Battery life on WM6.5 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that battery life on the TP2 is $hite after upgrading from WM6.1 to 6.5?
Using 6.1, I used to have Phone, Bluetooth and WiFi on all day at work, and get home and still have 60% batttery left.
Now, I have to turn off Bluetooth when it's not in use, and WiFi, and will be lucky to get home with more than 30% left.
Battery or unit hasn't been damaged or anything, and the only change was flashing the new WWE ROM through it.

I noticed an decrease in battery life too. That, the high memory usage, and the general feeling that the 6.5 ROM isn't as stable as the 6.1 ROM has made me flash back to WM6.1.

yup, same here.
Battery is dropping much faster, as well as higher mem usage.
Also the information tab of the power icon constantly says not applicable even though I have fully charged the unit numerous time already.

Yes, bettery life on my handset has been reduced. I've disabled all the push internet and removed a couple of the touch flo tabs to see if this will help. I think the new weather panel could be contributing.

i had the same not applicable issue, but yesterday i used the phone until battery was less than 10% and then charged it fully. now it's ok

Flashing back to 6.1?
Can you actually flash back to version 6.1? I thought that the upgrader wouldn't let you go back a version?
I do have the original HTC 6.1 ROM file and would do it, but I don't want to completely brick the unit.
The batttery info tab does the same on mine... so that's no good.
I've turned off all the push functions and the program quick-start cache and, at first, my memory availaibilty nearly doubled. However, it won't get back to those levels, even after a soft reset. I've tried Pocket Mechanic to clean out redundant RAM, dead process threads the lot... no joy.
There's other bugs too... when you rearrange the folders using Resco Explorer to drop them into logical Start Menu group folders, some still appear in the wrong group, even though they don't show in the directory listing... and that's WITH 'show hidden files' option to 'on'. e.g. HTC People icon, and Microsoft Mobile Online which stays on the main menu wherever you move it... it seems to make a copy of itself.
It's an odd little app anyway, as my online MS Live account doesn't show any activity to do with my mobile... so where my txt message backup has actually gone is anyone's guess?
I think overall, with HTC withdrawing the ROM from their own website, it's fair to say it's nowhere ready and far too buggy... and they are obviously not happy with it going out to public release.
If I can flash it back safely, then I'll do it.

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ridolfo said:
I noticed an decrease in battery life too. That, the high memory usage, and the general feeling that the 6.5 ROM isn't as stable as the 6.1 ROM has made me flash back to WM6.1.
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Thought I had the 6.1. ROM, but it's not the full version... just an incremental.
Is there anyone on here that knows a secret location for the original HTC European WWE HTC 6.1 ROM? Signature panel shows what I had before.
I've tried a search and can only find cooked ones.
Thanks.

TyTanIc said:
Is there anyone on here that knows a secret location for the original HTC European WWE HTC 6.1 ROM? Signature panel shows what I had before.
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Is this the sort of thing you are looking for? It's version 1.19.401.1, but version .0 is also at the repository link below if you need it. I presume this is the full ROM.....
The roms can be found located at the XDA ROMS repository.
I hope it is okay to link from here?
I don't know about downgrading, sorry - i'm sure someone with more experience can help though.
Cheers

I think you can only downgrade if you have hardspl on your phone.

Reaper said:
I think you can only downgrade if you have hardspl on your phone.
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Nope, I upgraded from the stock WM6.1 to WM6.5, and then "downgraded" to WM6.1 again using the RUU from HTC; no HardSPL involved there.

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Do all WM6 ROM's drop available storage memory?

I'm asking because, I've used a couple and they all seem to drop after a while of use, requiring you to soft reset eventually. Didn't notice this problem in WM5. My wifes MDA has 25Megs of available program memory at any given moment, and she never resets her device or uses hybernate or clears cache mem unless I do it (and yes, she uses quite a few programs daily). My device starts out at 25Megs and then slowly drops down to about 20, then after a couple more days, down to about 17Megs (that's the lowest I've gotten before I reset). And when it drops this low, I use Clear Tem to clean the cache and other temp folders. And I use Hybernate and I still can't get the memory back up to 20Megs. So is this just WM6 or could it be the ROM I'm using?
I'm currently running Meschle's O2 Premium ROM (which is great BTW). This ROM is much better on memory than some previous ROMs I've used but it does drop down like I mentioned above. Didn't bother me until the other day when I was trying to get some pics of some friends for my picture caller ID. The camera would not open because memory was too low. I had to soft reset. It was quite embarrasing. May have just been a fluke but just wondering. Anyone else notice this?
BTW I do not have the TF Cube installed and only the default contacts manager.
Other programs installed besides what's in the O2 Premium ROM:
Opera Mobile
iSilo (document reader)
Oxford Spanish Dictionary
Conjegator prog
TomTom Nav 6
Used HTC Home page editor to change appearance and icons on home page but I removed the program after changes made
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
kakainis said:
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
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I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
shawndh said:
I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
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I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
devdarshan said:
I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
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OK. I know I'm not alone then.
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
natxocc said:
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
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Same here!
A daily soft reset restores the initial amount of "program memory". I think it's a WM6 issue too (memory leak somewhere?).
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On WM5 this did happen
Hi,
natxocc said:
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On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
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On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
dxs1 said:
Hi,
On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
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I have been using Meschle's Vanilla for last one week - no issues so far - even the leak is there but not that extensive...I start of with 26.75MB upon softreset and after d aday of using most of the apps incl. calls, tomtom, activesync - I have never really gone down below 20MB - but I do make it a point to use the Oxios closeApp and Hibernate as often as I can...
I reset once in maybe 3-4 days that too if I feel there is a drag...battery life is superb...no complaints whatsoever...
Have no reason to switch ROM's anymore untill I see something that really fancies me...or a RADIO/OS or build upgrade...

How is the offical WM6.5 ROM on TP2?

I'm on a Topaz and still waiting for our official WM6.5 ROM to be released (26th October is the date) and I wonder how fast and smooth the ROM is for you guys? I find all the custom ROMS for Topaz to be sluggish even tho the RAM usage is the same as WM6.1 (40-50%). So tell me guys
anybody have the theme from the 6.5 rom? im tired of the ugly microsoft one on my phone. i figure ill check out htcs 6.5 theme.
Coming from a person that likes "screen candy", but prefers performance - I am disappointed with 6.5 on my stock TP2 - Its not a complete failure, but to me you can tell its a vista type upgrade which the phone can't really handle.. its not as quick as 6.1 simply because its spending all its time dealing with the candy.
ArtieQ said:
I'm on a Topaz and still waiting for our official WM6.5 ROM to be released (26th October is the date) and I wonder how fast and smooth the ROM is for you guys? I find all the custom ROMS for Topaz to be sluggish even tho the RAM usage is the same as WM6.1 (40-50%). So tell me guys
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Window dressing
IMHO the upgrade is little more than Window(s)dressing.
a smear of screen candy added to WM 6.1.
They ought to have named it WM6.1.0.1. Yes i know. It´s their product and their right to "name their baby" but DAMN!!
Don´t get me wrong. I am not thinking of jumping ship and i upgraded as well.
I just can´t help i feeling like i bought a new screwdriver because the old one didn´t have a handle in "this years colours"
On top of that i seem to have received some stability issues together with the "upgrade". Haven´t nailed the problem yet and maybe it´s a user error, but at the very least i think it´s safe to state that stability in my experience haven´t improved one bit.
Regards
ELO
So how fluid is the startmenu for you guys? I remember it was very laggy on every custom ROM I've tried.
The whole phone could be described as laggy now, not a deal breaker - just a disappointment when your actually trying to use it and menus take a little longer to display etc...
Not only did the phone get slow and laggy with the new 6.5 update, there is also several bugs.
For instance when I turned off the phone with wifi enabled, then when I turned the phone back on, the wifi did not work or show in the notification area, but when I went in to Comm Manager the wifi appeared to be enabled. So I had to disable and then again enable the wifi to use it again.
I have tried to install/flash it a couple of times with the same result, but now I went back to 6.1 and is happy with my TP2 again.
I do not know what HTC thought of when they released this buggy and slow 6.5 update.
larsmn said:
For instance when I turned off the phone with wifi enabled, then when I turned the phone back on, the wifi did not work or show in the notification area, but when I went in to Comm Manager the wifi appeared to be enabled. So I had to disable and then again enable the wifi to use it again.
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This problem is bothering me.. I can't belive HTC do not test its update!
sounds to me that TP2 owners should stay away from the upgrade to 6.5, not only because of the aferementioned problems, but also because a lot of owners are not happy with the (coloured) icons in the revised TF3D.
DJ Palmis said:
This problem is bothering me.. I can't belive HTC do not test its update!
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I think it is a nice "feature". If you start a program that needs network it automatically turn on WiFi if it was enabled before it was turned off. You do not need to turn off and on again in Comm Mangager.
skjelnes said:
I think it is a nice "feature". If you start a program that needs network it automatically turn on WiFi if it was enabled before it was turned off. You do not need to turn off and on again in Comm Mangager.
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Same here, I prefer the implementation now, you can leave WI FI on and it will only connect when you need it, not whenever it is range of a router.
Tom
skjelnes said:
I think it is a nice "feature". If you start a program that needs network it automatically turn on WiFi if it was enabled before it was turned off. You do not need to turn off and on again in Comm Mangager.
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Oh.. It is TRUE!!! WOW!!! I did not understand this feature! It's wonderful! Thank you!
skjelnes said:
I think it is a nice "feature". If you start a program that needs network it automatically turn on WiFi if it was enabled before it was turned off. You do not need to turn off and on again in Comm Mangager.
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That's not what happened on my device. I did try to open Opera after I turned on the phone (when wifi appeared to be disabled in the notification area) but it started connecting to 3G instead of wifi, eventhough wifi actually appeared to be enabled in Comm Manager.
My experiences with the official 6.5 ROM
I have been a WM-user for many years and now my way around the system.
With this ROM I have been through several reflashes and "install-test-restart-install-test-restart-reinstallations" on my unbranded Danish TP2/Rhodium.
+ Nice new IE
+ Nice HTC Sense UI
+ WM 6.5 is a fresh breeze: It is more finger friendly and more colour full than before)
- HTC Sense UI constantly lags
- Bug in "Detailed Power Details" Seems to reset itself so it is hard to keep a statistic of daily usage. Go to-> Settings->System->Power Options
- Spontaneous shutdowns -> Had three in one day, without even using the phone!? Had to remove cover and battery.
- Lag in TomTom got worse than in WM 6.1 (might be TomTom or HTCs fault).
- The keyboard icon on the soft button panel often disappaers and I have to restart the phone to get it back.
- Uses more memory. Idle usage is mostly between 75-80% and often even higher. This makes it difficult to really multitask with several open applications.
- Start menu seems sluggish and not smooth scrolling.
- Delayed sound notifications on text messages
- Multitasking is slooow
In general WM 6.5 seems slow and "laggy" compared to the "old" 6.1.
Yes, it's a "new" OS, but so much worse than 6.1? I don't get it....
HTC (and MS?), IMHO this is a bummer....I am for sure on my way back to 6.1
/The Chozen
TheChozen said:
I have been a WM-user for many years and now my way around the system.
With this ROM I have been through several reflashes and "install-test-restart-install-test-restart-reinstallations" on my unbranded Danish TP2/Rhodium.
+ Nice new IE
+ Nice HTC Sense UI
+ WM 6.5 is a fresh breeze: It is more finger friendly and more colour full than before)
- HTC Sense UI constantly lags
- Bug in "Detailed Power Details" Seems to reset itself so it is hard to keep a statistic of daily usage. Go to-> Settings->System->Power Options
- Spontaneous shutdowns -> Had three in one day, without even using the phone!? Had to remove cover and battery.
- Lag in TomTom got worse than in WM 6.1 (might be TomTom or HTCs fault).
- The keyboard icon on the soft button panel often disappaers and I have to restart the phone to get it back.
- Uses more memory. Idle usage is mostly between 75-80% and often even higher. This makes it difficult to really multitask with several open applications.
- Start menu seems sluggish and not smooth scrolling.
- Delayed sound notifications on text messages
- Multitasking is slooow
In general WM 6.5 seems slow and "laggy" compared to the "old" 6.1.
Yes, it's a "new" OS, but so much worse than 6.1? I don't get it....
HTC (and MS?), IMHO this is a bummer....I am for sure on my way back to 6.1
/The Chozen
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Thanks for the long review dude, I will not upgrade to WM6.5 when they release the update for TD2, WM6.1+SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is good enough for me at the moment.
ArtieQ said:
I'm on a Topaz and still waiting for our official WM6.5 ROM to be released (26th October is the date) and I wonder how fast and smooth the ROM is for you guys?
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Neither of the words "fast" or "smooth" are appropriate for the official WM6.5 ROM on the TP2. "Slow", "sluggish" and "laggy" are more the sort of words I found myself using.
After 2 days of using 6.5, by the end of which I was ready to give up on the HTC and buy an iPhone, I went back to the official 6.1 ROM.
There isn't that much extra graphic flashiness in 6.5 - certainly not enough to justify the seriously adverse effect it has on responsiveness of the user interface. I'm wondering if this is a deliberate ploy by HTC to persuade TP2 owners who want 6.5 to upgrade to a new device...
wm 6.5 has problems but the problem about memory is just the HTC Sense item, HTC Manila in 6.1 was faster due to graphics... i think we do not need such quality in graphics (because that made the HTC Sense slowerr) i closed HTC Sense and added other today items and works much better than 6.1!! HTC is trying to get better today screen than the other WM phones, this makes it much better but slower . but, i think HTC and iphone have much differences. Whatever for me; Windows Mobile and HTC are the best!!
I flashed probably the best cooked WM6.5 ROM for Topaz and I saw no difference with HTC Sense on/off, it was same sluggishness with both.
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wm 6.5 has problems but the problem about memory is just the HTC Sense item, HTC Manila in 6.1 was faster due to graphics... i think we do not need such quality in graphics (because that made the HTC Sense slowerr) i closed HTC Sense and added other today items and works much better than 6.1!! HTC is trying to get better today screen than the other WM phones, this makes it much better but slower . but, i think HTC and iphone have much differences. Whatever for me; Windows Mobile and HTC are the best!!
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On both WM6.1 and WM6.5, I hack the registry to turn off as much of the HTC customisation as possible, and HTC Sense is the first thing to go. Even with all the HTC additions switched off, WM6.5 itself uses 50% of the program memory - WM6.1 used less than 40%. The sluggishness is still there with the default Windows today screen and start menu on 6.5. It may well be worse with HTC Sense enabled, but disabling it does not make 6.5 on the TP2 anywhere near as fast and responsive as 6.1.
My positive experience with the official 6.5 ROM
i thought i had better post as i am obviously lucky, as my TP2 (UK unbranded) is working so much quicker in the 6.5 rom. slider is much quicker to respond with no lag, and the "grid" menu of programs is instamt on key press. I was impressed when first using. I used for a week and then installed Pocket Shield, expecting it to take a performance hit. But no, it is still working quicker than before. I then started to add a few programs, and as has been posted the memory usage does go to 80% from time to time, but I still have a quick device. what have i got that is different?
I will now start tweaking to give other improvements.
I had to post to give a balanced view.

How to increase my phones overall speed? (HTC Touch Pro 2 : T-Mobile)

I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
You'll find LOTS of tweaks here. Start searching and reading...
For me the most noticable speed improvements came from:
Turn off ClearType.
Disable PushInternet.
Don't use sense (I use SPB mobile Shell).
There are many others that will have more subtle effects. Like I said, start reading...
turn off sense, use titanium, or some other light weight replacement
i used iPhoneToday and use it to replace Sense, it freed up 20mb program memory on my TP2 and everything is just a lot smoother.
Non of the custom roms are fast enough for me with Sense on.
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Welcome to forums
if you don´t mind to loose Sense and you want to really increase speed and performance go and flash a WM6.1 cooked ROM
That way your Rhodium will fly!!
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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The "no push internet" cab turns off the real-time cacheing of web data, and the "dynamic resource proxy" makes a simple registry change that lets the phone free up memory better when apps and processes are done using it.
HTC released a signed rom with sense 2.5 that is the fastest overall rom I have ever used. It just flies man. I use the European version but my buddy told me they released an American version recently. Either one will work just the same. This rom can be found in the rom developement section or on HTC's site. You wont be dissapointed. The only thing I added was duttys task manager because they didnt include it with the rom. Im talking about the task manager in the upper right hand corner. Here is the cab for that if you decide to flash that rom. I highly reccomend it cause of the speed and stability. Its the best. PM me if you have any questions.
thanks
hey guys thanks for the advise i was having the same issues with enery rom its so full of stuff that it bogs down now and then these tweeks helped alot
hey i tried installing these cabs but it didn't really speed up my phone? did i do something wrong?
how do i turn off cleartype?
Rom Version 1.20.531.4 WM6.1
Thank you to everyone!
I download the two cab files and they helped speed up my T-Mobile TP2.
I was wondering? I have rom version 1.20.534.4 and would like to keep WM6.1. Am I able to upgrade my rom while keeping WM6.1 and is it worth while?
Thank you in advance for any useful information!
Giovanni
how do i turn off cleartype?
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Goto the Settings Tab
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/Font
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unhook it...
Done...
Need help with slow downloading speed!
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 running Windows 6.5 and already tweaked it with regedit and did the overclock cab and doing fine at 768. Yes the phone is much faster responding but downloading is still too slow. Did a hard reset days before the tweaks and was downloading fast then just slowed down again so I tried the tweaks to help but no success, can anyone help
gotta say I was about to give up on my Tp2 after years of loyal service, just felt so pokey next to my wifes HTC Incredible.
Then I decided what the hell, since I was gonna bail on it anyway I tried (for the first time) HardSPL and a custom rom, in this case MightyROM.
Anyway, its faster, a *lot* faster than any stock VZW rom I ever had (and due to my faithfulness to the TP2 platform Ive tried em all over the years) and it seems very optimized for speed. The only caveat is that it uses the WM6.5 start menu instead of the usual HTC one but that was no big deal for me, and Im sure helps reduce overhead. The phone boots up with 45%-50% memory used, compared to the usual 65% on the VZW roms.
So looks like I'll keep this a while longer, thanks MightyMike! Wish Id tried flashing a long time ago!
PS: I tried WinMoSpeed before flashing and noticed little diff, even @768.
MightyRom is definitely noticeably faster in comparison.
The TP2 is old...It's life is over...get a new phone and move on...
I still have one and my screen is cracked but, there is nothing in Windows Mobile that Verizon has that is any good right now, so Asurion cant help right now

I dont understand all these roms :(

hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!
1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.
thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.
Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.
also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me
i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?
Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.
fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
da9th_one said:
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.
Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?
feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.
Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!

[Q] I am new to flashing ROM, but my phone isn't.

I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.
Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.
Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated
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Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.
What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?
ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.
What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?
USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.
Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.
It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.
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Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.
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Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.

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