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Congrats for the cleaning!
It was necessary
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the genral section has what, 7-10 stickys?
dont kill (moved) stickies :-(
Badwolve1 said:
the genral section has what, 7-10 stickys?
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It has exactly 6 stickys now
Also, just to add to what svetius stated above, if you feel some current stickies do not necessarily require sticky status, please inform me either on this thread or by PM so I can review said sticky
[Q] Why do people post [Questions] in the [General] section???
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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Bueller?
I don't get it. Do people not understand WHY we have a Q&A sub-forum?
Do people think their question will get answered sooner/better if they post it where it's not supposed to go?
I understand this is not an original thread and I am only one of many who are getting fed up with the lack of e-courtesy on the part of the wrong-section-question-posters, maybe some of them who haven't seen the other frustration threads will see this one and start posting in the right places.
Get with it people.
Can a mod move this thread to the correct section?
Bioxoxide said:
Can a mod move this thread to the correct section?
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This thread is already in the correct section.
It isn't actually a question, more of a statement.
If this thread was moved to Q&A then only the people who are already posting in the correct section would see it and not the people who come to the general section to post questions, who should see it.
I'm still annoyed at the whole "[Q]" thing. We can tell it's a damn question arleady. That's what question marks are for.
I agree, but people need to just ignore the post in the wrong forum and the mod will move into the right forum. The problem is that when you tell someone they are in the wrong forum they go to that forum and post the same thing. Then the mod moves the other one and now we have two posts of the same thing.
I would think that a specific issue related to the phone would be posted in the Q&A section.
Like, "how do I change the settings for blah blah blah?" would be in Q&A.
But if someone wants to get a feel for the community, like "has your phone dl/ul speeds changed" or something like that, they post in the General section.
Q&A is for questions looking for solutions to a specific problem/issue and General is for general discussion of the phone. Just my 2 cents.
i feel the OP's pain..
people post in general because they want their question "seen" by more eyes.. some post because they dont care for the sub forums.
this site is a devs site FIRST.. but over time the novice has made his or her way here and the dev base has eroded a bit with questions like "make me decide to keep my phone" or "iphone sux and here's why"... those questions should not even be asked in the first place and when they are posted it just muddies up the forum...
it gives mods more work to do in the end and the other sub forums dont see the right traffic they should be seeing.
if more folks post in the appropriate section, that would engage others to explore those forums...
nebenezer said:
This thread is already in the correct section.
It isn't actually a question, more of a statement.
If this thread was moved to Q&A then only the people who are already posting in the correct section would see it and not the people who come to the general section to post questions, who should see it.
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Seems very much like a question, ya even have the cute little [Q] to further indicate a question was about to go down. Complete with question marks, not to mention 3 question marks...sure looks like a question to me. And do you not seek answers?
Q&A, let's go.
beesneazy said:
Seems very much like a question, ya even have the cute little [Q] to further indicate a question was about to go down. Complete with question marks, not to mention 3 question marks...sure looks like a question to me. And do you not seek answers?
Q&A, let's go.
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rhetorical...
and the [Q] was to bring attention to the fact that QUESTIONS DO NOT BELONG IN HERE, otherwise you wouldn't be suggesting this thread be moved... thank you for illustrating my point
And no, I do not seek answers. I seek for people to ask themselves the question "where does my shiny new thread go" before they post it.
Was more in jest than not. I do get your point as well and I didn't prove your later point. It's clearly a question, either way. Coulda posted "reminder - questions belong in Q&A." People that can't already figure that out might be further confused by the thread.
I get ya though.
Another thing is the whole "I searched and couldn't find anything..." response that is put in the title or question itself.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. Now its time for the Dr. Phil "your so mean!" responses to start coming out.
So let me see if I understand. If you want to say something, then do it in the general section. If your statement begins with: who, what, why, where, how, can, is, when, if, (I can't think of anymore), then it is a question and should be in the q&a section. Do I have this right?
Oops, now this belongs in another section because I asked a question. Ya just can't win, can ya? Crap! Another question!
Hey mods and forum police, I was just trying to be funny but I failed miserably... I'm not trying to mock you.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck then its a DUCK!!
[Q] Why do people post [Questions] in the [General] section???
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nahhhhhh thats not a question..ahhh the irony of your question asking why people asks question in the general section that you just did yourself!
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nahhhhhh thats not a question..ahhh the irony of your question asking why people asks question in the general section that you just did yourself!
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Yep, that was the point
nebenezer said:
Yep, that was the point
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I'm guessing you don't have kids. If you do, then oh boy....
Just learn to ignore threads, you don't have to click them.
This is why we have mods. (Its more work on them which I feel bad for....but this is always going to happen on an internet forum.)
Oh ****... The [Q] thing has spread to other xda boards now. D:
champ052005 said:
I'm guessing you don't have kids. If you do, then oh boy....
Just learn to ignore threads, you don't have to click them.
This is why we have mods. (Its more work on them which I feel bad for....but this is always going to happen on an internet forum.)
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No I don't have kids and I don't flame people (very often) and I'm a master at ignoring stupid threads. I'm aware of the extra burden misplaced threads puts on the mods, that's why I started this one to hopefully help prevent some of it before they have to take their time to move them.
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Oh ****... The [Q] thing has spread to other xda boards now. D:
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i believe the [q] is an automatic feature now, if you check the 'is this a question' box when starting a new thread. i highly doubt that some of these people that start new threads out of the blue intentionally included a relevant bit of info in the thread title, lol
lol, I'm a little surprised this got moved
Is there any way to dualboot a desire? Like dhd?
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wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
^ Haha
but yeah man this should be in Q&A! getting sick of all these questions in the development forum
Easy solution: only devs should have permission to create new threads in dev section (duh!).
Wrong section but its a great idea that would not work too little memory on the phone inself to run a dual boot. so could a Mod just close this as it is completely pointless.
@howdid, You made my day lol
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That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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you could read forum rules too
This looks like a start of a war between the defenders of n00bs and fighters against n00bs. Mods, how about returning from Tahiti and dealing with this situation?
m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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How 'bout reviewing new threads by mods? (Hypocritical suggestion, I know).
That's a fairly standard option on a lot of forums, in some sections only specific categories of posters can start a new thread ( Mods and recognized developer should cover it here). Everyone else has to submit a new thread for mod approval. If implemented it would stop these "random questions" and d******s who post "hey i'm using this rom but can't be a***d reading the rom thread and gosh this is so important i'm gonna start a new thread
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
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Good idea but don't forget not all people with low post counts post before they think, also i have seen noob type mistakes from senior members with 500+ posts before now.
The better idea is devs only being able to make new threads.
Maybe giving to top 3 devs mod status for entire Desire section. I'm confident they're capable more than enough to keep this place tidy.
with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
Hmmm maybe 2 moderator per section is not enough we need more then 4...that's all...personally I don't have any prob. with noobs but at-least read the section rule....
BTW let see... does how desire is capable to run dual.boot...
I clicked that with expectations.
well I posted in the apps section for beta testers for a multiboot app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325 since it's not rom development but then saw this thread and figured i'd link here if anyone's interested...
howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Wrong
EDIT: Sorry for not reading the second page @Conap beat me to it
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with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
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Granted the OP could have searched and found his question has been asked already,
BUT
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
2. The Desire has the same size nand as the Nexus one, we have apha rev with custom MTD partions and Hboots. One would think that if this is possible on the Nexus one, it should be on the Desire.
3. As someone else said, post count and join date do not necessarily reflect one's amount of knowledge. Some people lack common sense about where to post, others are lazy. No matter what the forum rules are that will never change.
Respectfully,
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1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
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Yep it was, although it could be better said to just be moved in the Q&A Forums, instead of feeding this post with 15+ responds about the same fact.
Anyway I think this thread should either be continued on the topic or closed.
Sorry for off-topic.
to answer the op question, at the moment no, but uncorrupted has been working on dual booting but hasnt had much joy, there is a thread about it, he'll be starting work again soon
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I've seen in various places mention of the 10-post threshhold, and scattered mentions of various things you can't do before that point, but I haven't found a definitive list of what happens when you are upgraded from "Junior Member" to--what?--"Regular Member"?
If there is already such a list, can anyone provide a link?
All I've found so far is the list in post 17981993, but
it appears to be incomplete.
Some of the things I've heard of/am hoping for:
signature
post links
post in dev forums
post without captcha
thanks button
No 5-minute waiting period between posts
edit posts (apparently not an issue)
Also useful is a list of things that the 10-post threshold doesn't get you that you might have been hoping for/expecting.
You get what you get when you get it.
This might be helpful to answer your questions and more: GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA.
Welcome to XDA, good luck,
mf2112
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I really dislike this.
Not every new user is a noob who hasn't done their research before posting.
Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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And that's why Q&A section is meant for. Development Threads were solely not intended for addressing issues, but help with development ie, helping to fix errors. But now, majority of them just posts what's not working a 100 times, even if its a beta build.
coolsandie said:
And that's why Q&A section is meant for. Development Threads were solely not intended for addressing issues, but help with development ie, helping to fix errors. But now, majority of them just posts what's not working a 100 times, even if its a beta build.
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Alright I have posted my issue in the Q&A section. But really if there is a specific issue with a rom wouldn't I want to get the devs attention ASAP. I can't imagine rom devs are watching every thread in the Q&A section specific to their rom.
Ugh...
I started this thread to clarify what the rules are.
I didn't realize I risked getting buried in replies arguing about what the rules should be.
I'd ask people to start another thread if they want to discuss what the rules should be, but not sure it'll help...
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Ugh...
I started this thread to clarify what the rules are.
I didn't realize I risked getting buried in replies arguing about what the rules should be.
I'd ask people to start another thread if they want to discuss what the rules should be, but not sure it'll help...
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It probably won't help, people just seem to love to argue about what the rules should be...
Seeing as you've got an answer to your original question I'll just close this and prevent the inevitable "OMG TEN PST RUL SUXXX" posts.
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I really dislike this.
Not every new user is a noob who hasn't done their research before posting.
Right now I have a major issue with a rom and can't post on the thread because I don't have permission...
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Tbh, I'd be very surprised if your issue hasn't happened to somebody before with the solution in said rom thread already
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Alright I have posted my issue in the Q&A section. But really if there is a specific issue with a rom wouldn't I want to get the devs attention ASAP. I can't imagine rom devs are watching every thread in the Q&A section specific to their rom.
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...and I'd be extremely surprised if this serious issue wasn't already know by said rom developer
Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?
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Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?
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I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.
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I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.
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Exactly. Its like they're on Facebook or this forums is like a social networking site to them.
Ask the forum moderators to make this thread a sticky. So that everyone can see it.
How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread and be a little more active in the Q&A Thread?
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How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread
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That's a good solution. Were not annoyed but the mods are. What do think? LOL.
Leave them alone and just try and point them to the right direction. If they do it again, report that user. I'm active on Q and A but some are just "you know" I don't really want to talk to people who you'd still have to walk through every little detail. I'm not good with explaining myself so I tend to ignore posts that ask me to do just that.
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very right. i don't know why any people always post a new post to ask? some question is spam! made our forum is do not beautiful, it's make messy and not subtle. I know if always report any spam question make they be bothered. i don't think out solution for now
YEAH! thats is why i created the All about ace2 for GB and JB to lessen this problem anyway its way to many to report each same question or post
I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again (only done it once) and I'll explain why:
1. To make any Q&A thread work we would expect someone to maintain and index on it, but this isn't the case here.
2. Posts are ignored because they get lost in all the discussions going on there.
3. Answers are lost because most of the time no one knows if the answer is to your question or to the question 2 posts below yours.
4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
Now picking up on the 1st question, let me make another one...
Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.
mcjpt said:
I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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You have right, partially.
But the questions are left without answers for several reasons:
- the answer was posted before
- nobody know the answer
- the answer is easy to achieve just by checking by oneself.
mcjpt said:
Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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Did you see a policeman helping a thief to break the law only for one reason: to be nice, kind and helpful?? And this is what you propose.
Answering your question: Because i want to keep our subforum CLEAN. How many of that "new question threads" was already answered (sometimes in SEPARATE, dedicated thread)? And what you propose is to help other breaking the rules.
mcjpt said:
If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.
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There are forums where people are banned for breaking rules, trust me, and "illegall threads" land where it belongs: in trashcan.
Chill out! Just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321168 why?
simple... almost any developments are here pack in one for easy access.. to make it less confusing..
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I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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Really? I think it doesn't work because people like you never learn. Questions are answered there - that's the purpose. And that purpose is served.
Questions are lost because some can't answer them, or its too easy if you learned to read and simply because the question itself is dumb (the answer is obvious yet they choose to post it)
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Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again
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actually, one of our forum mods, The Captain - is reminding new users to post on the Q and A thread then he locks the thread.
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4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
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Uhhm. I use search and never had any problems so far. I'm guessing you really don't know how to use a search engine productively.
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Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
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Since we don't have a section like that, I think its better to use a single thread. thus searching would be faster.
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Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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In all honesty, I usually tell the user the answer and direct them to the q and a thread for any other questions irrelevant to the question on the thread.
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