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HTC Vogue/Sprint's Touch by HTC forum?

Sprint launched their version of the HTC Touch, also known as the HTC Vogue. This is a different phone than the HTC Elf.
Will Xda-developers start sub-forums for the Vogue soon?

Seconded!!!

Thirding this, a Vogue subforum would be pretty great. It's probably my next phone.

I just ordered the Sprint Tilt (aka HTC Vogue) yesterday and was thinking the same thing.
My Paypal dollars are ready to be donated if someone gets the gps unlocked

jeffx said:
I just ordered the Sprint Tilt (aka HTC Vogue) yesterday and was thinking the same thing.
My Paypal dollars are ready to be donated if someone gets the gps unlocked
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Fourth, holding my Touch right now, it's a beauty. I'll also be more than happy to donate and test anything that gets my gps unlocked.

I'm a happy Kaiser (well,Tilt...) user, but my girlfriend has a Vogue arriving tomorrow, so consider this her vote by proxy.

'me too'
-m

Vogue forum please!

I agree that there should be at least one seperate subforum for this. The device has some features and the looks of a gsm touch, but it's much different from an elf on the inside.

yes new forum for CDMA Touch please. it is a great phone i just switched from the p4000 and am not looking back.

Any love on this front?

Yes new Vogue forum please!!!!

Recent ruling.....could this help??
Yes please consider a new Vogue forum.
This was a result of a recent lawsuit.
Sprint said it will share the unlocking code with all current and former subscribers once their phones are deactivated and their bills are paid. The company also will add information about the locking software and how to obtain the unlocking codes in the list of terms and conditions of service given to new customers, and instruct its customer service representatives on how to connect a non-Sprint phone to the Sprint network.
I plan on getting the Vogue if it can be modified and have programs loaded into its rom. Otherwise I would just get the T Mobile wing. Any suggestions?

Any love on this?

Well, until XDA Developers does something about it, PPCgeeks.com has a pretty good forum
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
Even though it says it is for the HTC ELF, it is almost nothing but HTC Vogue/Sprint Touch talk. In fact, someone just posted a ROM unlocker and supposedly, there is going to be a custom ROM posted very soon.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=12255

I was just about to PM a moderator about this to.
Not only are the phones coming available.
Also some roms for these phones are popping up in the ELF threads.
I extracted some of these but there's big (Small actually, just the Pagepool and rom Size) differences and i foresee a lot of people trying to flash them anyway. Resulting in phones that run out of memory in no time.
And to be totally honoust i haven't seen a lot of Moderators popping up in the Elf threads to.
The Elf's grown up. It's getting pretty busy. Just now it's finishing second in Users viewing posts right now. After the Artemis, that has a lot more experienced users. And i won't see the steady band on elf thread jumping to a new Touch version anytime soon.

Noonski said:
I was just about to PM a moderator about this to.
I extracted some of these but there's big (Small actually, just the Pagepool and rom Size) differences and i foresee a lot of people trying to flash them anyway. Resulting in phones that run out of memory in no time.
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Not that I am completely in the know or anything, but I would figured that the Radio Rom would be different since the ELF is GSM and the Vogue is CDMA. Also, the chipsets are different. I wouldn't think that either phone's rom would run on the other.

Will 6800 WM 6.1 work on the 6900?

my phone is a Sprint Mogul so I'm not familiar with the Touch. My daughter who has a Verizon Touch is visiting from out-of-state. Several months ago I saw an update to WM 6.1, but now I can no longer find a link. Verizon customer service can't help. Will the official Verizon WM 6.1 for the 6800 work correctly with the 6900?

No different phones so different rom images.
But the process that you followed to install WM 6.1 on your Titan is very similar to process that you'll need to follow if you want to install WM6.1 on your daughters XV6900.
That being said you'll find all the information/tools that you'll need to upgrade to WM6.1, by looking into unlocker sticky at the top of the forum.
A couple of things to remember:
1.) Verizon does not have an offical Wm6.1 update as of yet., to the best of my knowledge. There is one labeled Verizon Official, but like I said I don't think its official. If it was official, Verizon would have a download link listed somewhere under the phone in your account. At least they did when they come out with the XV6800 WM6.1 upgrade.
2.) You will probably need to call Verizon to get a new Akey after upgrading to the new rom. I've found that when going from a non-GPS rom to a GPS rom most of the time the AKey gets messed up.
Good luck

Thanks Flipdog. You answered my questions. I would update using a Kitchen from PPC Geeks, but I want it to be an official rom because my daughter might need support otherwise. Happy holidays.

Once you flash a new ROM, you become your own tech support. If it's for your daughter and she lives out of state, I suggest leaving it alone. The only upgrade that she may notice, unless she is big on tech, is the threaded text messaging.

Verizon 6.1 leaked ROM Link
The link is pretty easy to find actually:
http://www.phonenews.com/phones/index.php/HTC_Touch_(CDMA)

Small question, Noob in Rhodium

Hello guys,
As you can see, I am a noob in Rhodium but have been flashing since Magician, Tytn ,Tytn II.
So I know what to ask before posting, so please do not bash me as I am a noob with Rhodium and never had this Warning Come before in previous Phones.
Warning:
This package is not intended for your device type!!
High chance of bricking!! Existing Now!!
I bought the phone SIM UNLOCKED as I am using another network SIM on it.
I get the warning when trying to Flash automatically.
Now my question is, Should I go manual as the warning says do not attempt Manual UNLESS Another warning comes. Nothing in the Noob section talks about this particular warning.
If anyone could lead me to the right path, it would be highly appreciated
Hope you guys welcome me aboard and start multi flashing as I did on my previous phones

What model of Rhodium do you have? Under the battery, there should be barcodes and RHODxxx, where xxx is a number like 100, 300, etc. For example, my Tilt2 is a RHOD300. See, you might have a GSM/CDMA hybrid device, which needs a different HardSPL (which is in development). The model number will allow you to know if it's GSM or GSM/CDMA. If your device is GSM, it still gives a warning, and you've searched for others with this problem, you should post in the HardSPL unlocker thread.

mine is a RHOD500.
Help me, what should I do.
I see We ve both followed the same path. Kaiser than Rhodium

Yeah, seems like quite a few Kaiser owners were waiting for a better upgrade than the Raphael, and went with the Rhodium.
Anyway, back on topic. You have a RHOD500, which is a GSM/CDMA hybrid device. Unfortunately, there is currently no HardSPL for the RHOD400 or RHOD500 (only the exclusively GSM Rhodiums have HardSPL). However, you can rest assured that cmonex and Olipro are working on it.

That is sad as I was really looking forward to turn this Rhodium upside down.
Coz i know it has high potentials.
BTW, wht is the difference between rhod100,300,500,etc... Why the different ones? Were there flaws that were corrected everytime?
Oh well, back to kaiser forum and pimping it out with Stylez
Cant wait to get here and start flashing and helping out with the testing

The difference in model numbers reflects changes in hardware (AFAIK). For example, the the RHOD100 is the European GSM version from HTC, with the front camera, but the RHOD300 is the AT&T Tilt2 without the front camera (it also contains a slightly different chipset). The RHOD400 & RHOD500 are both GSM/CDMA devices, and as such have different chipsets than the GSM only versions. If you remember that the Kaiser had models KAIS100, KAIS110, and KAIS100 (depending on the amount of cameras), it's pretty much the same thing here.

Also has to do with Radio Chipset. The T-Mobile GSM Only Rhodium is different than the AT&T GSM Rhodium. They have different 3G hardware to handle the different 3G bands used. This is also why the European one has a different Model #. They have different 3G bands as well. T-Mobile is the RHOD210. Also, if you go to HTC's site & check, you'll see each one has a different Qualcomm MSM 7K chipset listed.
AT&T has 7201a
Verizon & Sprint have 7600
T-Mobile & European have 7200a

Thank you guys. I appreciate your help
A few more questions if you guys dont mind
1- When I had the kaiser, i used to flash different radios(kaiser,polaris,neon,niki) in order to get MY desired radio(GPS,batterylife,etc..). Will I be able to do that with my RHOD500?
2-Regarding also waiting for a HARDSPL(thank you Olinex and Olipro), will I have to wait for a better release in the future? (i.e: Production cars, people dont always buy the FIRST fleet of cars as they still have flaws, so they wait for the 2nd and 3rd production fleet where the company would have fixed the 1st release flaws)
I am not talking about roms as I know thats the case, but close enough since we had 3.29,3.34,etc..for Kaiser.Which will I have to flash?
Will I have to do that?
3-I bought my Rhodium Unlocked(since I am using another company), will I still have to get security/sim Unlocker in order to flash different radios?
Thank you guys for welcoming me over here

I'm not sure about that. Since those devices have GSM/CDMA capabilities, they might use different radios than GSM devices (I don't know), but I'm not sure if anyone other than cmonex and Olipro could answer that.
No, there really isn't a reason to wait. It's extremely unlikely that any unforseen consequences would occur since they have teams of people testing HSPL long before release, to ensure that it's okay to release to the general public.
You do not need to security unlock to flash radios. You DO need to security unlock to flash radios from other devices (such as the Topaz). However, this brings me back to your first question, which as I have already said, I do not know the answer to. Therefore, I think you'll need to wait and see (though HardSPL for CDMA devices should be out very soon from what I hear)

Appreciate your answers Dave .
Thanks for helping me out.
I do hope they get the HARDSPL soon as I am dying to start working on my RHODIUM.
I do want to ask the questions to cmonex and Olipro, but I am sure they are quite busy. Also I doubt they will answer my questions as they are busy and usualy, most busy people just tell me read the FAQ, which sometimes doesnt have the answer to my question.
BTW, have u tried STYLEZ Black, V3. Trust me, you ll luv it.FLAWLESS

bteljuice said:
Appreciate your answers Dave .
Thanks for helping me out.
I do hope they get the HARDSPL soon as I am dying to start working on my RHODIUM.
I do want to ask the questions to cmonex and Olipro, but I am sure they are quite busy. Also I doubt they will answer my questions as they are busy and usualy, most busy people just tell me read the FAQ, which sometimes doesnt have the answer to my question.
BTW, have u tried STYLEZ Black, V3. Trust me, you ll luv it.FLAWLESS
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Sure, happy to help
As I've said, HSPL should be ready very soon. CDMA HardSPL has already been finished, but cmonex was busy IRL and she also has to work out mirrors and the licensing server (or something like that). And when the Security/SIM/CID unlocker is ready, I'm sure that Olipro or cmonex (whoever posts it) will say what radios you can flash, etc.

Thx for the explination. Appreciate it
I am watting anctiously to start flashingm y RHOD500

Hey guys. Now I have a very good question.
In all my previous HTCs, I used to install NeoS2007 OpenVG and Chainfire's GFXBoost which seemed to improve Significantly the proformance and graphics.
Should i also install them on my rhodium?

When I used the NeoS2007 driverpack 3 on EnergyROM "Leo", I actually got worse 3D performance, and it seemed slower than before. GfxBoost didn't really have a noticable effect, IMO. However, you should test them on whatever ROM you have, since the overall effect may be different in your particular setup.

The thing is, I have the RHOD500, no HARDSPL YET. I just wanted to know in advance of the effect so that when the time comes to flash, ill get everything done by the first flash.

bteljuice said:
The thing is, I have the RHOD500, no HARDSPL YET.
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Are you sure about that?

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
I think I just wet myself.
THANK YOU soooooooooo much daveeeee

Or right here on the site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660

Some questions?

Morning all
Got my TP2 last week now, and this is my first winmo phone, so everything is new and exciting, and I'm loving it
But I want to change the rom on my phone, and after reading all the warnings I want to be sure of that what I'm doing is correct.
So, my phone is bought in Norway (GSM), but I don't know if i have the "World phone" edition, with the CDMA abilities built in. So I'm a bit unsure which HardsSPL I should use for my phone. Is there a way I can find out what kind of phone I have?
Also, the roms i have been checking out (like MightyRom), is only for CDMA phones, can anyone recomend, or give me a couple of roms for GSM phones?
Thanks in advance

Welcome aboard
Have a deep read here to learn how to flash a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Be sure what model of Rhodium you have before flashing a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
Then go to ROM section and choose a ROM (I recommend Energy´s phoenix2)
Good luck and enjoy!

Thanks, love the forum
The flashing of the rom seems easy enough, as long as i follow the instruction
It looks like i have the Rhodium T7373, which also is stated on my phone under Modelnr.. Should i then use the HardSPL for GSM?
According to PDADB.net it does not have CDMA support but it has UMTS (which i have no clue what is)
Thanks for your help, really apriciate it

you only have cdma if you live in america or canada and have sprint, verizon, or telus. seeing as you are in norway, install any gsm rom you want. have fun.

My HTC Touch Pro 2 has now HardSPL and Energy Phoenix 2 rom on it now, and i LOVE IT!
Though i had bricked the phone during the HardSPL installation, but i was just a bit edgy!
Thanks alot for your help.

Glad to know it helped,
Now...Enjoy!!

HTC Touch Pro2 - New User Questions

Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!

Welcome to forums
1. Yes!! one of the best actually!
2. Before flashing, be shure to learn how and to identify if your Rhodium is CDMA or GSM
3. There is no such thing as the best ROM, what is best for me could not be for you. Try the more you can till you get your best.
Check ROM section and see the threads with more reads/posts this way you´ll have an idea what members prefer more
4. I do not like spb, I´m quite happy with Manila/Sense 2.1, no need to install another external heavy app
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

HI all ..i just ordered tp2 from ebay since its yet not launched here in india.actually there was one sprint phone and one unlocked ohone listed there ..sicne i wanted 3.5 mm jack and the fact is i quite did not like the silver key board on the unlocked phone, i opted for sprint...
my question is how do i upgrade it to win mo 6.5..the seller says
"If you want I can send you the 6.5win mob file along with the stock (original ROM) and the procedure to upgrade and if not happy then downgrade to original rom."
but i read on web that sprint has not yet relaesed 6.5 rom pls advise.
also how is the video and audioi playback of the device since i prefered it over samsung omnia i 8000 which has a oled screen..actually i was tired of holding devices to my nose to watch videos and wanted a device which i can put on table and watch vdo music etc..

Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM

PaulCook1979 said:
Hello,
Well i have finally gone and joined the elite ranks of owning a phone with the Windows Mobile OS.
Usually been a blackberry user who went to the HTC Magic and has just given up on the Google Android OS (is that a dirty word around here?).
So i purchased the HTC Touch Pro2 based on a recomendation from a very jealous workmate. Am still waiting for delivery but have a few queries he thought i should ask on here to get a good varied level of responses.
1. HTC Touch Pro2 - Good phone?
2. Vodafone ROM - I believe the ROM vodafone use (UK) screws the phone up a bit. So those who use Vodafone and still have their ROM installed... what do you think of it?
3. ROM - Any recomendations on the best ROM? I understand their are many out there and all do various things but just trying to get a view of what people prefer.
4. SPB Shell - a must have?
Thats really it i guess... just trying to get a feel of the OS and issues before i start tinkering.
Thanks!
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Welcome Paul Good to see somebody thinking ahead about things like this!
1) I think a lot of people here will agree that the TP2 is the pinnacle of a "fully-capable" smartphone...it's definitely the best of the QWERTY-enabled hardware available today, and will probably remain so until/unless they eventually release a HD2 or equivalent with a hardware keyboard (...heaven willing!)
2) I've never used the Vodaphone ROM, but most carrier-specific ROMs are lacking in some way, and a large number of the ROM's available here will work regardless of which carrier you have...as long as you use one for the correct NETWORK type (which I believe is CDMA for Voda). Often the aftermarket ("cooked") ROMs developed here are based on carrier-issued ROM, then "improved" in any number of ways.
3) As orb3000 said above, there's no real way to subjectively recommend a "best" ROM...each has it's own pros and cons that have to be weighed against the needs/preferences of the user. The best place to start on that is to read THIS and THIS thread on flashing ROMs, then read over the threads related to each ROM that's been cooked/released here. Again, just make sure you're looking at ones that are for CDMA networks.
4) SBP Shell is definitely a great program, and can do a lot for the UI...but like most here I happen to believe that you can get more bang for your buck with the custom ROMs available here. Again, it's best to just try some out (including running a trial of SPB), and see what fits you best
THIS thread will help clear up the differences between windows mobile versions 6.5 and 6.5.3, which you'll see a lot of here.
So, you've got a lot of reading to do between now and when your new TP2 arrives! Once you get through all that, the next thing to learn is how to install/apply the fixes and tweaks available on XDA...usually that's done through ".cab files" (when you're lucky), sometimes through executable files, and sometimes through good old-fashioned registry edits by hand. I get the feeling you'll be learning about all that stuff quickly enough
2 last pieces of advice...first, make friends with the search function here in the forums...its often more efficient than just posting a question, and will save you from the backlash that can happen when someone asks a question with answers that are readily available around here. Lastly, even though the ROMs and other tweaks here are produced out of a labor of love, most any and all developers will accept donations (however small) to help offset personal expenses related to the time and effort they put into the wonderful gifts they drop on us regularly here. Donations are always voluntary, but once you find a ROM or other bits that work well for you, it's always good form to express your appreciation via some kind of token like that.
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!

orb3000 said:
Your sprint Rhodium is CDMA, so this is the section where you can find a 6.5 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
Never try to install a GSM ROM
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Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work

dheerpat said:
Hi shingler...we dont hv sprint network in india..morevr the ad said that it is a gsm unlockd phone and seler can send nstruction if need to unlock cdma...wht is it actually..gsm or cdma...confusing..i hv vodaphone gsm ..will it work
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If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone

sirphunkee said:
If you bought a Sprint-branded phone, then it's CDMA, and there's no changing that. You can't "unlock" a phone to switch between GSM and CDMA...so if your network is GSM, this phone is no good to you as a...phone
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Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.

phew!!!!! missed a beat there..paid 500 bucks for it afterall

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Actually, that's not true. See, the funny thing about the Rhodium is that there are no exclusively CDMA versions. Instead, there are the RHOD400 and RHOD500 models, which are GSM/CDMA hybrids. People refer to them as CDMA devices because of the fact they operate on CDMA networks by default, but they have full GSM capability, and can use regular GSM SIM cards.
dheerpat: The device you have bought works on GSM, but it will be referred to as a CDMA device on this forum, and you should use CDMA ROMs on it, despite the fact it also works on GSM. You should be able to use a Vodaphone SIM with it as long as you put the device in GSM mode, and if the SIM doesn't work, you can unlock the device so it will work.
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So there ARE dual-network Rhodiums! I've had this argument before, and was always told that it just wasn't true. Well I'm glad to know that I was right....back then anyway

sirphunkee said:
Welcome Paul
Good luck! Your friend has no idea what jealousy is about until he sees the look on your face when you start playing with your new toy!!
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Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...

PaulCook1979 said:
Hi, thanks for the response - and thanks to everyone else who has responded (aprt from those who hijacked my post lol).
I wont be using CDMA as i believe this is mainly for the US not the UK? So my geeky mate tells me, we only use GSM in England? Is he wrong and we don in fact use CDMA?
He also looked very shocked when i repeated that a lot of people dont go for the SPB Shell... he said its awesome and im stupid if i dont get it... yeah well i got a HTC Touch Pro2 and you dont pal... lol
I will look at the ROM's (already started) and will 'play' with a few that look interesting. I presume the SPB shell will work with any ROM and not wipe out any functionality? If i go for the SPB Shell...
Quite comfortable with the use of .cab files.... may not be so sure with registry tweaks but ill learn...
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Yeah, SPB Shell used to be the best option for customizing the interface on winmo devices, but that was before HTC introduced, and have since refined, the TouchFLO3D interface. There's also a ton more user-generated tweaks and such that have sprung up since then (as you clearly see now).
I don't know about the GSM vs CDMA carriers in the UK or Europe, I'd always understood that GSM was dominant, but there were CDMA carriers there too...but I really have no idea for sure.

Well finally got my phone... its GSM....
Got the SPB shell - liking it.
Only issue i have is not being able to send MMS but trying to sort out.
So far so good - will play more once more confident - not bricking my phone for anyone lol