Which version of Manila is this? Help needed - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Dear All,
I just installed the 6.5 upgrade available in Singpaore and I dont get to see the Manila version in the Settings Tab as it was in 6.1. When I go to Today settings, the items list says 'HTC Sense' not Touch Flo.
So is it Manila 2.1 or which version is this? I want to have the transparent weather clock and trying to search a compatible one
ROM: 1.86.707.4(67102) WWE
Radio: 4.49.25.17.
Thanks in advance for the help.

Normally there is an "About" entry at the bottom of the TF3D Settings tab -- is this what you're saying is now missing?
I have the AT&T Tilt 2 w/ stock ROM, i.e. WM 6.5, and the About is on the TF3D settings tab.

Same here, only Dutch ;-)
Hi all, I also did an update to WM 6.5, only the Dutch one (from T-mobile).
I also have Sense instead of TF3D now and would like to see the weather on my Today screen.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them
ROM 1.85.114.1 (65933) NLD
Radio 4.49.25.05
Would we be able to use this for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556484 ?

I believe it is Sense 2.1 that you have. Then there is Sense 2.5 that HTC is shipping with their Leo.
Sense is the new name for TouchFLO.

Weather on Today with Seense 2.1?
Seems possible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4887991
But how?

Lord_BlackAdder said:
I believe it is Sense 2.1 that you have. Then there is Sense 2.5 that HTC is shipping with their Leo.
Sense is the new name for TouchFLO.
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Thank you. I too think it is 2.1, but I dont see it in the About in the Setting tab and thats the reason I checked. But now I have only the copyright information which doesnt say the version of the Manila...so bad.
The reason is I see quite a few good mods available with 2.5 and wanted to check if it is suitable for my ROM...it seems I should use one of the cooked ROMs

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The new TF3D on my windows 6.1

Hi ive been searching the forums trying 2 find the new touchflo 3d to install on my my blackstone and i cant find it i wonder if any would could point me in the right direction so i can install the new 2.5 touchflo on my devices
cheers callum
TouchFLo 2.5 isn't ready for actual use yet. You'll have to wait a little while longer until a lot of bugs are worked out. Just keep an eye on the ROMZ section as I'm sure it will pop up soon enough. There is a rom out right now that has TouchFLo 2.5 in it but GSM is crippled so you cannot send text messages as well as some other problems. There is a link in this thread to a cooked ROM with touchflo 2.5 if you want to try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530584&page=3
Thanks for the replay i want the same touchflo version on miris 6.5 rom which is the same as the touch diamond 2 is that version availble 2 install on 6.1
cheers callum
The most up to date version of manila that I have seen cooked into roms is TouchFLo v2.1, but I have not seen this available as a cab. Then again, I never look for cab versions of TouchFlo. I personally use Dutty's 3.9XT Turbo rom. It is WM6.1 and is available with manila V2.1. Great rom, fast, and stable. Sorry I can't tell you where to find a .cab file for touchflo v2.1 though.
Thanks for your reply il look for a .cab. i flashed miris 6.5 which had manila but i found that if made the camera a lot pixely maybe it was just me so i flash back to the htc wm6.1 im a bit gutted that the htc touch hd is not getting the 6.5 upgrade and was thinking of selling a getting a diamond 2
cheers callum
Manilla Cab
Really not sure u can find one with that, also do you know how big a
cab file with that would be? will take 1hour to install it!
but good luck and hope u find what u looking for..
Obalia73
No CAB for Manilla 2.0 or 2.1. Never has been, probably never will be. Only ever seen it cooked into the ROM.

Will Windows 6.5 also update touchflo?

I've been looking around for more info on this, but haven't found much.
So, will the free upgrade for Windows 6.5 on the TP2 include the new touchflo 2.5 that we've seen on some ROMS lately? I haven't had a chance to try any of them out since I'm on Telus CDMA version, so I'm still pretty excited if it will indeed update touchflo as well.
Anyone know?
they claim there will be an updated touchflo im not sure if its the leo version but there will be some type of update to it. either way i never use stock roms there usually a waste.
it's probably the same as the htc sense roms in the ROM section in the rhodium forum. So only the weather feature changed.
Yeah according to one of the vodafone touch diamond 2 roms just released over in Germany, the new update just has the updated version of touch flo 2.1 . I doubt 2.5 will ever be made for the touch pro 2, it's far to laggy (espeacially landscape for the music and picture tabs) and hence requires way more processing power than our super small 528mhz
well that's dissappointing. i really wanted those new internet, contact and twitter tabs. not that excited about 6.5 anymore
J0NNYBRAV0 said:
well that's dissappointing. i really wanted those new internet, contact and twitter tabs. not that excited about 6.5 anymore
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Just install a cooked ROM and you can have it.
Not easy if u have a CDMA phone.
check out ppcgeeks for the custom CDMA roms...
XDA is great, but mostly GSM.

does the stock Rhodium wm6.5 have sense?

Greetings,
As all of us know that HTC officially releases WM6.5 to the Rhodium, .... even the new Touch Pro2 comes pre-loaded with WM6.5 instead of WM6.1.
My question is, does this version (HTC Stock WM6.5) have Sense (with the weather animation above the clock and colored icons), or the plain TouchFlo3D (Bi-Color icons and no weather animation on the clock)
I am quite sure they would use the same WM 6.5 ROM as is on their website, so I'm 99.9% sure it will have Sense 2.1. If not it won't take more than a couple mins downloading it and flashing before setting up your new TP2.
Again, I really can't see why they wouldn't include Sense 2.1 in it. It wouldn't make any.
Sense, yeah. Gaw, I'm hilarious. Happy new year!
irkan said:
Greetings,
As all of us know that HTC officially releases WM6.5 to the Rhodium, .... even the new Touch Pro2 comes pre-loaded with WM6.5 instead of WM6.1.
My question is, does this version (HTC Stock WM6.5) have Sense (with the weather animation above the clock and colored icons), or the plain TouchFlo3D (Bi-Color icons and no weather animation on the clock)
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Hi irkan,
Installed HTC 6.5 AU version on my T7381 (via hard spl) and yes it does have Sense, was surprised as only thought cooked roms had ported from leo... so weather is on home screen and icons are coloured .... also Microsoft Voice command works over bluetooth headset which did not on 6.1
palah said:
Hi irkan,
Installed HTC 6.5 AU version on my T7381 (via hard spl) and yes it does have Sense, was surprised as only thought cooked roms had ported from leo... so weather is on home screen and icons are coloured .... also Microsoft Voice command works over bluetooth headset which did not on 6.1
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Really? Great news, i too thought that official sense comes only to the HD2. so i assume the landscape mode of the TP2 sense is officially supported and works flawlessly, thanx!
It is Sense 2.1, which a bit more limited compared to the Sense 2.5 from the Leo.
irkan said:
Really? Great news, i too thought that official sense comes only to the HD2. so i assume the landscape mode of the TP2 sense is officially supported and works flawlessly, thanx!
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yes landscape works on all tabs plus IE & Opera that is all tried so far
ridolfo said:
It is Sense 2.1, which a bit more limited compared to the Sense 2.5 from the Leo.
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do not know version but 2.5 is from Leo (with landscape issues todate) so would say yes it is 2.1 ...
I could see there's some confusion.
Sense2.1 isn't from the Leo (HD2). That's why there's landscape support (landscape support was always present in Sense 2.1). It's just a small upgrade from TouchFlo3D (Manila 2.0); it upgrades to Sense 2.1 (aka Manila 2.1).
As of now, Sense 2.5 is still *officially* known to run only on the HD2. And, Sense 2.5 now has official HTC landscape support; however, 3 tabs are still not fully supported.
*And, I'm sure the stock WWE Rhodium with WM6.5 will have Sense 2.1.
Might be out of topic here but does anyone know how to activate the weather background like in sense 2.5? or is it even possible yet?
Been searching but couldnt find any links to it. Yesterday i saw someone on youtube posted up a video of official TP2 6.5 ROM with the weather background and i thought it was availale but it wasn't. Couldnt find the video again too
mr_sheen said:
Might be out of topic here but does anyone know how to activate the weather background like in sense 2.5? or is it even possible yet?
Been searching but couldnt find any links to it. Yesterday i saw someone on youtube posted up a video of official TP2 6.5 ROM with the weather background and i thought it was availale but it wasn't. Couldnt find the video again too
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I remember in the old EnergyROMs (Manila2.1), I went to Settings Tab > Personalize > Home Wallpaper > when it asked me "Set default?", I said yes.
I think that was cooked in by NRG, though.
sumflipnol said:
I remember in the old EnergyROMs (Manila2.1), I went to Settings Tab > Personalize > Home Wallpaper > when it asked me "Set default?", I said yes.
I think that was cooked in by NRG, though.
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yea, i just upgraded mine from the official 6.1 to the official 6.5.
in mine it's only settings tab > Wallpaper > and after i changed it, then it will ask whether i would like to change it back to default > Yes.
But its only dark background in the home screen, i dont see any animated wallpaper thing. So is it not included on the official 6.5 rom?
I have the TP2 bought in Saudi Arabia. I recently Hard-SPl it and thus was able to install the Hong Kong version of Win6.5, 1.86.721.4(67102) WWE. And it does have the weather animation on the home page. How can i find out the Sense version? By the way it works in the landscape mode too.
my apology...it does have the weather background. Weird,it didn't showed when i tried it earlier.
Oh and while im at it, this is the first time i use the 6.5 over the 6.1 and my impression is that it is......slow. The ram usage is ridiculous too, up to 70% at idle after caching the whole thing? the 6.1 rom onlywent as far as 60% i think after heavy use + 6.1 is a lot snappier too.
i'll play around with this for a week before rolling back to 6.1 i guess
azuka said:
I have the TP2 bought in Saudi Arabia. I recently Hard-SPl it and thus was able to install the Hong Kong version of Win6.5, 1.86.721.4(67102) WWE. And it does have the weather animation on the home page. How can i find out the Sense version? By the way it works in the landscape mode too.
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yeah there hasnt been an official WM6.5 release for TP2 in the middle east, i contacted HTC they said it should be in the first months of 2010.
what are your experience with the original WM6.5 (other than mr_sheen). is it also slow?
How about landscape support in Album while viewing opened photos on Rhodium. Is that working?
irkan said:
yeah there hasnt been an official WM6.5 release for TP2 in the middle east, i contacted HTC they said it should be in the first months of 2010.
what are your experience with the original WM6.5 (other than mr_sheen). is it also slow?
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I am in Dubai, i emailed HTC Support long time back(twice) but no response, and for their Hotline toll fre number , i held it up for more than 17 minutes, and it kept me on hold/waiting.....so dont know how to contact them...
if they are releasing official ROM 6.5 in this month, i will wait...
lets see...if you find it out that it has been released, plz PM me, viz....i will PM you..
just a quick update after i use the 6.5 ROM for a day:
a. With the No push internet tweak the starting RAM is 47% (almost same as 6.1) but then it climbs up again maxing at 72-74% (it stays at 64% for a while but eventually goes up again) after day do day heavy use (sms, phone, internet etc).
b. The opera browser seems to be a lot slower in scrolling. It's not as smooth as in 6.1. No problem in speed and rendering of the page though, its just not smooth. Thats all
c. In 6.1 when i set my device to vibrate sometimes it doesn't vibrate when message comes, it does now, which is a good thing.
d. Haven't tried the GPS as im up to my neck with college work. I'll do it soon though.
e. Overall, its a lot brighter and colourful than the 6.1 package but the 6.1 is a lot snappier in the TouchFlo 3D and the overall windows use.
Personally, i can't stand the RAM usage though, but im just in love with the weather background. I like it. If only i could drop the RAM up to 60% on idle then i'd be a happy man
oh and i read something about disabling network tethering thing to make the RAM a lot less on startup, whereabout is that? i cant seems to find the thread. It's not on sticky either
irkan said:
yeah there hasnt been an official WM6.5 release for TP2 in the middle east, i contacted HTC they said it should be in the first months of 2010.
what are your experience with the original WM6.5 (other than mr_sheen). is it also slow?
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Actually my experience so far has been wonderful. Its not slow. Note though after i hard-spl(ed) i installed the Hong Kong version of Wm6.5. Its not slow. Right now i have my Jabra HALO bluetooth connected to it. Its being a pleasant experience thus far.
I communicated severally with HTC on the release of the Middle East version and after i got tired of waiting i just went the route i took. And so far so good. When HTC finally decides to release the Middle East version i will simply de-install the Hard-Spl and install the middle east version.
azuka said:
Actually my experience so far has been wonderful. Its not slow. Note though after i hard-spl(ed) i installed the Hong Kong version of Wm6.5. Its not slow. Right now i have my Jabra HALO bluetooth connected to it. Its being a pleasant experience thus far.
I communicated severally with HTC on the release of the Middle East version and after i got tired of waiting i just went the route i took. And so far so good. When HTC finally decides to release the Middle East version i will simply de-install the Hard-Spl and install the middle east version.
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You installed the official version for HTC right? or is it a cooked one? if it is official than i dont see why other official versions are slow, the only difference between them is the language (i suppose).
and i did not know that you need hard-SPL to install official HTC ROMs
I have a few questions about Sense, Win 6.5 & 6.1.
I feel quite n00bish, since i had the Kaiser(Tilt 1) for two years & even flashed a custom ROM, but I am looking for some insight into what 'Sense' is, and what does it get you, and does my stock ATT ROM that I have, have it?
I just got the handset, so I assumed it was WIN 6.5, no?
Do I need to flash a custom ROM (Is it advised, since I am happy with the stock ATT rom <for now>?) to get the weather on the clock?
If these are questions I should have read already, please direct me to those threads. But honestly, I am on XDA daily, and I have not come up with the answers.
Thanks!

Whts the difference in these 3

whts the difference between sense,manila, & touch flow 3d
sorry if this question is stupid,
The difference between Sense and Manilla are nothing, they are both the same. TF3D is like Sense but its a older software developed in the OEM Windows Mobilw 6.1. Most of Windows 6.5 are Sense 2.1. Hope it helps.
thn what is tf3d?
makak8889 said:
thn what is tf3d?
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"Manila" is the code name HTC has been using for it's shell interface for a while now. The first versions of Manila were referred to as TF3D (TouchFLO3D), up through TF3D 2.1. Then, the next upgrade to Manila was called "Sense", and was intended to be somewhat standardized across WM and Android.
There's a few stock ROM's, and a couple of custom ones, that have WM 6.1 and TF3D with it...but all carriers now have an upgrade to 6.5 and at least Sense 2.1, and there's tons of custom ROMs with those and higher versions.

TP2 T-Mobile upgrade to 6.5 question

HTC TP2 T-Mobile upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 at www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade will upgrade to which radio and which Sense or TouchFlo.
HTC TP2
T-Mobile
WM 6.1 Prof
TF 3.0
Radio 3.45.25.14 / Stock
Stock ROM
thebrenda said:
HTC TP2 T-Mobile upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 at www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade will upgrade to which radio and which Sense or TouchFlo.
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it will update you to the .57 radio (the one you asked about in the other thread), and winmo 6.5 and sense 2.1 (you have TF3D 2.1 right now). I noticed a improvement with that radio when I did the upgrade, not huge but noticible...connection stability got better, battery life stayed about the same.
Setting -> System -> TouchFLO -> About
It says "TouchFLO for Pocket PC Version 3.0 (Build 1914.3222).
Where would I see 2.1?
thebrenda said:
Setting -> System -> TouchFLO -> About
It says "TouchFLO for Pocket PC Version 3.0 (Build 1914.3222).
Where would I see 2.1?
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I don't recall exactly where on there (if anywhere) you'll actually see "2.1" listed, but that is the last version of TF3D produced before HTC switched it all to sense, and it's the only version that shipped with T-Mobile's WM 6.1
cookie's for TP2?
i no longer have a TP2, but have related question:
is there a version of Cookie's Home Tab for sense2.1 on the TP2? or any equivalent cabs that would add functionality and quicklinks to the home tab? preferably any additions that does not involve cooked roms?
atlaswing said:
i no longer have a TP2, but have related question:
is there a version of Cookie's Home Tab for sense2.1 on the TP2? or any equivalent cabs that would add functionality and quicklinks to the home tab? preferably any additions that does not involve cooked roms?
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No, that program requires Sense 2.5.
If you don't have a TP2, why do you ask? Also, what are you using now?
stevedebi said:
No, that program requires Sense 2.5.
If you don't have a TP2, why do you ask? Also, what are you using now?
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Currently using epix and HD2.
Why did i ask? I was going to update the rom for a friend's tp2, but since both versions had tf3d2.1, decided it was not worth it. Besides, the sense2.5 cab at 80MB is too much for the tp2, so not going that route. And no way am I flashing a custom rom on somebody else's phone.
back on topic, if a current tp2 owner is satisfied with the radio and is not using tf3d, the is really no point in updating to wm6.5.
I am doing it in hopes of getting a better radio.

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