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Fastest WM6/6.1 ROM currently available (Feb 08)

Having just purchased my 8525 several weeks ago, I have undergone the grueling exercise of reading, downloading, reading, downloading, more reading, more downloading... in my quest for the fastest stable ROM. While I appreciate the all hard work of our ROM cookers, and I recognize that each ROM will meet specific individual needs, I have yet to find a ROM that compares to the speed of K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite.
I was flabbergasted yesterday when I did a comparison. After having read many posts on the speed of the new WM6.1, I decided to give it a whirl and see what I was missing. I looked for a good WM6.1 Lite edition to flash and eventually found one that was reported stable with good reviews. Upon flashing, I noticed that it seemed snappy at first as I tapped through the settings, explorer. I was looking for any delays in response or program load times. I installed Pocket Informant 8 and opened and closed the program several times to visually test the speed (I like to close out of applications and have them reopen with speed when I need them).
I was tempted to leave it on for a while but I decided to flash back to compare and see if I could notice any difference right away... I was shocked with the results. As soon as I flashed back to K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite ROM, I immediately noticed the difference, K's was much faster. Additionally, as soon as I did a hard reset, I noted the program memory sitting at 32.06 (available). I have not officially "benchmarked" these as I don't really know how, but as far as opening applications, moving through settings/programs, and using file explorers, K's takes the cake.
Now I realize that there are many variables to consider (the WM6.1 ROM I used, programs included/ excluded with Lite versions etc.) but as far as lightning fast ROMs, can anyone else support my conclusions? For those of you using K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite ROM please weigh in with your thoughts. If you haven't yet tried it and your looking for speed, please give it a try and let us know what you think. If I am correct, then I can only imagine what a WM6.1 Lite by Kin0Kin could do?

I can only say that what you tested was "out of the box" performance.
I always temper with my OS, removing services & changing reg. definitions.
I feel WM6.1 is faster.
I think the first factor that affects performance is the added apps and as a result how many files sit in the WINDOWS folder(thats why the lite versions work faster...)
The next factor is reg hacks.
I think we should install a version as lite as we can, and as new as you can find then - add your stuff.

I have to agree with the above post. I've been using cooked ROMs since I got my 8525 a year ago...now I'm using Schaps WM 6.1 and to me it is the most stable. I have tried CRC's and Pays but to me, Schaps is the most stable and quickest...I have good battery life and can reasonably use (most of) my programs.
I've had to reflash about ten times trying different programs and different setups but now it's pretty snappy and I'm happy with my set up.
Best I can tell you is try flashing a few different ones and see which one gives you the most mileage.
Hope This Helps,
Jim

Jazz8 said:
Having just purchased my 8525 several weeks ago, I have undergone the grueling exercise of reading, downloading, reading, downloading, more reading, more downloading... in my quest for the fastest stable ROM. While I appreciate the all hard work of our ROM cookers, and I recognize that each ROM will meet specific individual needs, I have yet to find a ROM that compares to the speed of K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite.
I was flabbergasted yesterday when I did a comparison. After having read many posts on the speed of the new WM6.1, I decided to give it a whirl and see what I was missing. I looked for a good WM6.1 Lite edition to flash and eventually found one that was reported stable with good reviews. Upon flashing, I noticed that it seemed snappy at first as I tapped through the settings, explorer. I was looking for any delays in response or program load times. I installed Pocket Informant 8 and opened and closed the program several times to visually test the speed (I like to close out of applications and have them reopen with speed when I need them).
I was tempted to leave it on for a while but I decided to flash back to compare and see if I could notice any difference right away... I was shocked with the results. As soon as I flashed back to K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite ROM, I immediately noticed the difference, K's was much faster. Additionally, as soon as I did a hard reset, I noted the program memory sitting at 32.06 (available). I have not officially "benchmarked" these as I don't really know how, but as far as opening applications, moving through settings/programs, and using file explorers, K's takes the cake.
Now I realize that there are many variables to consider (the WM6.1 ROM I used, programs included/ excluded with Lite versions etc.) but as far as lightning fast ROMs, can anyone else support my conclusions? For those of you using K's WM6.0 FINAL Lite ROM please weigh in with your thoughts. If you haven't yet tried it and your looking for speed, please give it a try and let us know what you think. If I am correct, then I can only imagine what a WM6.1 Lite by Kin0Kin could do?
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Generally 6.1 is faster than 6. Kin0Kin uses a 6mb page pool and a file cache to speed performance, additionally it is an exceptionally well built ROM. This means that after opening a large number of programs those programs will run faster but you will have less memory available to open other programs. In implemenation I have never run into a memory chrunch while using K ROM final. That said if you take a 6.1 rom, set the page pool to 6mb and setup a file cache (I believe K uses 4 MB) it more than likely will be faster than K Rom final (if it is a well cooked ROM). However you may just want to wait for K to release his 6.1 rom when it is out of Beta (still kinda buggy) promises to be blazing fast and to have visual overhaul.

Thanks for taking the time to reply fellas! I should maybe clarify what I was trying to say. I was really wondering if anyone has tried various lite ROMs out there (including K's Final), and if so, how do you think they compared?
This question may be a little too subjective to answer with any certainty but it might point others in the right direction if they are looking for a fast Lite ROM. My intention here is not to put other ROM cookers down by the way; I have a great respect for these individuals who have give so much of their time to this community. In the end though, it seems that each ROM has it's specialties and IMHO, K's WM6 Final Lite ROM specializes in speed (among other things).
With all of my programs loaded: PI8, PB, ILauncher, WBA Lite, Total Comander2.5, on device, and about 6 or so more on the storage card, I sit now with the following:
28MB+/- program memory available
57mb+/- Storage memory available
I have already tested various ROMs and have yet to find one more responsive, not just "out of the box". Are there others who have also experienced this? Kin0Kin may not make a Lite ROM for 6.1 and I'm o.k. with that (given enough support who knows) Anyway, if his WM6 Lite ROM is the fastest currently out there, then think of how fast a 6.1 Lite release by K could be. In any case, I am looking forward to using his 6.1 once he releases it.
So to clarify again, for those of you who have used various lite ROMs (including K's Final), how do/did you find they compared? If there was a tread like this months ago, I might have found K's a little quicker (lol). Thanks again for input!

Well..I am one of the lite Rom fans too...I agree with you that they are faster than the full versions. However, as soon as you install bunch of your apps, it becomes as fast as a regular full rom. The only reason I use lite versions is that I believe that the less apps you cook in a rom the less buggy it is and since I have the standard set of apps that I always intall in a rom which most of the rom cooker don't include in their roms, or include along with other apps that I don't use, which again make a rom buggier.
So, again, lite is fast before you intall your apps, and it is great for customization it terms of installing your own apps.
P.S. I read someone saying that they never had an issue with having not enough memory(RAM). That's exactly what happened to me. I didn't understand the point of having a lot of RAM. But recently, after I started using spb pocket plus, spb mobile shell, htc home all together, I found out that I am running out of RAM, now I need more RAM. Because having all these apps running plus a music player I have around 6-8 of free memory, which I never used to have less than 20MB.

I have to go with Matt's Pandora Naked roms. I've tried a bunch and really like PN7.2. I run a lot of software and his rom has a ton of ram and storage. I included a screenshot with the mem in top right with Pocketplus, pocketweather, S2US, pockettoolman, Qmenu etc.
Anyhow, I like K's roms too, so in the end it's up to you to decide. I'm a Ram freak and like to keep a lot free. So good luck

Agree with noellenchris, I am using Pandora Naked 7b2 WM6 really great, very fast & stable. With lots of Memory & space. My experience with WM6.1 wasn't so good I had to revert back to WM6, I am lovin it..

BTW can anybody please tell me what is page pool. I am not aware what exactly it means.

sakshamkatyal said:
BTW can anybody please tell me what is page pool. I am not aware what exactly it means.
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Matt uses a 6mb page pool in PN7.2. Page pool is like the file cache for ram, if you tend to use many smaller programs at the same time, then 4mb or 6mb is ok. If you use one larger program at a time and close when done then 6-10mb is better. The page pool comes at the expense of available RAM though. But remember that the programs are using this page pool as a cache.
Sort of like the cache on the processors of your computer. It's fast memory readily available for the processor to use. Hope this helps
Chris

i always liked schap's roms, then i tried pay's (that one wasnt bad either), but in the end ShadoW TE 6.1 won overall, even though it doesnt use the latest build, it s really stable and fast - plus i dont have to bother with reinstalling all the dark skins/themes/cabs

Has anyone pointed you to KarHu's posts...? He has done an excellent job benchmarking roms... Currently, I think he is up to 52 different roms... I usually wait for him to post his results before I decide on a different version to use... Sometimes, my illness takes over and I can't wait.. Ok, usually this happens, but it is a good resource nonetheless...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320370

debonairone said:
Sometimes, my illness takes over and I can't wait..
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Isn't that the truth. Sometimes I wish I never knew about this site....

Faria has just posted his latest build on WM6.1.
This also seems to be fast and stable you can try out this.

fasterfester said:
Isn't that the truth. Sometimes I wish I never knew about this site....
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yeah, at 2am, when I just decide to pop in and see a new rom, I gotta flash it then...

I'm getting my 8525 back sometime today with a white screen. If I can unbrick it, I'll most likely continue using vp3G 3.0. It was always fast.

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Debonairone, I never new about that post before, it's very insightful. I would like to see K's newest Lite (Final) tested soon, I tried Shamanix's Grass 2.2 and it was excellent but K's felt a little faster so it would be interesting to see it benched. I had to laugh when I read about your 2AM flash comments. I've had about 3 of these over the past week. This seems to be the only time I find lately, after the kids are asleep and I finish all my other "chores" (lol).
Chris, thanks for pointing out Pandora's Naked ROM. I flashed the latest and it is very impressive. I would say K's Lite is very comparable to this, especially with the available memory "out of the box" (4vs6mb pagepool accounted for). K's out of the box available Program memory was 32.20 with a 4mb PagePool and Pandora's was 30.46 with 6mb PagePool; Storage was also close.
I too love my memory and I think that Pandor's Naked ROMs are almost identical in free memory if not a tad more but I do have to take into account that K's had more programs already loaded namely Office 2007, Calculator and games (I used cabs for PN9). I was also comparing WM6 with a naked WM6.1 BTW I love the fact that Pandora has the 6.1 "naked". On the other side of the coin, K has the larger dialer buttons/skin and in his 6.1 (Full) he uses the 5.0 Camera (still bugged though). I'm hoping to see a fixed Camera 5.0 in his next release. Overall, I think the two ROMs are very comparable I should have compared PN7 but it was to tempting to try 9 and I am getting tired of flashing (must have done 30 over the past few days).
I guess when it comes to speed, there are many ROMs that are close in speed and memory. In the end, it probably comes down to a matter of personal opinion. I like PN9 and I'll be keeping my eye on this although, there is something about the feel of K's latest ROMs that I am in Love with. With WM6.1 out now I guess we'll see some new speed records and be back at this topic in several months Thanks for the link and much insight fellas,
Jazz8

Best / Reliable 6.1 Roms

Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.

sammyboy405 said:
Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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u have to load each because each user here may have a different experience with each because for me one rom maybe perfect next person may crash left and right and so on so only way to know is trying each like i like pvh 19400 although am now trying pvh19900

To a fellow OK State alumn, I have tested at least a dozen different 6.1 ROMS and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
has been the cleanest, fastest, and most stable one for me. Just add the applications you want.

Much thanks! Yea thats the one i was toying around with. There are so many apps out there. I dont know where to start. and which ones would tailor towards my use.

i downloaded and tried them all,
Quite happy with the one ive got now, many have loads of apps but you start to loose available RAM when that happens.
best just to try a few and see which one best suits what you want to do, suggestion though is to keep your PIM and other things backed up incase you need to do a hard reset in the event of a freeze

Just keep on this forum as often as you can. It took me months to find out what I wanted and what worked. Just be patient and play around. It is more of a hobby to me than anything.

less questions and read read read the thread posts!! try a few with features u like! all the cooks have great roms if u know how to use them....

Best ROM
I have install and test almost all the WM 6.1 ROMS.
Like the other guys say you really have to test out a ROM as you might like some features over others.
In my time i have found the following:
TNT ROM WM6.1 to be the best all rounder - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
Only thing i don't like about it is the startup speed. Every with the animation disabled and the network auto config it still makes a good long while.
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favourite ROM so far but does not come with many applications

im using pays rom 6.1, use it for a month now. stable and quite fast

level5_HTC said:
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favorite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
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Its what I have and his review is spot on. Its very fast, probably the fastest I have ever used and incredibly fast startup time. It was missing many of the programs I like but thankfully I already had them on my storage card from playing with a Schaps Lite ROM a while back. I think my last changes will be a flashlight software like vjcandela and something better for BT transfers but all in all this is a great ROM and will definitely keep me happy until the next Schaps is released.

I like PDAViet build 19900... It is SOOOOOOOOO fast and had a remarkable 28Mb of ram left after installing it with almost 70Mb storage memory. Now down to about 25MB ram and 45Mb storage as I've put a heap of 3rd party apps on...Cheers...

the last Binky 6.1 WM 3.5 is a great slim one and you have the possibility to install your own apps after flashing
but guys, I can't beam files using the f***ing IR port... anyidea about it?

Poll: Which WM 6.1 ROM?

Just a quick poll for my own curiosity if nothing else, which WM 6.1 ROM are you using?
If not one of the above, please add a post explaining which.
Also, are there are any newer benchmarks available than those shown here?

You forgot "Binky11's ROM". Best I have used so far.

We seem to be getting a few 'others', but no indication which they are?

I'm currently using Faria's/Dr. Puttingham's ROM but it seems a little unstable, as the OS freezes on me forcing me to pull the battery to reset. I installed it yesterday, with 2 freezes already. I think I'm going to try another one. I use an 8525 btw.
-PB

PDACorner's ROM's have been the cleanest and most stable for me. He is always using the latest builds. I am currently using V.14. build 20226.

Personally I stay away from super storage ROMS. I don't have a need for them, and maybe by sheer coincidence I've only had 1 hard-reset for all the ROMs I've tried, whereas it seems like other folks were having them more often.
I've been a fan of the pdaviet ROMs, but lately have been happy with CRCs... not sure if you need to break out his dev ROMs from stable, since one is just a progression to another.
Stable, with good available program memory.

I used schaps 4 for ages, but I find myself more and more taking a simple "no options" rom (like the PDACorner rom) and adding the dialer, interface, and applications that I really want, instead of using some rom someone else builds.
So I guess you could say I use PDACorner with LOTS of mods.

CRC's 11.2 and 12.2 is the same
Basically re numbered. I too have issues with BS ROMs, my device seems not to agree with it! I would love to try again in the near future, but I use my device for business and can not afford hard resets at all. I go with CRC's ROM for weeks with the only need to power off and on again with side button every other week.
I don't know why but I can't seem to find others that would not hard reset on me, yet.

I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.

yesod7 said:
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.

zocster said:
Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Oh. Right. Well, uh, if you ever get a Tilt, you should use this ROM...

i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs. im still using sleuth 3.1 from 7/5/07! =P. it's a PITA to backup data then upgrade, then resync data.
but i'm looking forward to upgrading soon, i think wm6.1 improves performance+stability yes?

JediFonger said:
i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs.
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Agreed, i am sick of using WM6.1 to do the ASSync issue which seems to be present even in the official ROM's

Dvha79_ddt
Its always updated with the latest build. Its clean and stable. Suits my taste.

for what it's worth see my signature...

I have tried at some point just about every 6.1 rom I can find on this forum.
The PDAcorner v16 seemed good, and VERY fast, but I didnt like the UI or the idea of how long it would take me to get it how I like it.
I LOVE CRC's roms, they are clean, stable, and fast. Using 12.2 atm! with a 8meg page pool, dam fast!

For those who speak of the "latest build" ala PDA Viet and PDA corner...is there actually a noticeable difference when u flash to a later build ROM? I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much and then when you consider that you can try the same ROM with so many Pagepool settings, sigh....i could be spending HOURS testing ROMS and just don't have the time to play with them all and at diff settings. That is why I am VERY glad for a thread like this, cause it seems to be frowned upon to compare the ROMS on this site (or mainly to ask the oppinion for a ROM)...i don't exactly understand that, why not discuss and compare them?
what i am wondering, are the latest builds considered to always be the best? i feel like there are so many factors (including unknown ones) that attribute to a ROM being a good working ROM.
for those who have tried lots of the PDAVIET ROMS, any thoughts on which is/are the best?
I can't pick one of the ROMS on the list, but i will say this, i've been on WM6.1 for a while and am considering trying 6.0 again to get a new frame of reference to tell if one is indeed better than the other for me

Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] With add on's

I'm using CRC12.3 at the moment, but I'm not all that rapt in it.
PDV has had some good ones. Does a nice clean install and removes rubbish that other ROMs leave behind. Got rid of a bug that had plagued me for months.
PDACorner has had some good ones.
Randomize had the best package that needed the least customising by me.
I guess I'm just a ROM junkie.
Been thinking of upgrading to a Samsung i900, but then I'd miss all this fun.

Dillsnik said:
I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much
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You can use UC/sdconfig.txt to re-install all your favourite programs that run from internal RAM. Most of the stuff I want to add back in runs off my SD card. I just keep the cabs in a separate folder on my SD card and work through them. Only takes a few minutes.
Biggest hassle I had was with contacts and email settings.
But PIMBackup restores contacts in a flash, and Settings Savior restores all my email accounts (about 4 or 5).
Now I can re-flash and be back in operation in under 30 minutes.

manilla2d vs HTC Home in memory terms

Hello, I was usgin joshoss V8B2 manilla2d and with some apps installed (via device update) I was left with like 10 megs free, so I tried the PDACornerPro.V27 - Build 20759 NonRBSN Josh-Abs (both greeeeeeeeat ROMS!!!!) and installed basically the same apps with the addition of HTC Home to have a nice look and feel (closer to manilla)... and ended up with around 12 megs free.... so I'm not sure which one is eating more resources.... any idea? manilla is still more unstable, right?
diego

Personally I do not feel that manila is for the hermes, until I get my touch3g I am going to run HTC home and spb mobile shell.

I am also quite interested in the study...
Currently using HTC HOme and happy with it, but if Manilla doesn't consume much more resources (In terms of RAM: for the storage we can all use a Micro SD anyway...), I would immediately switch !!!
Anybody can comment more?

I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...

I am a streamline fanatic and like to keep my resources in check. Personally, on the Hermes I think Manila eats up to many resources.
Maybe in the earlier versions there might have been some memory leaks, but I noticed that in the end, I would end up with under 20megs of ram. And if you play with Manila that would go down. HTC Home uses about 4 megs.
Also when I had Manila on, I found that Opera would crash more often, mostly due to running out of memory while it would never do such thing while running HTC Home.
Also I noticed some sluggishness on the Hermes while using Manila, which also sometimes took a little longer --5-10 seconds-- to load, depending on the ROM.
So all in all, once HTC Home is loaded, it is always almost instantaneous, while Manila would again slowdown the phone in mid-operation. And by that I mean switching from the Today Screen to let's say settings or programs.

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I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...
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I believe Josh's version is stable (from what I read)

Hi guys,
I tried like 4-5 Manilla 2D builds. They all had some bugs which weren't such a pain in the ass, but they were annoying. I was using PDA Corner V25 - great rom. Several days ago I installed PDAViet's Manilla2D v20 ROM and I must admit it is great. I didn't have any problems with manilla in terms of performance. The RAM left is 21MB on boot. The overall performance of the ROM is great. All apps work as fast as on the abusalza's rom. However I haven't tested the YouTube app, since I don't use it. The only problem is the lower in call volume compared to abusalza's rom. And if you use video call, I'm not sure if it's included.

I used multiple ROMs with Manilla 2D .. im now flashing backa again to a ROM without Manilla because i had too many problems with it.. i'm used to listen a lot of music... but with manilla on my Hermie the battery is empty so fast that sometimes i don't even have the chance to lsiten to the music ( i recharge it every night.. and i usually listen to music at about 15:00 pm.. by then it's already on low battery =s
on the other hand there are some stupid buggs in it.. like youtube doesnt work... sometimes the usb-connection doesnt work.. or what also bothers me is the volume control that is removed from audiomanager... there are also some other small problems which bother me but i'm not going to spend any more time on it right now
sorry for my bad english =)
ps. if somebody finds a tool for me to change the music player in manilla ( like from audiomanager to windows mediaplayer) pm me pls..

yes, in my case, I was using Josh's version and it was very stable and had I think all functionality working...the problem was after installing some apps, and after runining for a while opening and closing things I get an error of out of memory...
is there a way to make all "Device Update" to install on storage card?
will some more space on main memory help the RAM issue?

I've tried it out a bit. I'm using update 19 from here, and the Manilla 2D Customiser. On CRC's 13.0 naked non-big storage rom, I used UC to put on all the cab files in the right order, except for the Opera and Youtube apps. Using the customiser, I have removed the internet, mapping and settings tabs, and it runs pretty smoothly. Usually between 18-20MB RAM free. This does tend to go down a bit with usage, but I tend to soft-reset daily, and its not really a problem.

been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.

SlakerBoi said:
been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.
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I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.

When I try to update library from storage card it will start to adding files then stop. Any suggestions. It worked fine with another rom I was using.

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I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.
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i really have the same problem asa u, and now i do not deside to flash any ROM that had installed the M2D, & I like Spb Shell most, cause it is nice and stable

[Q] I am new to flashing ROM, but my phone isn't.

I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.

Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.

Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated

haus en heimer said:
Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.

What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?

ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.

What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?

USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.

Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.

It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.

Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.

How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!

haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.

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Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.

haus en heimer said:
If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!

redpoint73 said:
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.

Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.