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Is the WM6.1 floating around on the forums derived from official MS release? I searched the various posts as well as on google and couldn't find anything on that.
The reason why I ask this is because looking at the screenshots scattered around the forum I visually atleast, don't see any difference/improvement from our wm6.0
I own a Tilt and I recollect a couple of months back there was a lot of buzz around MS releasing some good enhancements and there was even a much different GUI that was shown in their smartphone platform on MS' own website to which people guessed that it may be coming in wm6.1!!?
Weren't there an official statement on MS WM site of the Tilt and a few select other phones getting the next version of W mobility center syncing with PC plus other enhancements to which all assumed that it'd be WM6.1 ???!!
Can someone shed some light here please! Thanks.
As to whether or not it is an official release, I haven't a clue. But, as to differences, I have noticed several on my HTC Mogul (HTC xv6800, Titan, whatever you call it). Most notably is speed: the device is *noticably* faster running the same problems, and I have run 6 or 7 different ROMs with WM 6 to compare against... it is by far the fastest. Also, on the titan voice command w/ bluetooth headset hasn't ever completely worked, as the verification never worked. All bluetooth functions on my phone seem to be working significantly better.
Other than that, there are a few changes... seems like it's automatically closing certain programs when they aren't used (notably PIE and Messaging) about which I have mixed feelings, but it does tend to make for better memory management...
so there are some improvements. I'm still identifying all of them, since I just flashed the new OS night before last, but there are some definite changes.
I doubt this is the actual WM 6.1 release promissed by Microsoft.
The official 6.1 roms would have some visual "improvements" because of the iPhone. Apple has taken the lead marketshare from Microsoft.
... i think (i might as well be wrong)
the pictures of the fancy shake and such wm version is not 6.1 it's 7 which will not be out untill 2009
Rudegar said:
the pictures of the fancy shake and such wm version is not 6.1 it's 7 which will not be out untill 2009
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i also read somewhere that visually, there is a big difference between the ppc and the smartphone versions of 6.1
yep windows mobile 7 is the one with the whole new gui and finger friendliness on it, but it wouldn't suprise me if they included a few bits in 6.1 just to keep i phone at bay.
Hope its not the official one...
efexor said:
I doubt this is the actual WM 6.1 release promissed by Microsoft.
The official 6.1 roms would have some visual "improvements" because of the iPhone. Apple has taken the lead marketshare from Microsoft.
... i think (i might as well be wrong)
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I certainly hope that this isn't the official MS release as even though like you guys (taxilian) are saying that there is significant speed improvement and tweaks here and there, I'd much rather take some GUI improvements that will allow for more and more functionality with just fingers... I mean a stylus to go tap tap while walking in a park... come on dude!!
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
1 April.
Hmmmmm.
Not to sound cynical but.........1 April.......
I am an ADMIN and I handle frontpage news at theHotfix.net so I do my research i have my sources and OBVIOUSLY I use other news sources, this seems legit, its NOT offical from MS, but a credible source from within MS says thats the date, I dunno, I posted it on my SITE
Hmm. So what do they know about the hard reset issue that nobody else does? April 1?
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
nicknowsky said:
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
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Yeap, but it is the Smartphone edition.. doesn't work for us yet...
I read about it two days ago. I think the article was on www.forteplace.com or something like that.
THE Original SOURCE that Bink used as his news source was POCKET LINT
here is the article http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml
Fallen Spartan said:
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
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ha ha i didnt think about that, you're quick on draw Spartan
Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Yeah, I'm a bit confused by this "news". I've been running 6.1 for a while now (thanks to this forum), but for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1. So in what way was it not already released a while back?
raburton said:
..... for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1.
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet,. but then again, if we really cared about official, we wont be here in xda devs would we
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet
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It is true, please don't call me a liar just because you haven't seen what I'm talking about. Maybe Orange are shipping leaked ROMs on their phones, or maybe they are a leak themselves. My brother has one, purchased direct from orange as an upgrade over a month ago, that came with 6.1 on it.
WM6.1 > HTC Hermes100/AT&T8525
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
LouMessina said:
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
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I'm a loyal AT&T/Cingular user for years, but im just getting into the PDA section of AT&T so far I like my 8525, but my fav thing is the WiFi, that all I need and use, aside from the occasional phone cal, I just took advantage of a near NEW 8525 for $100 on craigslist last weekend
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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So why not share one that doesn't hard reset every 5 minutes?
Currently using Schaps WM6.1 Beta which doesn't hard reset every 5 mins, and chances are Official release will require a lot of reseting anyhow
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I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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No it hasn't.
Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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Some of us see so many different versions out there and aren't sure which one to use.
I find my official 6.0 adequate, I'm not even sure what I'd look for in a 6.1.
I'd also want it to be completely stable.
Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)
Where have you heard it's officially released? Last I heard it was early next month.
There are leaked copies around and the chefs are cooking 6.5 ROMs. I'd expect the official (free) upgrade to go up on the HTC site some days / weeks after the official release, when the carriers will release their versions is down to them
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Lyian said:
Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)
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6.5 is going to be released officially on October 6th. When the carriers release their own version, it will most definitely be after that date. Also, Microsoft has not once used Windows update for WM, and they won't use it to upgrade you from 6.1.
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so its pretty pointless to even check for updates on that hua.. fair enough.. and i didnt think they would send 6.5 though the update, just thought id check.
And it was porly the leaked roms i found stuff on.
Ahh yea,, Oct6. missed the date on it.
Windows Mobile 6.5 and Marketplace Available Oct 6
It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either
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It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either
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Any links where HTC has mentioned it that they intend to release it on 6th oct for everyone? i am really looking forward for it
Anyone here have a 6.5 ROM that can compare differences with 6.1? I've used 6.5 briefly on a Tilt and I'm not really seeing the benefit besides the bigger icons. TouchFlo with 6.1 on my TP2 seems to be fine to me. 6.5 seems to be a little cumbersom. What's the real benefit of 6.5 anyway? I think I'll skip and wait for 7.
I have the tp2 for tmobile i would like to know if i can get the official upgrade to 6.5. i know that tmobile doesnt plan on releasing an update anytime soon. so i would like to upgrade maybe to the officail uropean version. if anyone could please provide me a link
thank you
you will need to wait until HTC actually releases their ROM....
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
I think it's only good it takes a while longer. maybe we can have some of the touchflow 3d 2.5 abilities extra when the update comes out. Besides the weather.
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so much over the excitement of 6.5 being released today
Is there a 6.5 rom from xda that will work with tmobile tp2 with touchflow 3d and the weather icon on the flip clock and not lose my 3g, text, or mms and also not have buggs
Lol I feel like I'm asking for too much
Direct link if possible please......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
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virain said:
spoke to T-Mo USA Tech Support, Thy promise 6.5 upgrade by the end of the year. (I hope)
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ha...remember Tmobile also said that the TP2 was $279.99...then a couple days later they change their minds to $349.99, And they wouldn't even budge for loyal customerssssssss.
Status on Microsoft Web Site for 6.5 update
This URL clearly identifies the Touch Pro 2 as a phone eligible for the 6.5 update but no date available as of yet:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx#phoneList
Yea that list states the tp2 european version is eligible for an update but the tmobile touch pro 2 gets its own update from tmobile and so will other carriers according to the rep I spoke with from the htc hotline I really think that the european version update will come out 1st on the htc website before anyone else
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
Tmobile has absolutely no info about where they stand on the winmo 6.5 update. So if anyone on the phone says it will happen they are just taking a guess. Tmobile has allowed updates before with devices like the dash but they have really ignored their winmo customers this time around since they are trying to push forward with android. The last minute price change on the TP2, the lack of training for the device, and overall confusion around the product has really screwed up what would have been a good launch. Now that we have the marketplace this is completely going to change what we can do and it will in time compete with android and apple. Also I have talked to tech support many times and I am an internal employee and I am pretty disgusted with how they are dealing with customers who have bought their most expensive device. On a positive note I am very impressed with XDA developers and hope to see the official release so I can finally get the update this device deserves.
the german t-mobile site has the 6.5 update out already. installed it yesterday...
So this update should work on tmobile tp2 usa? And can you provide the link
well i doubt it works in the US and I doubt you would want a german language version hu?
The Update for the german "MDA Vario V" (which is the TP2) is here:
http://www.t-mobile.de/fremdcontent/1,2790,131619,00.html
.... does anyone know if the htc skin in the official 6.5 upgrade will be the same as the sense interface that the HD2 has... with the panoramic kinda view in the pictures tab and all!!?
Well you can change the language but your probably right it probay won't work here
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!
fOUND THIS ON MSN!
According to a Microsoft executive, we are set to see the latest version of Microsoft's mobile operating system – the much-hyped Windows Mobile 7 – finally unveiled to the great unwashed at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next month.
It is hardly the most surprising news, as many mobile industry punters were secretly hoping to see the new mobile operating system being shown off by Microsoft at CES this month. But that clearly did not come to be.
Mobile World Congress launch
Entertainment and Devices Division president Robbie Bach claimed that Windows Mobile 7 "things will be talked about at MWC" at the company's Financial Analyst meeting at CES.
"I've seen it and played with it. It will set the bar forward not in (just) an evolutionary way," added Bach.
Bach went on to add that Microsoft plans to be "more engaged" with OEMs in its "go to market approach."
Microsoft clearly hopes to change the shifting emphasis away from Windows Mobile to Apple's iPhone and Google's Android with the latest version of its mobile operating system. We are looking forward to bringing you all the news from the ground in Barcelona next month.
FLYBOY
Sounds good. I'll keep my eyes open! Thanks for info.
I just really hope that Microsoft knows that if this is WM7 is not earth-shatteringly epoch-making, then they are almost all but screwed in the mobile market, and will get torn up. I have been a winmo supporter, but with all thid screwing around recently, it's hard to be optimistic. Most winmo oems are now 50/50 w. android.
Since WM 7 will not be trying to support millions of "older" users from 3 different systems I have high hopes for what MS will be unveiling. I truly feel they can get it done and give us a complete system that functions well, is easy to use and visually stimulating. Why do I feel this? They have done it with Windows 7 and proven it may take a long time, but they can do something "right" for this current generation.
If not - I must agree that they will be dead in the water concerning mobile phones.
Thank you for the updates Flyboy.
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
kholk said:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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YAY!!!!! Too... from another HD2 owner
Even better - maybe the TMobile USA version of the HD2 will come with Mobile 7. Now that would be a coup!
Yes, this info helps the sale of HTC HD2. but just a nut behind Iphone. WM7 will be a geek's toy, and it's all.
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YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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i have to dampen your expectations, but remember 6.5? ANNOUNCED in feb. at this MWC, released in oct.
most sources report wm7 will be released q4 2010.
Guys, he never said it would be released.
Just a public debut, probably a walkthrough of nice new features and other such stuff. Don't get your hopes up about ROM's.
It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
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It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
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a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
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a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
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totally agree with you...really hope that it would be next month. Can't wait to show off to iPhone or android (if only it can)
Microsoft come on, claim back your title in mobile market!!
Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
Don't forget the latest news of Xbox Live coming to Windows Phone (probably WM7 only)!
http://kotaku.com/5445100/xbox-live-officially-heading-for-mobile-phones?skyline=true&s=i
Should i be happy that i will be able to upgrade my HTC VIVA when Win 7 comes, or just see you guys celebrate with faster CPUs ?
Not sure I understand that question right but I dont see why people would want to try to hack WM7 to run on anything older than a HD2, it would be like trying to run Windows Vista (yup not even 7) on an old 486 200 MHz Computer
Im guessing given the minimum spec that even if it did run you would have to turn off so much of the fancy stuff that it wouldnt be worth it in the end.
Thats why 6.5.3 etc is there, to update older phones.
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Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
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WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
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WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
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i understand the reason of 6.5.3/.3 and 7....
my point was, if they developed and changed 6.5 to 6.5.3.3 i personally doubt there just going to ignore it and introduce wm7 at some of these conferences, one/some/all of these conferences are gonna have to introduce the latest 6.5
IMO 6.5.3 = 6.5
The differences aren't THAAAT much. What has changed? Start menu gone to bottom. Small fix in the OS, big results for the user experience. A few very sloppy apps aren't working properly anymore but WFT?? After all not much has changed so I don't think they need to announce it once more.
They'll introduce WM 7!