Hello guys,
As you can see, I am a noob in Rhodium but have been flashing since Magician, Tytn ,Tytn II.
So I know what to ask before posting, so please do not bash me as I am a noob with Rhodium and never had this Warning Come before in previous Phones.
Warning:
This package is not intended for your device type!!
High chance of bricking!! Existing Now!!
I bought the phone SIM UNLOCKED as I am using another network SIM on it.
I get the warning when trying to Flash automatically.
Now my question is, Should I go manual as the warning says do not attempt Manual UNLESS Another warning comes. Nothing in the Noob section talks about this particular warning.
If anyone could lead me to the right path, it would be highly appreciated
Hope you guys welcome me aboard and start multi flashing as I did on my previous phones
What model of Rhodium do you have? Under the battery, there should be barcodes and RHODxxx, where xxx is a number like 100, 300, etc. For example, my Tilt2 is a RHOD300. See, you might have a GSM/CDMA hybrid device, which needs a different HardSPL (which is in development). The model number will allow you to know if it's GSM or GSM/CDMA. If your device is GSM, it still gives a warning, and you've searched for others with this problem, you should post in the HardSPL unlocker thread.
mine is a RHOD500.
Help me, what should I do.
I see We ve both followed the same path. Kaiser than Rhodium
Yeah, seems like quite a few Kaiser owners were waiting for a better upgrade than the Raphael, and went with the Rhodium.
Anyway, back on topic. You have a RHOD500, which is a GSM/CDMA hybrid device. Unfortunately, there is currently no HardSPL for the RHOD400 or RHOD500 (only the exclusively GSM Rhodiums have HardSPL). However, you can rest assured that cmonex and Olipro are working on it.
That is sad as I was really looking forward to turn this Rhodium upside down.
Coz i know it has high potentials.
BTW, wht is the difference between rhod100,300,500,etc... Why the different ones? Were there flaws that were corrected everytime?
Oh well, back to kaiser forum and pimping it out with Stylez
Cant wait to get here and start flashing and helping out with the testing
The difference in model numbers reflects changes in hardware (AFAIK). For example, the the RHOD100 is the European GSM version from HTC, with the front camera, but the RHOD300 is the AT&T Tilt2 without the front camera (it also contains a slightly different chipset). The RHOD400 & RHOD500 are both GSM/CDMA devices, and as such have different chipsets than the GSM only versions. If you remember that the Kaiser had models KAIS100, KAIS110, and KAIS100 (depending on the amount of cameras), it's pretty much the same thing here.
Also has to do with Radio Chipset. The T-Mobile GSM Only Rhodium is different than the AT&T GSM Rhodium. They have different 3G hardware to handle the different 3G bands used. This is also why the European one has a different Model #. They have different 3G bands as well. T-Mobile is the RHOD210. Also, if you go to HTC's site & check, you'll see each one has a different Qualcomm MSM 7K chipset listed.
AT&T has 7201a
Verizon & Sprint have 7600
T-Mobile & European have 7200a
Thank you guys. I appreciate your help
A few more questions if you guys dont mind
1- When I had the kaiser, i used to flash different radios(kaiser,polaris,neon,niki) in order to get MY desired radio(GPS,batterylife,etc..). Will I be able to do that with my RHOD500?
2-Regarding also waiting for a HARDSPL(thank you Olinex and Olipro), will I have to wait for a better release in the future? (i.e: Production cars, people dont always buy the FIRST fleet of cars as they still have flaws, so they wait for the 2nd and 3rd production fleet where the company would have fixed the 1st release flaws)
I am not talking about roms as I know thats the case, but close enough since we had 3.29,3.34,etc..for Kaiser.Which will I have to flash?
Will I have to do that?
3-I bought my Rhodium Unlocked(since I am using another company), will I still have to get security/sim Unlocker in order to flash different radios?
Thank you guys for welcoming me over here
I'm not sure about that. Since those devices have GSM/CDMA capabilities, they might use different radios than GSM devices (I don't know), but I'm not sure if anyone other than cmonex and Olipro could answer that.
No, there really isn't a reason to wait. It's extremely unlikely that any unforseen consequences would occur since they have teams of people testing HSPL long before release, to ensure that it's okay to release to the general public.
You do not need to security unlock to flash radios. You DO need to security unlock to flash radios from other devices (such as the Topaz). However, this brings me back to your first question, which as I have already said, I do not know the answer to. Therefore, I think you'll need to wait and see (though HardSPL for CDMA devices should be out very soon from what I hear)
Appreciate your answers Dave .
Thanks for helping me out.
I do hope they get the HARDSPL soon as I am dying to start working on my RHODIUM.
I do want to ask the questions to cmonex and Olipro, but I am sure they are quite busy. Also I doubt they will answer my questions as they are busy and usualy, most busy people just tell me read the FAQ, which sometimes doesnt have the answer to my question.
BTW, have u tried STYLEZ Black, V3. Trust me, you ll luv it.FLAWLESS
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Appreciate your answers Dave .
Thanks for helping me out.
I do hope they get the HARDSPL soon as I am dying to start working on my RHODIUM.
I do want to ask the questions to cmonex and Olipro, but I am sure they are quite busy. Also I doubt they will answer my questions as they are busy and usualy, most busy people just tell me read the FAQ, which sometimes doesnt have the answer to my question.
BTW, have u tried STYLEZ Black, V3. Trust me, you ll luv it.FLAWLESS
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Sure, happy to help
As I've said, HSPL should be ready very soon. CDMA HardSPL has already been finished, but cmonex was busy IRL and she also has to work out mirrors and the licensing server (or something like that). And when the Security/SIM/CID unlocker is ready, I'm sure that Olipro or cmonex (whoever posts it) will say what radios you can flash, etc.
Thx for the explination. Appreciate it
I am watting anctiously to start flashingm y RHOD500
Hey guys. Now I have a very good question.
In all my previous HTCs, I used to install NeoS2007 OpenVG and Chainfire's GFXBoost which seemed to improve Significantly the proformance and graphics.
Should i also install them on my rhodium?
When I used the NeoS2007 driverpack 3 on EnergyROM "Leo", I actually got worse 3D performance, and it seemed slower than before. GfxBoost didn't really have a noticable effect, IMO. However, you should test them on whatever ROM you have, since the overall effect may be different in your particular setup.
The thing is, I have the RHOD500, no HARDSPL YET. I just wanted to know in advance of the effect so that when the time comes to flash, ill get everything done by the first flash.
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The thing is, I have the RHOD500, no HARDSPL YET.
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Are you sure about that?
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
I think I just wet myself.
THANK YOU soooooooooo much daveeeee
Or right here on the site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660
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OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
Hi,
All I do on my spv m3100 is download the version that i want (schapps, pdaviet etc), connect my spv to the pc and sync it (backing up any crucial data) and then double click the ruu wrapper - the program then asks you if you want to auto detect which version of bootloader you want to use which on mine it is usually hard spl, then the program takes over and hey prsto 5 minutes later I'm loading my programs back onto my newly flashed spv ! I have found that this is the best way for me - the mods will be able to give more info but I took the plunge 20 months ago and must have flashed my device with a new rom about once a week!
Take Care,
Seriously
I'm seriously wondering if they can incorporate a noob rule called the don't open new threads without searching RULE . that would seriously help!
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OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
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Hey bro, if you have the oli pro spl on your device then loading a origenal rom with spl integrated is not a good idea. Look for the official wm6 rom only without spl, radio or extended. Here is a link to the official rom without radio, spl or extended. http://rapidshare.com/files/63200881/RUU_signed.nbh You will also need the ruuwrapper.exe file to install this rom on your hermes wich you can find in any custom rom here on xda under the hermes thread. Oh dont mind these neigh sayers bashing the noobs, some ppl here are still nice enough to help you and dont think they are the flashing gods.
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
It's sounds like you've used Pof's unlocker, is that why you have HardSPL 1.40?
There should be no reason why you can't update it to HardSPL 2.10. I can't remember if 1.40 has the same features when it doesn't allow itself to be overwritten (and can't be arsed to check as that's your job.
It's as Scousemartin states plus you need to do a little more reading but if you want to minimise bricking your phone use a MicrsoSD card, you should be fine doing it that way and 1.40 but try to install 2.10.
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@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
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Point accepted!! Sorry, it just peeves me off.. Guess i need to find some other way to vent my frustrations then adding to the frustrations of others..
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
You can flash hard spl via the sd card method. Its posted on the "hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" thread. Page 116. All links to softwares needed as well as instructions there.
Cheers...
You can also use SSPL which also allows you to flash anything. You just execute from SD card.
NP Revrob, no angst here with anyone. I was replying to what was said but not really at the person who made the comment but more just in general really. It can be frustrating for both senior members and newbies alike. I just like to always get folks working/talking with a positive aspect to things as there is more than enough things to bring us down in this day and age.
"it's all good"
Dude
Dalork said:
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
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Dude, I agree with you totally! don't worry about it, I really appreciate your words.. I've had a rough couple days and totally took it out on a noob! Sorry and Peace out man!
revrob said:
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
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It aint you that caused it man, I'm the harborer of frustrations don't worry about it, you asked a valid question and I'm the one that rained on the parade!! Take it easy and good luck
And on your question, I've had good luck with flashing from SD card, Check the wiki in my first link for flashing from your SD card and give it a go!
Joshkoss,
hey no biggie and certainly no need for sorries either, like I said it wasn't really intended to be directed at you personally just was rasing a point of my own opinion. On the other hand I'm sorry to hear things haven't been good for you. I do hope that whatever is giving or gave you a rough time is either sorted out or start to improve for you as quick as possible. Cheer up and don't let things bring you down my friend, life is to be lived and enjoyed. lol I must sound so weird but hey I like to wish everyone well. SMILE
Don't ask me how or why, but I downloaded HardSPL v7 from a different mirror to the one I had been using previously (and I'm sorry I can't remember which one - I've been doing much downloading of files yesterday and today!), and flashed it on Windows XP, and it worked!!! - so that is now safely installed as well.
Now to upgrade the Radio ROM .......
Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Excellent advice... which is why I strongly recommend always using a MicroSD card. I have seen too many people brick there phones and not have HardSPL on either. With the MicroSD card it's virtually impossible to cause a "break" in the upgrade procedure, whereas using USB/Activesynce it is all too easy to cause or have one.
Even if you do have HardSPL it is a much faster process than using the USB cable and saves you the hassle of finding out how to unbrick your phone with HardSPL installed on it.
When it happens bricking your phone is the worst feeling in the world, but thankfully it's becoming less and less common!
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.
well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.
You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know
GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!
Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!
Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
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i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.
I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....
Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!
Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...
Thank you for this great forum. I followed the instructions on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361144 without bricking my phone.
Now all I need is the ROM for Viva (North America or Carribbean). Where can I find this? Thanks,
WMT
Any toasted Sprint ROM's for Vogue?
Hi again.
Although Viva touch shows up as CDMA on some sites, it would appear that it is really only GSM (also known as Opal). Sorry for the bad post above.
I have tried the Bell ROM (RUU_Vogue_4350_BM_WWE_3.08.666.1_Radio3.42.50_Ship.exe) and it is much slower than the Sprint version (RUU_PPST_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_3.03.651.4_2_Radio_3.42.30_AM_NV_2.04_Ship.exe). Sprint, however has a lot of junk in it that I don't want or need. I have tried to understand some of the posts concerning cooked ROM's, but it is like I am coming in halfway through a conversation (my lack of experience, I suppose).
Does anyone have, or can they link me to, a reliable Sprint version (or non-partisan version since I will be programming it to Viva eventually anyway) that will work on the MP6900SP (Vogue CDMA)?
Also, could someone please explain to me why, when I am looking for Vogue CDMA ROM on the search, I see "Vogue, Vogue, Vogue upgrading etc." or "Shift accessories, Raphael, Raphael, Raphael CDMA, Raphael ROM development, Raphael software, Raphael accessories, Rose" all over? It is very annoying because these posts have NOTHING to do with the search criteria and make finding the exact information I want nearly impossible.
Thanks to all,
WMT
WMT said:
Hi again.
Although Viva touch shows up as CDMA on some sites, it would appear that it is really only GSM (also known as Opal). Sorry for the bad post above.
I have tried the Bell ROM (RUU_Vogue_4350_BM_WWE_3.08.666.1_Radio3.42.50_Ship.exe) and it is much slower than the Sprint version (RUU_PPST_Vogue_SPRINT_WWE_3.03.651.4_2_Radio_3.42.30_AM_NV_2.04_Ship.exe). Sprint, however has a lot of junk in it that I don't want or need. I have tried to understand some of the posts concerning cooked ROM's, but it is like I am coming in halfway through a conversation (my lack of experience, I suppose).
Does anyone have, or can they link me to, a reliable Sprint version (or non-partisan version since I will be programming it to Viva eventually anyway) that will work on the MP6900SP (Vogue CDMA)?
Also, could someone please explain to me why, when I am looking for Vogue CDMA ROM on the search, I see "Vogue, Vogue, Vogue upgrading etc." or "Shift accessories, Raphael, Raphael, Raphael CDMA, Raphael ROM development, Raphael software, Raphael accessories, Rose" all over? It is very annoying because these posts have NOTHING to do with the search criteria and make finding the exact information I want nearly impossible.
Thanks to all,
WMT
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If you want the VIVA / Opal version I assume you are talking about M2D?
Most custom ROMS feature M2D nowadays. It is dangerous to flash a ROM or radio meant for another phone to your phone.
The touch Family (elf, elfin, Vogue, Viva, touch3G etc) may look the same, but they are different phones. Try googling gsm vrs cdma for starters.
There are mant great ROMS designed specifically for your Vogue that feature M2D that are fantastic. The stock ROMS (sprint, Bell etc) feature Windows Mobile 6.1 for the most part.
There is also LOTS of instructions for upgrading your radio (preferably your own carriers), unlocking your phone, and flashing a custom ROM.
Good luck, read lots, learn lots and have fun doing it.
Tricom providers, Bell Mobility ROM, Looking for lighter weight Ship file.
Thank you for the information. I am aware of the difference between GSM and CDMA. This is a CDMA phone, Sprint model. As you can see above, I have already flashed it with the latest Sprint and Bell Mobility ROMs successfully. The phone has been programmed with Tricom's PRL and is working fine. It will NOT work on Viva, so please ignore any reference to the Viva HTC Touch as they only run with the GSM model, unlike other suppliers who will accept both.
I NEED WinMob 6 or higher for other applications that I run on this phone. All I want now is something that doesn't have the options that I don't need. Or that allows me to pick and choose. If there is a Ship file out there that fills that bill, I would like to know about it. Thanks,
WMT
ok so im trying to read things already posted, but there are too many posts to read and at this rate im not gonna get anything done and probably brick my (valuable) phone
so ill break it down into some simple questions that cannot possibly have a biased answer and the rest i can work out through trial and error
firstly, radio versions
i have 1.08.25.08.
many people are saying "woo hoo 1.00.25.05 is great" am i right in assuming this is an old build?
secondly the actual version number
is is as simple as the higher the number, the newer the radio? or do some of the numbers mean specific things like the 1.08.25.08 the first 08, does that mean vodafone uk (my carrier) or is it litteraly a version thing?
thirdly, which radio stacks will work (full functionality, not sort of works, or works but no 3g) on vodafone in the UK.
ok? i can try out all the radio versions that meet the third questions requisites and i can filter the versions i will try with the understanding of the first and second questions.
now, onto ROM versions.
im not so bothered about ROM's as the performance of the device seems ok to me, however, so as to remain informed i must ask.
WM 6.5, worth the upgrade? better features? i may simply look for a changelog, but has anyone tried it on the diamond, as the diamond was not built for 6.5 how does it handle the OS.
are there any rom's that come particularly recommended for their reliability, as my ideal phone would be stable, with good battery life (i know this is connected to the radio stack, but the ROM must also play some part) compatible and integrated with facebook and twitter (like on the diamond2)
also other than the ROM and the radio stack, is there anything else that needs updating? if so, please provide some info, if you must link to a wiki, please link to a relevant page, not the wiki as a whole... the idea of my asking is to save me trawling through hundreds of pages to find the 2 or 3 paragraphs i want... i am not google spider lol ( and i dont expect anyone here to be either, so im not fussed with detailed info, just an outline would be great, for any of the above points! im fairly clever, but the questions above are stumping me as im coming v late to this whole ROM issue and while the tutorials are good, im confident i could sucessfully flash my diamond, i fear i know nothing of the merits of the ROM's that the chefs are cooking.) anywho, im off to bed now, as its gone 4am and i have work at 3pm and my son will invariably wake me up around 8 so i must sleep now or forego it completely (dont you dare tempt me lol)
many thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help here.
As you have seen, there are quite few version of WM6.5 out there in the forum. from time to time, I load new releases which I think probably good enough to have a go, be frank, I havent found any WM6.5 cooked ROM suitable for me yet. most time, I find it's a bit sluggish. However, keep in mind, WM6.5 is not exactly mature yet.
For a good reliablity and performance, I woud recommend WM6.1 still. so you have to try each ROM yourself. It would create a debate here if I tell you which ROM i think best. have fun flashing!
Regarding Radio question, I think u rather post a question in the Radio thread. many ppl would be more than happy to help.
Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!
Welcome to forums
1. Yes!! one of the best actually!
2. Before flashing, be shure to learn how and to identify if your Rhodium is CDMA or GSM
3. There is no such thing as the best ROM, what is best for me could not be for you. Try the more you can till you get your best.
Check ROM section and see the threads with more reads/posts this way you´ll have an idea what members prefer more
4. I do not like spb, I´m quite happy with Manila/Sense 2.1, no need to install another external heavy app
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
HI all ..i just ordered tp2 from ebay since its yet not launched here in india.actually there was one sprint phone and one unlocked ohone listed there ..sicne i wanted 3.5 mm jack and the fact is i quite did not like the silver key board on the unlocked phone, i opted for sprint...
my question is how do i upgrade it to win mo 6.5..the seller says
"If you want I can send you the 6.5win mob file along with the stock (original ROM) and the procedure to upgrade and if not happy then downgrade to original rom."
but i read on web that sprint has not yet relaesed 6.5 rom pls advise.
also how is the video and audioi playback of the device since i prefered it over samsung omnia i 8000 which has a oled screen..actually i was tired of holding devices to my nose to watch videos and wanted a device which i can put on table and watch vdo music etc..
Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM
PaulCook1979 said:
Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!
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Welcome Paul Good to see somebody thinking ahead about things like this!
1) I think a lot of people here will agree that the TP2 is the pinnacle of a "fully-capable" smartphone...it's definitely the best of the QWERTY-enabled hardware available today, and will probably remain so until/unless they eventually release a HD2 or equivalent with a hardware keyboard (...heaven willing!)
2) I've never used the Vodaphone ROM, but most carrier-specific ROMs are lacking in some way, and a large number of the ROM's available here will work regardless of which carrier you have...as long as you use one for the correct NETWORK type (which I believe is CDMA for Voda). Often the aftermarket ("cooked") ROMs developed here are based on carrier-issued ROM, then "improved" in any number of ways.
3) As orb3000 said above, there's no real way to subjectively recommend a "best" ROM...each has it's own pros and cons that have to be weighed against the needs/preferences of the user. The best place to start on that is to read THIS and THIS thread on flashing ROMs, then read over the threads related to each ROM that's been cooked/released here. Again, just make sure you're looking at ones that are for CDMA networks.
4) SBP Shell is definitely a great program, and can do a lot for the UI...but like most here I happen to believe that you can get more bang for your buck with the custom ROMs available here. Again, it's best to just try some out (including running a trial of SPB), and see what fits you best
THIS thread will help clear up the differences between windows mobile versions 6.5 and 6.5.3, which you'll see a lot of here.
So, you've got a lot of reading to do between now and when your new TP2 arrives! Once you get through all that, the next thing to learn is how to install/apply the fixes and tweaks available on XDA...usually that's done through ".cab files" (when you're lucky), sometimes through executable files, and sometimes through good old-fashioned registry edits by hand. I get the feeling you'll be learning about all that stuff quickly enough
2 last pieces of advice...first, make friends with the search function here in the forums...its often more efficient than just posting a question, and will save you from the backlash that can happen when someone asks a question with answers that are readily available around here. Lastly, even though the ROMs and other tweaks here are produced out of a labor of love, most any and all developers will accept donations (however small) to help offset personal expenses related to the time and effort they put into the wonderful gifts they drop on us regularly here. Donations are always voluntary, but once you find a ROM or other bits that work well for you, it's always good form to express your appreciation via some kind of token like that.
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!
orb3000 said:
Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM
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Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work
dheerpat said:
Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work
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If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone
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If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone
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Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.
phew!!!!! missed a beat there..paid 500 bucks for it afterall
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.
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So there ARE dual-network Rhodiums! I've had this argument before, and was always told that it just wasn't true. Well I'm glad to know that I was right....back then anyway
sirphunkee said:
Welcome Paul
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!
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Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...
PaulCook1979 said:
Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...
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Yeah, SPB Shell used to be the best option for customizing the interface on winmo devices, but that was before HTC introduced, and have since refined, the TouchFLO3D interface. There's also a ton more user-generated tweaks and such that have sprung up since then (as you clearly see now).
I don't know about the GSM vs CDMA carriers in the UK or Europe, I'd always understood that GSM was dominant, but there were CDMA carriers there too...but I really have no idea for sure.
Well finally got my phone... its GSM....
Got the SPB shell - liking it.
Only issue i have is not being able to send MMS but trying to sort out.
So far so good - will play more once more confident - not bricking my phone for anyone lol