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Would this help any dev or no?

So i have an evo that i am sending back because i got my replacement.. So i dont care if it gets unrooted in the process...
According to this: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
I should be able to manually update my phone to froyo....
If someone could walk me through how to get the image and files off the phone and post i would be more than happy too (if that would help anyone.. i just dont know)
Let me know!

yeah it would help but i dont think its available yet been trying to download all day no luck...

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drumdude said:
Wrong Forum.
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How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.

Ha!
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.

Sprockethead said:
How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.
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[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
Wrong Forum.

I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Hay man your posting in the wrong section of the forum. Enjoy!!
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk Pro.

Wouldn't the update download into /cache? Or Is this still the wrong forum?
Sent from your mom's house.

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Dude, Wrong forum.. The Rants and Raves forum is down the block....

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!

Thank you!

Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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thenewguy821 said:
I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.
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Are you a wizard? Or just another kid who has also started a thread in the wrong forum?

echoside said:
Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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Hey, it's ok. Half of the members finally started going through puberty, and their formerly carefree tween personalities have been beset by emotional volatility and hormonal fluctuations. Most of them are probably confused, wondering what those hairs are for.
Sent from the wrong forum.

drumdude said:
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5 posts of "Wrong Forum". You're just as cancerous as the threads that you post in.
to OP, Thank you for willing and waiting with the rest of us and yes if you do get your hands on that OTA it will help tremendously. Do post here if you get it.

Really?
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.

drumdude said:
Wrong Forum.
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SEE BELOW
Unknownforce said:
[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
Wrong Forum.
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You 2.. see below..
drumdude said:
Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!
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idiot
First of all.. anyone that has less than 20 posts telling me that this is the wrong forum is.. well.. DUMB... (even if you have more than that, this still applies)
ITS A SPECIFIC DEVELOPER RELATED QUESTION AND I WAS TRYING TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY IF POSSIBLE..
ITS ASSWIPES LIKE YOU THAT MAKE FORUMS BULL****... IF YOU LIFE SUCKS SO BAD THAT ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO AROUND TO FORUMS AND TALK CRAP.. SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD AND BE DONE WITH IT....
I have been DL'ing roms and posting here for a while and i wanted to try and give back if i could even though i am not a dev!

Adanedhels said:
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.
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You might want to step back and take a deep breath or two (jeez probably three.)
You're not a mod either, so how about you calm down and go outside or something?

Check to see if the PRI updates from 1.34_003 to another one.

[Q] Why do you guys keep posting [Q]'s in development?

seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting? Did you not understand them? IF YOU AREN'T POSTING UP DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL (e.g a new ROM, a new kernel, a system hack, a new radio) STOP STARTING THREADS IN THERE.
the q and a forum is for questions.
and, if you are having an issue with a particular kernel, rom, radio, troll the thread concerning that particular item. chances are that someone else has had the problem, and that another person solved it. if it hasn't been solved, post in that thread, with specifics to your issue.
you do not need to start a thread. in fact, when you start threads that have to be moved, your leftovers have to be cleaned up behind you.
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and no, i don't need some person (db, i'm looking at you) to come in here and say "blah blah blah you're just a wanna be mod", or some other non-helpful comment. the fact of the matter is that there is a place for everything. please keep it in its place. you're more likely to find your answer by searching first, and posting in the correct place. you will also find that you are not starting a load of silly flaming as people bicker and fight about stupid crap.

Wanna be mod.
Thanks.
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I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
I personally think the PRI question should be a sticky over there until resolved...but that would be too easy I guess?

nvm.............

r.mauldin said:
I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
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why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.

timothydonohue said:
why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.
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I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".

r.mauldin said:
I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".
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But "that guy" isn't alone. Lately I've noticed 8+ of us that are "those guys" and growing.
A simple analogy would be comparing parking in the handicapped space at the mall, not worth the risk so you don't... on XDA there is no risk so people park their Q's in the handicapped space (dev) all day long. Neither scenario is right, nor should be tolerated.

timothydonohue said:
seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting?...yada yada yada and blah blah blah
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I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?

cardiox said:
If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
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I think a developer wouldn't want to answer the question of some fool who can't even post in the right forum.

Crotchety said:
I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?
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yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.

I'm with you OP, its irritating and actually disrespectful to the community
BTW, this should have been posted in dev.. lol

timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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I hear you and I just joined XDA not too long ago at all. A few things I learned right away:
- USE THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON
- READ READ READ READ READ READ
- If you can't find an answer using the search button, open a new tab and Google it
- Still can't find an answer? You'd better search through the other threads before starting a new thread
- These threads wouldn't be so long if people would simply read the OP
- Kittehz r dyin cuz u dont no how 2 reed
Seriously though, I hate to see a great community become angered over lazy people. It ruins it for those of us who do heed the rules.

I am with the OP and to the persons aying if more devs came and answered there questions in QA they wouldnt ask in dev .... most of the people answering questions in DEv arent the DEVS. the DEVS are busy developing things and shouldnt be expected to waste there time answering the same 3 questions everyday all day.
Many people on the forum DO come to the Q&A and try to provide insight. Some are less helpful then others but in general you will get flamed less, you will get the answer and you wont cause issues with the "neatness" of the forums.

timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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Fair enough. As a seasoned XDA vet of a whopping 3 posts (including this one), I would defer to you on this issue, but I just think it looks like you're complaining to the wrong people. We're already in the Q&A which means we're already doing what you devs have been trying to get the offending posters (who are over in the dev forum) to do. They're not gonna see your OP in here because they're too busy bypassing the Q&A and heading over to Dev to annoy you guys with generic questions again.

Basically what has happened is the Evo and other somewhat likfe phones have blown up. Word spread like wildfire that XDA was the place to get any and all help with your phones. (Which don't get me wrong 99% of the people here are more then willing to help.) This brought a lot of new people on the scene and wanting information and help. Unfortunately some of those people don't want to play by the rules of the road.
Maybe it's just me but it seems like over the past couple months this is what's happened. I seem to remember another thread this was brought up and a suggestion was made about being a member for a certain period of time before being able to create a new thread. I'm not saying this needs to happen because I don't think that would solve anything actually.
Ok...my rant's over now too.
*Just my 2 cents*

Download official stock froyo zip. Beta to Official.

I downloaded the leaked beta and it messed up my phone and put it into a reboot cycle. I try and update before it reboot but it says im up to date. I need the official update in a zip.
Stock unrooted official
Thanks

I take it you have not SEARCHED the board.... cause its here
sent with my evo from a secret place

i did thankyou and you dont have to be a jerk. With the ammount of time u took to type that comment u could have linked me to it. Kindness

Hey Nut.
It was about 4 threads below yours:
The title is: [ROM] Official HTC OTA 2.2 Update to Froyo for the EVO!
(Can't post links yet)

xRepinsSporx said:
i did thankyou and you dont have to be a jerk. With the ammount of time u took to type that comment u could have linked me to it. Kindness
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I could have but the link is 4 or 5 post down
But you searched right
sent with my evo from a secret place

Sporkman said:
I could have but the link is 4 or 5 post down
But you searched right
sent with my evo from a secret place
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That doesnt have the newest update. Still links to the leaked beta release from last week. Thats why I created this thread

xRepinsSporx said:
That doesnt have the newest update. Still links to the leaked beta release from last week. Thats why I created this thread
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You did not search very well
I looked and found 2 download links to the latest ota
sent with my evo from a secret place

Sporkman said:
You did not search very well
I looked and found 2 download links to the latest ota
sent with my evo from a secret place
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Yeah, well all I can find are rooted ROMs, which are not what the OP is looking for. Care to point out where I can find a link to download the final Froyo update here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=41591391&pp=25
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743113&highlight=3.26.651.6&page=2

Look, here it is. I know I'm not supposed to hold your hand, but obviously you need it. I suggest you may want to stick to the "General" forum section. Easy-to-find forum post.

Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid

sturmen said:
Look, here it is. I know I'm not supposed to hold your hand, but obviously you need it. I suggest you may want to stick to the "General" forum section. Easy-to-find forum post.
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Dude, no need to be a jerk... Anyone, if that download stops working, you can download it here: http://www.google.com/buzz/superlinkx/PiHU4FDrj6n/For-those-interested-I-have-included-the-final
Be warned that this update will not flash over the leaked beta update. It will ONLY flash over 1.47, so be warned. It won't brick your phone, but you will waste about 10 minutes of your life just to see it fail. HTC said they plan to have a solution for those who flashed early within the coming days.

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Dude, no need to be a jerk... Anyone, if that download stops working, you can download it here: http://www.google.com/buzz/superlinkx/PiHU4FDrj6n/For-those-interested-I-have-included-the-final
Be warned that this update will not flash over the leaked beta update. It will ONLY flash over 1.47, so be warned. It won't brick your phone, but you will waste about 10 minutes of your life just to see it fail. HTC said they plan to have a solution for those who flashed early within the coming days.
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ya i have the leaked version. Thankyou for your help and information and for not being a jerk like the rest. Just tried the update and no luck. thanks for letting me know.
Im stuck using my old treo 650 lol. leaked update messed my evo up so back to old school.
Hope the RUU Supersonic 2.2 exe comes out soon. I messed up my phone when updating to 1.47 so I have lost usb and stuck unrooted so cant fix it. Made a small mistake eh its all good I have a replacement coming...well when they get in stock

lol some of these people remind me of players in wow when you ask a simple question they turn into asswipes just because they have better gear and playing the game longer then you
called ELITIST JERKS lol

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lol some of these people remind me of players in wow when you ask a simple question they turn into asswipes just because they have better gear and playing the game longer then you
called ELITIST JERKS lol
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Why the %#$% do you have MP5 gems as a damn Holy paladin? Freaking scrub.

LOL see!!!

Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.

Unknownforce said:
Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.
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Amen.
I regularly go to the Q&A forum to give back what i can. I can also tell you that the above is correct. the people flamed the most are those posting in the wrong forum. If you search and let them know you try people a re alot more forgiving int he Q&A forum then they are in development. Think of development as your library and Q&A as the class room.
If you are unsure if it should be in development it probably shouldnt be. If it doesnt pertain specifically to a rom and isnt asked in that Roms thread until you get to a level where you can better determine where it goes ... ask in in Q&A. Best advice i can give to people with questions.

xRepinsSporx said:
Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid
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You're right. I should have been less mean. It's just that... when people come to development with questions seeking answers, it just doesn't seem right. I'd like to apologize. And I'm not gonna go back and edit it to make it better. I'm going to straight-up apologize.
I'm sorry for talking down.
Unknownforce said:
Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.
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I support this statement.

xRepinsSporx said:
Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid
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Quit crying and go home. You seriously need to learn how to use Google. We hate idiots here as it leads to tons of worthless threads clogging everything up.
Mods, please lock or delete this. Though I'm sure you are all busy dealing with all the trash coming from all the noob trying to ask how to update, each with their own thread...

Dualboot

Is there any way to dualboot a desire? Like dhd?
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wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot

^ Haha
but yeah man this should be in Q&A! getting sick of all these questions in the development forum

Easy solution: only devs should have permission to create new threads in dev section (duh!).

Wrong section but its a great idea that would not work too little memory on the phone inself to run a dual boot. so could a Mod just close this as it is completely pointless.

@howdid, You made my day lol

m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here

howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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you could read forum rules too

This looks like a start of a war between the defenders of n00bs and fighters against n00bs. Mods, how about returning from Tahiti and dealing with this situation?
m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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How 'bout reviewing new threads by mods? (Hypocritical suggestion, I know).

That's a fairly standard option on a lot of forums, in some sections only specific categories of posters can start a new thread ( Mods and recognized developer should cover it here). Everyone else has to submit a new thread for mod approval. If implemented it would stop these "random questions" and d******s who post "hey i'm using this rom but can't be a***d reading the rom thread and gosh this is so important i'm gonna start a new thread

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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
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Good idea but don't forget not all people with low post counts post before they think, also i have seen noob type mistakes from senior members with 500+ posts before now.
The better idea is devs only being able to make new threads.

Maybe giving to top 3 devs mod status for entire Desire section. I'm confident they're capable more than enough to keep this place tidy.

with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534

Hmmm maybe 2 moderator per section is not enough we need more then 4...that's all...personally I don't have any prob. with noobs but at-least read the section rule....
BTW let see... does how desire is capable to run dual.boot...

I clicked that with expectations.

well I posted in the apps section for beta testers for a multiboot app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325 since it's not rom development but then saw this thread and figured i'd link here if anyone's interested...

howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Wrong
EDIT: Sorry for not reading the second page @Conap beat me to it

N3m3515 said:
with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
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Granted the OP could have searched and found his question has been asked already,
BUT
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
2. The Desire has the same size nand as the Nexus one, we have apha rev with custom MTD partions and Hboots. One would think that if this is possible on the Nexus one, it should be on the Desire.
3. As someone else said, post count and join date do not necessarily reflect one's amount of knowledge. Some people lack common sense about where to post, others are lazy. No matter what the forum rules are that will never change.
Respectfully,

jmitr said:
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
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Yep it was, although it could be better said to just be moved in the Q&A Forums, instead of feeding this post with 15+ responds about the same fact.
Anyway I think this thread should either be continued on the topic or closed.
Sorry for off-topic.

to answer the op question, at the moment no, but uncorrupted has been working on dual booting but hasnt had much joy, there is a thread about it, he'll be starting work again soon
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[Q] What do we have "Q And A for Ace II" thread for?

Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?

judas1977 said:
Yes, i know that everyone of you (examples below) have very important question, that deserves separate thread, but, for God sake, don't spam the forum!!! (yes, my thread is meant to be provocative...). There is Q And A for Ace II thread for most of that questions...
Examples:
"[Q] How to root Ace gt-i8160 with BTU MC8?" (yes, it freakin' special technique to root phone working on that firmware)
"[Q] It is possible Update to JB?" (oh yeah, nobody answers that question so far, it required new thread)
"[Q] PIT?" (yes, that question probably would be ignored in q & a thread... the same way its ignored in separate thread)
"[Q] Change camera settings?" (veeeery important, no comment)
and so on...
Am I the only one here tired of all that spam?
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+1 :good:

I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.

Sigint89 said:
I totally feel you man. People are behaving here like it's some technical support not respecting the rules they agreed to accept while registering here. Constant mess, chatting in threads, useless posts about personal feelings, asking questions which require spending 10 seconds with Google or forum search function. But the saddest thing here is that it seems like people who want to keep forums clean are actually minority here. Or at least they are instantly quenched by those who have to quote entire-page-long post to say only "thanks" and are raged about being offended and abused.
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Exactly. Its like they're on Facebook or this forums is like a social networking site to them.

Ask the forum moderators to make this thread a sticky. So that everyone can see it.

How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread and be a little more active in the Q&A Thread?
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How about if we just ignore (and report) any new useless thread
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That's a good solution. Were not annoyed but the mods are. What do think? LOL.
Leave them alone and just try and point them to the right direction. If they do it again, report that user. I'm active on Q and A but some are just "you know" I don't really want to talk to people who you'd still have to walk through every little detail. I'm not good with explaining myself so I tend to ignore posts that ask me to do just that.
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very right. i don't know why any people always post a new post to ask? some question is spam! made our forum is do not beautiful, it's make messy and not subtle. I know if always report any spam question make they be bothered. i don't think out solution for now

YEAH! thats is why i created the All about ace2 for GB and JB to lessen this problem anyway its way to many to report each same question or post

I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again (only done it once) and I'll explain why:
1. To make any Q&A thread work we would expect someone to maintain and index on it, but this isn't the case here.
2. Posts are ignored because they get lost in all the discussions going on there.
3. Answers are lost because most of the time no one knows if the answer is to your question or to the question 2 posts below yours.
4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
Now picking up on the 1st question, let me make another one...
Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.

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I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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You have right, partially.
But the questions are left without answers for several reasons:
- the answer was posted before
- nobody know the answer
- the answer is easy to achieve just by checking by oneself.
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Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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Did you see a policeman helping a thief to break the law only for one reason: to be nice, kind and helpful?? And this is what you propose.
Answering your question: Because i want to keep our subforum CLEAN. How many of that "new question threads" was already answered (sometimes in SEPARATE, dedicated thread)? And what you propose is to help other breaking the rules.
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If we were a bit more friendly maybe more people would stay and help out, instead we just drive people out with this kind of aggressive and unjustified comments.
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There are forums where people are banned for breaking rules, trust me, and "illegall threads" land where it belongs: in trashcan.

Chill out! Just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321168 why?
simple... almost any developments are here pack in one for easy access.. to make it less confusing..

mcjpt said:
I'll try to enlighten all of you... BECAUSE THE Q&A THREAD DOESN'T WORK!!!
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Really? I think it doesn't work because people like you never learn. Questions are answered there - that's the purpose. And that purpose is served.
Questions are lost because some can't answer them, or its too easy if you learned to read and simply because the question itself is dumb (the answer is obvious yet they choose to post it)
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Until I see a forum moderator saying that all the question should be posted there I will never do it again
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actually, one of our forum mods, The Captain - is reminding new users to post on the Q and A thread then he locks the thread.
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4. Search is impossible if you don't know the exact words used.
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Uhhm. I use search and never had any problems so far. I'm guessing you really don't know how to use a search engine productively.
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Maybe the reasons above are part of the motive other devices have a specific areas for questions, like "Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" that have 3000 posts in it... Trying to make it all fit on 1 thread is completely useless and extremely confusing. No one can expect a user to go thru 100 pages trying to find an answer to his question.
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Since we don't have a section like that, I think its better to use a single thread. thus searching would be faster.
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Why do some users in this forum spend more time "demanding" people to post where they think is right other then helping people?
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In all honesty, I usually tell the user the answer and direct them to the q and a thread for any other questions irrelevant to the question on the thread.
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