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any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.
Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G
not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.
to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.
bujucito said:
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.
I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.
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Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
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Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.
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Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
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2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
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1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
Just want to know what is the over under for T-mobile getting the official 6.5? I say 3 weeks. This sucks.
rickyteddyb said:
Just want to know what is the over under for T-mobile getting the official 6.5? I say 3 weeks. This sucks.
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3 ****in weeks crazy man im waiting for it tooo long
haha its not that far away
I'm up in WA and the WWE one just released works great - the only issue so far is no 3G indication, only H. Still looking into it....
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I'm up in WA and the WWE one just released works great - the only issue so far is no 3G indication, only H. Still looking into it....
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H as in HSDPA {enhanced 3G (third generation)}?
You didn't mean E by any chance did you?
Definetly H where I was getting the 3G indication with the 6.1 OEM ROM.
So by that link it looks like I am getting 3G, wonder why it detects differently... time to dump and play
Thanks for the link!
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Definetly H where I was getting the 3G indication with the 6.1 OEM ROM.
So by that link it looks like I am getting 3G, wonder why it detects differently... time to dump and play
Thanks for the link!
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I believe we use the term "3G" because its easier for most people to say than "HSDPA" and they seem to be less confused as well.
Any cooked ROM will say "H" instead of "3G" unless cooked otherwise.
I thought H was like 3.5G. I'm in Australia so i cant get edge, but my notification area shows both H and 3G, it swaps between them, as well as the tower icon for GSM.
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I thought H was like 3.5G. I'm in Australia so i cant get edge, but my notification area shows both H and 3G, it swaps between them, as well as the tower icon for GSM.
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thats what i thought it was also
Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL & change EnableHSDPAIcon to 0 instead of 1
Any news on t-mobile 6.5?
As the days go by, i'm hating this phone more and more. I know i can mess with the Rom, but what ever happen to a phone being good straight out the box?
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As the days go by, i'm hating this phone more and more. I know i can mess with the Rom, but what ever happen to a phone being good straight out the box?
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Ive had my touch pro 2 for about 2 months now and I love it, Out the box it does alot more than any other phone out, Try flashing the official European rom it works great with the tmobile touch pro 2.... How can a phone get any better other than a the processor and memory????? this is a beasttttttt...
I love the phone, how could you not? My house became a dead spot for all Tmobile phones over the weekend for some reason & I had to use my unlocked Tilt for the duration... I have no idea how I used that phone for so long... I missed my TP2 like crazy for those 2 days!
It was weird that any Tmobile branded phone wouldn't work in my neighborhood, but an unlocked Tilt with my Tmo SIM card worked perfectly.
I'm using the official euro rom too and it's pretty sweet. I did use the t-mobile rom for a while but couldn't help myself, always checking out the neighbors grass - green, green, green. Check the forums for AT&T bloatware and you may feel a little better about things . That grass is not so green.
I agree with the previous post. The WWE 6.5 version is very slick, and I would never go back to the 6.1 t-mobile version. I'm glad I didn't wait!
What do you hate about this phone? It is a great phone that does everything. Granted I have flashed the ROM but I didn't hate anything about it for the 2 weeks I waited before flashing it. (for reference about 2 weeks longer then any other of my phones)
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Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
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of if you use Advanced Config there is a setting under Data that will allow you to enable/disable the HSDPA Icon.
I liked the t-mobile firmware when i got it. Had some quirks but worked a lot better than my g1. (Good for it's time, Lack of apps and poor battery life got to me. I can browse the web on my tp2 on and off for 3-4 hours and still have half a battery left.)
I tried tons of 6.5 roms. Many had neat features and was cool but a lot of times, there was an issue that drove me nuts. Battery life was a huge one. My battery goes dead a LOT quicker with some of the roms. I hope that the t-mobile 6.5 has just as good battery life and cool features as the htc 6.5. I have noticed that with the htc 6.5, the gps isn't as strong. I can get a signal outside in a minute or two but near a window i get nothing. With the t-mobile rom, i could get a signal near a window. My new sony ericsson from t-mobile gets gps a LOT better!
Thanks t-mobile for the tp2!
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Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
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I get H on mine all the time
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I just wanted to know if the recently released HTC WWE 6.5 ROM will work with the T-mobile USA touch pro 2? Has anyone experienced any problems?
i tried putting in my serial number and kept getting it's not for my phone.
hey up! i can confirm as i'm using tmousa tp2 that the stock update will work on your device, i've been using for a couple of days now and the only thing i can say i've noticed is you'll get the hsdpa icon instead of 3g (you still get 3g data apparently...infact it even seems to have been a bit quicker for me, might depend on where you are though tmo has patchy coverage) also you'll need to search for the tmousa keyboard cab to get your hardwear keyboard back to working normally....other than that, everything seems to be tickety-boo!
hope it helps! take it easy!
p.s....sorry should've mentioned....you'll have to hardspl it...and download from htcpedia...you should be able to work it out from there
i found a different thread but it talked about the icon.
i recently picked up a tilt 2.
now over wifi, with the att proxy disabled i compared my tilt 2 to my iphone 3g.
i used speedtest net. web app on the tilt 2 and on the iphone i can only use the app.
what i found interesting is on the iphone i get 5 megs down 600k up which is about right to what my dsl line is provisioned at currently.
when i run the test on my tilt2 the max i can hit is 1.5 megs down.
is this normal? software? hardware? when i goto connection settings on the tilt it shows down speed 54mbps upload at 1.... when i click my wifi connection on the tilt.
any info would be appreciated.
over 3g i get about the same speed 3g iphone vs tilt those add up. i'm not really intrested in the slow speed over 3g what is bothering me is why is this phone so slow over wifi.
one more thing i want to add, when i connect wifi, with data off
network advance, Tx rate is 54MBps Rx rate is always 1 Mbps.
no matter what rom i have on the device.
Mine does the same thing. I contacted HTC and they where no help. I'm thinking of calling HTC again and see if I get some one else that might have a clue. You would think that when you connect to Wi-Fi that you would get better than 1.5Mb/s.
same here. Tilt 2 max 1.5
same here.
Tilt 2 with default at&t rom, sim unlocked on Roger(canada) network with the good connection settings.
Max 1.5 moslty around 1 on both 3G and wifi.
bad hardware or just how it is?
i have tried a different radio flash no change. to me it seems like bad hardware or a hard cap in the phones hardware.
does anyone DO NOT observ this problem with is tilt 2?
Yea i am at about 1 mbps as well on wifi. With full reception on 3g though for some reason i can only get speeds of about .5-.7mbps what the hell. I called ATT and they said it was the device but who knows. I bought this phone because of the fact that it had HSDPA 7.2. (I spend a lot of time on the internet) and of course some of the other great features it offers but my iphone 3g out performs it :-( really aggrivating
I have the T-Mo touch pro 2 and I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and it always feels like the internet is screaming fast, how would I check to see how fast it's actually going so I can report?
well that is because when you teather your laptop it is going through a different set of towers and uses different data (or something like that) then if you are just browsing from your phone. To test the speed just teather your phone and go to speedtest.net
Slow here on ATT Tilt 2
I also seem to have the 1.5 max wifi, G3 is even slower.
Missing the kaiser (original Tilt) already
i called htc on this matter, and the guy i spoke to is getting the same results, 1.5Mbps max.
this phone is same speed wifi and 3g in terms of load, etc i find this hard to accept, my ipaq is 802.11b and it wifi connection is not throttled to 1.5Mbps like this phone.
rom's and radio make no difference to the speed and if its hard capped at 1.5Mbps how in the world can it even hit the crappy 7.2Mbps att is rolling out backwards.
those this problem only observ on the tilt 2 or tp2 from sprint or verizon also get the problem?
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when i run the test on my tilt2 the max i can hit is 1.5 megs down.
is this normal? software? hardware? when i goto connection settings on the tilt it shows down speed 54mbps upload at 1.... when i click my wifi connection on the tilt.
any info would be appreciated.
over 3g i get about the same speed 3g iphone vs tilt those add up. i'm not really intrested in the slow speed over 3g what is bothering me is why is this phone so slow over wifi.
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Yep, I have Verizon FIOS at the house, and we have the max speed, 25 down 15 up. Testing with speedtest.net on my laptop i average 19.5 down, 13.5 up.
Turn on the wifi on my tilt2, and I get 1.5 down, 1.2 up. Ouch.
I get 0.05 down and 0.32 up. I've been complaining about it for awhile now. I have spent a long time calling AT&T and visiting the store and in the end it has led to them telling me they need to send me a new phone. If I take that option, I will let everyone know if the new phone was the same.
Oh bother, same here.... Bounces at 1.5 down, .35 up. Like it's hard-coded to limit it to that speed.
Probably another way for ATT to give network priority to the sheephone.
it's really inacceptabled. I've bought the found from a second hand here in canada. I cannot change it like this. HTC must offer a solution to us. It's not only an at&t phone. It's a world phone.
Same here too.
WiFi on my laptop gets me 6-7, but Wifi on the Tilt2 maxes out around 1.5
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Oh bother, same here.... Bounces at 1.5 down, .35 up. Like it's hard-coded to limit it to that speed.
Probably another way for ATT to give network priority to the sheephone.
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I would have suspected that too, but when you switch to wifi, you are no longer on the AT&T 3G network. I think it has to be a hard limit on the phone. The question is, can that limit be "unlocked" somehow?
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I would have suspected that too, but when you switch to wifi, you are no longer on the AT&T 3G network. I think it has to be a hard limit on the phone. The question is, can that limit be "unlocked" somehow?
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this is the question i asked htc. they are getting back to me.
i hope this is just a software issue that can be addressed with some sort of patch.
it feels like hardware since its on stock or cooked roms.