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Anyone have problems receiving Virgin MMS on O2 orbit

Hi All,
I have a UK O2 XDA Orbit with an O2 Sim...
For some reason I don't seem to be able to receive MMS messages from Virgin on it.... The GPRS kicks in and it looks like its downloading and then stops.... within a couple of days I get a message to say it couldn't be downloaded and do I want to reject it.....
MMS from other mobile companies seem to get to me fine.... this is the first time I've had this problem...
I have tried sending to an O2 X2i and gets there no problem.... so I'm guessing its my phone... also texts from Virgin get through fine...
Anyone had anything similar..
Many Thanks in advance
Gaz

Hi all, just a bump really..... maybe try to rephrase slightly
Has anybody received MMS messages from a Virgin mobile on a O2 equiped XDA orbit successfully.
This could be down to the settings on the virgin phone, but this is probably unlikely as we can succesfully send MMS to another O2 phone...
Many thanks.
Gaz

I have the same problem using Vodafone.... Have changed GPRS settings, and it connects and LOOKS like it's transferring, however it doesnt actually send...
Paul

Receiving Tiny MMS pictures ??

got my touch pro 2 a few days ago, everything works fine apart from MMS, when receiving these they come through ok but are very tiny. Cant seem to enlarge them at all, the size of the file is around 6k which is far to small for an mms. anyone else seen this ?
if not will ring o2 in the morning and see if they are doing anything there end. never had this issue on my tytn II but have only just moved to o2 so might be that.
thanks for any help.

nobody else experiencing this ?, I have logged a support call with o2 to see if it is something there end. Very strange.

o2 helpful as ever, they wont assist as they dont support the handset.
There must be a setting somewhere in the registry where the phone is automatically downsizing these pictures as even if i send one to myself from the phone it sends at 224k but then receives at 6k ?
very annoying.
anybody ?

at present for anyone else that is on o2 with this phone and wants to receive full size mms pictures until o2 get there finger out and officially support the phone. I used the following settings from the htc touch, these settings need to be modified in the registry.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Arcsoft\ArcSoft MMS UA\Config\mm1\WspHeader]
Accept application/vnd.wap.mms-message,*/*
Accept-Charset us-ascii, utf-8, iso-10646-usc-2, ISO-8859-1, ISO-8859-2
Accept-Language en
User-Agent HTC_Touch_HD_T8282/arcsoft-mmsua-5.0.0.xx
x-wap-profile http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/HTC_Touch_HD_T8282-1.0.xml
this seems to work for me. now getting my grand daughter who has just been born at full resolution. much better than this tiny thumbnail size that I was receiving, she's small enough as it is.

My MMS wont send or receive on o2. Where do I change the settings?
What are they?
My data works fine and everything else!!
Thanks.
Stu.

If you have a custom ROM most will require a secondary CAB install for MMS provisioning. Check the thread of your custom ROM for MMS related information.

Tiny MMS Pictures on o2

Had this issue on windows mobile and now have the same problem on this device. When i get an mms they come through only a 1/5 the size of the screen. On windows there was a reg key that i can change, anyone know how to do it on this device?
Thanks
UPDATE
Now that the desire has been rooted, anybody know what settings need to be changed in order to correct the tiny mms pictures, o2 still have not got there finger out and sorted this issue out ??

I have found an app on the market place called handcent and isntalled this, looks like the iphone layout. there is an option to spoof user agent but when i do this i cannot send any mms's. Can receive them but still they are not fullsize although bigger than previous. will try another option and choose the iphone 3.0 useragent. Phones on charge at present as battery ran out after only half a days use. I was using it a lot as i was setting it up so cant really say if this is the norm yet.
Still dont think this is as nippy as my HD2 but then I had a custom rom on that so that helped loads from the stock rom. Again early days.

Im getting this issue.
Isthere any work around for it yet? I send/recieve alot of pics and hate that they are tiny.

the only solution i have found is for rooted devices so no good at present.

Ta. Will have to wait then !!!
Ive gone back to messaging + smspopup only losing ability to quick compose using search button.
Ta

It might me because O2 have not yet added the Desire to their approved database yet. Try again when O2 have released the Desire on their network at the end of this month. I'm also on O2 but I hardly ever use MMS.

Good shout. Makes sense. Ta for that.

norm2002 said:
It might me because O2 have not yet added the Desire to their approved database yet. Try again when O2 have released the Desire on their network at the end of this month. I'm also on O2 but I hardly ever use MMS.
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Ah, hang on, so how come the native messaging app shows the message in the correct size ?
For the same message, same picture sent or received, in the native app is large, but when i quit and go into Handcent, its small !!!

Handcent has just had an update and its still showing as tiny.
Anyone else got this issue ??

You cannot do anything to sort this, it is solely down to o2 to pull there finger out. Until they do we are stuck with it.
According to there site they will have the desire at the end of this month.

But i get large photos sent and received with the native MMS app, and have worked out that its because it converts it to a slideshow.
Spose i will wait til O2 get this as a phone and try after.
Ta

anyway to stop this slideshow on desire, can't seem to find anything to turn it off so I can just view the picture normally.

UPDATE
Now that the desire has been rooted, anybody know what settings need to be changed in order to correct the tiny mms pictures, o2 still have not got there finger out and sorted this issue out ??
(edited first post as well)

In handcent sms in Maximum MMS Size, change from default to 300KB.

Default is 300k.
I've tried all sides and none work. Need to wait tool o2 release the desire for themselves.

I have this problem with mine and i'm on orange. When the image is converted to be able to be sent, it shrinks it to about 16K, which is really pathetic. Anyone figured this out yet?

danprocter said:
I have this problem with mine and i'm on orange. When the image is converted to be able to be sent, it shrinks it to about 16K, which is really pathetic. Anyone figured this out yet?
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Are you using the native app or Handcent/chomp ??

Rooted mine and now using handcent, all working as it should, i used to get the same on o2. Not anymore though. Full size mms now.

Rooted mine and now using handcent, all working as it should, i used to get the same on o2. Not anymore though. Full size mms now.
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So can you post your settings?
I assume you are still on o2?
I can send large mms via the native app, and cant send anything if selecting one from the gallery, but can if using the camera straight from hand cent.

So can you post your settings?
I assume you are still on o2?
I can send large mms via the native app, and cant send anything if selecting one from the gallery, but can if using the camera straight from hand cent.
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I have the standard setup, so 2 accounts, one called "O2 MOBILE WEB" which only has the apn set to mobile.o2.co.uk nothing in proxy/port/server/mmsc etc. Only username and password set.
The other one is called O2 MMS Postpay, this has apn of wap.o2.co.uk, no proxy / no port, username o2wap / password, server not set, mmsc set to http://mmsc.mms.o2.co.uk:8002, proxy 193.113.200.195, mmsport 8080
The strange thing is that i CANNOT send mms messages with the stock messaging app. I can however receive them and they come in full size. In handcent i can send and receive mms messages fine. Not sure why this is.
I would prefer the stock application to do both but just cant work out why it doesnt send. tried so many different settings now but nothing works

MMS size issue - android or network

I have noticed that when I choose to send a photo as an MMS it gets re-sized to within an inch of its life. A typical 900kb photo gets re-sized to 10kb or 15kb. Terrible quality. My old N82 phone used to send the photo at close to 300kb limit so you got a very good quality MMS.
I have had a look around the forums and it seems there are varying explanations but no conclusive judgments on why this is?
1. It is caused by the Network not recognizing the phone. (althought ppl have reported this on T-mobile too)
2. It is android sendnig all MMS as a "slide show" instead of just attaching the image.
Which is correct, or is it something else? Can it be worked around to send good quality 250kb - 300kb pic attachments.

I would also like to know this, I've had it with the last few HTC phones on Android.
I'm on o2, which haven't supported any of the latest phones, so could be the network I presume. I always got told it was the network before when I raised this issue.

one possible explanation from another user on a different forum stated
Basically what happens when you send a MMS is that is goes to your operators MMSCentre and while its there it reads in the User Agent Profile of your phone so it can determine what size of the picture you sent and it will resize it to the recipients phone screen size (as it may be a different size)
Now heres where the problem lies (i think)
If your operator dont have the User Agent profile for your phone loaded into the MMSCentre it will send the picture to the recipients as the default (small size)-->so long story short you have to wait for O2 to update your phone in the database in the MMSC.
I don't think this is right though. My phone resizes/compressed the message before I even hit send, so I don't believe its the network at all. I think its android using this "slide show" crap instead of just resizing the picture to under 300kb and leaving it at 250kb etc. Not compressing it to 10kb.
If this IS an android problem surely all HTC Hero users would have reported it, and all of their MMS (sent or received) would have been under 20kb? Major flaw if thats the case? Anyone know more?

I've just got a hold of a HTC Hero to try the same experiment on.
I go to photo album, choose to share a photo as a message.
The HTC hero resizes to 45kb not 10kb, and it does not insert the photo as an image in a slideshow, it just attaches it as an image. Just like my old Nokia N82 did. No slideshow crap.
I went through all of the settings and cannot see the difference that would cause his to be an attached image and mine to be inserted in this slideshow format. Possibly coming from the network? I'm unsure. Slideshow format is rubbish though. I just want to send the larger image like the Hero does. argh....

Slight thread change but...
Can Anybody who has O2 on simfree let me know the MMS settings I cant seem to send MMS picture messages. Ive seen that link on the O2 website, but I cant seem to get it working. Ive added in an additional APN, and As O2 dont support it yet they cant help me.
I have installed Handcent, but cant send from either handcent or HTC messaging.
Thanks in advance.
Bloke

It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.

Zappza said:
It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Thats great Zappza. Conclusive.
Hopefully all networks that plan to sell the Desire will have support soon. Cheers

Zappza said:
It's the operator. ...The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.

no its not the network,
The max mms size is 300Kb as defined in the sms/mms settings in the default sms handler in android

handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway

quicksite said:
Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.
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there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.

JaykaySLO said:
there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.
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yes, you can share video using mobile internet or wifi. Just make sure your logged into your youtube account on the phone. No MMS required.

TieT said:
handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway
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No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"

I have the same thing on the HD2 and Desire, both using Vodafone uk.
The HD2 used to work just fine up until a few weeks ago, Vodafone could not answer why it was happening, but I reckon its a network issue, or the Rom upgrade on the HD2 was the culprit.
When my HD2 comes back from HTC tomorrow, ill stick the old 1.43 Rom back on, and see if it solves it...

thanks pastypacker, let us know how you get on, I'll keep an eye on the thread.

mcgon1979 said:
No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"
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sorry bro, misunderstood
in that case, yes i think its your provider.

It's all good. hopefully the network will make the appropriate changes when they start selling the phone here shortly.

Small MMS pictures

Hi!
I converted from Desire HD to One X. All MMS message I recieve are really small. It's annoying, cause it's almost impossible to see it properly..
Does anyone have a fix? I download the MMS with handcent. MMS i send to people are bigger than the ones i recieve.
If I send an MMS to myself, it is 200 kb when sent. When i recieve it it is only 25 kb..

im also experiancing this. is there a flashable fix?
thanks in advance

Im having the exact same issue - is everyone else?
What is the cause and is there a way to negate this annoyance?

how many of you are on O2? (or tesco, giffgaff etc who all use o2). They are notorious for shrinking the MMS pictures.
Bugger all you can do about it as far as i know.

Nope not moi - Im on Vodafone and didnt have this problem on my Samsung i9000 which was on the same network.
Very odd and frustrating.