Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
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2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
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1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
Related
I wanted to revisit this discussion that has crept into a couple of other threads.
I have a Diamond I bought from Hong Kong back in mid-June. I'm in Canada and using the phone on Rogers' network. I'm afraid I don't remember the shipped ROM and radio, but it was one of the early ones.
In spite of other threads that say Diamonds out of Europe and Asia can't use Rogers 3G network, I was definitely able to access it. The download speeds were very fast (I downloaded a 40 MB podcast file in a matter of seconds) and the HSDPA "H" showed regularly (sometimes switching to EDGE in poor reception areas).
I decided to change the ROM a couple of days ago and have tried a number of different ones (Dutty 1.6, HK WWE 1.93.831.1, Elite 3.0) and tried some different radios (v1.00.25.07 and v1.00.25.05) but was never successful in getting HSDPA back and now I can only get EDGE.
I have searched the whole site for useful input on this subject but have yet to see anyone who has had HSDPA on Rogers like me. Was I just lucky or is there no way I could have been getting 3G? Can I get back to the early ROM and radio to see if it would work again (in spite of the slower performance)?
Help would be appreciated.
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I wanted to revisit this discussion that has crept into a couple of other threads.
I have a Diamond I bought from Hong Kong back in mid-June. I'm in Canada and using the phone on Rogers' network. I'm afraid I don't remember the shipped ROM and radio, but it was one of the early ones.
In spite of other threads that say Diamonds out of Europe and Asia can't use Rogers 3G network, I was definitely able to access it. The download speeds were very fast (I downloaded a 40 MB podcast file in a matter of seconds) and the HSDPA "H" showed regularly (sometimes switching to EDGE in poor reception areas).
I decided to change the ROM a couple of days ago and have tried a number of different ones (Dutty 1.6, HK WWE 1.93.831.1, Elite 3.0) and tried some different radios (v1.00.25.07 and v1.00.25.05) but was never successful in getting HSDPA back and now I can only get EDGE.
I have searched the whole site for useful input on this subject but have yet to see anyone who has had HSDPA on Rogers like me. Was I just lucky or is there no way I could have been getting 3G? Can I get back to the early ROM and radio to see if it would work again (in spite of the slower performance)?
Help would be appreciated.
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Which phone model do you have? You can find it under battery, should look like DIAMXXX
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Which phone model do you have? You can find it under battery, should look like DIAMXXX
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It is the DIAM100
i wish i could help. i have the same phone, contry and provider, but never did have 3g working with the stock rom, and radio. but im on pay as you go so no 3g for me anyway! but think mine shipped with RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.34.831.1_52.24.25.08_0.93.25_Ship
i am on fido and it doesnt work
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i am on fido and the 3g works fine
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What kind of hardware of you using? Diamond 130?
I just cant see HTC wasting the money to have 2 different sets of hardware for European and american bands. That would be 2 different assembly lines, sets of workers, etc. But I am getting serioulsy frustrated trying to find out if I can download a Radio that will work with at&t 3g......
I just spoke to an Expansys rep and he said they will be receiving a NA version in 3 weeks, I asked if this was going to be a different hardware version he seemed very sure it was
I still am very skeptical..... for a launch this big, on top of that, at&t is getting the touch pro, and when it comes to htc products, at&t will only sell quadband pocket pc's. I really still doubt this will be different hardware. Especially if the person who posted this already had 3g on their EU diamond until they flashed a different rom.
EDIT* also, it could be he wanted to make a sale when they got them in, rather than you buy a European one now. Just one salespersons point of view.
Here is a link, let me know what you find. These are A BUNCH of the old roms. Let me know which one lets you have the 3g band
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411&highlight=stock+asian+rom
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It is the DIAM100
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I have the same DIAM100, it originally came with 1.93 and I did not even have GSM850 until I flashed latest official ROM with 850Mhz support. But I'm in US and AT&T uses 850Mhz for WCDMA bands here.
I really hope you are right and DIAM100 can pick up 3G bands in NA
Sorry to interrupt, but what package you have with Rogers and $? I have the same phone and carrier, but I heard the data package here is a ripoff...
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Sorry to interrupt, but what package you have with Rogers and $? I have the same phone and carrier, but I heard the data package here is a ripoff...
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Yes, it's a huge ripoff but I was on Rogers site this morning...and I see that they have a promotional package on until Aug. 31. $30 for 6GB...added to your current voice plan. That's not too bad...their current pricing for 5GB is $100/mo.
...probably for the IPh**e launch...
Unl. internet for at&t in US, 15 dollars. They dont know I have a PDA
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Here is a link, let me know what you find. These are A BUNCH of the old roms. Let me know which one lets you have the 3g band
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411&highlight=stock+asian+rom
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Blazer, thanks for this link. I spent a while trying out old ROMs but without success. I don't ever remember seeing "3G" but I did get an "H" (I'm not too sure what that means though). I have read through other posts and see that people are successfully getting voice on the 850 band and hoping for UMTS to follow on future radio versions.
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Sorry to interrupt, but what package you have with Rogers and $? I have the same phone and carrier, but I heard the data package here is a ripoff...
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I'm using the Rogers $30 for 6GB package and do quite a bit of surfing now and will probably do more audio streaming. I figured that since you have to pay something like $25 for 2 MB, $30 for 6GB is a relatively good deal.
Changed every setting I can find on my new Touch Pro 2 but no HSPDA...
Think my phone is defective?
Any post appreciated
um... first of all, if you own a TP2, then you own a version that doesn't support US 3g.
Second.... wel no thats pretty much it.. sorry man.. If you want 3g speeds, you have to wait for AT&T to release their version of the TP2 (called the Fortress). As it is now, any TP2 that is unlocked is limited to Edge speeds. Sucks i know, but thats how it is Unless AT&T is in Europe and uses different bands for 3g over there that im not aware of.
Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna
My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.
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My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.
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tha tis because its radio doesnt actually have those available. it may list them but they are not available. you cant always trust the interface. this has been the case with the TP1,Diamond 1, TP2 and the HD
TP2 supports 900/2100 UMTS band and missing the 1900 (Reason why I didn't get TD2 or TP2). I have an Xperia X1i which supports the 1900 band and it works with ATT 3G flawlessly
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Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna
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Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?
Link278 said:
Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?
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currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included
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currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included
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wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?
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wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?
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No the bands just arent there. I've been a helper monkey for testing the US 3g capabilities of TP1 and helping with hacking attempts on it and trust me its not happening and I'll bet same on TP2
any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.
Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G
not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.
to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.
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Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.
I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.
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Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
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Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.
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Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.
In truth, not decided 100% on my next phone. But I like the look of this one.
The phone I want does not really exist (there is always something newer, better, and when thats there, I want something else). Ideally now I want a Galaxy with a keyboard. Most keyboard phones are not high spec - Samsung Captivate Glide is close, as is the Droid 4, so am looking at something like this and give up on a keyboard.
Picking a phone is subjective and a personal choice. I dont care about ICS much, I care more about having a MicroSD. I care about removing bloat, and upgrading outside of LG software updates (or any carrier)
Q1) Where to get it from - cell2get.com? Needs to be unlocked for the UK.
Q2) Will there be any dev on this phone?
My impression is, LG have good hardware, poor rep and not good software/too much bloat. A lot of phones have that, some are worse than others. I don't expect LG to fix it. XDA-developers is a power house and make phones usable. If I had the skills/experience/time, I would do it myself but I bow out to others.
i also think the look is underrated on this guy... but a main selling point in the US is that it's pretty much the highest spec ATT phone w/ LTE, so without that overseas, it wouldn't be worth the price.
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i also think the look is underrated on this guy... but a main selling point in the US is that it's pretty much the highest spec ATT phone w/ LTE, so without that overseas, it wouldn't be worth the price.
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LTE is on trial here in London, but not out for everyone until 2012, so its quite a bit of time.
There is the Galaxy Nexus, but there is not much mobile choice over here, not with 720p screen.
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LTE is on trial here in London, but not out for everyone until 2012, so its quite a bit of time.
There is the Galaxy Nexus, but there is not much mobile choice over here, not with 720p screen.
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is it the same LTE frequency?? If so then i'd say go for it. The only LTE phone w/ 720p.. those were the exact same features i went after..
Dev wise, it all depends if the bootloader is locked or not (i have no clue)
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is it the same LTE frequency?? If so then i'd say go for it. The only LTE phone w/ 720p.. those were the exact same features i went after..
Dev wise, it all depends if the bootloader is locked or not (i have no clue)
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Probably not the same band for LTE. O2 is trying 2600 in a few spots. There is talk of 800 when the its free. LTE 700 is what the phone is set at so I doubt it will work.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
this is the phone that you probably wanna get...
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
this is the phone that you probably wanna get...
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Nice! Will take a look and find out more...
wi fi coverage lu6200
hello everybody , i bought 2 second hand lu6200 phones here in vietnam but their wifi coverage is awful , i can connect to wifi networks with an old phone and the
lu6200 just doesn't pick up the network, i installed an app to measure the db's and in the lu6200 it gets always atleast less 6 to 10 db's ,
first i thought that it was something wrong with the hardware but i switched phones in the store and have the same problem .-( ,
now i just don't know what to do , it's weird that a phone like this one has such a bad wifi coverage .... , i have tested a lot of roms also and
wifi always hard to connect with weak signals.... anyone knows something about this?????
thanks.
wi fi
h69pc said:
hello everybody , i bought 2 second hand lu6200 phones here in vietnam but their wifi coverage is awful , i can connect to wifi networks with an old phone and the
lu6200 just doesn't pick up the network, i installed an app to measure the db's and in the lu6200 it gets always atleast less 6 to 10 db's ,
first i thought that it was something wrong with the hardware but i switched phones in the store and have the same problem .-( ,
now i just don't know what to do , it's weird that a phone like this one has such a bad wifi coverage .... , i have tested a lot of roms also and
wifi always hard to connect with weak signals.... anyone knows something about this?????
thanks.
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nobody with these problems
There isn't a forum for the lte version so I'm asking the question here. Does anyone know if the AT&T version will use the same sim as the note2? I want to switch the sim between devices when I drive. A portable inet enabled nav system for my car.
Yes, it takes a micro sim. Same as the note II. Will come with a "warm sim" installed to support session based (prepaid) pricing as well.
update: I just swapped mine out and it won't latch in place... not sim related, as none of my sims snap in. Silly spring loaded sim slots......
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Yes, it takes a micro sim. Same as the note II. Will come with a "warm sim" installed to support session based (prepaid) pricing as well.
update: I just swapped mine out and it won't latch in place... not sim related, as none of my sims snap in. Silly spring loaded sim slots......
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Weird. Do you think no microsim will fit? If it did, do you think you could use it as a giant phone on your car dash? It would be perfect as an internet connected car navigation replacement.
They fit perfectly. I just have one unit where the latch mechanism is messed up.
As far as the usage described... the AT&T variant does not function as a phone as configured. It is considered a connected tablet and no voice services are included in the stock software. That said, it makes a hell of a navi. You just wont be making standard cellular calls from it as well.
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oOamnesiaOo said:
They fit perfectly. I just have one unit where the latch mechanism is messed up.
As far as the usage described... the AT&T variant does not function as a phone as configured. It is considered a connected tablet and no voice services are included in the stock software. That said, it makes a hell of a navi. You just wont be making standard cellular calls from it as well.
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That's too bad. I was hoping I wouldn't have to tether my gs4 to the tablet and use Skype and google voice with it maybe ill just wait for that Sony Xperia z ultra as my next phone. The note2 wasn't big enough to use effectively from my dash.
RCranium666 said:
That's too bad. I was hoping I wouldn't have to tether my gs4 to the tablet and use Skype and google voice with it maybe ill just wait for that Sony Xperia z ultra as my next phone. The note2 wasn't big enough to use effectively from my dash.
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You would be able to use skype if you have a data plan active on the Note 8.0. It is LTE and working great for me for 3 days now. Of course it would need its own data plan, or if you are on a Mobile Share plan it is only 10 bux to add to your existing data bucket. Not bad imho.
oOamnesiaOo said:
You would be able to use skype if you have a data plan active on the Note 8.0. It is LTE and working great for me for 3 days now. Of course it would need its own data plan, or if you are on a Mobile Share plan it is only 10 bux to add to your existing data bucket. Not bad imho.
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What service provider are you using for your LTE?
Interesting. I had the HK LTE version, and its SIM slot failed - not a latching problem - just started telling me the SIM card wasn't there after a couple of days.
RCranium666 said:
There isn't a forum for the lte version so I'm asking the question here. Does anyone know if the AT&T version will use the same sim as the note2? I want to switch the sim between devices when I drive. A portable inet enabled nav system for my car.
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As for same size (micro) yes. As for functioning...NO!! The Note 8 LTE will only function on data based sim cards. Such as a mobile Wi-Fi hot spot sim card.
Has anybody found any ROM's for the AT&T version yet?
Muffycheeks said:
As for same size (micro) yes. As for functioning...NO!! The Note 8 LTE will only function on data based sim cards. Such as a mobile Wi-Fi hot spot sim card.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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Has anybody found any ROM's for the AT&T version yet?
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Nope. You can't even root it yet. No one has bothered to find an exploit since so few people actually own an AT&T version right now. haha Even if it achieves wider adoption, let's be honest...tablets with cell connections are usually frowned upon by the XDA and other dev-friendly communities. They'll always be treated as second-class citizens around here because they have no hipster cred 'round these parts. If we were with the in crowd, we'd buy a WiFI-only model and just tether it to our phones. :silly: A lot of people in these communities just see absolutely no point to, and thus thumb their nose at, a tablet with an LTE connection. You can give them reason after reason why they're useful, but it falls on deaf ears more times than not.
Don't expect ROMs or root for the AT&T model until there are more people that actually own one.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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If you want it from the horse's mouth call AT&T store. As for me I went with the 5100 international version.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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Wouldn't that look really awkward walking around with an 8"tablet on the side of your face?
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"bluetooth headset".....
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Nope. You can't even root it yet. No one has bothered to find an exploit since so few people actually own an AT&T version right now. haha Even if it achieves wider adoption, let's be honest...tablets with cell connections are usually frowned upon by the XDA and other dev-friendly communities. They'll always be treated as second-class citizens around here because they have no hipster cred 'round these parts. If we were with the in crowd, we'd buy a WiFI-only model and just tether it to our phones. :silly: A lot of people in these communities just see absolutely no point to, and thus thumb their nose at, a tablet with an LTE connection. You can give them reason after reason why they're useful, but it falls on deaf ears more times than not.
Don't expect ROMs or root for the AT&T model until there are more people that actually own one.
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Truth. We all have our reasons which I'm sure is similar to each others. I don't want to drain my phone battery and subsidiary prices are nice too
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rambo6 said:
Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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The rep at my store said that I could change the sim over to a voice plan any time I want but it will cost more per month. $10 for the data only plan compared to $25 for the voice/data plan (like any other device). I don't see a point in spending the money until somebody figures out how to get calls working. He also said that the sim would still work in the tab after changing to a voice plan. The question is: is the hardware capable of supporting voice calls? If so, then I'm confident that somebody will figure out how fairly quickly.
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The rep at my store said that I could change the sim over to a voice plan any time I want but it will cost more per month. $10 for the data only plan compared to $25 for the voice/data plan (like any other device). I don't see a point in spending the money until somebody figures out how to get calls working. He also said that the sim would still work in the tab after changing to a voice plan. The question is: is the hardware capable of supporting voice calls? If so, then I'm confident that somebody will figure out how fairly quickly.
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No. The AT&T SGH-I467 model does not have the phone hardware and therefore is incapable of making calls. Look at a picture of the international 3G model and compare it to a picture of the AT&T model. You'll notice the AT&T model doesn't have an earpiece at the top like the international model does. You can use the AT&T model to make calls via VoIP services like Skype, but if you want to make calls over a cell network, you're out of luck. If that's a feature that you really, really need, then you'll have to buy an international unlocked 3G model.
As a side note, the official Samsung flip cover for the Note 8.0 is designed to fit all models worldwide. This means it has a cutout in the top for the earpiece that you find on the international 3G model. It looks a little hokey when you put it on the AT&T or WiFi-only models since there's nothing there to plug that hole.
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Are you sure a regular voice/data SIM won't just work for data only in the device? I really makes me angry that AT&T has all the phone stuff taken out. I want a tablet that I can use as a phone also. I may just buy the international version and not worry about LTE.
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No. The AT&T SGH-I467 model does not have the phone hardware and therefore is incapable of making calls. Look at a picture of the international 3G model and compare it to a picture of the AT&T model. You'll notice the AT&T model doesn't have an earpiece at the top like the international model does. You can use the AT&T model to make calls via VoIP services like Skype, but if you want to make calls over a cell network, you're out of luck. If that's a feature that you really, really need, then you'll have to buy an international unlocked 3G model.
As a side note, the official Samsung flip cover for the Note 8.0 is designed to fit all models worldwide. This means it has a cutout in the top for the earpiece that you find on the international 3G model. It looks a little hokey when you put it on the AT&T or WiFi-only models since there's nothing there to plug that hole.
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. By hardware I meant the radio side of things. I agree that the microphone and speaker are definately not configured for calls. Are you saying that you have reason to beleive that it is impossible to develop a way to place calls via bluetooth headset?
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. By hardware I meant the radio side of things. I agree that the microphone and speaker are definately not configured for calls. Are you saying that you have reason to beleive that it is impossible to develop a way to place calls via bluetooth headset?
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Yes, people have tried to place calls and send native text messages. It appears that there is no usable radio hardware inside the device other than that which is required for data.
Now, it's possible that the hardware IS there but the baseband firmware simply disables it, but there's no proof of that. Unless we could hack the radio firmware somehow (not likely) or do a teardown of the tablet, we'll never know for 100% sure. But, as things sit right now, you will neither be able to make phone calls of any kind, nor be able to send native text messages to or from the tablet, at all with an SGH-I467 AT&T model because either there's no radio hardware or the I467UAMDF radio software has disabled the phone hardware entirely.