Just as an aside, on all my past phones, there were people bemoaning the the fact that it had MS, and trying to replace it with the Widcomm, so I am getting a real chuckle out of folks complaining about the Widcomm and wishing for MS )
In any case, the utilities (Blue music toggle etc...) that used to work for me to toggle between streaming in stereo and plain phone qulity no longer work. However, all my stereo headsets (I own three different brands/pairs) all work perfectly with the Tilt 2. And stay connected and streaming all day.
By the way, coming on a forum that is full of people helping each other and using profanity, anger and threats, is not the most conducive way to get your questions answered. The odds are that the problem you are having is already solved somewhere among the 6+ million posts in this forum. I do not know where or I would post it for you, but it is probably out there. Good luck. And if you find it, please post the link to the answer back here so that other serchers will find it too.
maybe it can come from the phone itself
i had a rhodium for almost a year and never got my motorola headset ht820 to work well enough for me to use it... (more skips than music...cant move my head without a skip)
i flashed to a NRG rom before trying my headset...i tried eveything as far as ref setting, different radios...even flashed my ht820...
no improvement...
then my phone fell in water not so long ago...got another rhodium same model (european)...and it worked perfect out the box on stock rom i can go in a different room than my device and still hear music with no skips...and it still does with nrg rom and latest radio...
so my guess is maybe some actual devices have bad bluetooth hardware ???
I have the Motorola S9 and the HT820 and both work absolutely fine on my Tilt 2.
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I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack.
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Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
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Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
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Did you ever try the solution in this thread? It fixed a lot of issues people were having with bluetooth car kits. Maybe it will work for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591322
The solution source is here: http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/moto-q-9c/q9c-and-infiniti-g35x-bluetooth-problem-16833-4.html
And here is the solution. You need a registry editor to do this:
1. Modify the HandsFree plug-in:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\HandsFree
i. Change SupportedFeatures to 45 (default is 1135)
ii. Add value HFBDA binary, set to same value as LastConnectedBda
iii. Add value HFDeviceType decimal 2
2. Modify the WIDCOMM bluetooth general settings:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\General
i. Change bdaddr to (no value)
ii. Change (or add if not there) DisableReopenAudio to 0 (default is 1)
3. Reboot device
You may also want to do the A2DP quality registry edit: Add a DWORD value of LineSpeed to HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\AV\ with a value of 320.
Give it a try, it may work for you.
I will give this a try and report back. Thank you very much for the response!
No luck. And my bdaddr keeps resetting to a binary value when I reset the phone
I have a qtek 8310 smartphone brick style nontouchscreen using a updated 6.5 standard, sleuth's voip cab that installs voip and adds internet calling into phone settings, KaiserVOIP to input my sip server details, and a custom cab file that replaces the ipdialplan. I can call out fine, but I get this echo problem that is insane to hear on the receivers end. I can also hear my own echo too.
Now the only audio routing software that actually works on my tornado phone is audioswitch. I am unable to install audioroute. With audioswitch, I can plug in my wired headset which I dont prefer, but when I use it, there is no sound coming out of my mic. I can hear perfectly fine though.
I tried using Fring, without audioswitch, in a test call inside fring's app, I can talk and hear myself fine. But when Im talking to an actual person through SIP, they hear echos. Same thing if I used the windows mobile SIP and called a google voice # and leave a message to test my mic, it actually sounds fine and no echo which is so odd to me.
I went through 100s of threads on the forum, but cant find a solution because a lot of topic hijacking that doesnt have much to do with the SIP mic problem itself. As a frustrated member, that is about to slam dunk my phone into the toilet, I would like to see if anyone be kind of enough to help me out if you have find a solution that works.
I like to use SIP without having to connect my wired headset, and bt headset, just like any other normal phone call.
Hi Im look to get someone to figure out how to get caller id,sms, and interent over bluetooth to work on windows phone. Im willing to pay 50$ for such an app.
You can already get the phone to speak the caller ID over a Bluetooth headset. In fact, I thought it did by default? I can't find a place to turn it off.
For SMS, go into Settings -> Speech. There's an option for "Read aloud incoming text messages". If you enable this (I have it set for "Bluetooth only" but you can also set it to work for wired headsets, always, or never) then the phone will say to you "Incoming message from <name>" (or <number> if it doesn't know the name) "You can say 'read it' or 'ignore'" and the phone will then listen for your response; if you say 'read it' the phone will read you the message and then give you the option of also replying by voice.
As for Internet over Bluetooth, that could be either tethering via BT (have a PC access your phone's Internet connection over BT) or joining a BT network (enable BT networking on you PC and share the Internet connection through it, then connect your phone to that). So far, I don't know of anybody who has gotten either of those to work. The official Internet Sharing feature has some hidden options that make it look like it should support using BT, but basically nobody seems to use BT networking anyhow, so maybe that wasn't implemented.
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You can already get the phone to speak the caller ID over a Bluetooth headset. In fact, I thought it did by default? I can't find a place to turn it off.
For SMS, go into Settings -> Speech. There's an option for "Read aloud incoming text messages". If you enable this (I have it set for "Bluetooth only" but you can also set it to work for wired headsets, always, or never) then the phone will say to you "Incoming message from <name>" (or <number> if it doesn't know the name) "You can say 'read it' or 'ignore'" and the phone will then listen for your response; if you say 'read it' the phone will read you the message and then give you the option of also replying by voice.
As for Internet over Bluetooth, that could be either tethering via BT (have a PC access your phone's Internet connection over BT) or joining a BT network (enable BT networking on you PC and share the Internet connection through it, then connect your phone to that). So far, I don't know of anybody who has gotten either of those to work. The official Internet Sharing feature has some hidden options that make it look like it should support using BT, but basically nobody seems to use BT networking anyhow, so maybe that wasn't implemented.
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on a side note but still related,
i think MS saw the writing on the wall for most of the BT stack along time ago, most of whats left is pretty much "it will do" cant say i really miss whats missing
i love the irony of users now trying to make WP like WM after spending a long time moaning about WM
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You can already get the phone to speak the caller ID over a Bluetooth headset. In fact, I thought it did by default? I can't find a place to turn it off.
For SMS, go into Settings -> Speech. There's an option for "Read aloud incoming text messages". If you enable this (I have it set for "Bluetooth only" but you can also set it to work for wired headsets, always, or never) then the phone will say to you "Incoming message from <name>" (or <number> if it doesn't know the name) "You can say 'read it' or 'ignore'" and the phone will then listen for your response; if you say 'read it' the phone will read you the message and then give you the option of also replying by voice.
As for Internet over Bluetooth, that could be either tethering via BT (have a PC access your phone's Internet connection over BT) or joining a BT network (enable BT networking on you PC and share the Internet connection through it, then connect your phone to that). So far, I don't know of anybody who has gotten either of those to work. The official Internet Sharing feature has some hidden options that make it look like it should support using BT, but basically nobody seems to use BT networking anyhow, so maybe that wasn't implemented.
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yes i know of these but i want the caller id to be able to be sent as text over bluetooth. for example to show up on another screen saying xxxxx is calling you. Same goes for sms.
as for internet im talking about having your device provide interent to your computer or tablet via bluetooth
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GoodDayToDie said:
You can already get the phone to speak the caller ID over a Bluetooth headset. In fact, I thought it did by default? I can't find a place to turn it off.
For SMS, go into Settings -> Speech. There's an option for "Read aloud incoming text messages". If you enable this (I have it set for "Bluetooth only" but you can also set it to work for wired headsets, always, or never) then the phone will say to you "Incoming message from <name>" (or <number> if it doesn't know the name) "You can say 'read it' or 'ignore'" and the phone will then listen for your response; if you say 'read it' the phone will read you the message and then give you the option of also replying by voice.
As for Internet over Bluetooth, that could be either tethering via BT (have a PC access your phone's Internet connection over BT) or joining a BT network (enable BT networking on you PC and share the Internet connection through it, then connect your phone to that). So far, I don't know of anybody who has gotten either of those to work. The official Internet Sharing feature has some hidden options that make it look like it should support using BT, but basically nobody seems to use BT networking anyhow, so maybe that wasn't implemented.
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BT PAN & DUN are not supported profiles. In other words, tethering is available only through USB (if your particular device supports it) or wi-fi (same caveat).
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dazza9075 said:
on a side note but still related,
i think MS saw the writing on the wall for most of the BT stack along time ago, most of whats left is pretty much "it will do" cant say i really miss whats missing
i love the irony of users now trying to make WP like WM after spending a long time moaning about WM
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That moaning you hear is because you expect progress in the realm of technology. Windows Mobile runs rings around any other OS as far as connectivity is concerned. This is how you can connect your laptop to the internet with Windows Mobile:
1. Bluetooth PAN
2. Bluetooth DUN
3. USB
4. Wi-Fi
Only the freeTether homebrew on webOS gets near that (no DUN). Here's the kicker: DUN is client-side initiated so you don't even have to unholster your phone. Sorry dude, I need a tool and not a toy. My daughter plays with the iEtch-A-Sketch.
Display of callers name is a function of the BT device not the phone. My car hands-free displays caller ID because contacts were sync'd to it from the phone.
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Aah, I do miss the BT PAN. Maybe the user wants to save on battery power, I know I would.
Vukile said:
Aah, I do miss the BT PAN. Maybe the user wants to save on battery power, I know I would.
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*walks into old thread that has some relevance to him* Bluetooth PAN has more than just laptop and tablet tethering uses. Smart accessories, such as smart watches and (most likely based on what ive read) the upcoming Google Glass require such capabilities. New technologies are coming out that connect to your phone via this very feature. If your phone does not have this, youre sunk.
does anyone know if there is any way to use pan in windows phone?
There is no reason it can't be added, but I suspect it won't be added
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dazza9075 said:
There is no reason it can't be added, but I suspect it won't be added
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-w- im committed to windows phone, but I find it silly the things they leave out (and have removed.)
I mean, pan wouldn't be too hard to add I would think... also, there is Play music voice command and a return of the lockscreen
music controls that is needed (with an option to disable it for those who complain saying "its still running! I want them gone.")....
Microsoft seems to of not heard the saying "If its not broke don't fix it." instead they heard "If its not broke fix it before it is."
I am really looking forward to Glass but if it wont work with my phone that sucks. same with smartwatches.
Glass half empty again?
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