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I was wondering if there was a way to replace the windows mobile with symbian or something of that sort, im not a big fan of microsoft. i lurked in the forums and i did find the android being tested to work on it, but its still in progress, i was wondering if perhaps symbian has been put into this fone. i didnt find anything in the forums answering it exactly...

r4itei said:
I was wondering if there was a way to replace the windows mobile with symbian or something of that sort, im not a big fan of microsoft. i lurked in the forums and i did find the android being tested to work on it, but its still in progress, i was wondering if perhaps symbian has been put into this fone. i didnt find anything in the forums answering it exactly...
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Not at the moment, the Android port is still very much a work in progress. I think Symbian is going open-source but as I understand it, it's just the core operating system that is going open-source. The Series 60 interface used by Nokia phones is proprietary and I think so is the UIQ interface for some Sony Ericsson phones - so don't expect to see your Excalibur looking like a Nokia E71 (for instance!) any time soon.
I would give WM a try though. Paradoxically for Microsoft, it's one of the more open mobile phone platforms out there - at least there is a fairly big market for applications and it's actually fairly easy to write your own against the .NET compact framework.
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plus there are many great WM roms on this forum, one for just about every tast out there

r4itei said:
I was wondering if there was a way to replace the windows mobile with symbian or something of that sort, im not a big fan of microsoft. i lurked in the forums and i did find the android being tested to work on it, but its still in progress, i was wondering if perhaps symbian has been put into this fone. i didnt find anything in the forums answering it exactly...
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n900 vs Touch Pro 2

N900 seems superior to the TP2 in every way except the keyboard, is anyone else thinking about getting an n900? 5 megapixel camera with dual led flash, decent keyboard, fast processor, great multimedia capabilities, upnp, 32gb built in with sd expansion... what does the touch pro 2 have over it?

RTbar said:
... what does the touch pro 2 have over it?
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The N900 seems like a nice phone, but I prefer the stylus, hand writing recognition, windows mobile, and XDA support that the TP2 has to offer.

I got a TP2, waiting to get N900 when it's release. Do what I do, then you wont have to decide between 2 phones lol.

Agree with sakshaug007
Strange...
Coming to an HTC specialized forum like XDA to say that n900 is better?
Don't really think so...it has symbian on it...
TP2 with WM is just great!

orb3000 said:
Agree with sakshaug007
Strange...
Coming to an HTC specialized forum like XDA to say that n900 is better?
Don't really think so...it has symbian on it...
TP2 with WM is just great!
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no symbian... maemo... and my father has a TP2 which I've been customizing for him and playing with and I agree it's an awesome phone. I wouldn't mind having either one, but the N900 clearly has superior hardware except for keyboard

ok maemo whatever, is not WM...
And hardware keyboard is more than enough to go for it!

Sorry, I got to say that these "this versus that" topics are useless. Don't let a couple of forum users sway your opinion. There are numerous text/video reviews of the TP2. And when the N900 releases, it will receive the same treatment from reviewers. Make your own decision based on your needs and preferences.
And forget specs. Just check out that monstrosity that Toshiba made (TG01).

For me TP2 is a better choice than Nokia. The large touchscreen, qwerty keyboard. And I got diamond 2. I like it very much. So if I have to choose one, I'd get HTC. I even don't know how to change message tones on n900.
The deciding fact is people themselves not the phones.

I will definitely get the N900 once it's released in the US and after the initial price drop. The TP2 will be my back up phone.
Maemo (true Linux OS) + faster processor (OMAP3) + more RAM (256MB & 768MB virtual) + more space (32GB) + better camera

i prefer tp2
tp2 is my choice

I had a N800, and I think the major problems with it were lack of developers and the high price tag for the N810. Maybe the N900 will spur new Maemo growth with subsidized prices, but the MSRP needs to go down a lot. It's fun to be able to run Debian on a mobile device, just not all that useful at the end of the day (for me, at least).
Other than that, I think we can all agree that the TP2 needs a better camera and flash.

True, the TP2 is lacking, but the N900 won't have 3G in the States, I believe, not that there's a lot out available anyways...

whatledog said:
True, the TP2 is lacking, but the N900 won't have 3G in the States, I believe, not that there's a lot out available anyways...
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It has T-mobile 3g bands

RTbar said:
It has T-mobile 3g bands
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Yeap and it's just perfect for me

I think both are great "phones", so everyone needs to decide for themselves. That having siad: it has been stated on a website (fprgot the URTL) that the N900 only has landscape view and no portrait. If that is true, then the N900 is not a real replacement/competito to the TP2

kuzibri said:
I think both are great "phones", so everyone needs to decide for themselves. That having siad: it has been stated on a website (fprgot the URTL) that the N900 only has landscape view and no portrait. If that is true, then the N900 is not a real replacement/competito to the TP2
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I haven't heard that, but even the N800/N810 could do rotation through a switching app (through a kernel hack). And I thought the N900 was supposed to have an accelerometer. It worked quite well on the N8x even without one...

I think a lot of features for the n900 are forthcoming, they just wanted to release it asap... as far as rotation they said that devs are free to include it into their apps, weather it is integrated on the ui level remains to be seen.
Two things concern me though, the lack of buttons which the tp2 has, and the lack of XDA support... I don't know how talented the maemo developers are but I don't imagine they are as good as some of the guys here... time will tell

the standard view of the N900 is landscape, so you need (extra) software to rotate it to portrait, which is IMHO cumbersome.
For the rest I agree with RTbar

orb3000 said:
ok maemo whatever, is not WM...
And hardware keyboard is more than enough to go for it!
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orb3000 said:
Agree with sakshaug007
Strange...
Coming to an HTC specialized forum like XDA to say that n900 is better?
Don't really think so...it has symbian on it...
TP2 with WM is just great!
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You are assuming that everyone is as much a wm fanboy as yourself. We get that your pro wm but to say that he cant come into an htc forum and tell hem what he can and cant say....Thats just being thick and limited on your part. What do you think of Android on HTC phones!? Go to the Hero section and say that too then.
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Sorry, I got to say that these "this versus that" topics are useless. Don't let a couple of forum users sway your opinion. There are numerous text/video reviews of the TP2. And when the N900 releases, it will receive the same treatment from reviewers. Make your own decision based on your needs and preferences.
And forget specs. Just check out that monstrosity that Toshiba made (TG01).
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Why would these topics be useless. He is a asking a legitamate question. He is torn between phones and asking knowledgeable community what they think. Many others may be on the fence about which phone to get.
Also I see that when asked about specs on the tp2 (which are ****) the common tp2 enthusiasts defensive is to compare a device loaded with specs but **** on gui like the TG01. Come on, like that is the only device that is has better specs as yet. Check out the B7610 omnia pro.

@ ORB Stop being so limited, Its competition. You want other phones to be better to increase competition, hence HTC will keep pumping out phones that are better and better. IE nvidia v. ATI. SEE QUOTE not directed at PILOT
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A, orb3000, we all know this is a htc forum, but we still like to be kept abreast of the latest technology, we want people like newforce to post this type of news as it gives us an idea of what hardware other manufacterers are putting in the devices
so when u write "Not of much interest here as we dedicate to HTC devices only", this just isnt true as we want this type of info to keep us clued in.
just because this is a htc devices forum doesnt mean we dont want people to contirbute news on other hardware.
B, NewForce, this is and always has been a htc device thread and its not changing anytime soon
but like i said above posts can be made on other hardware models unless its a post asking for a forum
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Nokia n900

I know xda developers is mostly a windows mobile and android sit but I would like a n900 section on xda developers it would really boost the hacking scene because we all know this is the best place for smartphone hacking and the n900 is the best device to hack it would almost be like love. What do you guys think.

Welcome to forums
This has been discussed many times and answer remains no. (as far as I know)

I love the idea!
I am thinking in moving on to this weird and wonderful device/os.
Even though it seems to have only a few applications available directly I've read that the Linux on it is based on Debian and if you know your way around linux you can download almost any Debian app. and what I often see here is people wanting to get their hands on some phone with linux in it or some version of linux for their phones. In a way this one offers all this but, yes, it is a Nokia device, so what?
I will still keep one of my HTC/Wimo devices but will scrap the rest!
I want always on full internet and other geeky stuff.
So there Orb! Put it in your pipe and smoke it!

Hey all,
I am a happy owner of a n900 and it is the first time I am so excited with a mobile device since my first symbian phone. What amazes me with the device is its 'open' character, meaning that you buy the hardware, with maemo ofcourse, but the device is meant to be exploited. you can dual (triple) boot running android, meego and maemo, you can port many applications (Qt 4.6.2 Gui required), you can compile yourself stuff, run a debian VM with easy-debian.
Since most of applications are linux ported, there is loads of stuff you can do. Am example I enjoy is you can run an x11vnc server on your n900 and remote access it from anywhere with a vnc client. Other fancy stuff such to connect the n900 to your tv, run an Amiga emulator, bind your ps3 controller over BT, and start playing.
It's (very easy) overclockable, GPU runs great, VoIP services as a charm (Skype Video is now added), and most important in a really good multitasking environement. And ofcourse the moment you want to call your phone will response very very fast.
While it does all of the above, it does give you an iPhone feeling in terms of ease of use and device polishing.
On the downside, until today the software was limited except if you were a linux pro as very well mentioned above. The new 1.2 upgrade with Qt support broadens the range and posibiliteis quite a lot. For me, only support for Flash 10 is also a big issue for now, and i really hope it gets addressed soon.
It is bulky (related to iPhone likes) - nothing new here.
Bottom end, I tend to agree it doesn't fit to this forum. this forum was always about smartphones. This is one a tiny marvelous computer that can make GSM calls too. I think its a bit advanced for this site ;-)
rGrds
George

phones with resistive and cheap plastic like feeling screens always put me down.....

go to MAEMO.Org its all for n900 and whatever u want to do with it..

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go to MAEMO.Org its all for n900 and whatever u want to do with it..
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there you go then if you have a n900 and want to tweak it!

better talent here than maemo.org. still have my htc hd and the n900, just can't part with my htc yet.

Please make it, its a way to promote a lot of staff and give one opportunity for this system, *if nokia* gives the same "status" as Google with Android probably it will be the best system for mobile ever. A simple example, Maemo as conceited to support Open GL 2.0, Android not. Maemo was made for gives a new way to do the things, Android is only a WinMO more social and user-friendly. Now with MeeGo, the system haves a new chance, but XDA could help because Nokia still sucks with support.
So, please make it, i will appreciate it as well.

WoW!
I am now running nearly ALL my dearest Palm OS apps of yore (from my Treo650) in a VM inside N900.
Gotta looove open platforms!
If interested, follow here.

how comes there`s a new Kin forums and nothing for the N900 thats just BS

i suppose the n900 is linux and we've tweaked with linux here at xda before so.... if you contact the administrator he might say yes!

Both Communities have amazing minds, and i'm sure that there could be some overlap of usefulness stuff if there was an included section.
At the very least it would generate new interest for the site as a whole.

I also think that an N900 section would compliment the already excellent forums of XDA. As you are probably aware there is a lot of development currently underway of porting Froyo to this device.
We are all like minded and are trying to get the most out of our mobile devices. The nokia N900 is linux based as with the andriod system.
Thanks

I stupidly started a thread on this subject without searching earlier, apologies for that, should know better.
I see that there's a few of us wanting to see the N900 represented here.
I'd be happy to do some articles on the power mangement system and other bits I've learned since getting my N900, if only there was an appropriate place to put them.
Please don't say the obvious "put them on <insert-name-of-maemo-forum>". I trust this community to dissect and disseminate information in a constructive way. Other forums just don't give me the same confidence.

I think it'd be a smart move to add it for a few reasons:
1. It is a great way to combine the minds from here to another powerful device
2. With major companies now backing the Meego OS for there vehicle systems, this would be a great way to get the foot in the door as this OS gains some ground in the coming year or so.
3. The community here is exceptionally constructive...it's not about what can't be done, it's about discovering what can. What better tool to use than an fairly open sourced/linux based device.
4. My biased reason: Now that it's my only device, I miss xda :-(
I'm sure there are also some seasoned programmers familiar with the OS differences that would be able to bring up some more in depth reasons on why programming for this device wouldn't be a huge stepping stone from Android/Win Mo.
I would believe that breaking down all of the positives on the programming side of things might be a way for the admin's to make a thoughtful/final decision on whether or not it's worth XDA's resources to add the phone.

i had a n900 and i loved and even overclocked it, my youtube video was on engadget and got 50000 hits
anyways great device and hardware but letdown by nokia, i then bought the desire as i got bored of n900. so happy i got rid of it it had a major price drop in the second hand market.

I would really like to see one as well since I just got the N900. I really like the community here and doesn't want to leave this forum because I bought a n900.

hi together i also own a N900 since Nokia decided to choose Meego and Maemo5 is dying i play around with Nitdroid for the N900 its an Android Port for the N900 and works very well the only Problem is that the Phone radio dont works. The Nitdroid Port for the N900 is done by 3 People so far maybe some good Devs from here could help to get the Phone or GPS working for this, that would be amazing.

I guess nobody cares about the N900 anymore .. since Nokia goes to Meego i just hope about the Nitdroid Port.

XDA No NOKIA/Symbian support

Hi, I really love this site and was wondering why there is no nokia/symbian support? It would be cool if I could get support for all my devices in one site. Thx

I think that's quite an interesting idea, In what way can you mod a symbian phone though ??

Symbian platform usually uses Linux. So like Android. But is Symbian really worth looking into to customize? Now a Symbian App section might be a good idea. There should be some kind of poll at least.

check these for symbian mods and see if symbian is worth modding
pnht.org
forum.pnht.org/
i am one of the member of PNHT (Professional nokia hacking group)
recently recieved a G1 and looking at things on the android side. so far android is looking great!

Well i think this forum is about WM, Android and WP7.
But Meego looks great so far and it would be nice to have sister project like you have iphone developers.

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In what way can you mod a symbian phone though ??
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Well I really love my New N8 and would be even better if I could dual boot android

I also looking for a Symbian/Nokia Forum, it were nice to see it on xda-developer.

I am contemplating adding a Nokia Nuron to my cell phone collection soon.
Sent from my MB200 using XDA App

+1 for a Nokia / Symbian section!

oems are giving up hope for symbian, it could use a community like xda
also meego = awesome and needs xda support as well imo
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/01/samsung-terminates-support-for-symbian-development/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/sony-ericsson-says-it-has-no-plans-for-any-new-symbian-product/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/25/symbian-foundation-winding-down-operations/
im sure there's more but im lazy

We are a global network for WM and Android Devices..True that we started the i-phone devs,but it was after a lot of considerations..As it is we have a terrific amount of phones lined up on the forum home page.We never thought of creating the Legacy devices forum over here,but due to constant advancement of technology and thus the devices too,we cut short the forum main page and a Legacy devices Sub forum was created...Still,the main page list is too big to end.I doubt Svetius would include a Nokia/Symbian Sub-forum on XDA..As it is Nokia also has a tougher and long line-up of its devices...It would create a clutter on already overcrowded XDA..Also users may ask to include more and more devices of the Symbian Os thus inviting Sony-Ericsson and other players on the Symbian too..So its gonna be a strict NO from my side[A hardcore WM loyalist]..If it does happen,it would be a sister project[forum] just like i-Phone developers...
PM the Admins and may be they'd have a look into this!

"In what way can you mod a symbian phone though ?? "
just look at hyperx and faenil roms, the samsung i8910 with 600/700mhz (latest mod of hyperx clocks the cpu to 950mhz) is same or faster than hd2 with 1 ghz (in custom wm or android roms).It would be great to have a device like hd2 with a less hungry OS like symbian, and a good browser too ,in the end what matters is the taste and how biased ppl are , imho hd2 great hardware with crap OS (wm), android (not so crap but much hungry OS), and symbian (apart the browser) great OS but crap hardware (apart i8910).

noo.. I am pretty sure that there is a reasoin that since 2 years ago only Nokia is producing phones with Symbian.. when I got my first phone (a Nokia) there was Samsung SE.. etc. with symbian.. To be honest.. Symbian is BAD. not worth paying for.. unless you need a cheap smart phone.. eg Nokia 5230 ot 5233 etc..

at least add meego forums plz

just for curiosity, have you ever seen/used one of the custom roms in i8910 or just talking about like others do?

well i personally think put all the HTC into one sub section then HTC users choose which phone.. its just way too much HTC on the main forum page.

This was mainly HTC forum before they started to add another popular devices, so i doubt you will see that.

this idea is so good i broke out the nuron to reply lol it took twelve minutes j/k but really it did lol

matejdro said:
This was mainly HTC forum before they started to add another popular devices, so i doubt you will see that.
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exactly. xda = htc. which was only wm phones until the rise of android, and the long hesitation for the wp7. the only reason android is covered on other devices is because htc started carrying android.
but im one of the people that thinks they are adding too many devices to the forums, and should stick with just htc hardware.

WP7 or wait for new webOS device?

Hey,anyone got an idea?I should wait for webOS new devices come out on early2011 or buy a windows phone 7 device?personally I love portrait slider phone, so I would like to compare dell lightning and palm pre series phones here. anyone got a suggestion?please share here...I'll consider it...

Personally I think webOS it basically dead now. HP may try to do some good stuff with it in a tablet possibly, but I think palm just tried as hard as they could, and webOS really didn't bring anything outrageously different or excellent to the table; it just seems like Palm decided to say "here's our try at what everyone else is doing now". WP7 is a complete reboot of a phone OS from a very large company, many people feel as if it's going to do very well, they have a lot of carrier support and developer support, and the hardware is going to be killer. I really don't think it's much of a contest.

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Hey,anyone got an idea?I should wait for webOS new devices come out on early2011 or buy a windows phone 7 device?personally I love portrait slider phone, so I would like to compare dell lightning and palm pre series phones here. anyone got a suggestion?please share here...I'll consider it...
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yes i will recomand you to wait for the new web OS device in 2011... WEB OS is dead.... and just for your info i saw somewhere that palm pre will not have a keyboard....
if the guys will expalin to you what is Windows Phone 7 OS u will not get it as you only want a potrait slider phone...
Dell is not going to be as agressive as HTC or Samsung on launching there phones...

WebOS is far from dead, new devices coming early 2011.

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WebOS is far from dead, new devices coming early 2011.
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Thanks for the information.LOL,I have watched over 10 youtubue videos about palm pre plus in last few days. It is pretty awesome(synergy and card were impressive) and I found quite a lot of hackers jalibreak it and putting homebrew apps into the device to make it perfect.
I think it's good to wait until early 2011...
if someone has the same thoughts with me,you can go to this website...and you will find webOS is not dead...
www.precentral.net

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Personally I think webOS it basically dead now. HP may try to do some good stuff with it in a tablet possibly, but I think palm just tried as hard as they could, and webOS really didn't bring anything outrageously different or excellent to the table; it just seems like Palm decided to say "here's our try at what everyone else is doing now". WP7 is a complete reboot of a phone OS from a very large company, many people feel as if it's going to do very well, they have a lot of carrier support and developer support, and the hardware is going to be killer. I really don't think it's much of a contest.
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Agreed completely. I do hope there is a place for WebOs to be implemented though. D=
Seems like such a waste of hard work. Let it prevail in tablets!