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Send/Receive every 5 minutes?

Anyone know how to send/receive in outlook WM6 every minute? Every 5 minutes seems a bit slow.
Cheers George

Hi!
Why not to use ICQ for so frequent communication?
I have configured send\receive every 10 minutes in ¨working hours¨ and every 1 hour for ¨non working hours¨.

Sorry, ICQ??

Is there any particular reason why you'd want S/R every minute?
It would have a pretty major impact on battery life, and also potentially cost a lot more in data charges, because even if there are no messages, there would be some handshaking/polling
If immediate access to email is needed, you would be better to subscribe to an Exchange Hosted service, giving 'Push' mail, calendar and contacts. Costs about £40 per annum, plus about 4MB data per month for the connection (which is less data than 1 minute polling would use)

I didn't know it can affect battery performance. I use web n walk so data charges aren't really a factor.
I just want to receive emails quicker than every 5 minutes thats all. I don't get this direct push technology email stuff?
I have 4 imap4 accounts set up. Can i use mail2web to make these all push? I want to keep my email addresses, don't want a @mail2web address instead.

Hi all,
Do you know where is the setting in WM6, where to put the PUSH mail address? In WM5 I put there the EMAIL2SMS email address that my operator gave me, and when I receive an e-mail, the exchange server of my operator sends me this special EMAIL, that is received like SMS, that tells my phone to connect to the exchange server and to sync. No need to sync on particular time, or the connection to be always on. In WM5 this option is in ActiveSync>Menu>Schedule>(a second blue link under the "peak times" link).
I don't know I explain this right, but if you ever used this future on WM5, you should know.

efrost said:
Hi!
Why not to use ICQ for so frequent communication?
I have configured send\receive every 10 minutes in ¨working hours¨ and every 1 hour for ¨non working hours¨.
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how can you manage different configurations? i can only select one duration!

mentox said:
Hi all,
Do you know where is the setting in WM6, where to put the PUSH mail address? In WM5 I put there the EMAIL2SMS email address that my operator gave me, and when I receive an e-mail, the exchange server of my operator sends me this special EMAIL, that is received like SMS, that tells my phone to connect to the exchange server and to sync. No need to sync on particular time, or the connection to be always on. In WM5 this option is in ActiveSync>Menu>Schedule>(a second blue link under the "peak times" link).
I don't know I explain this right, but if you ever used this future on WM5, you should know.
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That is an old implemention of 'Push' email, and is not supported now that later WM5 (MSFP) and WM6 supports proper Push email direct to your inbox.
You would need to speak to your provider for more specific instructions.

macmacman said:
I didn't know it can affect battery performance. I use web n walk so data charges aren't really a factor.
I just want to receive emails quicker than every 5 minutes thats all. I don't get this direct push technology email stuff?
I have 4 imap4 accounts set up. Can i use mail2web to make these all push? I want to keep my email addresses, don't want a @mail2web address instead.
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Fair enough about the Web'n'Walk
There will be a battery hit, though I'm not sure how much.
To keep your own email addresses, you would need to pay for a Push Email subscription, and even then, I think you can only use one of your own addresses, so probably not for you.
It might be an idea to look into WebIS Flexmail. Apparently it can handle push using IMAP accounts. There is some info Here in a thread on 4WM. Towards the bottom are some posts by Alex of WebIS explaining it.

why don't you try those push services like http://live.mail2web.com/ ?

ww2250 said:
why don't you try those push services like http://live.mail2web.com/ ?
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or emoze at www.emoze.com

application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

Email auto delete?

I have searched, but can't find an obvious solution to this yet.
When downloading emails to the TP2, I continually get a problem. I receive part of the mail (first 5k for example), then click to download rest of the mail and click send & receive on the inbox again. The TP2 then sees the email as 'read' and deletes it - before I have chance to see the remainder of the mail.
Is there a setting somewhere to prevent this auto-delete (at least until I've read it!)?
Cheers,
Jim.

The reason the mail gets deleted is probably because you have set up your email account as POP3 account. If you use IMAP, you won't have this problem...

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The reason the mail gets deleted is probably because you have set up your email account as POP3 account. If you use IMAP, you won't have this problem...
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Is it possible to change an email account from POP3 to IMAP? I always assumed that was down to the ISP to determine the type of account?
Or are you suggesting I find an alternative provider?

It doesn't matter whether it's a POP or IMAP account - it shouldn't auto-delete messages.
I had 3 accounts set up at POP3 and all was fine - I leave the setting to keep them on the server when deleting them off the phone so I can still download the messages when logging on at home with my computer.
However, since a hard reset to sort a few other problems I've been experiencing this 'auto-delete' phenomenom - I get an mail and read it WITHOUT deleting it yet next time I look the message has gone - it's not even in the 'deleted' folder.

You can also set your account to download the full message. Maybe you have set your setting to download the first 5k. It can be done by the advanced setting of your account.
Succes
Duckie

wilkhaven said:
It doesn't matter whether it's a POP or IMAP account - it shouldn't auto-delete messages.
I had 3 accounts set up at POP3 and all was fine - I leave the setting to keep them on the server when deleting them off the phone so I can still download the messages when logging on at home with my computer.
However, since a hard reset to sort a few other problems I've been experiencing this 'auto-delete' phenomenom - I get an mail and read it WITHOUT deleting it yet next time I look the message has gone - it's not even in the 'deleted' folder.
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I'm glad its not just me!
I have it set to only download the first 5k, and then it works OK - until I get mails smaller than this or try to download the rest of the message - at which point it deletes them off the device AND the server - before I've read them.

I had all accounts set to download the whole message and attachements and to leave them on the server when deleted - yet they were auto deleting off the phone and from the server.
I have now set them as IMAP, but have to remember not to delete them off the phone before getting them downloaded onto my PC - not ideal!

I can read my email before it is deleted but the mail in the inbox mail disappears and doesn't show up in deleted folder (as mentioned above). I have my Tilt2 set to leave mail on the server so I can get the same mail on my desktop computer. I assume that the mail "disappears" from the phone inbox when it goes off the server to my desktop.
My "fix" is to move anything I want to keep on my phone to a "Save" folder. Yes it is a PITA but at least for some important stuff, it remains on the phone til I want it deleted.
Hope this helps someone.

Why doesn't whole message download
I have set my email accounts to download the Whole Message and all attachments. However, when I log on I get the message header only and a comment that the whole message will be downloaded next time I logon. I have to come out of the account, logon again and select "Send/Receive" A bit irritating. Is this normal?

How to disable google push mail

Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.

alegator23 said:
Hi Guys
Have some question
In order to use the market i had to define google email account.
I don't want to work in the push mode with the google email, so i disabled the google sync through "Accounts & sync", but i want to receive google emails every 4 hours.
So i defined the google email account under Mail and defined to receive email every 4 hours.
Problem:
The problem is that because the Google sync is disabled i can not get the google emails every 4 hours.
Question:
Is there any solutions to disable the push google mode and work with 4 hours
email check.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Not too sure, but I would think receiving email every 4 hours would still require it to be running in push mode? Which would explain why you need sync to be turned on.
Not 100% sure, and would be interested to hear other opinions or solutions to your problem.

In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....

have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....

alegator23 said:
In addition i put attention on additional issue,
When my Google sync is ON i receiving emails in push mode to the gmail application , and the strange issue that these emails are not updated on the "MAIL" screen (where i configured the gmail account).
Hope the issue is clear ....
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I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.

rhedgehog said:
have you defined the gmail app in the mail app as POP, IMAP or Exchange?
DOn;t use POP.
But the sync in Gmail and the mail app should not be related to each other whatsoever. Mine works fine when i set it up to IMAP.
of course, make sure you have always on mobile turned on and have the internet enabled, otherwise all should be gravy....
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Of course the mobile connection is turned ON. (common )
The gmail accoun in the mail app is configured as IMAP.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks

midamsax said:
I actually get notifications of emails much faster in the Gmail app than I do in the default Mail app. Gmail would instantaneously notify me of any new mail as soon as one is sent. For the default Mail app, it takes at least 5-10 mins before it does that.
I'm not sure if it's because for the default Mail app, the shortest interval you can select for receiving data is 5mins, but for the Gmail app, it's either turned on or off, which might make it instantaneous.
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This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).

alegator23 said:
This is the issue that i don't want to use the push ( which is the fastest way to receive email), i just want simple gmail configuration which will connect to the mail server every 4 hours and download the messages.
BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I think for the Gmail app, it has to be push. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to use the default Mail app, sync to your gmail account, and set the retrieve interval to be 4 hours? That would solve your issue, would it?

Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).

Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?

Eggcake said:
Did the same. Just create an Exchange Acc - Sync every X mins/hours (or Push if you want to).
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Pardon my ignorance, but how do you create an exchange account for google?
*Update*
I found some good instructions here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138740
It's for the iphone but applies to android as well

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BTW the push requires much battery use (not sure).
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I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.

patasenko said:
I dont think this is true, due to push email, makes the server from google to basically push email, if there is no email, it doesnt use internet every 4 hours to connect to google server to look for new mail therefore saves battery, while downloading 1 by 1 when they come is equivalent to getting a lot of email at once, for example 1 email every hour = 4 email at once every 4 hours.
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I am not sure it's correct if you gets everyhour 1 email and you need to download it every hour, then i think it's better to connect once and download all the emails (once in 4 hours). But it's not important, i just want to be able to configure the mobile phone according to mine requirements.
Thanks for the respond.

The main reason to disable the push mail, is to disable the night emails.
Is there any possibility to disable the push during the night.
Thanks

Help!!! Email (MS Exchange server) wont push or auto download!

So I set up my email on the TP2 and everything works ok except for the fact that I have to click on Send and Receive to retrieve my email! I have another Gmail account that downloads every 5min but the Exchange account does not have that option and the mail is not being pushed to my TP2. Any ideas? or is there a way to set the MS exchange account to also auto dl every 5 min??

oh forgot to mention that my iphone has no issues with the mail being pushed to it

jasonviper said:
So I set up my email on the TP2 and everything works ok except for the fact that I have to click on Send and Receive to retrieve my email! I have another Gmail account that downloads every 5min but the Exchange account does not have that option and the mail is not being pushed to my TP2. Any ideas? or is there a way to set the MS exchange account to also auto dl every 5 min??
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If you are having your device connect every 5 minutes, this is not push e-mail. This is called pull e-mail. Push is when the server side sends the mail to the device. Pull is when the device connects, checks and grabs new mail. Pull is more resource intensive and drains the battery much faster as a result. Push isn't determined by the device you are using, but by the service you connect to. If your exchange account isn't supporting push, then the device won't either.
As for your iPhone doing push, it isn't the same. Apple maintains an IMAP connection to the mail account for you on their servers and push new mail to you when they see it.
This is a VERY simplified explanation of what actually happens, but hopefully you understand. An easy alternative to having a similar push experience to your iPhone is to use SEVEN. It works in the same manner I described. They check your e-mail for you, and push it to your device when new mail arrives.