I have an Unlocked T-mobile Dash that I use on Rogers network in Toronto Canada.
The value for Automatic Time/TimeZones in Settings->Clock&Alarm keeps switching back to "Enable" on it's own. And that in turn screws with the dates and times of my appointments.
Has anyone else had the same problem?
Is there a way to change default setting for this parameter to "Disable"?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
David
Wish I had good news for you... but for some reason T-Mobile has disabled the ability to turn this off. It will only stay off until you reboot the phone. I've read that other phones, the Blackjack in particular, retain this setting when it's changed.
Someone else may come up with a registry setting to make the change permanent, wish I knew of one
I hate this too !!!!!!!!!!!
you're not the only one with this problem...
I've an open problem ticket with microsoft for perhaps some answers but don't hold your breath
meanwhile, no one has a fix for this...
the only way to resolve the issue is to fall in line with the microsoft implementation of outlook meeting/appointment scheduling which is to always record the meeting/appointment time RELATIVE to the timezone you are in when you make the entry
for example, if you're in Dallas TX on Central time and need to record a meeting in NYC 2days from now, if the NYCity meeting is at 2pm you MUST record the meeting time as 1pm which is the meeting time relative to the Dallas timezone. When you arrive in NYCity and you turn on your DASH/Excalibur it will automatically (since enable is forced ON) reset time to NYCity local time and reset the timezone to Eastern. When this happens your meeting time becomes 2pm, the correct time.
I hate this implementation but its a known "FEATURE" of WM5 and Outlook calendar operation. My investigation has found three groups of opinions:
- those who have learned to live with this implementation and agree with it
- those who have never figured it out and have given up
- those like me who hate the implementation and are looking for microsoft to add a checkbox to outlook meeting which makes the meeting time absolute and unaffected by change in timezone
Its also been suggested that a program like CityTimeSP might work ... I've downloaded and tested the 15day trial and it works as advertised allowing one to setup calendar events in other timezones without having to make the mental timezone calculation so that when you arrive and your phone time/timezone syncs all your meetings will show the correct time.
http://www.codecity.net/prodctsp.htm
good luck
A little clarification: The previous poster mentioned a "microsoft implementation" of "always recording the meeting/appointment time RELATIVE to the timezone you are in" -- this is his implementation, not Microsoft's. Once understood, the Microsoft implementation is actually pretty slick.
You can specify a time zone for an appointment when entering it in desktop Outlook -- there's a button in the appointment entry window labeled 'time zone'; when you click it you can specify alternate time zones. It's actually a powerful way to handle time zones that I was unaware of until a couple days ago. While at home, alternate time-zone appointments display earlier/later (depending on the time-zone) -- once you get there, they display correctly as your Dash pulls time and time-zone from your new location.
The real issue is that when creating appointments on your smartphone, there isn't a way to enter time zone info. Until there is, you can enter 'away' time-zone appointments on your desktop and sync them, or edit ones you've created on your phone after they sync to Outlook.
Or, jump through some hoops and add another layer to your calendar with the Citytime product, kind of overkill just to deal with time zones, but it is an option.
Pocket Informant for the PPC (not smartphone) does allow the editing of time zone info in an appointment -- hopefully a future release of the smartphone version of Pocket Informant (Papyrus) will offer this as well.
Regardless of my phrasing, I suggest you go to desktop Outlook help and search for the keyword "timezone", then read the "about timezone" and "troubleshooting timezone" items which should clarify how microsoft has implemented timezone processing.
Same exact thing happens to me and I am on Rogers Canada as well. I just learn to change the auto time zone back to disabled everytime I time I reset.
How interesting
sfu_engineer said:
Same exact thing happens to me and I am on Rogers Canada as well. I just learn to change the auto time zone back to disabled everytime I time I reset.
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Does this happen on a HTC S620 as well?
oh, I am on FIDO, Canada.. which I guess is Robbers too?
B
It's probably a firmware thing. I am using a TMOBILE DASH if it matters. I am too lazy to upgrade the firmware to HTC 620 though
My dash changes from Pacific time to Mountain time... No date change tho.
looking at the date of the original post ... I believed this is due to the extended "daylight saving time" the USA implemented this year (2007)
there have since been a patch release to resolved this issue:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
Was just reading a similar thread in HowardForums. They don't have a sure-fire fix either. It really is frustrating. I have just learnt to reset the time zone info each time I have had to reset my phone.
I fly a lot and my Dash is the only WM device I have ever owned that updates itself to time of the country I am visiting even if I have this option turned off.
OK, I can live with that if I have to, but when I arrive back in my country (UK) and turn my phone back on the time (and appointments) remain as at the last destination forcing me to have to manually update the time and turn off auto-time zone settings AGAIN.
The feature does not stay turned off though, because the next time I arrive abroad.....Bam, the auto-time zone settings have turned them selves back on again and the entire cycles starts again.
I am using the dreadfully buggy T-Mobile WM6. Hopefully when HTC finally release their WM6 version the problem will have been fixed.
Yup, I feel your pain. I am an airline Pilot, so you can imagine how frustrated I get!! I hope there is a fix for this soon. Otherwise, I really like the Dash.
Same here It drives me nuts.
The solution is to use the timezone feature in Outlook. Specifiy the time-zone for your appointments in Outlook. If you do this, then everything displays correctly as you change timezones. It's actually a slick feature if used correctly. It's even easier than complaining about it
That's not what I am 'complaining' about.
Even with the auto-time zone off....
I leave the UK. Clock = UTC
I arrive in Orlando and the time changes to UTC-5
I arrive back in the UK and the phone is still on UTC-5
With the setting off it should stay on UTC time forever.
It wouldn't be so bad it if chnaged the time without me wanting to do it, but the fact it does not change back to my home time zone on arrival back home is irritating.
Works great for me -- must be there's something wrong with your device.
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That's not what I am 'complaining' about.
Even with the auto-time zone off....
I leave the UK. Clock = UTC
I arrive in Orlando and the time changes to UTC-5
I arrive back in the UK and the phone is still on UTC-5
With the setting off it should stay on UTC time forever.
It wouldn't be so bad it if chnaged the time without me wanting to do it, but the fact it does not change back to my home time zone on arrival back home is irritating.
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Should be Ok for me too form now on sinice I've just dumped the buggy T-Mobile ROM
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Works great for me -- must be there's something wrong with your device.
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Not so sure about that......there are several of us that have the same problem. It's most frustrating.
Ok, so I was out of town this weekend and was scrolling through some appts comming up in april and noticed some events were on the wrong day (always 1 day forward). Upon further investigation I noticed there were alot of these occurances usually holidays or all day events. Then I noticed that these errors have only occured during the months of april and october so i immediately think DST issue, however I was under the impression that both WM6 and Vista had this issue patched and taken care of, so i'm not sure if that is truely the issue. Got home last evening and tried deleting the events that were wrong and resyncing and the same thing occurs everything is showing one day prior. Has anybody else experienced this and know of a fix?
Mike
WM6 8525
Windows Vista
Outlook 2007
Ok so where are you at? Which OS version are you using?
Maybe try disabling Auto Network Detect under phone setting, and see if that helps.
Have you tried changing the timezone on both the device and Vista, then changing it back to your correct timezone. This helped for the problem I had.
M$ states that the DST fix for the USA is built into WM6, as the last paragraph here states. So I thought it was odd that a client with an Exchange 2003 server with one user with a custom WM6 Hermes 8525 and another user with a brand new 8925 Tilt both had All Day appointments changing to multiday appointments starting and ending at 1:00 AM. Then I tested creating a Holy Thursday and Good Friday All Day Calendar event using my Hermes and my Exchange server, same thing. Holy Thursday on the PDA changed to Wednesday and Good Friday changed to Thursday (not good!) Of course all my servers are up to date, as are the workstations. Installed the WM6 DST and corrected the appointments on my workstation, changed the time zone from EST to another timezone and back to EST per Billy Bob Gate's instructions and now all is fine.
Curious on other folks findings concerning this.
Thanks for explaining what is going on. I work nights so have repeating appointments from 10:30pm to 07:00 the next day. Don't sync with exchange just a pc but had appointments changing start and end times by one hour at random intervals. Also some full day events I had like holidays and Birthdays changed to multiple day events. Have just installed the Dst patch, and all appears ok now.
Update to DST issue
Determined my problems due to automatically getting time zone from Cingular (which I kind of suspected) If I turn that off and manually change it to something different than my EST, save, then change back to EST all is well.
If I don't, all my All Day events are one day earlier, freaking Cingular! I remember last year with my Wizard that it would show Indiana instead of Eastern and assummed that it was fixed as it has indicated Eastern for quite a while now.
Oh well, false alarm, kinda sorta
Thought I was going out of my mind when I saw my appointments for next week going crazy. I suspected it was the automatic timezone download from T-Mobile as well, so thanks for the confirmation! I did exactly what you did and all's well.
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Thought I was going out of my mind when I saw my appointments for next week going crazy. I suspected it was the automatic timezone download from T-Mobile as well, so thanks for the confirmation! I did exactly what you did and all's well.
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Interesting, it's not just Cingular and it's not just the East Coast.....
Also affects the West Coast, since a friend of mine is out in Seattle for a conference and he's got the same problem as well.
Hi, Had to hard reset my desire this AM due to the sense going into a loop of force closing, think it may have been something to do with updating one of my apps. Got everything back to normal now except that any entries in the calendar appear seem to be 1 hour ahead of where they should be...On the PC the app't may start at 18:00 & finish at 20:00 but on the Desire, it says 19:00 & 21:00...this is for ALL entries (being 1 hour ahead of the actual app't). I have the time zone set for London / Dublin +1:00 as I'm in the UK...any ideas you braniacs?
Summer time maybe?
Thought about that & checked everything on my pc but that's all set up as it ought to be...I notice somebody else on here is having the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669718
ta for looking in though.
Anyone resolved this?
Time shifted back an hour in UK at weekend. My phone is configured to 'use network time'.
Looking at it now, at 15:12pm, the phone shows 15:12pm accurately, my PC shows 15:12pm, but calendar items synced from my PC to my phone are showing the wrong time in my phone.
For example, I have a recurring appointment at 4pm every Monday, but at 2:55pm today, my phone gave me my '5 minute reminder'. That appointment is still showing correctly at 4pm on my PC.
As far as I can tell, Google Calendar items are displaying accurately, and calendar entries created SINCE the time change on my PC sync to the correct time fine.
Any ideas on how to resolve this, I surely *can't* be having to remove and re-add all my meetings everytime the time changes??
First time on here so please be gentle with a Newbie
Up until yesterday my Lumia 930 running windows 10 was working brilliantly.
I switched on today and received notifications of new mail messages. When I tried to use email from the live tile, mail opens momentarily then closes instantaneously, the same happens with calendar. No matter what method I use to open email, it’s the same.
I checked my apps list and it shows Outlook Mail and Outlook Calendar 16006.11001.20083.0 was updated today.
Any ideas please, I don’t really want to have to a factory reset all over aging as I did a couple of months back, it take so long and I always loos e something along the way.
Any useful advice greatly appreciated.
Phil – Located England UK
Nokia 929 - similar issue
phil the till said:
First time on here so please be gentle with a Newbie
Up until yesterday my Lumia 930 running windows 10 was working brilliantly.
I switched on today and received notifications of new mail messages. When I tried to use email from the live tile, mail opens momentarily then closes instantaneously, the same happens with calendar. No matter what method I use to open email, it’s the same.
I checked my apps list and it shows Outlook Mail and Outlook Calendar 16006.11001.20083.0 was updated today.
Any ideas please, I don’t really want to have to a factory reset all over aging as I did a couple of months back, it take so long and I always loos e something along the way.
Any useful advice greatly appreciated.
Phil – Located England UK
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I had a similar issue and a reset caused the exact issue you describe. First the update occurred Monday or Tuesday of last week. Then after a couple days noticed I wasn't getting text messages which was odd. Then noticed my sound notification went off as a text came in but when I opened the messaging app could see nothing in there. Next one that came in I had the phone in hand at time of text and saw whom it was from and was able to search that person and see their text - tough way to run a business!!! A quick search found similar issue back in 2016 and only fix was a reset.
Once I ran the reset I have not been able to use outlook or outlook calendar they open and close within seconds never actually launching. I performed 3 resets since Wednesday and could not get outlook to work or my contact list to load. this morning I reverted back to windows 8.1 and for now though I can no longer get any OS updates thanks to MS stellar customer appreciation initiative (Use our product then discontinue the product line). But I can use the phone with my email, texts and phone again for the first time this week. Soon as my VZW contract is over I am ditching VZW and Windows phone and going back to android.
Sorry I have no real solution for you. I may try to re-image again with windows 10 to see if I can get outlook to work again, but I would suggest finding a 3rd party email client you can install.