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the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
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the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
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yea dude, flash a new rom, what happened is your windows directory got loaded and is slowing down the preformance on your entire ppc.. some of the newer roms have fixed this.
but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
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but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
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when you open file explorer and browse into windows directory. how long does it take to load?
CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
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this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
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Agreed, performance goes down once you start installing many applications or quit flashing for a few days
Wasn't it with CRC's roms that Odd numbered roms were the stable roms and even numbered roms were in developement?
Could be using a developement rom that has a few bugs to be worked out....
Cheers...
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CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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Just use CRC r13, its stable and more performance than r14.1
Visit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
im currently running now 13.0 stable but still the same, is there something within the registry i can do or something or could it be the auto word completion thing?
i do have quite some software on my phone but majority of them are utility programs that help me clean and or tweak my settings.
i dont wanna crank up my core speed as that will already kill the juice of my battery of what little i do get out of the day,
Use advanced config to make sure you are running with .net framework 3.5... I found a few of the newer roms have it listed as "disabled"...
I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
I guess I found the source of the problem. fonts. extra fonts.
One of the programs I install by default after every flash puts three different fonts into the \windows folder. I renamed these fonts and restarted the pda. The annoying slowdown when playing POWDER is now almost gone. Once in a while it still gives me a short freeze, but these freezes are not as frequent as before. The game is much more playable now.
by the way, when I was wandering through my windows folder, I realized that there are an enourmous number of youtube files in it. How unfortunate, because I never use the youtube application. Appearantly, too much storage space is wasted for a program that I never use. I will definitely consider a non-youtube non-manilla non-htchome ROM for the next flash.
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I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
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here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
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here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
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downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
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downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
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ok, couldn't wait till morning. I have been testing the rom for last hour and oh God!... this is the best, fastest, most stable ROM I have flashed in a while. I installed my regular set of software and it is still lightning fast. the windows directory loads in under a second. Probably something like 0.3 seconds!!! All applications are so responsive and everything works so fast, I am finding it difficult to not to cry. Let's see what will happen after a couple of days. But seriously, my hermes hasn't been this awesome for the last two months.
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Look around, there are a heap of Lite roms available at the moment... Try Darkvision or Tai_SW's rom... Just to name a couple...
I'm following... so heres my idea. I'm not gonna flash my phone just yet (I got a good rom working on it), but...
Can someone either point me to an ultra light rom that has titanium home, or possibly explain how to get titanium onto a non-titanium rom? I know thats like asking "how do you build an engine" or something, but is there a good starting point?
All I want is a rom thats fast, has titanium home, and has the Touchflo 2d phone skin (for big fingers).
P.S>. Why do roms slow down over time for no reason? I've noticed the latest crop of 6.5 roms run good for a day or two, then start going REALLY slow. I can't nail it down.. I try Oxios but it doesn't help. I'm not installing anything either. The honeycomb gets jerky, the "red end button" starts getting a lag / not working at all, etc.
Thanks.
Ok, so my wife still has her tp2 and I upgraded it to tmobiles 6.5, then I flashed cell pro rom, leo cell pro, and finally went back to tmobile 6.5. When I had my tp2 I went through about a dozen roms all 6.5.(x in some cases) with sense 2.1 or 2.5. I eventually went back to 6.1 with tf3d 2.1 before I gave up and went for android.
My issue is the massive memory consumption with 6.5/sense. The stock upgrade runs at 70% used ideling. On both our phones I have done the res proxy tweak (setting it to 0/dynamic, and in some cases also deleting resprocy key from HKCU/software/htc/bootlauncher). I have run the no push internet (though tmobile doesnt use push internet on their roms but what the heck right?), I have installed SKTools and had its shadow services running in the background cleaning ram as I go; which doesnt seem to do a damn thing in WM 6.5 unlike in 6.1 it would keep the ram down to 49% used even after two weeks of use). With all of these tweaks, the ram creeps up to 70% again. Granted it boots up at 47% with all of these tweaks and seems like it will idle at around 55-60% fr a while, but then after a few hours of use it is back up to 70%. Sure clean ram will drop it 10-20%, but how is that acceptable to have that program do a cleanup every 3 hours just so the device is functional? At this rate, I have a single tasking phone that is multitask-able once every three hours before the memory is so low I (well now she) has to decide what program she wants to use.
So many of you are saying "Just use a custom rom". Sure, fine, did that. Several times on both phones and guess what? While the bootup may start out lower with the above tweaks, or higher, the end result is ALWAYS something about 70+% after a few hours. On the stock 6.1/tf3d she and I could go a month without a reboot to clean things up, but 6.5 and 6.5.x get to the point were even clean ram can only drop the usage down to about 69%, which quickly just goes right back to 70+%
So I read all the memory issue post and see people claim to keep a constant 60% or 66% and I cry "BS!" I just don't buy it. They post tips that I have tried and nothing works. When these people are asked what they do to manage it, they offer nothing new (I even tried setting the system cache to dangerously low levels as one post recommended!). So I am left to believe they are not being completely truthful or their is some super secret technique out there that does this. If there isnt, how can anybody be happy with having only 30-20% of their memory left for their use? Are you all just using one program at a time? when I used windows mobile I had several programs running at once because it was quicker to switch between my commonly used programs, and my wife is the same way. Now with this upgrade, its one or two programs allowed and the moment you open a third you run the risk of closing one of the other two.... but don't worry, they will be closed in about 5 minutes when cleanram runs it's sweep effectively rendering it a feature phone.
Please someone help me understand the super secret memory management technique everyone but me is using.
Before it is mentioned, I have done several test installing ONLY the rom upgrade or custom rom and not installing third party apps; just using the built in apps: Same result. 6.5 is nice and smooth in its function and she would like to use it, (6.1 was a little slow on some apps and its transcriber would skip; both of these issues are 100% gone in the upgrade).
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Ok, so my wife still has her tp2 and I upgraded it to tmobiles 6.5, then I flashed cell pro rom, leo cell pro, and finally went back to tmobile 6.5. When I had my tp2 I went through about a dozen roms all 6.5.(x in some cases) with sense 2.1 or 2.5. I eventually went back to 6.1 with tf3d 2.1 before I gave up and went for android.
My issue is the massive memory consumption with 6.5/sense. The stock upgrade runs at 70% used ideling. On both our phones I have done the res proxy tweak (setting it to 0/dynamic, and in some cases also deleting resprocy key from HKCU/software/htc/bootlauncher). I have run the no push internet (though tmobile doesnt use push internet on their roms but what the heck right?), I have installed SKTools and had its shadow services running in the background cleaning ram as I go; which doesnt seem to do a damn thing in WM 6.5 unlike in 6.1 it would keep the ram down to 49% used even after two weeks of use). With all of these tweaks, the ram creeps up to 70% again. Granted it boots up at 47% with all of these tweaks and seems like it will idle at around 55-60% fr a while, but then after a few hours of use it is back up to 70%. Sure clean ram will drop it 10-20%, but how is that acceptable to have that program do a cleanup every 3 hours just so the device is functional? At this rate, I have a single tasking phone that is multitask-able once every three hours before the memory is so low I (well now she) has to decide what program she wants to use.
So many of you are saying "Just use a custom rom". Sure, fine, did that. Several times on both phones and guess what? While the bootup may start out lower with the above tweaks, or higher, the end result is ALWAYS something about 70+% after a few hours. On the stock 6.1/tf3d she and I could go a month without a reboot to clean things up, but 6.5 and 6.5.x get to the point were even clean ram can only drop the usage down to about 69%, which quickly just goes right back to 70+%
So I read all the memory issue post and see people claim to keep a constant 60% or 66% and I cry "BS!" I just don't buy it. They post tips that I have tried and nothing works. When these people are asked what they do to manage it, they offer nothing new (I even tried setting the system cache to dangerously low levels as one post recommended!). So I am left to believe they are not being completely truthful or their is some super secret technique out there that does this. If there isnt, how can anybody be happy with having only 30-20% of their memory left for their use? Are you all just using one program at a time? when I used windows mobile I had several programs running at once because it was quicker to switch between my commonly used programs, and my wife is the same way. Now with this upgrade, its one or two programs allowed and the moment you open a third you run the risk of closing one of the other two.... but don't worry, they will be closed in about 5 minutes when cleanram runs it's sweep effectively rendering it a feature phone.
Please someone help me understand the super secret memory management technique everyone but me is using.
Before it is mentioned, I have done several test installing ONLY the rom upgrade or custom rom and not installing third party apps; just using the built in apps: Same result. 6.5 is nice and smooth in its function and she would like to use it, (6.1 was a little slow on some apps and its transcriber would skip; both of these issues are 100% gone in the upgrade).
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I can't offer any magic bullets here for you I'm afraid, but I just wanted to say that I think the blame can be squarely placed on Sense, as opposed to wm6.5 so much. Not to say that 6.5 is some kind of streamlined OS, but just try using the phone for a day, or even just a few hours, with Sense turned off, and this will become obvious.
I know that's not terribly insightful, but in problem solving you always want to divide and conquer, so you can at least know which of those two ways to direct your efforts. I wish you luck, honestly...I think there's a lot more TP2 owners out there who experience it exactly as you do, if not worse. My personal experience on my recent upgrade to a stock 6.5 ROM is slightly better than yours, but no more than 10%, and I'm fastidious about manual memory management (through pretty much the same methods you've listed). The only other thing I do that I don't see a lot of other users here doing, that I believe helps me sidestep other lagging issues, is keeping my sms folders trimmed at all times...as in, no more than 45-50 messages in there live at any given time. Will your memory load decrease if you do the same? I dunno, it's just the only other thing I could think of that you haven't already mentioned
Is "sense" the default UI? The HTC one I mean?
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Is "sense" the default UI? The HTC one I mean?
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On most TP2's yes....there were a few carrier ROMs (like the first tmobile WM6.1 ROM) that had the precursor to Sense, aka TF3D, but most carrier's ROMs either came with Sense or have now been upgraded to it.
Thanks Sirphunkee for your response. After several days of searching and finding no one able to give any sort of real answer to the massive memory consumption sense uses, I have sence reverted her phone back to the stock rom at her request (I dont blame her: 66-73% consumed when ideling is simply not acceptable by any standards). If al she were doing is running the homescreen plugin (sense) I guess this might be fine, but she actually uses the tp2 for other things than just looking at it and scrolling from tab to tab.
After going back to the stock rom, she is now able to use 8 programs at once and still have 45% of her memory available. The machine is snappy and functional even with that type of load on it. The most she could accomplish with 6.5/sense was maybe 5 programs but the machine came screeming to a halt.
I have to say, I am pretty impressed with android however. While it isnt quite where windows mobile was as far as being a completely useful tool (A LOT of uterly useless apps; more sound boards, backgrounds, and fart apps than any teenage boy could ever want!), but its on its way. I just wish it had a true apperatus for syncing to the desktop. This way developers could create companion apps for their software that I could sync with on my desktop. I absolutely hate visiting a website for my data.
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After going back to the stock rom, she is now able to use 8 programs at once and still have 45% of her memory available. The machine is snappy and functional even with that type of load on it. The most she could accomplish with 6.5/sense was maybe 5 programs but the machine came screeming to a halt.
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I'm glad you got something that works the way you want...but 8 programs running at once?! I assume that you're not joking...?
I'm sure that the reason you couldn't find much help on how to free up memory to the level you want is because nobody else needs to run that many programs at once.
Just curious: what 8 programs would a person need to run at the same time? And it's not useful with "only" 3 or 4 programs running simultaneously?
Of course, it's none of my business...I've just never heard of wanting to run that many programs simultaneously. I don't even do that on my PC at work (engineering R&D).
FWIW: My phone (running the ROM in my sig) boots at about 62% memory used and slowly grows. I run cleanRAM when memory use gets well above 70% (even though the phone still seems to perform fine at that level). That usually brings it down by about 15MB. Eventually cleanRAM can't do enough and I soft-reset. I don't find it difficult or inconvenient to do a soft-reset since it only takes a couple of minutes. I find that an acceptable compromise to avoid having to use the inconvenient 6.1 with 2.1. After running 6.5.5 for the past 4 or 5 months I can't even go back to regular 6.5.
YMMV...and obviously does!
Honestly, when my phone (Tilt 2) wakes me up in the morning with the alarm, I immediately do a soft reset while I evacuate fluids and brush teeth. It is good for the day. I tend to hover around 60%.
But I am running the stock Tilt 2 rom which is still 2.1
Don't want to make any form of advertising or spam, but I honestly think that you should try my Hybrid ROM. Sense 2.5 and WM6.1 improves the used memory a lot. Now I have fixed all important incompatibility bugs, so it's reliable and much faster then any other Sense 2.5 rom. If you don't care about the WM6.5 eye-candy and you're prepared for some stylus use, try it.
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I have to say, I am pretty impressed with android however. While it isnt quite where windows mobile was as far as being a completely useful tool (A LOT of uterly useless apps; more sound boards, backgrounds, and fart apps than any teenage boy could ever want!), but its on its way. I just wish it had a true apperatus for syncing to the desktop. This way developers could create companion apps for their software that I could sync with on my desktop. I absolutely hate visiting a website for my data.
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So there's a tool to convert the iPhone marketplace to Android marketplace? Neat.
Honestly mine does great runnin latest energy rom with the ssk and push internet + memory leak mod. have weather animation disabled and also turned off animation on cookie tabs. amazingly quick. my memory runs bout 60% idle.. which is great compared to what it was on the stock att rom. energyrom 4/17/10 6.5 with sense 2.5
I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.
Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.
Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated
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Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.
What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?
ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.
What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?
USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.
Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.
It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.
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Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.
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Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.
I'm on 4.0.2 stock and tried out different. Launchers. Latest was Apex, but about 90% of the time I press the Home button, it's getting killed by the system and reloading takes 3-5 seconds.
Okay, switched back to stock launcher and sure as hell it shows similar behavior, although maybe with a lower percentage. I would guess 40-50%. Still annoying.
Any chance to lower that percentage for both? I love Apex and i know I could root and push it to system, but I don't want to go that way yet. I'm very happy with stock ICS, unrooted and boot-locked so far and don't want to set up everything again. I have about 200 apps installed.
Any ideas? ;-)
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Update: rebooting the phone seems to help a bit. My last uptime was about 4 days which seemed to have added to the problem tremendously. After rebooting, launchers work again as expected, but after another 24 hours uptime or so, they are getting closed more often again. What the hell!
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It's when your memory is low. I had that issue on my fascinate, this may or may not help (I wrote this for AndroidCentral)
This app should fix it: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller I believe this is built into 4.0, but I did a quick check and couldn't find it?
I've been having issues with my phone, and over the past few weeks I figured out how to make my phone a LOT faster. I am running GeeWiz 2.3 GB with KGB Kernel running Voodoo. Obviously you will need to install a Terminal to run the following command, you will also need to be rooted for it to work.
If your launcher constantly reloads every time you press home, try the following command. I had this issue really bad, made my phone unusable this fixes it:
su
Press next line key (enter)
echo ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 >> /data/local.prop
Press enter.
The next step is to enable Z-Ram, I haven't fully tested it (just did it 10 minutes ago) but from my understanding it is virtual memory, so it can't be bad. Your kernel MUST support it or you will get a error doing it. Again, open terminal and do the following:
su
Press enter.
zram enable
Press enter.
Your phone will reboot. And again, remember to accept the SuperUser request.
Although the kernel is supposed to include the "lowmemorykiller" directly, this app won't hurt. Download "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer". After you download and install (again, you need root). Unless you ABSOLUTELY know what you're doing, don't try to tweak anything. Simply go to Menu, Presets, then select Optimum. I aggressive myself, but you will need to mess with this. Aggressive leaves me with about 90MB of free memory which is great.
Clear your dalvik cache!
This is very important! After you do the following tweaks I highly suggest clearing your Dalvik Cache! The Dalvik cache stores optimized versions (optimized for your phone) of your applications, and stores it in the dalvik cache folder (/data/dalvik-cache). Of course, over time this folder could get large or get full of old apps. When you wipe your Dalvik Cache, your phone will (or at least should) rebuild most of your apps (confirm this?). Anyhow! The easiest way to wipe your Dalvik Cache, you need CWM:
1. Turn off your phone
2. When your phone is fully off (I like to pull battery to be sure), press the VOLUME button while HOLDING power.
3. After a few seconds, the phone will turn on. You should see a red menu. Select Advanced.
4. Select Wipe Dalvik Cache
5. Select Yes - Wipe Dalvik Cache
Note: You use the volume buttons to move up and down and "power" button as the OK. While you're at it, you can wipe the cache partition. This will *not* wipe your data.
Install Latest Swype Beta
There are plenty of sites that explain that you have to do this long procedure to remove Swype to install the Beta. This doesn't seem to be necessary, I found that using Titanium Backup works perfectly fine. First, in Titanium Backup, BACKUP Swype then remove it completely. Reboot your phone. Go to Menu->Settings->Language & Keyboard check for anything that has Swype checked and remove it. Next, head over to Swype's website: Swype | Text Input for Screens you will need to register for Swype Beta. They will send you a e-mail with the installer, once you *install* the installer you will need to login. The latest Swype beta seems to update itself, so you only need to do this once. Download the Swype Package (it's large, use Wifi if you can). The Swype Beta is REALLY good.
Voodoo is a really great add on for the fascinate. Samsung uses a slow, but reliable, filesystem which is based off of FAT adding journalisation and POSIX permissions - and after a few days up time, you'll notice a slower phone. Voodoo converts your filesystem to EXT4, greatly increasing your I/O system! The kernel listed below will allow this.
Slow Gallery
We all have it. Gallery is the worse application any phone could have! The fix? Install QuickPic. I've been using Quickpic for awhile and it is A LOT faster then the stock Gallery. My stock gallery is officially removed.
Car/Home Dock
I don't use or like Verizon's dock software. I removed it using Titatium backup, and installed Galaxy Dock Redirector. Once I dock my phone this app automatically redirects audio through the base.
No Task Killer!
Android 2.2+ you do NOT need a task killer! Android is designed to optimize its memory. By using a task killer you are ending processes that might not even be doing anything. Apps are designed to remain "open". This is how you get a faster execution time when you open the app. Once you close an application, it is put in "Background (or idle)" mode. This allows for it to quickly wake up the next time you use it. Android maintains a list of recent applications, and as you go through your apps (Opening Skype, Facebook, Camera, Market, QuickPic, etc) it will determine that you haven't used "Skype" for a long time and shut it down releasing the memory it was using. Now, what happens on our fascinate is when it hits a certain point the phone gets laggy, in stock form. This is why roms that have a lot of RAM seem to run so fast.
This is where the "AutoKiller" memory optimizer comes into play. It changes the memory settings for when Android decides to kill the background apps. Right now my phone is averaging 90-100MB of free memory. Basically, that means my phone runs like a fresh boot almost all the time! This is why AutoKiller seems to work. My settings run on Aggressive, you can change it to anything but there might be negative effects on this.
Don't pull your battery!
Pulling your battery causes damage to your SD Card! You can reboot your phone by pressing Volume UP and POWER button for about 5-10 seconds. This will restart your phone even if it's frozen.
Recommended Apps
AutoKiller Memory Optimizer:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
market.android.com/details?id=com.rs.autokiller
Terminal:
https://market.android.com/details?i...al.androidterm
market.android.com/details?id=jackpal.androidterm
Best App around!
Lookout Mobile Security:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lookout
market.android.com/details?id=com.lookout
Does not impede performance, and allows tracking if your device is lost or stolen!
Voodoo Control:
https://market.android.com/details?i...doo.controlapp
market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlapp
Allows you to control + enable/disable voodoo EXT
QuickPic:
https://market.android.com/details?i...ensw.PicFolder
market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
Replaces Gallery, LOT faster.
Galaxy Dock Sound Redirector:
https://market.android.com/details?i...ight.dockredir
Dropbox:
https://market.android.com/details?i...ropbox.android
market.android.com/details?id=com.dropbox.android
Store files in a "cloud"!
GoSMS:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jb.gosms
My favorite SMS app.
Go Launcher:
https://market.android.com/details?i....go.launcherex
market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
My favorite launcher.
Go Locker:
https://market.android.com/details?i...g.goscreenlock
market.android.com/details?id=com.jiubang.goscreenlock
Change your default locker. Still trying to figure out how to uninstall the stock locks
Copilot USA:
https://market.android.com/details?i...lot.market.usa
market.android.com/details?id=com.alk.copilot.market.usa
There's a LOT of debate about this. I've not had any issue with this application at all. It's in fact one my favorite navigation software. It's gotten me around to a lot of places with no problem, I highly recommend it despite its high price.
Root Explorer:
https://market.android.com/details?i...e.rootexplorer
market.android.com/details?id=com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer
I've done so much with this application, no explanation needed!
WhatsApp
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.whatsapp
market.android.com/details?id=com.whatsapp
Allows FREE international text messaging to almost any phone!
Chainfire3D
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cf3d
market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cf3d
A pretty neat app that acts as a OpenGL driver for your phone. Allows you to control OpenGL settings per applications (lower graphic settings on games, etc)
Swype alternative - Flex T9
https://market.android.com/details?i...e.flext9.input
market.android.com/details?id=com.nuance.flext9.input
After realizing the Swype beta doesn't work on the Galaxy Nexus, I searched for a new keyboard. After using it for a day, I found a link to a working Swype beta. After installing swype, I switched back to Flex T9. It works better. It has some issues I wish it would handle better, but I can type faster than I could on Swype. Highly recommended, worth the $.
Resources
GeeWiz Rom:
[ROM][KERNEL][RECOVERY][11.30.2011] GeeWiz 2.3 EH03 TouchWiz Debloated - xda-developers
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278838
KGB Kernel:
[KERNEL][TWGB][updated 12/02] KGB Kernel: A Kernel for Gingerbread (EH09/EI20/EH03) - xda-developers
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364912
EH03 Modem (latest Verizon Release):
Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites!
www.multiupload.com/UO5VDDSCT0
Fascinate Information:
Samsung Fascinate - Rooted Wiki
wiki.rootedwiki.com/wiki/Samsung_Fascinate
Really good site:
[GUIDE][HOW-TO] Clockwork Mod Recovery
droidforums.net/forum/samsung-fascinate-development/137071-guide-how-clockwork-mod-recovery.html
Managing Contacts
Most people don't know you can manage all your contacts with Google from your PC. You can add, edit, delete contacts. They are instantly updated on your phone. You can do this by signing into your google account and going here: http://google.com/contacts
google.com/contacts
I created a group called "Android Contacts" and assigned everyone I wanted in my phone there. Then I set my phone to only display "Android Contacts" group.
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Thanks for the effort and your help. Only problem is, my phone is not rooted and actually I didn't plan to anytime soon. Only problem I have is this launcher issue which becomes worse the longer the uptime is.
I had an HTC Legend before and rooted and modded the hell out it, but one of the reasons I got the the Gnex was to enjoy stock Android in its purest form for a couple of months and maybe start rooting and ROMing sometime next year, when I get bored with it.
So far I was happy to enjoy a phone that actually worked right out of the box without tweaks, UI customizations and other gimmicky. Hmm! Guess it doesn't.
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Yes... usually custom roms put a very high priority or "no-kill" for the launcher(s).
Another root solution, although I haven't tested it and I'm not sure it works on the GNex:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I've tried these scripts and I am a huge fan; refer to the second page where it outlines that you need a patched service.jar file. It links to a site that does it automatically for you. I found it didn't work when trying to install the zip from CWM recovery, so I recommend replacing the file manually by navigating to \system\framework on your Gnex.
Make sure you get the latest supercharger rc file. I believe it was 8.1 or higher. The script itself is very helpful as you're running it.
http://android.mimic.ca/
Use that.
And like the above guy said...the CWM option doesn't work.
So just run the commands that the website gives you in Terminal Emulator.
I don't personally use anything OTHER than this.
The V6 supercharger isn't something I fancy.
Mine doesn't do this. Stock or rom. Might wanna go through your App settings and see what is using up your RAM. That's what causes it. Hope that helps =)
I don't seem to get this problem on 4.0.4 since I updated.
I have had been rooting my s2 since i have gotten over a year ago, and have not had lag issues with too much RAM being used. Now the other day my phone started using 600+ mb of RAM. I was on rooted 4.1.2 With GB27 modem. I thought resetting phone completely would work, but no hope. I wiped everything, and 5 min after powering up it still uses 600+ mb of RAm
I flashed multiple JB Roms to my phone with no avail. I am currently running SenseWiz 2.0 on 4.1.2 GB27 (followed steps in the Roms thread 100% to flash this btw). It still uses no less than 500+ mb of ram. This phone has never lagged on me before and it really irritates me. Something as simple as pulling down notification bar even lags.
Please let me know what I need to do to fix this.
Also not sure if this is right forum section, but sounded like a noob question to me lol.:crying:
colbyt94 said:
I have had been rooting my s2 since i have gotten over a year ago, and have not had lag issues with too much RAM being used. Now the other day my phone started using 600+ mb of RAM. I was on rooted 4.1.2 With GB27 modem. I thought resetting phone completely would work, but no hope. I wiped everything, and 5 min after powering up it still uses 600+ mb of RAm
I flashed multiple JB Roms to my phone with no avail. I am currently running SenseWiz 2.0 on 4.1.2 GB27 (followed steps in the Roms thread 100% to flash this btw). It still uses no less than 500+ mb of ram. This phone has never lagged on me before and it really irritates me. Something as simple as pulling down notification bar even lags.
Please let me know what I need to do to fix this.
Also not sure if this is right forum section, but sounded like a noob question to me lol.:crying:
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Hi. Someone can give you a better answer, but something to check first is what's using it. I don't have this phone, but I think the location is:
Settings -> ________ (a tab) -> Applications -> then "swipe right" to show Running Apps. Since I don't think most people have this issue, it might be an app you installed that's just bogging down the phone. It should show as running, and maybe several processes. What app(s) do you install after flashing the ROM? (For example I install Yahoo Mail, Netflix, etc.) Or maybe some apps got in their with some crazy default app settings that make them stay awake and work all the time.
Use the Greenify app. It's amazing - puts to sleep the stuff you do not need until you open that app. For example, you don't need Angry Birds up in your business unless you want to play it, lol... that can clear RAM too...
G'luck. :good:
erikalin said:
Hi. Someone can give you a better answer, but something to check first is what's using it. I don't have this phone, but I think the location is:
Settings -> ________ (a tab) -> Applications -> then "swipe right" to show Running Apps. Since I don't think most people have this issue, it might be an app you installed that's just bogging down the phone. It should show as running, and maybe several processes. What app(s) do you install after flashing the ROM? (For example I install Yahoo Mail, Netflix, etc.) Or maybe some apps got in their with some crazy default app settings that make them stay awake and work all the time.
Use the Greenify app. It's amazing - puts to sleep the stuff you do not need until you open that app. For example, you don't need Angry Birds up in your business unless you want to play it, lol... that can clear RAM too...
G'luck. :good:
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Thank you. I already have greenify and still no luck. I am ready to throw this phone at a wall! It is so slow.