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does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?
jtoyz2 said:
does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?
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My question is...when will an unlocked version that will work on At&t's 3G networks be available.
Would an unlocked T-Mobile version work on At&t's 3G network?
t-mobile runs on a different highspeed 3g band than att so as the international version...att need 850 and 1900 highspeed 3g band...of course the tmobile and international version would work but edge be the max connection you would get
T-Mobile's 3G (AWS) runs on 1700mhz/2100mhz (up/down)
ATT's 3G is 850mhz/1900mhz (up/down)
EDGE is somewhat universal, will work on both networks
There are rumors of a version of TP2 that has all US 3G bands? (850mhz/1700mhz/1900mhz/2100mhz)
- highly unlikely....
im just guessing but, tmobile touchpro 2 coming out in july my prediction is ATT will have theirs anywhere between august to november...thing with ATT they dont announce or preview any their phones until the release...only big promotion i remember they did for a phone is iphone. i dont care if they change the keybord to FUZE style fn i just want the phone on ATT sooner than later. Highspeed internet is very important, cause people using these type of phone mainly use it more than just phone calls and sms....
jtoyz2 said:
im just guessing but, tmobile touchpro 2 coming out in july my prediction is ATT will have theirs anywhere between august to november...thing with ATT they dont announce or preview any their phones until the release...only big promotion i remember they did for a phone is iphone. i dont care if they change the keybord to FUZE style fn i just want the phone on ATT sooner than later. Highspeed internet is very important, cause people using these type of phone mainly use it more than just phone calls and sms....
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qft.............
AT&T Touch Pro 2
jtoyz2 said:
does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?
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My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.
douggrif said:
My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.
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how can you preorder the tilt 2?
Ahh, December, don't say that! October 6, or I just might not make it!
I'm so completely done with this Tilt it's not funny!
godefroi said:
Ahh, December, don't say that! October 6, or I just might not make it!
I'm so completely done with this Tilt it's not funny!
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I too am hoping for October. I can't wait for December ^^
I finally sold my Tilt on ebay because I couldn't stand it anymore. In the beginning it was a great phone but over time of course the signal went to crap (at least where I am at). I posted an honest auction and it sold quickly. Now I have a Samsung Eternity as a backup phone until the Tilt 2 comes out. I soooooooooo miss Windows, GPS, Voice Command..etc...so if I have to wait anything more than the first two weeks of October I am going to scold AT&T and hold a grudge.
Who the hell cares about their stupid bloatware...don't add it. I don't need teaser trials of stupid games and apps. If I want them I can install them myself.
I saw a writeup of the Verizon TP2 that said it supported GSM.
From their Website...
EV–DO, 1X RTT capable (Rev. A capable); GSM Quad Band (GSM/GPRS/EDGE); UMTS/WCDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA
Does that mean you can drop in a ATT sim and you are off and running?
douggrif said:
My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.
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I am tired of AT&T, all the other big guys has release it, and them keep the silence...
I am going to verify if the sprint one (wich has a Sim card) can be unlock... any one here knows that???
the new ATT rebate form is gonna be online 09-20 so lets see if the tilt 2 gonna be on that list...if so we are ready to hit that order button. but i agree i would but very piss if its a december release.
I considered a T-Mobile TP2, but I don't want that awful keymap where I'd have to shift constantly for every bit of punctuation. Waiting for the Tilt 2.
PRTEQ said:
I am tired of AT&T, all the other big guys has release it, and them keep the silence...
I am going to verify if the sprint one (wich has a Sim card) can be unlock... any one here knows that???
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both sprint and verizon have a sim slot for international use if you travel...it can be unlock but most u can get it edge for ATT im not sure about tmobile.
im not sure how the flashing and installing custom rom will work on spring and verizon eventhough its clear they run on cdma but it also has sim slot running on gsm so i dunno if HARD SPL will work on it...ill just wait for ATT
Wow - looks like everyone is about to come out with their version of the TP2. The question for me now is - who to sign up with? What are the pros & cons of CDMA vs GSM versions? I've read about bad customer support with Sprint. Who's got the better (stable, coverage, speed) network? Any incentive to go unlocked?
Thank you!
I'll be getting one w/ tmobile usa because of the plan prices, great support, and GSM any where in the world!!
im going with Verizon,, im a sales man, and i need a reliable network.. if i dont get any signal i will lose clients. so im going with the best network in the US. you want the best you have to pay for it.
Lw00d said:
im going with Verizon,, im a sales man, and i need a reliable network.. if i dont get any signal i will lose clients. so im going with the best network in the US. you want the best you have to pay for it.
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Personally I never lose reception in the U.S but I guess it all depends, so that is a good reason to go with Verizon, but I am gonna get it for T-mobile cause of an existing contract, otehr wise I think I would want to get it for [email protected]
If you want a weakened and crippled phone with horrible customer service then Verizon is definitly the way to go.
If you want a Touch Pro2 that works worldwide, that can be unlocked to any network, then go with AT&T or T-Mobile. Personally, I would go with AT&T as they have a larger 3G coverage throughout the US.
atomixpaintball said:
If you want a weakened and crippled phone with horrible customer service then Verizon is definitly the way to go.
If you want a Touch Pro2 that works worldwide, that can be unlocked to any network, then go with AT&T or T-Mobile. Personally, I would go with AT&T as they have a larger 3G coverage throughout the US.
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I tend to agree, I am an ex- verizon guy and had to deal with the slow phone deliveries, dumb down hardware issues(Thank God for XDA) as well as the CDMA not in use with the majority of the rest of the world.
If you need world wide connectivity and the best US 3G, Att is your best bet, but to be honest who deploys first tends to win. I guess the race is on.
Price, world-wide connectivity, un-crippled phone features, and customer support all point to Sprint as the best choice for someone about to choose a carrier for the first time and wanting the TP2.
The reports you've read about Sprint's CS are BS. I've been with them for 3 years and have had many opportunities to work with customer support and have walked away from the experience satisfied and better off every time. They clearly have been and continue to work hard to turn around a bad customer service department, and it's paying off.
Also, in all that time I've not had a single dropped call, save for one area between me and my office that is a "dead zone" that no carrier apparently covers (I car pool and we all use different carriers. We all drop at the same place).
I vote for Sprint. Better data network than ATT and T-Mo combined plus i read that Sprint's version is going to be dual mode (CDMA/GSM 900/1800?).
So you get good CDMA coverage in the States and when abroad, pop in a SIM and use a local GSM network. Works for me that way.
First of all, the Sprint and Verizon versions ARE global. They are CDMA and GSM. Get it straight people.
I have been with Verizon since before they were Verizon, and I have had absolutely ZERO issues with customer service, billing, phone replacement, coverage, dropped calls, etc. That is also having lived in 2 different regions of the country in that time.
I agree, they're sometimes slow to release phones, and hopefully the TP2 crippling isn't reminiscent of the TP1, but we'll have to wait and see. It all comes down to the best network in your area. In mine, Verizon is hands down the best, followed by AT&T second, a tin can with a string 3rd, and Sprint 4th.
Sprint. CDMA
zeo2k said:
Sprint. CDMA
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Yes, Sprint is CDMA, and the Touch Pro2 for Sprint and Verizon will be dual mode (CDMA/GSM).
im an existing tmo customer (very happy with their service) and am craving to get tp2, but willing to switch to at&t since my contract with tmo has expired and i might get a better price at at&t as a new customer
sprint .. eh .. not sure, maybe
would be great if someone could do an in depth side-by-side comparison of these companies, like prices, features, extras ..
for example, i found out that at at&t and sprint you get to listen to pandora for free, but not on tmo, also engadget figured that at&t has better 3G than others, stuff like that
in general, question stands - tmo, att or sprint?
well, the CDMA phones cannot use voice and Data at the same time. so that's a big deal.
coverage and network speed vary largely depending on area. and nobody knows what the phone will cost yet through any of the carriers.
good, something new, kinda rules out sprint
hihik said:
im an existing tmo customer (very happy with their service) and am craving to get tp2, but willing to switch to at&t since my contract with tmo has expired and i might get a better price at at&t as a new customer
sprint .. eh .. not sure, maybe
would be great if someone could do an in depth side-by-side comparison of these companies, like prices, features, extras ..
for example, i found out that at at&t and sprint you get to listen to pandora for free, but not on tmo, also engadget figured that at&t has better 3G than others, stuff like that
in general, question stands - tmo, att or sprint?
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tmo hands down.... check billshrink.com to compare all four carriers (its not endorsed by any carriers by the way)
Hope this isn't a thread hijack.. what's the scoop on ROM support for CDMA versions of HTC phones? (I see the posts about TP2 being CDMA+GSM)
I've been here flashing ROMs for 8125/8525/8925, but always had a GSM version... and have really NOT noticed ROMs for the CDMA flavors of those phones..
Sprint appears to offer me the best price for a family plan with 2 data phones + messaging (~$130 vs. $170/month if I've got my info correctly), so I'm thinking heavily about dropping ATT after ~8 years... but wanted to be sure I wouldn't lose access to all the fantastic ROMs from XDA.
Lw00d said:
im going with Verizon,, im a sales man, and i need a reliable network.. if i dont get any signal i will lose clients. so im going with the best network in the US. you want the best you have to pay for it.
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i second this!! no substitute for getting service everywhere
ckeegan said:
Yes, Sprint is CDMA, and the Touch Pro2 for Sprint and Verizon will be dual mode (CDMA/GSM).
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but isnt GSM mode disabled? I thought that it was disabled and there was no way to enable it... but then again im not completely sure.. but will it even have a sim card slot?
ckeegan said:
Yes, Sprint is CDMA, and the Touch Pro2 for Sprint and Verizon will be dual mode (CDMA/GSM).
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sorry duplicate post
Any news on release dates for the different carriers?
I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
quedogf94 said:
I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
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Here's my opinion, having a Touch Pro2 with Verizon. First of all, the ONLY thing I heard you mention in the pro column for the Tilt 2 is 6.5, which obviously Verizon will have via official ROM (I personally would be surprised if it's not out within 30 days) or cooked ROM. So, that almost becomes irrelevant. So, you can only really compare hardware and network. I think it's obvious that Verizon's TP2 wins in hardware with the 3.5mm jack and far superior (IMO) keyboard with dedicated number row. I can think of a single hardware advantage of the Tilt 2. Ok, so then network. I don't know where you live, but where I live AT&T is virtually useless compared to Verizon. Check the network maps in your area, or do the whole trial period and find out for yourself.
On sidenote into the future, I personally think Verizon's LTE rollout will be much faster than AT&T, so that is something to consider as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
orb3000 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
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I personally think that thread is irrelevant because it was created prior to Touch Pro2 availability in the US (well, t-mobile launched 2 days prior, but they don't count).
I mean seriously, the poll was created 3 weeks before Sprint's TP2 availability, 4 weeks prior to Verizon, and more than 8 weeks before the Tilt 2 was available.
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Just to know what is members preferences when choosing a model of (Rhodium) TP2.
Mods please give your opinions
I tried both and decided to stay with the Tilt2. I get faster data speeds on the Tilt2 here in Minneapolis, the voice quality on the Tilt2 seems better as well and you can be on a call and surf the web at the same time when you are in 3G. There are also numerous reports over at ppcgeeks.com of the Verizon TP2 getting stuck in 1X, although that only happened to me once and a soft reset fixed that. Lastly, the hardware keys on the front of the Tilt2 are much easier to push in than on the Verizon, somewhat weird.
quedogf94 said:
I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
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I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
^^^ I read about that in the newspaper...
Can it even be done hardware wise? my wife just broke her 8925 and ironically enough we just switched services from t-Mobile to ATT (I knew I was going to lose 3g, however I thought someone with t-mobile would be more receptive to a trade offer of ATT Tilt2 and give them a Touch Pro2, which I might add is sim/cid/sec unlocked. Exact same phone and they would get T-Mobile 3g on theirs and I would get my ATT 3g and I would be happy, but not a single taker.
Anyway Can this be done? If so how? I have the 8925 dissasembled down to the mainboard already, my spare tp2 is sitting next to it, I will take pictures of every step if this is possible to do so it can be used for reference later.
Thanks in advance guys.
I currently own a note 2 L900 sprint version flashed over to boost mobile. Right now I have it on ebay. I want to get one I can use with straight talk or other gsm providers. I hear it's easy to get the ATT version on straight talk. I also hear the Verizon version can be flashed over to straight talk but idk why if it was unlocked the apn couldn't be added to use straight talk. If anyone can clarify that please let me know. Also I see different versions for Verizon and different versions for ATT. Please help me in deciding the perfect note 2 for me! Thank you all very much for viewing and any input I may get on this. Also being able to go back to boost mobile might be a plus. Where I go Verizon is the best signal but I'm all done with paying such a high bill and only getting squat for data. Also I would like to add Sprint service sux!
ok, from what I gather the sprint/verizon phones can be used and run on verizon signal. Att and tmobile run on ATT. Anyone know if there's any phones that can be programmed to accept both signals. that would be fantastic. CDMA vs GSM would be the stopper but what about the 4s and it being CDMA and GSM?
jd14771 said:
you will never find a phone in the usa that will run both cdma and gsm. unless you came from the future 0.o
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this is so wrong that its not even funny. ever heard of the touch pro 2? a world phone with pentaband radios and a gsm sim card slot that runs cdma on sprint.
the moto photon was also a world phone as well as many blackberrys.
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