Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)
Where have you heard it's officially released? Last I heard it was early next month.
There are leaked copies around and the chefs are cooking 6.5 ROMs. I'd expect the official (free) upgrade to go up on the HTC site some days / weeks after the official release, when the carriers will release their versions is down to them
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Lyian said:
Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)
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6.5 is going to be released officially on October 6th. When the carriers release their own version, it will most definitely be after that date. Also, Microsoft has not once used Windows update for WM, and they won't use it to upgrade you from 6.1.
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so its pretty pointless to even check for updates on that hua.. fair enough.. and i didnt think they would send 6.5 though the update, just thought id check.
And it was porly the leaked roms i found stuff on.
Ahh yea,, Oct6. missed the date on it.
Windows Mobile 6.5 and Marketplace Available Oct 6
It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either
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It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either
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Any links where HTC has mentioned it that they intend to release it on 6th oct for everyone? i am really looking forward for it
Anyone here have a 6.5 ROM that can compare differences with 6.1? I've used 6.5 briefly on a Tilt and I'm not really seeing the benefit besides the bigger icons. TouchFlo with 6.1 on my TP2 seems to be fine to me. 6.5 seems to be a little cumbersom. What's the real benefit of 6.5 anyway? I think I'll skip and wait for 7.
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Big props to kavana and others for their excellent work, but I'm always uneasy about installing unofficial/unintended ROMs. If I knew that an official 6.1 ROM was coming, say within the year, I might stick with 1.33 for now. Are there any rumors or rumblings at all about a possible release date? Or has it been confirmed NOT to be coming?
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Big props to kavana and others for their excellent work, but I'm always uneasy about installing unofficial/unintended ROMs. If I knew that an official 6.1 ROM was coming, say within the year, I might stick with 1.33 for now. Are there any rumors or rumblings at all about a possible release date? Or has it been confirmed NOT to be coming?
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It's coming. When is the question
what is 1.33 and since i have tmobile what apps ext will i be losing by flashing to this 1.33 Rom
Here read the thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354126
I rather install the kavana one than a carrier branded one.
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I rather install the kavana one than a carrier branded one.
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Even when T-Mobile comes out with an official ROM. I wont be upgrading to theirs. Maybe I'll upgrade, if HTC rolls one out.
I'm waiting for Googles OS, personally.
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Even when T-Mobile comes out with an official ROM. I wont be upgrading to theirs. Maybe I'll upgrade, if HTC rolls one out.
I'm waiting for Googles OS, personally.
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Be careful, especially if T-Mobile does not support SDHC cards. The US roms limit you to 2gb. The 1.33 rom allows at least 8gb (I use one).
I can not understand why T-Mobile US does not allow SDHC in their rom, when the actual OEM supplier of their phone supports SDHC with the Dash.
I would think it constrains their sales.
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Be careful, especially if T-Mobile does not support SDHC cards. The US roms limit you to 2gb. The 1.33 rom allows at least 8gb (I use one).
I can not understand why T-Mobile US does not allow SDHC in their rom, when the actual OEM supplier of their phone supports SDHC with the Dash.
I would think it constrains their sales.
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with respect the the SDHC and lack of support. and retro-support via new ROM. As far as marketing is concerned, if they release a new phone that supports SDHC and is more expensive than the DASH i would understand why they would choose not to retro-support SDHC for the dash since people won't be as apt to buy a new phone for the SDHC support if they already have a phone that already supports SDHC.....i don't like it, but i would understand their reasons
4 words
ALL ABOUT THE MONEY
I hope they do come out with the rom soon.
I would upgrade to the cooked roms now, but nobody seems to have dumped the 531.6 that my Dash currently has, in case I don't like the 6.1 rom I would like to go back to 531.6, but looks like I can't do it.
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I'm waiting for Googles OS, personally.
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Are we getting Android on the S620? The pictures of a device running Android look more like an S640.
Back on topic: I will wait for someone to cook up something nice after the official drops.
this thread was started about an official 6.1 release, so we shouldn't get distracted with android.
I'm not sure why you would want a new unproven OS anyway. WM has zillions of applications and works quite nicely. I'll wait for 2 years after android is live before even considering it.
quite frankly I would like an official HTC 1.33 release, which doesn't seem to be around yet.
The Excalibur, although used much in practice isn't high on the support list i think. HTC will put its effeorts into the new devices and not the older ones ...
However I would also like to see an Official 6.1 ROM for it ...
Official release date
Apparently the official release date will be Apr 1.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml
Of course, that doesn't mean there will be an official update on that date or anytime near that date, but since the Dash is still a high profile T-Mobile phone, I'm going to guess it will be released soon.
Also, I had a quick conversation with some Windows mobile people at the MS booth during a recent event, they said to expect a release soon. (His words, 'don't worry, it's not going to be a September release, you'll see it much sooner')
Now that the dust had settled, does anyone know if we will ever get an official upgrade to 6.1 for the S620? It doesn't seem to appear in any of the official microsoft lists
(Thankfully cooked ROMs exist )
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
1 April.
Hmmmmm.
Not to sound cynical but.........1 April.......
I am an ADMIN and I handle frontpage news at theHotfix.net so I do my research i have my sources and OBVIOUSLY I use other news sources, this seems legit, its NOT offical from MS, but a credible source from within MS says thats the date, I dunno, I posted it on my SITE
Hmm. So what do they know about the hard reset issue that nobody else does? April 1?
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
nicknowsky said:
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
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Yeap, but it is the Smartphone edition.. doesn't work for us yet...
I read about it two days ago. I think the article was on www.forteplace.com or something like that.
THE Original SOURCE that Bink used as his news source was POCKET LINT
here is the article http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml
Fallen Spartan said:
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
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ha ha i didnt think about that, you're quick on draw Spartan
Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Yeah, I'm a bit confused by this "news". I've been running 6.1 for a while now (thanks to this forum), but for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1. So in what way was it not already released a while back?
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..... for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1.
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet,. but then again, if we really cared about official, we wont be here in xda devs would we
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet
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It is true, please don't call me a liar just because you haven't seen what I'm talking about. Maybe Orange are shipping leaked ROMs on their phones, or maybe they are a leak themselves. My brother has one, purchased direct from orange as an upgrade over a month ago, that came with 6.1 on it.
WM6.1 > HTC Hermes100/AT&T8525
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
LouMessina said:
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
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I'm a loyal AT&T/Cingular user for years, but im just getting into the PDA section of AT&T so far I like my 8525, but my fav thing is the WiFi, that all I need and use, aside from the occasional phone cal, I just took advantage of a near NEW 8525 for $100 on craigslist last weekend
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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So why not share one that doesn't hard reset every 5 minutes?
Currently using Schaps WM6.1 Beta which doesn't hard reset every 5 mins, and chances are Official release will require a lot of reseting anyhow
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I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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No it hasn't.
Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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Some of us see so many different versions out there and aren't sure which one to use.
I find my official 6.0 adequate, I'm not even sure what I'd look for in a 6.1.
I'd also want it to be completely stable.
Windows Mobile 6.5 phones officially to be released on October 6th!! If you're thinking what I'm thinking, maybe the rumor of an October release of the TP2 on at&t is true. If so, this explains why at&t has been slow to release this phone. As suggested by some on this forum, they were waiting for the official release of 6.5. Click here to read more.
Yeah it definitely seems AT&T was waiting to launch it with 6.5. That's good for the average user who probably never realizes they can update their phone or how to do that. But of course, frustrating for those of us who would have put a custom rom with 6.5 on it anyway
htc leo will be release on October
Good now the chefs can cook whatever build is released.
I think the focus is really on the hardware coming out, there is nothing spectacular about 6.5. Come to think about it, 6.5 has been floating around XDA in all forms since last year. Talk about a lack of innovation.
More info regarding topic:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/01/windows_mobile_6_five_release_market_place/
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I think the focus is really on the hardware coming out, there is nothing spectacular about 6.5. Come to think about it, 6.5 has been floating around XDA in all forms since last year. Talk about a lack of innovation.
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I think the main focus for MS is competing with Apple to put out a product that is finger friendly and contains an app store. For those of us who have been using 6.5 already for a few months the main focus is on the hardware and whether or not the TP2 will be included in that 10/6 release date. I could care less about 6.5.
Hi,
I thought I read somewhere HTC would release this upgrade for the tp2 today? Does anyone know if this is the case, and where to get it? I could not find anything on HTC's site re WM6.5.
Thanks.
Noone knows a thing. Everyone expects the release to be tomorrow. But since some providers are already releasing it today, who knows?
There isn't any hard evidence to say when it's going to come out.
This is on Microsoft's site, hope it makes things clearer
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
Mesquire said:
Wot? No Diamond2 on the list?? Ouch!
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Over the next few months, our partners may release updates to some of their Windows Mobile 6.1 phones. As the updates become available, we’ll add links here that will guide you to the installation instructions on the web site of your mobile operator or manufacturer. If you don’t see your phone in the list below, check back soon—we’ll be updating this page frequently.
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This clarify some things...
I asked htc tech support the 6.5 question. They responded in minutes. That's a response speed I certainly did not expect! Very good, though I'm sure they are fed up answering the same question...
They've advised they are currently dealing with the license packges from microsoft (whatever that means), but no release date was mentioned. Doesn't sound far away though.
Hi,
I have downloaded on HTC Support site an update for my TP2 from Orange.
The file is named RUU_Rhodium_Orange_FR-B2B_1.19.73.5_Radio_Rhodium_3.45.25.14_Signed_Ship.exe dating October 1st 2009....
Can anyone tell me if it's WM 6.5 ? Or just an update of my 1.19.73.3 (51489) WM6.1 ?
Thanks
EDIT : Stupid question after reading at Microsoft that the WM 6.5 availability date is not yet known....
Sorry
The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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The release date for TP2 is Thursday this week.
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Proof please.
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
This is a message on HTC's website:
If you have a phone from Orange or another provider though HTC won't be providing the update (not too sure I have much faith in Orange to provide an update).
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=112024&lang=1033
Availability
The HTC Touch2, Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile 6.5 are available through selected operators across Europe now and will be rolling out to other regions in the coming months. The new HTC HD2 will be available soon with selected operators across Europe, before rolling out to other regions.
Notes to Editors
Customers with an original HTC Touch Diamond2 or Touch Pro2 will be able to update their phone via a new ROM which will be available from HTC’s website in the coming weeks at www.htc.com.
nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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Sales reps know nothing. Seriously.
nukleuzN said:
Not possible. I know the Sales Representative for WM Norway. He told me. I have known the release dates for a quite long time now.
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lol well find out soon enough if right.
Well answer on Microsoft site has still not changed..
Last updated October 6, 2009
Phone Manufacturer Expected availability*
Dash 3G HTC Date not yet available
Jack Samsung Date not yet available
Epix Samsung Date not yet available
Omnia 2 Samsung Date not yet available
Ozone HTC Date not yet available
Snap HTC Date not yet available
Touch Pro 2 HTC Date not yet available
Traveler 137 Pharos Date not yet available
* Dates provided by our partners and are subject to change. Update availability not guaranteed.
Check this out.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
I just received it via email.
/\oops the person above me got it too. /\
Did anyone else wake up this morning to a 6.5 update?
No really, I woke this morning and slapped my TP2 to shut off my alarm to be alarmed myself, I had a Windows Update telling me to upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5. I pretty much crapped myself at that point, it started off and gave my the orange installation screen, than after a minute or two it gave me an installation failed message.
After that I frantically tried running Windows Update but the connection timed out continuously. Just wondering if I am the only to receive this?
If this happens tomorrow I promise pictures, but was this an isolated incident? Or did everyone else get this via Microsoft?
As much as I want 6.5, I'm in no rush, the internet is on fire with "6.5 sucks" stories. I personally just want TouchFlo3D 2.5, that twitter integration is calling my name.
/firstpost
HTC sure plays spoil sport - with expectations.
(i know they never told they will release the update on 6th, but when a date was announced by microsoft the two companies should have worked together to release the updates for every phone in their list. This is so not good for their PR).
I really dont see how microsoft expects to win the mobile phone war. By the time they come out with WinMO 7, they will again be miles behind, if all they could manage was a shoddy job at winmo 6.5 which apparently has nothing great to talk about - except IE - and who uses it anyway!)
I stuck to winmo all these years, as 5 years ago it was a good business phone and it also supported bberry.
This year i finally split and bought a bberry as there was no update for TP2 coming for months. - again, its a function of marketing - keep customers happy. I know there has never been a promise by htc on integrating bberry software on winmo, yet, after a point, people start expecting.
Somehow these giants just dont get it when it comes to customer service and marketing. Microsoft has definitely lost a customer the day i split and bought a second phone which is a pure bberry. The next upgrade, i will skip winmo entirely and look at the offerings from android and webos...
live long and prosper microsoft - if u can!....
T-Mobile Germany released the update today:
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_16608-0-8949;CNC-4,00.html
Yes, i've found it too. After uownloading and unpacking i got a file named "RUU_Rhodium_S_TMO_DE_1.85.111.1_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.05_Signed_Ship.exe". With 7zip i've seen, the date of the NBH is 17th of September, don't know which version they used.
But i don't want to have this (i guess) buggy and extremly branded system on my device. I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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I'll wait for an unbranded HTC-release or one from O2(DE), these are nearly unchanged too.
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is it possible to install òne of these roms on a vario V without any problems?
I have the tp2 for tmobile i would like to know if i can get the official upgrade to 6.5. i know that tmobile doesnt plan on releasing an update anytime soon. so i would like to upgrade maybe to the officail uropean version. if anyone could please provide me a link
thank you
you will need to wait until HTC actually releases their ROM....
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
I think it's only good it takes a while longer. maybe we can have some of the touchflow 3d 2.5 abilities extra when the update comes out. Besides the weather.
ariel123 said:
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
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virain said:
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
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ha...remember Tmobile also said that the TP2 was $279.99...then a couple days later they change their minds to $349.99, And they wouldn't even budge for loyal customerssssssss.
Status on Microsoft Web Site for 6.5 update
This URL clearly identifies the Touch Pro 2 as a phone eligible for the 6.5 update but no date available as of yet:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx#phoneList
Yea that list states the tp2 european version is eligible for an update but the tmobile touch pro 2 gets its own update from tmobile and so will other carriers according to the rep I spoke with from the htc hotline I really think that the european version update will come out 1st on the htc website before anyone else
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
the german t-mobile site has the 6.5 update out already. installed it yesterday...
So this update should work on tmobile tp2 usa? And can you provide the link
well i doubt it works in the US and I doubt you would want a german language version hu?
The Update for the german "MDA Vario V" (which is the TP2) is here:
http://www.t-mobile.de/fremdcontent/1,2790,131619,00.html
.... does anyone know if the htc skin in the official 6.5 upgrade will be the same as the sense interface that the HD2 has... with the panoramic kinda view in the pictures tab and all!!?
Well you can change the language but your probably right it probay won't work here