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Universal Radio Upgrades - Hard vs. Soft Reset

OK I think I just did a stupid thing!
I thought that a Radio only upgrade didn't require a Hard Reset (i.e. to Factory defaults and losing all your local data / program installs).
So I went from 1.09 to 1.11, hit the 'reset' button on completion and the stupid thing did a hard reset!
So where did I go wrong - well I think it is because I did the radio upgrade as a standard upgrade just by running the normal update files with only the new radio ROM file present and no other ROM files.
What I didn't do was to enter the BootLoader manually first I left it all up to the RUU files to do the job :roll:
Is it this (not manually entering the bootloader first - like the Wiki tells you to - mind you it also tells you to hard reset) which caused the hard reset which was beyond my control :?:
I'm sure I've changed the Radio ROM only on my old BA without all this hassle - just can't remember what I did differently.

From what I remember, you are supposed to press the reset pin hole while pushing down on the ON/OFF button. This would cause it to soft reset according to the on-screen instructions, and it did on mine when I tried it. But of course, I also performed a backup to be on the safe side.

Really not my day today - Whilst reinstalling and going through reset cycles my Exec turned into a brick :shock:
Stuck at boot-screen with ROM versions showing
Hopefully the Wiki resolution to this one is going to work..
Ever wish you'd just left the thing alone

Whenever I've done a radio upgrade, I've simply pressed the reset button with the tip of the stylus - that's it.
I've done about 6 up/downgrades, I would guess, and not had any problems. I hope you get yours sorted out.
Cheers,
Steve.

StevePritchard said:
Whenever I've done a radio upgrade, I've simply pressed the reset button with the tip of the stylus - that's it.
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At least I'm not going mad then - That's exactly what I did before this all went pear-shaped.
Did you upgrade whilst in the bootloader or just from WM5 running normally?

dpayea said:
Stuck at boot-screen with ROM versions showing
Hopefully the Wiki resolution to this one is going to work..
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De-Bricked

dpayea said:
dpayea said:
Stuck at boot-screen with ROM versions showing
Hopefully the Wiki resolution to this one is going to work..
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De-Bricked
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Good to hear!

dpayea said:
StevePritchard said:
Whenever I've done a radio upgrade, I've simply pressed the reset button with the tip of the stylus - that's it.
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At least I'm not going mad then - That's exactly what I did before this all went pear-shaped.
Did you upgrade whilst in the bootloader or just from WM5 running normally?
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WM5 running normally - to be fair, it sometimes took a few attempts for the upgrade to "take", but once it was going, I've had no problems - glad to hear you manage to de-brick it.
Cheers,
Steve.

dpayea said:
dpayea said:
Stuck at boot-screen with ROM versions showing
Hopefully the Wiki resolution to this one is going to work..
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De-Bricked
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Good to hear!

About Hard Spl 1.13 Oli Plz Help!

i tried to upgare my bootloader
with the black edition but when i start the rom upgrade it asked me what boot loader i have
so i had 1.01
when i give that option it tells me to run the rom only with mityy
but i saw an option in the rom upgrade that say force spl so i choos that option and after few second it finished and i see i have 1.13 oli
so it works that way because i didnt peek version in the rom upgrade i just peek the force spl
????

yes, it worked... as you can tell BY THE FACT YOUR PHONE IS STILL OK... why the hell did you waste YOUR TIME AND OURS by posting a whole ****ing topic telling the world "whoopee my flash succeeded because I followed instructions."

sorry man!"'
but after idid it my phone some times fast and in the begining it slow
somthing hapend?
do i need to do somthing now?

Yea, And if you would have read the Hard SPL thread or the Upgrade Guide by MrVanx you would have known what to do! I guess it's good someone like Olipro took the time to create this!

bubu23 said:
sorry man!"'
but after idid it my phone some times fast and in the begining it slow
somthing hapend?
do i need to do somthing now?
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nope... you don't need to do anything at all, that's completely in your head.

yes but in the tread how to make hard spl it say simply if you have
1.01 then choose the first(blue)
when i choose it it tell me that i cant continue that i need to do it with mitty
but i didnt choose the boot loader i have i just choose the force sspl then it worked i hope

bubu23 said:
yes but in the tread how to make hard spl it say simply if you have
1.01 then choose the first(blue)
when i choose it it tell me that i cant continue that i need to do it with mitty
but i didnt choose the boot loader i have i just choose the force sspl then it worked i hope
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IT WORKED, IT WORKED, IT WORKED, IT WORKED DOT ****ING COM
stop worrying and move on with your life... christ

Olipro,
hi,
I flash with LVSW's full update with 1.13Oli SPL, During the first screen I select Force SSPL. After flash the ROM I got white backgroud on Today's screen. I read through few people's experience with white background and try to fix it. Nothing works so I flash the OS only upgrade. The upgrade stop in middle of flashing. Later I discover the DL files were bad. Now, my 8525 bootup into 3 color screen with:
herm 1.13Oli screen. No activeSync connection..... In XP I can see the MobileDevice, but nothing within the folder.
Is it my device is now brick??
Any help will be appreciate.

Penske MB said:
hi,
I flash with LVSW's full update with 1.13Oli SPL, During the first screen I select Force SSPL. After flash the ROM I got white backgroud on Today's screen. I read through few people's experience with white background and try to fix it. Nothing works so I flash the OS only upgrade. The upgrade stop in middle of flashing. Later I discover the DL files were bad. Now, my 8525 bootup into 3 color screen with:
herm 1.13Oli screen. No activeSync connection..... In XP I can see the MobileDevice, but nothing within the folder.
Is it my device is now brick??
Any help will be appreciate.
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go to the Hard-SPL thread, download the new Hard-SPL.
when flashing, select 1.11 and tick Hard-SPL (or don't, doesn't really matter).
go through the flash, let it update your SPL.
now, with 1.30, flash the latest LVSW WM6 ROM, or any other

Hi,
Thx for the fast response.
I have DL your newest Hard-SPL V4 version 1.30Oli. When I run the update it shows error (264) connection. No matter what, it will not update.
I have remove and reinstall activesync, but XP will find the device, but no activesync connection.
What should I di next??
THX
Olipro said:
go to the Hard-SPL thread, download the new Hard-SPL.
when flashing, select 1.11 and tick Hard-SPL (or don't, doesn't really matter).
go through the flash, let it update your SPL.
now, with 1.30, flash the latest LVSW WM6 ROM, or any other
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Penske MB said:
Hi,
Thx for the fast response.
I have DL your newest Hard-SPL V4 version 1.30Oli. When I run the update it shows error (264) connection. No matter what, it will not update.
I have remove and reinstall activesync, but XP will find the device, but no activesync connection.
What should I di next??
THX
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put a full LVSW NBH (as HERMIMG.nbh) on a MicroSD card and put it in your Hermes

When I power on 8525, it just show 3 colors screen. OS will not boot, it just star at 3 colors screen. How can I run the files Under MicroSD card?? Or the device will automatically run the NBH??
THX
Olipro said:
put a full LVSW NBH (as HERMIMG.nbh) on a MicroSD card and put it in your Hermes
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Penske MB said:
When I power on 8525, it just show 3 colors screen. OS will not boot, it just star at 3 colors screen. How can I run the files Under MicroSD card?? Or the device will automatically run the NBH??
THX
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call it HERMIMG.nbh and it will

Hi,
It is starting now and I will post the result soon. If it works, I will definitely send you my donation!!!
Olipro said:
call it HERMIMG.nbh and it will
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Oli
Thanks foe all your help. I have kept my promise. Please chech youe Paypal account
Now, can you help me why I still have the white screen on Today screen??
thx

Penske MB said:
Thanks foe all your help. I have kept my promise. Please chech youe Paypal account
Now, can you help me why I still have the white screen on Today screen??
thx
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If you read the forum thread associated with the newest LVSH this is a known problem and several solutions have been suggested - read the post and try the suggestions.

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Penske MB said:
Thanks foe all your help. I have kept my promise. Please chech youe Paypal account
Now, can you help me why I still have the white screen on Today screen??
thx
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thanks very much... much appreciated.
have you tried going to the today screen item in settings and manually setting a today image?

Installing google maps and other programs

Is there a sticky on how to install these programs, Im using the 6.1 and phone is synced, just not sure what to do now. Thanks

biglarge said:
Is there a sticky on how to install these programs, Im using the 6.1 and phone is synced, just not sure what to do now. Thanks
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http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html?utm_source=us-et-more&utm_medium=et&utm_campaign=gmm

Thanks, but I meant if Im installing these where do I put them on the phone, also Ive tried several times on the keyboard thing for english and nothing worked. Thanks again for any help on this.

biglarge said:
Thanks, but I meant if Im installing these where do I put them on the phone, also Ive tried several times on the keyboard thing for english and nothing worked. Thanks again for any help on this.
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If its a cab file you're trying to install, copy it anywhere on the phone. Then using file explorer on your phone, click on the cab file and installation will begin.
If its an exe file, these install from your pc through Activesync. On your pc(with phone connected), click on the exe file and it will copy the files to your phone. It will then tell you to check your phone, which will then look like you had just started a cab file installation.
If either cab or exe asks you if you want to install to device or storage card, it should be your choice unless the creator has specified otherwise.
Some files require rebooting the phone after installation. Most will tell you before they reboot, and some creators will tell you its necessary. In this case you should manually reboot it if the installation doesn't automatically do it for you.

just out of curiosity. how did you manage to flash 6.1 on the phone when you are unsure of how to install a simple application?

gixxum said:
just out of curiosity. how did you manage to flash 6.1 on the phone when you are unsure of how to install a simple application?
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Via distructions maybee?
And curiosity killed the hamster.

Thanks Stylez, couldnt have said it better myself, Later

Very confused
Guys, Ive been reading and experimenting on adding programs and have failed. Ive got 6.1 installed, now Im trying to do the english keyboard and install sirius, I put it on the phone and click on the setup it does a bunch of stuff and thats it. Thanks for any help on this

biglarge said:
Guys, Ive been reading and experimenting on adding programs and have failed. Ive got 6.1 installed, now Im trying to do the english keyboard and install sirius, I put it on the phone and click on the setup it does a bunch of stuff and thats it. Thanks for any help on this
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what kind of stuff? like does the phone do backflips or break dance?
be a little more specific man..
for the keyboard go look in the sticky ontop of this forum and download the keyboard file to your pc. plug your phone into the pc and let it sync. then take that file and through activesync > explorer put it on your phone
on your phone, go to where that file is located and just execute it..install to device. then reboot the phone when its done installing.

Stop opening new threads for the same topic...first last warning.
Keep using the same thread.

stylez said:
Via distructions maybee?
And curiosity killed the hamster.
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there are sticky's full of instructions for installing new roms....followed by 1000 pages of the same questions and the same answers.
i wasnt trying to be a jerk.i was honestly asking because id like to know how he installed his 6.1 so we can try to make it a lot easier on n00bs that ask the same questions time and time again. since he seems like a new user, hes the one to ask right?

gixxum said:
there are sticky's full of instructions for installing new roms....followed by 1000 pages of the same questions and the same answers.
i wasnt trying to be a jerk.i was honestly asking because id like to know how he installed his 6.1 so we can try to make it a lot easier on n00bs that ask the same questions time and time again. since he seems like a new user, hes the one to ask right?
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You honestly think hes the one? I didn't think installing cabs was that hard. Put cab on phone, click on it from explorer, and wait just a bit, Done. I really don't think he is the chosen one. In fact, I would venture a guess that it was pure luck he was able to get 6.1 flashed at all. No offense. I nominate Gixxum to be his personal tutor

which is why id like to know how or what instructions he followed.

I didn't think you was being a jerk, infact i found your answer rather commicle, so i had to reply with comedy, i just imagined he followed the forum thread and think from his answer i was correct? But maybe not?
Biglarge what's the answer?
gixxum said:
there are sticky's full of instructions for installing new roms....followed by 1000 pages of the same questions and the same answers.
i wasnt trying to be a jerk.i was honestly asking because id like to know how he installed his 6.1 so we can try to make it a lot easier on n00bs that ask the same questions time and time again. since he seems like a new user, hes the one to ask right?
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Im glad you guys are having fun at my expense, this is how I figured it out. It was posted in this forum, I wish I had the name on it, but I give thanks to ever wrote this and am sorry I didnt have the nameHeres how to beat the 270 error.
When running the installer, "push any key" through the first few steps as it says.
When the queue comes up saying "press center key and screen should turn white", "press any key to continue"
FIRST - press any key, to bring up the next queue
SECOND - now push the center button on your phone, and it should turn white
THIRD - push any key on your PC to start the actual flash.
If you do step 2 before 1, it will still continue onto the flash screens, but will Error 270 at 1-10%.....
Hope this helps some of you!
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This was the little thing that made all the difference for me. I have done my reading. Thanks to alll

Oh and sorry for the second post on same subject .

biglarge said:
Im glad you guys are having fun at my expense, this is how I figured it out.
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Maybe if next time you are more clear with what you are trying to get help on. We can help you.
Error 720 is/has nothing to do with "Installing programs"
Think about it.

That was regards to gixxum, and in my post of installing programs, I clearly stated installing the keyboard and I believe the sirius program. I am sorry for all the confusion. Later

Mikey1022 said:
Maybe if next time you are more clear with what you are trying to get help on. We can help you.
Error 720 is/has nothing to do with "Installing programs"
Think about it.
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I know I use a blackjack, but whats the 720 error?
BigLarge: we're just trying to have fun, did you get your cabs installed?

Im almost afraid to say it, but no, I put them on the phone and it seems to install but nothing after that, I have learned to type with what ever text is on there though.

Hard SPL not working?

So I'm having problems installing Hard SPL (Olinex Unsigned). The phone is connected w/ Active-sync to my computer, and all of those required "steps" to check before you begin flashing were there. It takes just a few seconds for the HardSPL to install, and it says "congratulations...", so I assumed it went well. However, when it boots up, it says NOTHING about Olinex. Instead, when I'm on the boot screen, it has red letters, the lower ones stating my normal ROM build. It looks like:
R 1.00.25.5
G 1.52.29.25.12H
D 1.93 ...
I assume this is the bootloader? I held the lower volume button and hit the soft reset button to get to the bootloader, and that was the same screen it went to. However, then the ROM boots up on the phone, and it's the same intro screen as my initial ROM was. When I proceed with trying to install the HardSPL again, it tells me my current ROM is 1.93.401.2.. not Olinex.' I also tried the SSPLmanual file. No good..
Also, I realized that when I ask for it to update, Mobile Device Center loses connection w/ my phone. Maybe I am just having a problem holding a connection between the two? Activesync is turned on on my phone, and Mobile Device Center says that my phone is connected before the flash.
Has anyone had this problem before, or know how I can fix it? Thanks everyone. I've been looking around everywhere.

TAhsifter88 said:
So I'm having problems installing Hard SPL (Olinex Unsigned). The phone is connected w/ Active-sync to my computer, and all of those required "steps" to check before you begin flashing were there. It takes just a few seconds for the HardSPL to install, and it says "congratulations...", so I assumed it went well. However, when it boots up, it says NOTHING about Olinex. Instead, when I'm on the boot screen, it has red letters, the lower ones stating my normal ROM build. It looks like:
R 1.00.25.5
G 1.52.29.25.12H
D 1.93 ...
I assume this is the bootloader? I held the lower volume button and hit the soft reset button to get to the bootloader, and that was the same screen it went to. However, then the ROM boots up on the phone, and it's the same intro screen as my initial ROM was. When I proceed with trying to install the HardSPL again, it tells me my current ROM is 1.93.401.2.. not Olinex.' I also tried the SSPLmanual file. No good..
Also, I realized that when I ask for it to update, Mobile Device Center loses connection w/ my phone. Maybe I am just having a problem holding a connection between the two? Activesync is turned on on my phone, and Mobile Device Center says that my phone is connected before the flash.
Has anyone had this problem before, or know how I can fix it? Thanks everyone. I've been looking around everywhere.
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I'm under the impression that you are not entering your bootloader screen. Please try this again (soft reset and ASAP, press the vol down button). Keep holding it until you see Red, Green, etc.(rainbow like coloured screen) .... please report back what it says on that screen before we move on.

wow.. I suppose that did the trick. AND it DOES say that it has Olinex on it, so I guess that installed w/o a problem! Thank, I really appreciate the help. Unfortunately, I've heard many different ways to get there (mainly hold vol-down THEN press soft-reset).
One last question though.. Now that I spent a good 30 minutes installing the list of those tweaks, would I really see much of an improvement jumping to a cooked ROM? I was looking at getting AZTOR or Nataly's lite (I'm not asking which one..), but I am not sure how much of an improvement I'm looking at. I'm currently running the stock ROM as 1.93 (I guess I'm running Olinex atm). Now that I've applied all of those tweaks from that one page, is it worth it to jump to a cooked ROM?
Thanks again! That makes my day seem MUCH more successful now.

TAhsifter88 said:
wow.. I suppose that did the trick. AND it DOES say that it has Olinex on it, so I guess that installed w/o a problem! Thank, I really appreciate the help. Unfortunately, I've heard many different ways to get there (mainly hold vol-down THEN press soft-reset).
One last question though.. Now that I spent a good 30 minutes installing the list of those tweaks, would I really see much of an improvement jumping to a cooked ROM? I was looking at getting AZTOR or Nataly's lite (I'm not asking which one..), but I am not sure how much of an improvement I'm looking at. I'm currently running the stock ROM as 1.93 (I guess I'm running Olinex atm). Now that I've applied all of those tweaks from that one page, is it worth it to jump to a cooked ROM?
Thanks again! That makes my day seem MUCH more successful now.
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Hi I would not to back to a stock 1.93 rom even the stock 2.03 rom is a lot better in my option.

cobbs said:
Hi I would not to back to a stock 1.93 rom even the stock 2.03 rom is a lot better in my option.
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haha, so you recommend I go ahead and push my luck w/ a 2.03 cooked ROM? Will I really have to worry about all of those tweaks, or will they already be optimized in the cooked roms? Again, I'm looking at 2 that are based off of performance, so I can expect they'll already be well-tweaked, but I'm new w/ all of this.

TAhsifter88 said:
haha, so you recommend I go ahead and push my luck w/ a 2.03 cooked ROM? Will I really have to worry about all of those tweaks, or will they already be optimized in the cooked roms? Again, I'm looking at 2 that are based off of performance, so I can expect they'll already be well-tweaked, but I'm new w/ all of this.
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Hi I would but thats me. yes these roms are tweaked for performance.
make sure you have read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
warning once you start to flash some roms it is hard to stop.

Hi have a look here to flash from the internal storage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3287426&postcount=10

Lately I keep like 4 cooked roms in folder on my internal storage and when I feel the need to try a new rom I just copy it to root, change name and install OS from bootloader (volDown, backButton, resetButton).

That is my identical process. Sometimes they never make it to the flashing stage but always a couple on standby...lol

Big Mistake!!!! Help

Apparently I installed the wrong Energy ROM into my Sprint, I was setting myself to do so when my wife came and distract me so I entered the wrong thread, downloaded and installed it!!
Anybody can give a north!! Please!!
Thanks,
Eladio

eladiogomes said:
Apparently I installed the wrong Energy ROM into my Sprint, I was setting myself to do so when my wife came and distract me so I entered the wrong thread, downloaded and installed it!!
Anybody can give a north!! Please!!
Thanks,
Eladio
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First I would say bad idea blaming your wife in print. That only spells trouble for you later.
I would say take the SD card out, place a CDMA-based ROM on it, put it back in, go into bootloader, and reflash from the card. NRG doesn't cook radio's into his ROMS so you should be good with just an OS flash.
And just in case you don't know how to flash from SD.
1. Unplug USB cable (not necessary, but KISS)
2. With the phone off, press and hold the vol down rocker then press the power button
3. You'll see the rainbow boot-up, then from there just follow the commands on the screen.
4. After is says Upgrade complete (or something similar, it'll be white text in a blue box in the middle of the screen), press the reset button.
Voila.
Hope this helps.

eladiogomes said:
Apparently I installed the wrong Energy ROM into my Sprint, I was setting myself to do so when my wife came and distract me so I entered the wrong thread, downloaded and installed it!!
Anybody can give a north!! Please!!
Thanks,
Eladio
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Man up and take responsibility for your own actions, Eladio.

eladiogomes said:
Apparently I installed the wrong Energy ROM into my Sprint, I was setting myself to do so when my wife came and distract me so I entered the wrong thread, downloaded and installed it!!
Anybody can give a north!! Please!!
Thanks,
Eladio
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I'm wondering just what excatly she was doing to distract you so much that you would flash a GSM ROM on your CDMA device.....

Just follow the instructions in the second post. Next time try to use a proper thread title. "Big Mistake!!! Help" Really doesn't help you any faster!
I could make a small joke about your post but I'm not gonna... ....today....
This thread will probably be closed very soon. You better search before blaming your wife next time

eladiogomes said:
Apparently I installed the wrong Energy ROM into my Sprint, I was setting myself to do so when my wife came and distract me so I entered the wrong thread, downloaded and installed it!!
Anybody can give a north!! Please!!
Thanks,
Eladio
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You are lucky you only temporarily lost the phone. Other people have worse experiences.
That aside it is easy to fix as mentioned above just put the cdma rom nbh file on the root of sd card and make sure it is called RHODIMG.nbh and then enter into boot loader. The rom will install automatically and you will have your phone restored

cr1960 said:
I'm wondering just what excatly she was doing to distract you so much that you would flash a GSM ROM on your CDMA device.....
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Please post pics!!!

kimtyson said:
Please post pics!!!
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lmao...its musta been good

tmotp2jc said:
First I would say bad idea blaming your wife in print. That only spells trouble for you later.
I would say take the SD card out, place a CDMA-based ROM on it, put it back in, go into bootloader, and reflash from the card. NRG doesn't cook radio's into his ROMS so you should be good with just an OS flash.
And just in case you don't know how to flash from SD.
1. Unplug USB cable (not necessary, but KISS)
2. With the phone off, press and hold the vol down rocker then press the power button
3. You'll see the rainbow boot-up, then from there just follow the commands on the screen.
4. After is says Upgrade complete (or something similar, it'll be white text in a blue box in the middle of the screen), press the reset button.
Voila.
Hope this helps.
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Well, I agree with this causing problems... I was so desperate I wasn't thinking!!! BIGGER MISTAKE!!!
Regarding your instructions it was just perfect, I actually struggled about 3 more hours and none of the ROMs I had/downloaded were working, I thought I really screwed bad... after some more search I found what was happening! The MicroSD card that came with the phone is formated FAT and not FAT32, therefore everytime I was trying it wasn't finding the ROM...
Anyway, all is working now, thanks a lot for the quick response yesterday!

Guys, you're so funny, and helpful too!
I better don't go into details of what she was doing...
I'll do my homework next time, tks for all help!