Hi.
It's possible to turn on BA without battery inside but when it's connected to AC/Usb? How can I do it?
as far as i know it's not possible. but a battery doesn't cost much nowadays.
EDIT: btw, i wouldn't expect much help here. either everybody is dead or they just dont give a damn.
no it is just, that the question is redundant, take out the battery, put in the charger cable and try it out, that is way faster than asking on the internet. if you had at least told us, what the general idea behind that is, there would be further help.
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no it is just, that the question is redundant, take out the battery, put in the charger cable and try it out, that is way faster than asking on the internet. if you had at least told us, what the general idea behind that is, there would be further help.
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i didn't mean specificly his post. i ment more generally. since it appears that i'm the only one reading this forum. however it might be related to the age of the blueangels. since they're so old nobody uses them anymore. ergo, no help with issues.
EDIT: i was thinking of buying a new one since mine died. but when the is no "fanbase" so to speak, its qute a waste of money.
LED light orange color but nothing more. Device is off and cannot turn it to WM. I heard there is hardware hack that allow to use BA on cable but you must connect 3 pins that really connects to battery
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i didn't mean specificly his post. i ment more generally. since it appears that i'm the only one reading this forum. however it might be related to the age of the blueangels. since they're so old nobody uses them anymore. ergo, no help with issues.
EDIT: i was thinking of buying a new one since mine died. but when the is no "fanbase" so to speak, its qute a waste of money.
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i feel a bit offended, since on the last 10 pages in each section of the blueangel subforum, there is practically no post, that i didn't read, in fact, if you had a look at some threads, you would see, that most of the last posts in those threads are solutions, offered by either me or egzthunder, which is why i have 600 posts. actually, there is no issue going unsolved here, and you will see there are a lot of very active members here.
sorry that this was not a very constructive post.
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i feel a bit offended, since on the last 10 pages in each section of the blueangel subforum, there is practically no post, that i didn't read, in fact, if you had a look at some threads, you would see, that most of the last posts in those threads are solutions, offered by either me or egzthunder, which is why i have 600 posts. actually, there is no issue going unsolved here, and you will see there are a lot of very active members here.
sorry that this was not a very constructive post.
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if i offended you i apoligize. however i haven't seen you anyware else then the upgrade and wm6 subforum. just to point out what i mean, my thread was the first for nearly a month without posts. so it looked like the blueangel subforum was pretty much dead.
that is true, actually. the blueangel accessories sction is not frequently used as well. you see, most people don't come here very frequently, just to check for new roms, so they visit the wm6 section, when something goes wrong while upgrading to those roms, they post in upgrading, there are hardly any general blueangel issues these days, or people in need of wm2003 support. also there are no new accessories coming out. also, since a general questions and answers thread is also to be found in the wm6 section, most people come there for problems.
but you are right, it seems, these days most people just come for the roms and how to get them flashed, and hardly anyone really appreciates the device itself. many people left the blueangel section to go on to the universal of one of the new devices. there was a thread "do you still use your blueangel (as a phone)" some months ago, that als showed that many people moved on and just have the blueangel to play around with.
also, now that i think i fully understood the intention behind your last post, there really was no reason to be offended, it was obviously due to a misscommunication.
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that is true, actually. the blueangel accessories sction is not frequently used as well. you see, most people don't come here very frequently, just to check for new roms, so they visit the wm6 section, when something goes wrong while upgrading to those roms, they post in upgrading, there are hardly any general blueangel issues these days, or people in need of wm2003 support. also there are no new accessories coming out. also, since a general questions and answers thread is also to be found in the wm6 section, most people come there for problems.
but you are right, it seems, these days most people just come for the roms and how to get them flashed, and hardly anyone really appreciates the device itself. many people left the blueangel section to go on to the universal of one of the new devices. there was a thread "do you still use your blueangel (as a phone)" some months ago, that als showed that many people moved on and just have the blueangel to play around with.
also, now that i think i fully understood the intention behind your last post, there really was no reason to be offended, it was obviously due to a misscommunication.
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the thing is that the blueangel is still a very competitive unit. too bad nobody uses the anymore. and i think i'll just copy paste my thread to the upgrading forum, maybe i'll have more luck there. since i died just minutes before being flashed to wm6.
that is true, maybe some hardware aspects are outdated, like qvga, wi-fi B only (also no newer encryptions) and it lacks G-Sensor, GPS and other gadgets, but it is a solid pda, a great phone, and since the software is always up to date, you can still make fun of people with an iphone for spending hundreds while our device is better in many ways and just costs 50
BlueAngel for his year of production is awesome and still hangs medium level in all other phones. I think much of them are dead and there's not much owners of it. I am using Universal too and it's not best at all but i like it. I think it depends of how much you like this phone not functions or whatever. Classics are always good.
Okay. Anyone know is it really posssible to turn it on when battery isn't inside? And something about in post #5?
mesaj said:
BlueAngel for his year of production is awesome and still hangs medium level in all other phones. I think much of them are dead and there's not much owners of it. I am using Universal too and it's not best at all but i like it. I think it depends of how much you like this phone not functions or whatever. Classics are always good.
Okay. Anyone know is it really posssible to turn it on when battery isn't inside? And something about in post #5?
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sorry mate, didnt mean to hijack your thread anyways if you have one of those transformators. you know, the one you use in chemistry or physics. you connect it to 230 or 110v and you can set the voltage and ampere. simply hook it up to the unit. the thing they use in CSI to resurrect dead phones.
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After a short, and forced, vacation I'm back! LOL Anyways.. My ELF rom will be recooked shortly. Primary support will STILL be at htc-devs.com (I like it there ). It is a totally different style of rom cooking.. Mostly relying on extrom and .cabs to allow for greater end-user flexibility. My rom won't be for everyone, but, it should allow for a nice option--unique from other roms on here.
Creativity is the name of this rom..
Welcome back. Missed your style and errr creative replies to noobs.
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Welcome back. Missed your style and errr creative replies to noobs.
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I'm supposed to be nicer to n00bs on HERE.. On htc-devs.com however, I can be as mean as ever!
So, n00bs on here... Just RTFM and RTFW.. *I* am certainly not going to help you fix something you broke because you're too lazy to read...
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I'm supposed to be nicer to n00bs on HERE.. On htc-devs.com however, I can be as mean as ever!
So, n00bs on here... Just RTFM and RTFW.. *I* am certainly not going to help you fix something you broke because you're too lazy to read...
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and if you still cant fix it come to htc-devs.com, im sure the elf will help you there...
*muhahahahahaha*
Elf was gone? Oh well... welcome back even though I never knew you were gone...
j/k
btw... nice photoshop work
actually mikechannon photoshopped that
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Priceless.
You know, reminds me of a MasterCard commercial ("Priceless").... But, I probably shouldn't do it.. It wouldn't be a "kinder and gentler" Elf moment..
Welcome back ELF.
Digging the new avatar too, BTW.
Welcome back Elf. We missed you. Well, I *would* have missed you if I didn't see you in IRC and at HTC-DEVS every day - I really would have.
welcome back bro. sucks xda has to bee noob friendly... their burden annoys us all!
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welcome back bro. sucks xda has to bee noob friendly... their burden annoys us all!
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There ARE newbies like myself, who bricked their phones upgrading (I had a PC crash) and figured out how to fix it by going through the WIKI even though some create threads doesn't mean every newbie does it :>
n00bs are critical to the success of XDA-Developers. We tolerate and help them because our best developers were once n00bs. Devices are constantly changing and our "experts" constantly change too.
When m$ officially releases WM6 this forum will die back down to what it is 99% of the time. Then we will quietly begin taking apart the next generation of hardware and will start looking at the next generation of Windows Mobile.
The n00bs that we tolerated will drift away except those who can contribute. You will never find this on forums with zero n00b tolerance.
I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.
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I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.
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Or may be suing if don't get help????
LOL. I still at that. HEY! Where is the moooooooney?
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Or may be suing if don't get help????
LOL. I still at that. HEY! Where is the moooooooney?
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Hey, I know my rights! I'm an American! I'll sue you!
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Hey, I know my rights! I'm an American! I'll sue you!
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santas cachucas Batman... Holly hats Batman... We better find some Batymoney...lol
Good to see you here
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I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.
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In the strictest definition you are correct. I'm a half full glass kind of guy tho and I'm always thinking one will switch over. I'm sure that somewhere this has happened. More importantly, n00b bashing means that some newbies may be afraid to post and might just quietly slink away...
The great thing about the internet and the millions of subject based forums is that folks from all over the world can get together and share information on the subject of their choice. This free flow of information coupled with our fast paced lifestyle does lend to folks wanting to ask rather than search since they see it as the fastest way to get the information they seek. For the most part a gentle nudge in the right direction is all they need. The downside is that forums also provide a venue for those who lack knowledge to demonstrate their self perceived superiority anonymously. It's far easier and less costly to ignore a post that you think doesn't deserve a response. If you feel the need to reply you should respect the individuals who are providing the equipment, time, and bandwidth that makes the forum you are using possible. You do this by posting intelligent and informative responses.
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The great thing about the internet and the millions of subject based forums is that folks from all over the world can get together and share information on the subject of their choice. This free flow of information coupled with our fast paced lifestyle does lend to folks wanting to ask rather than search since they see it as the fastest way to get the information they seek. For the most part a gentle nudge in the right direction is all they need. The downside is that forums also provide a venue for those who lack knowledge to demonstrate their self perceived superiority anonymously. It's far easier and less costly to ignore a post that you think doesn't deserve a response. If you feel the need to reply you should respect the individuals who are providing the equipment, time, and bandwidth that makes the forum you are using possible. You do this by posting intelligent and informative responses.
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This couldnt be any more appropriate and accurate for this thread....
Hey all. Ever notice all these different devices we have here at xda. It's kinda hard to navigate sometimes when I'm looking for devices. Just a thought, maybe we should get them organized by manufacturer or something. It'd make browsing around the forums much easier and reduce a lot of cluster on the forums.
What do you think?
On my Inspire 4G
I think that's a great idea
Try using the search box in the top right corner, saves you all the time in the world.....
Hope that helps..........
Try using "compact view" on the homepage to sort them better
I think it would be better organized if it was more like AndroidForums.com
nice idea...
I agree with the compact view but it still leaves a lot of clutter among the list of devices. Now if it were sorted by the manufacturer it would make the initial forum page much smaller, maybe even only 10-15 sections. Or even for a little reorganization put the devices by the same maker all together instead of a mixed list. Cause the newest devices are at The bottom but are all still mixed among makers. It'd also make new members easier to navigate the forums when looking for their device.
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Not sure I understand you. From what I can see on the site, I can search a device by OS or Manufacturer. I have a yellow Drop down menu in the top right side of the site that splits everything by brand or OS.
Rageing you're saying the exact idea I was saying. Just how its sorted by os or mfg but if it was setup like that by default it makes a great first impression for new users and for fast easy searching among the forums
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Categorising them by Manufacturer would make a lot of sense.
This would also help distinguish general forums from the device specific ones.
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check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
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New to xda-developers? Check This Out!
check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
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I am not very active on this site mainly because my old phone was never given a forum here(Moto Backflip) but wanted to comment anyways because I hope to be more active now that I have a D2G. Anyways in regards to this issue at hand, I am sorry to say but really? I dont mean to sound like a smart.. but you really expect people to read that? Much less for new members to find it..
I think maybe what people mean when they say sorting things by device is like this:
Motorola: Category
-Flipout(forum)
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
-Droid 2
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
Then if you set the sub-forums not to set on the forum index, this shortens the forum index substantially making it much quicker and easier to find your device. Like I said I am just assuming on that, so if I am wrong, this would be my suggestion on the matter.
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TRusselo said:
New to xda-developers? Check This Out!
check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
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How so? If I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php and then scroll down, I will find HTC devices in-between samsung and motarola ones, etc... that is not what I call 'sectioned by manufacturer'
I am a new user, but this is not so confusing for me.
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I am not very active on this site mainly because my old phone was never given a forum here(Moto Backflip) but wanted to comment anyways because I hope to be more active now that I have a D2G. Anyways in regards to this issue at hand, I am sorry to say but really? I dont mean to sound like a smart.. but you really expect people to read that? Much less for new members to find it..
I think maybe what people mean when they say sorting things by device is like this:
Motorola: Category
-Flipout(forum)
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
-Droid 2
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
Then if you set the sub-forums not to set on the forum index, this shortens the forum index substantially making it much quicker and easier to find your device. Like I said I am just assuming on that, so if I am wrong, this would be my suggestion on the matter.
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How so? If I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php and then scroll down, I will find HTC devices in-between samsung and motarola ones, etc... that is not what I call 'sectioned by manufacturer'
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Go to the HOMEPAGE you told me to.
click the COMPACT VEIW at the top.
it was mentioned in my NEW USER GUIDE i told you to go to!
here is one page... look at the bottom wher it says HTC DEVICES.... that would be a list of all HTC devices...
Click "COMPACT VIEW" your wish is granted. ...errr was granted.... long ago...
or you can use the Quick forum jump... also shown below. try it sometime. its the big yellow button that says "Devices by OS
or Manufacutrer" pretty much the exact words you used!. Actually it is VVVV THERE. see it? the "V" arrows point to it!
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Guys..
Why so much of a hustle? I usually search indexes using ctrl+F or whatever is the search function for your browser. [sry, i didn't really read all the posts in the thread, maybe it doesn't even have to do with anything]
(still hunting the 10th post for that "10 posts limit")
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Rageing you're saying the exact idea I was saying. Just how its sorted by os or mfg but if it was setup like that by default it makes a great first impression for new users and for fast easy searching among the forums
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Hi Mourer09
Were you not asking whether it was possible to sort them that way? I was actually saying that they have done so with the drop down list at the top of the site
So how does one become a moderator? The reason I ask is that I am SO sick of reading the same stupid questions over and over and over (as are majority of the members here). This phone has a few talented DEVs, but as a whole the community for the E4GT is terrible. No one reads, no one searches, and frankly, some of the questions that people ask on here shows that they shouldn't even own a SMARTPHONE!
I remember how it used to be back in the day, as do some of you. If you weren't a DEV and were just here to use what was provided, you kept your damn mouth shut. The only time you spoke up is if you searched far and wide and exhausted all your other resources...then you asked your question and hoped the real DEVs on here would give you the time of day...and that was great! You actually had to LEARN something...
These days, and for some reason this phones community is the worst, the "I want it now" pigs overrun every freaking thread on the forum. It even makes searching impossible because your "results" just pop up the same stupid question being asked over and over.
Anyways, I could go on forever, but I only want to know one thing...how can I become a moderator and help clean some of this up so it is better moving forward?
Rule of thumb with any forum: if you have ask to become a mod, you're not going to be one. I'm relatively new here, and to flashing phones in general as the epic 4g ttouch is my first smartphone. So when you mention how any who isn't some sort of Dev should keep their mouth shut I can't help but take it personally. If you really did want to become a mod this wasn't a way to do it. Believe me I'm not trying to overstep boundaries, I know my place. But you're only coming off angry.
Can't be a mod? You can always do what the guy in the image is doing...although you'd drive the mods crazy.
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People asking the same questions over and over along with a sense of self entitlement aren't going anywhere. You just have to live with it.
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So how does one become a moderator? The reason I ask is that I am SO sick of reading the same stupid questions over and over and over (as are majority of the members here). This phone has a few talented DEVs, but as a whole the community for the E4GT is terrible. No one reads, no one searches, and frankly, some of the questions that people ask on here shows that they shouldn't even own a SMARTPHONE!
I remember how it used to be back in the day, as do some of you. If you weren't a DEV and were just here to use what was provided, you kept your damn mouth shut. The only time you spoke up is if you searched far and wide and exhausted all your other resources...then you asked your question and hoped the real DEVs on here would give you the time of day...and that was great! You actually had to LEARN something...
These days, and for some reason this phones community is the worst, the "I want it now" pigs overrun every freaking thread on the forum. It even makes searching impossible because your "results" just pop up the same stupid question being asked over and over.
Anyways, I could go on forever, but I only want to know one thing...how can I become a moderator and help clean some of this up so it is better moving forward?
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LOL:
Is this a joke, or:
Are you for real?
After reading this, I hope beyond all hope, that YOU never become a moderator on XDA.
Good lord, you already sound like some ficticious example of a power-hungry mod that abuses his power...
I can only (barely) imagine what you'd be like if they ever gave you any real power around here...
Let me guess: Jackboots?
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I hope the people replying here aren't the ones I'm referring to in my Ambien induced rant above. It was just meant to point out that there are a growing (and outnumbering) group of people that won't take the time to learn and be PROACTIVE about things that could break their phone. They are the ones that are REACTIVE and expect the world. Case in point: we STILL have people flashing the international 9100 ICS ROMS...STILL! I'm not saying we all need to get this elitist chip on our shoulders, but it takes everyone to clean this crap up. For the longest time I never knew why some people flamed the crap out of other members for asking questions....now I know.
I hope the people reading this that can read between the lines and see what I'm trying to do appreciate it. I also hope that those who take offense look in mirror...
If you can't point out flaws without trying to help fix, then please don't comment at all.
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I hope the people replying here aren't the ones I'm referring to in my Ambien induced rant above. It was just meant to point out that there are a growing (and outnumbering) group of people that won't take the time to learn and be PROACTIVE about things that could break their phone. They are the ones that are REACTIVE and expect the world. Case in point: we STILL have people flashing the international 9100 ICS ROMS...STILL! I'm not saying we all need to get this elitist chip on our shoulders, but it takes everyone to clean this crap up. For the longest time I never knew why some people flamed the crap out of other members for asking questions....now I know.
I hope the people reading this that can read between the lines and see what I'm trying to do appreciate it. I also hope that those who take offense look in mirror...
If you can't point out flaws without trying to help fix, then please don't comment at all.
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Actually I agree with you. People search and search less and made no attempt to understand at least the basic informations before rooting or customizing their phones. I spent a solid 12 hours googling and searching before deciding to root my phone.
But you are obviously not going to win this one. Forget asking people to search the forum before asking question. There is a two page thread on Epic 4g Touch General area about disabling update notification and people don't even bother to read the OP thoroughly before asking the question. They wonder why what they did did not work when it is clearly explained in the OP.
I kinda see what you mean, but I use the search more since they removed the Captcha....I really hated that. I think we should let people know about it...because that was the reason why I didn't use the search in the first place.
Oh...and also the search time limit
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You have to be understanding here .... Some people on here have been here since the hero and know how it was back then , but alot are totally new to smart phones and basically ignorant to how a tech forum like this is... They don't know to search and such ...they found this by google and have no clue how to go about getting help so they post in the wrong forums and such..this in turn causes existing members to be frustrated and not help like they should...in fact there should be more to do to become a member here and get posting privileges ...
This link can show a littlehttp://www.emarketer.com/blog/index.php/tag/how-many-mobile-phone-users-have-smartphones/
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However XDA is a wonderful community there is still some room for improvement. XDA is great, as so are 'most' of the people around here, but however it's greatness there is still
one thing that does sometimes annoy me, is its organisation..
Let's be honest some people don't know where they should start their thread of where to find stuff, on the other hand most people who do have those problems are mostly plain stupid or are to lazy to search.
Yet I believe, that a little re-organisation will be able to address this matter and makes our lives, as the lives of users, mods or developers a little easier.
Lucky for you guys, I am not the guy that just complains, without constructing or achieving a potential solution.
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Smoother, Faster, Clearer and Better
Introducing child-boards
I know it looks plain simple and you can believe I barely made any changes. BUT THAT IS THE KEY! That is my GOAL, keeping things as slim as possible. Still a child board can achieve an immense difference just only in your experience.
Imagine this simple user interface: Where you'll be able find to find a sub-board with ONLY ROM Releases or just everything related to it, so as for kernels.
Still I am perfectly aware that the ANDROID development goes beyond, ROM's and Kernels, YET these 2 elements in my opinion the main reason why people go to XDA, or they create kernels and ROM's or they want to flash them.
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No offense but isn't this a little weird, that so many people voted, where they'd best place their own thread?
Or is still someone able to tell, where I should fit this topic?
Child boards under my recommendation:
Separated Product Model Boards:
Even though people might find it lame, just know flashing the wrong firmware onto your phone, can brick your device,
accidents easily occur and even I noticed I accidently clicked onto the G development without even noticing it after 5 min and however the difference might look minor to some of you.
Why would you put 2 devices in the same area, knowing they require different systems, firmware and work on different hardware, meaning even though they are in the same range, THEY STILL DEFER
General Talk:
NewsThis community has a lot of potential users, that are motivated and willing to uncover the latest and hottest news for their phone or their device and I am fully aware that we do have XDA Tv.
But still I strongly believe this could be a very very useful sub-forum. Moderators or Forum Staff can sticky their posts to announce new rules or competitions
and only selected members will be able to post news concerning their galaxy s2 or their device, to decrease chances of any spam topics.
So why would we miss out on this potential, why wouldn't we publish a story that for example, AGPS, allows you to get a faster GPS lock or people invented a new script to conserve 50% more battery than usual,
does it really harm anyone, that one story wouldn't be that interesting, as this place could offer you, a pool of different stories that might catch your interest.
Nobody is forced to publish something, neither are you to read, you'll only have the Galaxy S2 knowledge library right at your disposal.
Android Developent:
Seperated ROM & Kernel BoardWouldn't it be way easier to find all your ROM releases in one place and ONLY them?
Would we even need updated indexes anymore, when this would all be clear and accessible in one single location,
would we even be bothered to posts polls as where should I put this thread as you might have already seen above?
Wouldn't this make your user experience more simpler finding in two clicks whatever you'd like?
I'd certainly vow for this!
ROM & Kernels Separated, everything else, in the android development thread (Applications, scripts, Tweaks, ...
Interactive Search Functions
MORE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO COMMENT OR ASK RIGHT AWAY
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
bitpushr said:
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
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You shouldn't' be thanking me, it's my privilege I can be part of this community.
I saw a lot of potential around here and I am not much of a scripter, neither am I able to cook mods or roms
But I just wanted to give something back in return
I am just a simple student from Belgium with some crazy ideas
Still I feel honored my contribution will be taken in consideration and if you just require my help
Or you want me to do something, don't even hesitate to ask
Yours sincerely, Intensity
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
The Archangel said:
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
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Even if you're time is short, you should be ashamed for not clicking the thank button
Haha just kidding, much appreciated
The thing I hate about forums is that when a topic is posted, it stays on track for the first few pages, but when you get to the 157th page, there's a conversation where one guy is wondering "Should I replace the ball joints on my Subaru?"
XDA is pretty good about moderating topics, but searching through pages and pages of text, hoping to find your answer that may or may not be in English, or have enough proper grammar to be sure you're not about to perform outta step with a certain procedure....It's daunting.
To me, the "Forum" needs to be brought outta the '70s when it was just a community bulletin board, and into the 21st century.
I have a proposition. A proposition to XDADevelopers. An idea. An idea that this forum could do that would put this forum on the forefront of other forums. An idea that, if implemented, other forums would look at this forum and want to do it the way XDADevelopers is doing it. A Forum is not just a website for discussion. It is literally a resource for people looking for information.
Proposition 1: Spelling and Grammar
If your gonna post in english, then you shud atleast make it readable. To put it properly: "If you're gonna post in English, the you should, at the very least, make your post readable". Too often, a six year old will post on how he was able to root his/her Galaxy Note II, and his/her instructions will read: "Just flash zip, the bot recover, then root, then turn off, done!" No one but that six year old can follow these instructions.
This site is a community of people who want to take control of the content on their phones, and make their phone as unique as the person who uses it. But, if everyone followed this six year old's instructions, we'd have a world full o' bricked phones.
Now, I realise that some of those who post are not six, but are adults from another country that are not used to typing proper English grammar. All, I would say to those people in that respect is that you may write in your post that you are not be responsible for any problems incurred in the risky business of tampering with a phone's operating system, but you could at least make the instructions clear enough that those who attempt to perform the same actions that you depict in your post will achieve the same result.
One idea on this is that if someone wants to post in English, and they know another forum member that has a better grasp on English, then that someone could PM that other member to help proofread the post before it is posted. That may seem like a big waste of time, but it would make this community more of a community when everyone is helping each other to help everyone else who will read this post.
Proposition 2: Front Page Updates and Editing
I have seen this being done on some forums (including this forum), but it doesn't appear to be mandatory. How would it be if it was mandatory?
A topic is posted. A procedure on rooting a device, let's say. The discussion gets going, and a few pages in, someone discovers an error in the post. The author makes a respective change. That's pretty much elementary.
Let's say, further into the discussion, someone encounters difficulty with a step in the procedure because one or more person's phone are different. The discussion continues until that difference is settled out. The front page should be edited to reflect this problem. Yes, every problem! But, in a structured way. An index on the front page. Structured in this way (or another): At the bottom of the front page, and index would appear:
Index
23 Jan 2016 If you have [this model phone], you may encounter [this condition]. Use [this procedure] to correct the condition.
The discussion of this condition starts here:
forum.xda-developers.com/blah/blah/balh and key notes on the conclusion can be found "here" and "here"
...and several similar entries afterwards. This kinda thing makes the forum post front page a searchable, informative page, with more to offer anyone who visits, and will benefit anyone. From the inexperienced, to the consummate professional.
Proposition 3: Multi-Threaded Threads for multiple discussions in a single post.
Too often, we'll read a thread, and someone will ask "I got [this model phone], and I'm having [this problem]", and we'll recognise this as the problem we are having too. But, when we go looking for a response to this reply, we sometimes have to go four, five, six pages (not replies, Pages!) forward to find a response. What's worse is that sometimes the response is "Go home, Newbie!". That help no one.
When I look through a list of topics for my model phone or condition, I shy away from posts that have more than 20 pages of replies. If each of those pages was a searchable thread from the original discussion, it may not be as daunting a task to search through the post to find the information I am looking for.
These are the only three ideas I can think of. If I think or more, I would probably update this page!
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Ok. Serious reply. :good:
Spelling and grammar. Members here are from all over the world, and have to post in English. Many of them are at Google translate or something similar's mercy. So, tolerance my friend. If you find something too hard to understand, you can always just move on and ignore it.
Front page edits and updates. Those are entirely up to the opening poster of the thread. They can update if they wish, but it's their choice. They would never be forced to by XDA staff or automation of some sort. And any means of enforcing your ideas here would be impossible on a site this massive.
And your last point, there is a search thread function. It's a mystery to many, but it exists and works. Honest!
But thank you for the suggestions. :highfive:
Darth said:
And your last point, there is a search thread function. It's a mystery to many, but it exists and works. Honest!
But thank you for the suggestions. :highfive:
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I think that depends on the day and if you say the proper magic words to get it to work correctly.
I actually like the idea (assuming I understood from the long story) of having a link forward to replies of a post. There are link backs; it would be cool if your post got a link forward to this one.
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Too Long Didnt Read?
or
Too Long Did Read ? ?
Here is how you replace ball joints on a subaru...
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Wow.
XDA is THE leading forum for Android development and hacking and has been for many years. Nothing needs to be done to make it the best, because it IS the best.
Nothing is perfect of course, but improvements are ongoing even though we may feel they can be slow sometimes.
'Nuff said.