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8GB MicroSDHC Card

Hi -
I purchased the 8GB MicroSDHC card from Verizon a week ago. It worked fine on my AT&T Tilt for a few days and than it lost all information! Fortunately, I was able to restore from backup, and it seems to be OK again. Here's the strange part: even though the original files and directories are gone, the card still counts them in used memory. I.e., the used memory is about 200 MB more than it should be, the amount of space I was using before the card crashed. This applies whether I check the memory on the device, connected by USB, or with the Card Adapter that came with the card.
Any ideas what might be causing this and how to recover the used memory short of reformatting the card?
Thanks!

If you could tell us what you did for it to crash it would help
You probably tried to partition it or something...?
Looks like you will have to format the whole card.
Maybe there is a simple way to do this but here is how i would do, if it helps :
- install WM5Storage on your PDA main memory
- start wm5storage with the option memory card and connect your PDA to your PC
Activsync then wont be sync'ing and your memory card will be seen from your PC as an USB-key. Open it on your PC and check to make sure it is your memory card that you see (and not your PDA main memory).
Then use whatever format tool to format your "USB key" with FAT like format, for example you can use HPtool (be carefull to format the key and not another drive !!!).
After this do not forget to turn off wm5storage, otherwise you will not be able to "see" the memory card on PDA side...
Hope it helps, let us know...

by the way maybe you could try this :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I've used it sometimes when i had started to format a hard drive instead of an usb key by mistake.
Windows was asking for formating everytime i wanted to open the hard drive folder. However, using this Testdisk tool, i was able to mount the hard drive and recover everything including my photos and music and stuff... Maybe you want to try this awesome tool, plus it is free and OpenSource.
Use wm5storage tool to use your PDA as an usb-key, then use Testdisk on this usb-drive, it might be able to see, list and recover all the "lost" files and heal the whole partition at same time.

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll post again when I have the chance to try them -

No luck
Had a similar problem with my Kaiser (HTC Rom). Yesterday I did something (don't know if it was memmaid - my guess, because otherwise I just installed some cabs I had previously installed in my Wizard with no problem) and my SanDisk 6 GB MicroSD was completely 'erased".
I just noticed after the Kaiser had created new folders over it (Application Data, Cookies, History and Temporary Intenet Folders). My assumption is that something destroyed my partition table (that's why I suspect memmaid, it may have cleaned something wrong) and now I have another partition over the old one.
I tried file recovery and found 1 GB good of files, but there were 5 Gigs on the card... I really wanted to find "program files" so I didn't have to re-install lots of stuff, but no luck.
Tried Testdisk as suggested above, but it never detects any partition, not even the current one. I guess I will have to reformat it and re-do all stuff.
Well, I may be saying lots of dumb stuff, but that's my guess.
Thanks if there is any possible help in this...

Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?

Guys need advise do you have to do any patch to be able to use 4-8GB mini SDHC card on your PDA?
I have a Asus P535. Have asked their support site and the reply I got is the max supported is only 4GB.

I believe I've read in more than one place that the Kaiser may support up to 32 Gig, which is the MicroSD maximum. But I may be wrong...
Fact is this has never happened with my Wizard and its 1 Gig MiniSD. Now I'm gonna increase backup and cloning so I don't have to reinstall everything...
But I'll check if there is a patch anyway. Thanks.

I am able to use Sandisk microSDHC 8GB can on Asus P535.
But need a micro adapter to miniSD

mbernstein said:
Ah, and when I insert the card via a card reader in my notebook and right click properties, it says 717MB free, which means my old files are there waiting for me (new folders have only 736KB of data)... What to do?
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Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -

Thanks. I tried that at the time to no avail. I did have to reformat, and then reinstall everything... Now I'm using Sprite Backup, so everything including Storage Card is backed up in case this thing happens again.
And/Or said:
Click properties and then click theTools tab. Run Error-checking with both options checked. When you check your card, you will hopefully see a new directory with recovered files. You can then delete them and regain your disk space. This is what worked for me -
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It could be WINXP patch
I have the Sandisk 8G , it came with a small USB reader and all was working fine. However my ASUS W5 laptop also has a built-in SD slot so I installed a patch issued by Microsoft to make it HCSD compatible, and it read and write it OK but then I suddenly got the same problem that you've described here.
The disk goes blank but the files still occupy the space, even attempting to reformat the card in the built-in slot will ignore that space,i.e it shows only 5G card.
But reformatting using the small USB card reader was fine and from now on I only use the cardreader to read and write and everything is OK. In my view the XP patch was causing that problem

Integrity check for u SD card ?

Anyone know of an application that will allow me to check the micro SD card is OK ?
I suspect I have a fault in the card as I had to recopy 2 folders and the PC can't read the card directly.
It would be nice to check first without going through all the backup and restore time (16 gigabyte card).
Thanks, D.

Cheesy Dave said:
Anyone know of an application that will allow me to check the micro SD card is OK ?
I suspect I have a fault in the card as I had to recopy 2 folders and the PC can't read the card directly.
It would be nice to check first without going through all the backup and restore time (16 gigabyte card).
Thanks, D.
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I've never heard of a WM program to do this but you could try putting the card in your pc and using Scandisk command.

elmarko99 said:
I've never heard of a WM program to do this but you could try putting the card in your pc and using Scandisk command.
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Thanks - but the PC does not recognise the card !!
But, you've given my the idea to try it directly from a DOS window using scandisk from the command line.
Thanks, D.

Active Sync?
Will you get access to the (corrupted) storage card while connected your THD with activesync?
Other way to check could provide EasyRecovery from OnTrack and your THD has to be connected in diskdrive mode.
In generell I used a tool named h2testw - which was developed by a German Computer Magazin called CT. http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/h2testw-14-gold-standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/
This is the best one to check physical errors on every externel memorycard connected through USB. It has to be used on a new formated card.

Thank you for the tips I will explore those.
I'm not sure what the problem is. I can see the card via active sync but not via USB style connect.
I can not see the card when I directly connect it via a card reader.
I was able to use a different card OK and reinstall my GPS app (Route 66) which had gotten screwed up by this card "fault".
I'll report back on results ...

Hmm
These two don't work because I can't see the card from the PC (except via activesync)
There is a file called "~Recycled" in the storage card which does not show in the standard pocket pc file explorer but does show up in total commander.
Maybe that is causing a problem - will investigate on google what this is.

Cheesy Dave said:
Hmm
These two don't work because I can't see the card from the PC (except via activesync)
There is a file called "~Recycled" in the storage card which does not show in the standard pocket pc file explorer but does show up in total commander.
Maybe that is causing a problem - will investigate on google what this is.
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Noop - that's not it. Apparently this is just a delete folder from Resco File Explorer. It should not stop the PC from seeing the card.
Searching further ...

same problem here, I am contacting Orange to try to get a replacement. Not sure if its under warranty.

Try Pocket Mechanic for PPC... it has a Scan Disk utility amid a collection of others.
Successfully repaired my micro SD card with this when my HD was having problems reading my storage card some 3 days back.
Good luck!

memory card problem

Hello,
I have now for one week a MDA Varia V (its a brand of t-mobile, but its a copy of this phone i think...)
I have 1 problem with my memory card, he disapear most of the thime when i reading somthing from it.
So let me explain:
When i put music on my memory card true the phone and i want play the music, after some seconds/minutes the music stop playing and in the music player i get first a message that its searching, and after that i get the message that there is no music (get those message in dutch), when i go look for the memory card, they dont find the memory card.
And somthimes the same problem happend when i connect the phone to my pc and select the "hard drive" function, than i putting somthing on the memory card and suddenly the card is away, and when i transfer somthing i get the message that the hard drive is lost, or somthing.
Have sombody the same problem and know sombody a solution for this.
PS: the memory card was in the box of the phone, and i called for support to t-mobile (there always helping with phone related problems) but after on the phone for almost a hour they also dont know the problem and suggest i go search the internet if there more people with this problem and how they solved this.
Sorry for my bad english

RTFM. Your storage card will not be accessible if you connect to your PC as external drive. This is normal.

ohyeahar said:
RTFM. Your storage card will not be accessible if you connect to your PC as external drive. This is normal.
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Euhm when you cant get to your storage card when you connect your pc to it, how do you put data (songs and so) on tho your card?
wat i forget to say above, when i put the card out and back in, or when i restart the phone, everything is normal again (till the problem start from the binginning)

Let me rephrase...
Your storage card is not accessible on your device if it's connected as external drive to your PC. That is, you can't see the storage card if you browse to it using file explorer on your TP2. But you can see it on your PC's file explorer.

yes thats wat i mean, i go to "my computer" i click on my phone and normaly you see 2 "drives" one with the name "/" thats your local drive and one have the name " memorycard" when i go to memorycard and want put some data on it, 9 of 10 sudenly the memorycard is gone after some thime, so the transfer is failing, when i go back to the phone i only see the "/" drive and the memorycard drive is gone, and the only solution is that i take out the memorycard out and put it back in, or to restart the phone.

Sounds like the issue is with your USB cable. Use the original HTC cable and take care to not touch your device after you plug it in. If you still have problems, then you may have to bring it in for servicing. Perhaps the device's USB slot is faulty.

that wil resolve the problem when conect to the pc, but when there is music on the card and i play it on the phone the sd card is also sudenley away. and when i place the music at the device itself isnt that problem, and i use the same (origanal) cable for this.

wlmmusic said:
that wil resolve the problem when conect to the pc, but when there is music on the card and i play it on the phone the sd card is also sudenley away. and when i place the music at the device itself isnt that problem, and i use the same (origanal) cable for this.
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I did have about the same problem in that my HTC would 'lose' the card after a certain - variable - time. I did always have to open the backcover, remove and replug the card and it would work again for a certain time (sometimes some tenths of minutes, sometimes a day).
Meanwhile I found a solution that works: Advanced Configuration Tool (Freeware)
http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/advanced-configuration-tool.php
In the 'Power Management'-section of this program I enabled the 'SD Memory power management' and since then my HTC didn't 'lose' the card again
Maybe this will help you too for your problem

When i start the program i get a error message and a text saying me that the program need a newer version of microsoft .NET compact Framework.
Where can i install this new version?

have found and installed the 35 version form the microsoft website.
after that i install the program and do the settings you told, restart the phone, but have already the same problem...

wlmmusic said:
have found and installed the 35 version form the microsoft website.
after that i install the program and do the settings you told, restart the phone, but have already the same problem...
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It sounds as though you have corrupt files or bad sectors on the SD Card.
Backup all data on the SD, do a full format on pc using default allocation size and copy data back.
This will resolve your issues.
Cheers,
Beasty

[Q] "SD Card mounted as read-only"?

Hi,
I'm posting this issue second time. I have a class 2 SD card with almost 1700mb of ext3 partition. the problem is that my SD turns to read only when accessing some files from my sd card. it says in the notification SD card mounted as a read only and then say "tap" to resolve the card responded unexpectedly.
tapping on it sometimes help if i remove the files that I was trying to access that created the problem. otherwise it mounts it as read only.

Hi, you sure your card is a genuine one? The problems you are having are identical to what I had. Turns out my 32gb card was in fact an 8gb card, and the problem was when capacity was reached it would go to read only. The only way to rectify this was to take the card out, place it in my PC card reader right click on properties of the drive and run the error checking tool. Hope this helps. Got my money back anyway thought £36 was a bit cheap lol! Try writing a large file to the card using your Computer, this should give you an indication if the card is genuine or not.

lewyharvey said:
Hi, you sure your card is a genuine one? The problems you are having are identical to what I had. Turns out my 32gb card was in fact an 8gb card, and the problem was when capacity was reached it would go to read only. The only way to rectify this was to take the card out, place it in my PC card reader right click on properties of the drive and run the error checking tool. Hope this helps. Got my money back anyway thought £36 was a bit cheap lol! Try writing a large file to the card using your Computer, this should give you an indication if the card is genuine or not.
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Card is genuine. I have placed my card several times in my brothers htc hd and formatted it through windows. its almost 8 gb i checked it on windows. last time I deleted a folder which has wiered name as if the folder was corrupted. I deleted that folder n it was running fine again. but its back again.
mine came with telus, so it should be genuine. what does class signify? like i have class 2, what does it mean?

CLass is the speed of read and writes.
I recently had a problen like this it turned out to be a corrupt file in the .secure folder used for apps to sd.

rchatburn said:
CLass is the speed of read and writes.
I recently had a problen like this it turned out to be a corrupt file in the .secure folder used for apps to sd.
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then I guess its because of corrupt files but why is it so often specially when I copy something from windows.

I had this problem once after disconnecting from a Windows PC, simply connect the sd car directly to a computer and run the windows verification tool, it finds the corrupt file and your sd card starts working again

hey i recently had the same problem ,, but i figured it out and this method should work fine...!!
>First of all you should know how this problem has occurred..??,
well the reason is, we all connect the phone to system in usb mass storage mode ,,but while removing we'll only give safely remove in the system and forget to do the same in the phone ,,,trust me this the core for this problem....sd-card cannot be fully unmounted by system ,,, so you have to manually do this by your phone
so if you are using the sense rom ,,after ejecting the disk in the system ,,,in your your phone's notification area
in ''connect to pc'' menu select charging only .....this will completely unmount your memory card .
>if you are using non sense rom ,,"turn off the usb" mass storage
do this every time you connect your phone to the system ..!!!
ok now solution for your problem..
>reboot your phone to recovery mode using rom manager...
>select partition menu
>now select mount usb storage ,,,
>now you have tow options
1. either you backup every thing and format your sd-card (recommended)
or
2.mount your sd-card and check for errors in windows,,,
this should fix your problem ..
remember ,,next time when you are connecting your phone don't direly unplug the the cable..!!

qariboy said:
Card is genuine. I have placed my card several times in my brothers htc hd and formatted it through windows. its almost 8 gb i checked it on windows. last time I deleted a folder which has wiered name as if the folder was corrupted. I deleted that folder n it was running fine again. but its back again.
mine came with telus, so it should be genuine. what does class signify? like i have class 2, what does it mean?
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The Class number represents a multiple of 1 MB/s
So if 2 is written on ur SD card then it means that its capable of a read speed of 3MB/s

>First of all you should know how this problem has occurred..??,
well the reason is, we all connect the phone to system in usb mass storage mode ,,but while removing we'll only give safely remove in the system and forget to do the same in the phone
- Not always true, its happened to me on several occassions when not connected to PC etc... Flickie HD caused mine
If you have a mac the fix is - disk utilities - repair card
Full format I found to be better though

[Q] Files not visible on external microSDXC card

I apologize in advance if this has already been answered and I haven't found it in the forums yet (and the "search" function is temporarily unavailable). I'm crunched for time before I jump on a plane. I figured I'd ask while I continue to search the forums...
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (US - Sprint) and received a Kingston 64GB microSDXC class 10 card yesterday. I was previously using an old 8GB class 6 miscroSDHC card with no problems. I removed that card form the phone, inserted the new card and formatted it (exFAT). The phone had no trouble seeing 59ishGB of the new card.
I removed the new card from my phone and inserted it into my laptop. The phone had created a folder called "LOST.DIR" but other than that the card was empty. I created a folder called "Music" and proceeded to move just under 8GB of music folders/files to it overnight.
This morning I removed the card from my laptop and inserted it into my phone. I opened the "My Files" app and when I opened the "extSdCard" folder there was nothing there. I removed the card and reinserted it in my laptop and the "lost" and "music" files were both available. I removed the card once again and reinserted into my phone and after about 15 seconds or so the phone rebooted. Once the phone powered on it rebooted again. Once it powered on again it rebooted once more and this time it powered into safe mode. Once in safe mode, I checked for the card and low and behold I could see both folders and I was able to play mp3 files from the music folder.
The phone shows 51.06GB of 59.01GB free on the external card, whether in safe or regular mode. Every time I removed the card from the phone or laptop, I unmounted it first. Any thoughts as to what is going on? I've read that Android sometimes doesn't play well with Windows folders, but I've never had a trouble with this on any other Android handset.
Thanks in advance!

Try formatting it as FAT32(lba) and see how the card behaves. There are some clear disadvantages to doing this, but it will be an interesting test.
What OS is running on the Note? Is it rooted and/or running a custom rom?
I vaguely recall a post a while back specific to Samsung devices and Kingston cards...Ill look for it.

NoDataFound said:
Try formatting it as FAT32(lba) and see how the card behaves. There are some clear disadvantages to doing this, but it will be an interesting test.
What OS is running on the Note? Is it rooted and/or running a custom rom?
I vaguely recall a post a while back specific to Samsung devices and Kingston cards...Ill look for it.
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Thanks for the reply! Right before you posted this I think I actually figured it out thanks to an old post from omar300. I tried their method and everything seems to be working now. And you guessed right...the card is now formatted FAT32.
I'm running stock 4.1.2. I'll be rooting it shortly so hopefully things don't break again!
omar300 said:
If you have been having issue with exfat card even after formatting it to fat32 this is probably the solution for you
The 64gb exfat card i have never worked on custom roms no matter what software i used to format it to fat32.
But finally it worked with this one software, Just make sure you follow the instruction correctly.
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First use easeus to delete the partion in 64 gb card.
then Click Start menu, select Run and enter diskmgmt.msc
You need to find the disk with unallocated space. Right click on it and select "New Partition" and follow these steps, clicking "Next"
Enter the maximum size for the Partition Size
Choose assign a drive letter. I used F:
Select "Do not Format this partition"
Click Finish
Now you have a drive letter, this is what we will pass to the formatter
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Now download a copy of fat32format. Extract the EXE file to C:\
Click Start->Run and enter cmd (as admin)
type this - C:\fat32format f:
enter y to continue
Now the sd card should work on phone.
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