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Battery always at 100%

Hello,
since last night my Hermes has the battery always at 100%...
I have tried to browse the net for some time thru wireless, listening to music, use the gps functions, but the battery show up always at full charge.
Tried a soft reset many times but did not help... and I don't wanna hard reset it because I've installed black 2.5 since it came out and I have installed all my applications and data.. I don't wanna spend anymore hours to import everything.
By the way.. the only thing new i have installed last night is the jasjamming "buzzing" cab patch.
Anyone had the same problem before?
Thanks

i want your battery, it must be "buzzing"....
seriously though, not sure what has happened here or why it is happening.

haha.. yea right, my battery felt that buzzing effect for sure!
Maybe it will last forever... who knows
The obvious problem is that I just can't know how much battery I have left now... Since none of the solutions I've tried seemed to work (including "buzzing" uninstallation) I think i'm gonna wait till my device goes off by itself, then recharge completely the battery from the AC adapter (I never use it) and see what happens...
I think a HR would solve it for sure cause till yesterday it worked fine... I recharged it as always thru USB

something must have changed in the registry as its not polling the battery level anymore.
what 3rd party apps do u have installed, and
have u made any reg changes yourself?

Hi mates..
First- Jas... thanks for black.. testing since yesterday and I feel almost ecstatic. my rom of choice...
Second- gotta same problem.. batt always 100%. first I though it is caused by this option in htweakc to increase batt life, but I've switched it off... no luck.
I dunno, but when I was testing htweakc on wm5 it didn't let me chose wma ringtones, so maybe this app is a damn bugger??
oh yeah.. one more thing- reporting, that softick card export II is not working properly aswell.. cannot connect as a drive.
sorry for off top and thanks 4 help Jas. keep it up mate.

Hi bronx,
may I know which Hermes you have? Mine is a O2 XDA Trion HTC100.
Last night I did the Hard Reset I was NOT planning to do and guess what, after reboot battery was recognized at 80 percent (so all fine again, I tought) but now its not going down anymore stays stuck at 80 percent.
All this is so strange, 2 days ago it was running all fine... and now even after a HR ... without installing apps, well, I really don't know.
Do you remember what you've done before having this problem?
If you can, try a HR too, and let me know.
Thanks.

well... guess what?? today while I was working my batt went down 10%. heh
I guess it's coming back to normal.. I dunno what causes this weird thing with battery, but I was playing with HTweakC options abit and I switched increase batt life (on) and show batt indicator (on).
seems to be ok since then.
maybe with black 2.5 we get wonderbatt... one week on one charging.. well... that would be great
THANK'S ANYWAY JAS! will donate soon...
btw - I use mda vario II

Different ROMs power consumption

I am using my Hermes as my primary phone, making about 10 phone calls per day, 20 minutes of browsing and PUSH MAIL for one account. I am connected to 3G network with HSDPA support. I am using stock 1300 mAh battery.
I was using Dvha v17 for long time and finishing my day with 40% battery and always thought this is how it should be.
I had some stability issues (lockups) and I have decided to upgrade the ROM.
First, I installed PDACorner v21. Stability of the system was great, no lockups anymore. But, in the middle of the day (about 4pm) my battery was empty. Switching to 2G left me with about 50% of the battery in the end of the day, but I don't like 2G because of the noise it makes to all speakers I am passing by.
Then I installed CRC v13, then PDACorner v23 and still had the same battery life.
This weekend I decided to try Dvha v21 (build 20721) and suddenly my battery is 40% at the end of the day with 3G HSDPA enabled!
On all ROMs I am installing the same set of programs and using the same mail account for push. The only difference is the Dvha is a big storage ROM, while all others I chose NRBSN.
I am always using Advanced Config and enable power management for all possible devices.
I also tried to upgrade radio ROM, but then had to downgrade back to 1.48 which is the best for me. No noticeable change in battery life with different radios.
Switching to 2G will dramatically improve battery life, leaving at least 50% on the end of the day. Disabling push will leave at least 70% on the end of the day.
Can anybody else confirm this? The difference is huge! It's about finish the day or not!
I found some posts saying that with push enabled, charging during the day is normal and usual for some people. I would agree, but now I am holding a device that is able to run all day long on HSDPA and with push enabled! I installed new version Dvha to confirm this.
It could be great if someone will find out what is different in Dvha ROM that improves battery life with push mail so drastically. Other ROMs are still more stable. With the new Dvha version I still have lockups and have to soft-reset at least once a day. I can't afford it with my primary phone. I need 100% stability during the day and I must admit that both PDACorner and CRC NRBSN ROMs are very much stable (thank you, chefs).
P.S. My next experiment will be installing the first non big storage Dvha ROM, which is Dvha v22, build 20748. I want to know if it's related to the big storage.

MRH 8.4 and Faria
I have tested all the ROMS put on successively here. My usage is similar to yours. However, I find Faria Puttingham ROM and MRH 8.4 as best stable roms. CRC gives problems and PDAVIET is just trash for my HERMIS. Rebooting several times means losing data and does not make sense.
Coming to PDA CormerPRO they are as good as MRH. since MRH has stopped development, PDAcoerner is the ROM to stick or just go back to Faria for long battery life. I use HERMIS 300 that is Tmobile MDA vario II. So there may be subtle differences in functioning.
I never got problems with 2G dialer either on my Tmobile MDA. I do not know 3G as this service is not available in my area.
what is the best dialer by the way? that has history and speed dial bottons? thanks
rocksolid

Hmm
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
PS, my day starts at 5 a.m. finishes at 9 p.m.

zocster said:
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
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What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?

ochakov said:
What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?
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My only ROMs so far that I like are CRC and PDA corner on my signature both had the same results

as i known on technical hardware, if we have device an old for 2 years and never change stock battery. we have lost half past more during a day. cause it's not just software related, but hardware also

The main power draws are the old 3G chispset and the backlight on the screen.
Theres only so much you can do with software, this being, as said, a 2year old phone.

1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...

ochakov said:
1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...
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For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's

veyka said:
For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's
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yes I will have to agree with the BS stuff, as with non BS of pda corner and was on CRC's 11.2 I didn't experience any fast draining of what a BS of PCpro or any other roms for that matter.

i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage

tko1 said:
i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage
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As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.

veyka said:
As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.
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good idea, thanks

Power consumption based on storage schema
If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?

After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?

sanfrenchysco said:
If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?
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Arent you too smart not to cook ?

ochakov said:
After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?
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Yep, I hear you mate! That's why I said:"If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the ROM OS image itself.
The part of the OS that makes the most difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed: either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM."
Luckily I have some solutions ... but this will require manual reg. surgery on a per ROM basis until it gets integrated directly in the ROM builds (combination of PwrMgt fixes and ROM access avoidance for the most part).
Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"

sanfrenchysco said:
Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"
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Glad to have U on the Hermes forum! This sounds very interesting and Looking forward to your WM OS tweaks knowledge...

anryl said:
Arent you too smart not to cook ?
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You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.

sanfrenchysco said:
You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.
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Would you mind posting up what you have for us to have a play around with?

Battery eating update winmobile 6.5 !!!

I have updated my tp2 with the official dutch 6.5 rom.
But my battery is eating in a day !! with use.
and no I have no push internet ,wheater or stocks updates automaticly on !!
While with winmobile 6.1 2 days battery time with verry often internet use !
Sometimes its fully loaded en after 1 night ( 8 hours the phone is completely empty on standby !!! en the device is turned off because the battery is completely empty.
How can a phone eating the battery on standby ? doing nothing
sometimes when I locked the phone I see for 1 second a red underlined box but
its gone before I can read the message.
The redunderlined box seems to be identical to the box : cant get "connection" wich you can get when the phone has not a connection.
Please help !
6.5 has a better internet experience.
but the the wheater or stocks tab update sometimes get out of connection even the internet has sometime this problem.
The 6.5 sometimes freezes for 3-4 seconds when locking the phone.
But Overal I must say I want to keep the 6.5 I like it !!
NOW ONLY SOLVING THE BATTERY EATING !!
Has someone the solution or same problems ?

same problem here...
I might have an Idea about the problem
Before the TP II I had the Tytn II. I've updated that phone with manila, and that also drownes my battery. A while later I updated my RADIO, to an older version, and the problems were gone.
So my guess is here:
The standard Radio with the dutch TP2 WM6.1 ROM is not suitable for WM6.5 somehow it drowns the battery very fast.
question is: where to find a (good) ROM?
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second question:
I've opened another topic with the same question. Please concentrate all reply's to 1 topic.
please close my topic with the same question.
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hi one thing to do flash a custom rom sergio cell pro 5.5 rom is good for battery speed stable or any of the ohter roms ngrz fusion shadowline ark try a few custom roms out and see what you like stock rom sucks remember to use hard spl and follow the steps theres a styki thread in rom section how to do this
grtz weesje

Yes ok but I do not want to use hardspell because I lose the garanty from my new phone.

besides that.
HTC is delivering an update for their own product. Don't they have an obligation to make sure that even the battery stays okay?
I don't want custom roms (though I appreciate the work done on Cust.Roms by the XDA users!) because of my guaranty!
but 12 hours with 1 battery is also NOT an option!

Don't know yet if my battery is suffering under WinMo 6.5, but what I do know is that 6.5 uses a lot more RAM than 6.1. You've already disabled pushinternet and here is what youi can do to release even more RAM:
" Trying to relase even more RAM, my search ended at pocketnow.com with an article regarding your cab and they also suggested to perform another registry tweak (via PPCGeeks) to release even more memory. The suggested reg tweak is: “go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy” using a registry editor and change “ShareMemSize” to 0" (on my TP2 it says 391891).
After a soft reste my TP2 starts with 41% of RAM usage instead of 55%. That should save battery life.
regards, kuzibri

Can i have the s/n of someone who has a WWE English phone?
I have a dutch version also..
But i dont want the phone in Dutch..
want to keep it english..
Thnx..
p.s. maybe also the solution to the battery drain?

kuzibri said:
Don't know yet if my battery is suffering under WinMo 6.5, but what I do know is that 6.5 uses a lot more RAM than 6.1. You've already disabled pushinternet and here is what youi can do to release even more RAM:
" Trying to relase even more RAM, my search ended at pocketnow.com with an article regarding your cab and they also suggested to perform another registry tweak (via PPCGeeks) to release even more memory. The suggested reg tweak is: “go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy” using a registry editor and change “ShareMemSize” to 0" (on my TP2 it says 391891).
After a soft reste my TP2 starts with 41% of RAM usage instead of 55%. That should save battery life.
regards, kuzibri
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I am not familiar with a registry editor do you have a link to that program ?

specialist88888888 said:
I am not familiar with a registry editor do you have a link to that program ?
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here you go: http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/

Have you done a hard reset? My Tilt 2 will last almost 2 days in standby with my normal set of programs running, S2U2, cellid (uploads CID every N minutes if changed), aebattery, using Pocket Plus for today screen with Pocket Weather running inside it, etc.
If I enable FlexMail with 2 online IMAP mailboxes and 6 periodically synced boxes, it drops down to 19 hours or so.
Your situation is not normal.

hard reset who knows the buttons I must press ?
volume up - volume down en power button ?
something like that ?

there is another possibility to perform a hard reset (only works as long as you can access your phone):
go to settings - system - (and because your have a Dutch ROM) - go to the item "opslag wissen" (erase everything). This returns the phone to the factory settings, e.g hard reset. It will ask you to enter the password to perform that action: this is 1234.

Some of my battery data for you to compare with your own TP2:
I'm running stock WinMo 6.5.
battery data:
standby time: 22,5 hours
talking time: 3 mins
device usage: 2 hours
remaining battery: 72%
RAM usage: 43%

Hard reset did the job.
pressing green-red-power button and read the message.
pres only volume up and device resetting.
after that I had 30 hours batt life en stil 2 stripe on batt indicator
Oh backup your device before hard resetting !!

maybe I was to fast reacting before ...
I've recharged my battery again. Now, after 30 hours and 31 minutes, I still have 51% battery life left. (with 20% drowning last 3 hours...)
so there's hope!

darkdaan said:
maybe I was to fast reacting before ...
I've recharged my battery again. Now, after 30 hours and 31 minutes, I still have 51% battery life left. (with 20% drowning last 3 hours...)
so there's hope!
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WHAT???? how in the world are u getting this much life out of ur battery...mines dead in about 12 hours with minimal usage

Location Service
Hello. ..Someone tried to turn off Location Service Settings? .. Text there is: "Improve location service by collecting location data at any time when device is in use ...I switch this off and as if the rate of the battery noticeably decreased. .. I try battery tomorrow after a full charge.

Martikn said:
Hello. ..Someone tried to turn off Location Service Settings? .. Text there is: "Improve location service by collecting location data at any time when device is in use ...I switch this off and as if the rate of the battery noticeably decreased. .. I try battery tomorrow after a full charge.
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Where is this? I can't find it, was curious to see what the value is on my phone.

On my phone (i use SPB mobile shell): Settings -> System -> Location Settings and there is Location service

Martikn said:
On my phone (i use SPB mobile shell): Settings -> System -> Location Settings and there is Location service
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No SPB here, but Settings -> System is where I looked, perhaps not in my ROM. No biggie.

Battery life and radio and rom version

hey guys plz post ur battery status here along with the radio version you hav on ur phone
this wud be of great help for future reference for all of us and to select the best Radio version
Plz charge the battery to full and use it upto the limit
lets see which Radio and Rom drains the minimum battery juice!!
Smartphone battery life is obviously the prime factor in buying a Smartphone
Thank you guys
plz join in and help all

plz update guys
it wud really go a long way in helping all
atleast post ur recent usage stats

standby 22hours
talktime 1hour
internet 30mins
now battery is at 23pc
my rom is the official htc 6.5

That will depend on the usage and can be different as some radios work better with some mobile providers
The best way is to test several combinations ROM/radio till you get the best.
I´m using latest Energy Photon 6.5.1 with radio 4.46 and my battery lasts me 36hr aprox. with a lot of usage, customization, calls, wifi, bt.

orb3000 said:
That will depend on the usage and can be different as some radios work better with some mobile providers
The best way is to test several combinations ROM/radio till you get the best.
I´m using latest Energy Photon 6.5.1 with radio 4.46 and my battery lasts me 36hr aprox. with a lot of usage, customization, calls, wifi, bt.
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ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on

mwrood said:
ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on
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my data connection keeps turning on and off as well. it's annoying. i've turned everything off but it still keeps coming on 3 min after i turn it off

I'd be interested in doing some kind of standardized comparison also. I read posts where some people get great battery life, some people get terrible battery life (I'm in this category), how some people's battery life improve after a few recharge cycles, etc. At this point it's hard to tell whether some people have faulty batteries, some people use their phone more than others, or some ROMs just consume more battery than others. To do a comparison, we'd had to have some kind of agreed upon methodology and here's my proposal:
1) Install acbpowermeter. Just assume that it works the way it's supposed to. Even if it doesn't, since everyone uses it, the methodology is the same so that results can be compared.
2) Whatever ROM/Radio you have, just report it.
3) With phone plugged in, soft rest your phone and wait 5 minutes for everything to get loaded.
4) Turn off the backlight, and run acbpowermeter. It will start measuring power consumption.
5) Turn off the phone right away and after 5 minutes, turn on the phone and pause acbpowermeter.
6) Report your average power consumption and total power consumption, as given by acbpowermeter.
This will give us an indication of how a ROM/radio performs with no activity. This assumes you have no other programs installed/active that contributes to power consumption, but even if you do, I don't think the results would be that far off. I'm curious to see what the idle power consumption is. You might want to run this a few times to get some consistent results before reporting. Also report if you get some spikes in the graph or if power consumption is stable during the 5 minutes. My initial results are an average of about 90mA and 6mAh during 5 minutes. One big spike up to about 360mA at the beginning. This would mean about 72mA per hour or about 21 hours for a 1500mA battery. This is close to my experience of going from 100% to 80% when I wake up in the morning (5 hours of sleep). Terrible. I might just have a bad battery....
EneryROM 11/8 23504. 4.47 Radio.
If anyone else has some suggestions on how we can compare battery consumption, do share, as I think this would be useful information to have.

mwrood said:
ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on
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thevuman said:
my data connection keeps turning on and off as well. it's annoying. i've turned everything off but it still keeps coming on 3 min after i turn it off
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On WVGA tweak there is an option to auto disconnect GPRS every certain time, enable and reset.
Or install this app (attached)
Thanks to original creator, not me

orb3000 said:
On WVGA tweak there is an option to auto disconnect GPRS every certain time, enable and reset.
Or install this app (attached)
Thanks to original creator, not me
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ill be happy to install this cab and use it but i wish i could figure out why the data connection keeps turning on in the first place...its highly anooying and very unneccesary

after trying about 12roms i am back to the htc official 6.5rom
it has good stability nd battery life!!
but still i like the leo or manila 2.5 very much!!!
hope it supports landscape soon!!!!!!!!

best setting for juice defender?

just got juice defender ultimate, as it seems to do a good job of making my battery last longer....but there are so many settings, i'm getting confused.
I basicaly just want the best settings that will disable all internet to save battery, except for once every hour when my i want the phone to run the "autosync" process to sync my facebook, twitter, emails etc. i alsao want it to obviously allow me to connect to the internet if i manually start an app which needs it (internet browser, facebook app, peep, etc).
at first, the app seemed to be doing this, but now i'm finding that although it's doing a great job of saving battery, it's not syncing, and my internet connection doesn't come on when i open an app. (or occasionally, it will come on, then not turn off again until i manually tell it to.....which defeats the whole point of having jhuice defender...i got it so that the phone would automate this process).
any help greatly appreciated...

totally given up on these battery saving apps now. they all seem to do the same thing...
they work exactly as they should for a couple of hours (i.e. they cut out internet except when syncing or when needed for an app etc)...then they suddenly jsut stop working, cause my internet connection to be lost completely, and i can't get it back until I reboot my phone (losing temp root i might add, so having to go through that whole process again too).
i think i'm going to just suck it up and charge the thing every day...i bought an "extended battery" which is supposedly 2430mah (around twice the stock battery), but it doesn't seem to give twice as much performance....it just seems to slow down the battery drain slightly for the first half of the cycle....
i.e. it lasts for around 2 hours without going below 90%, then within the next 2 hours it will drop to 70%, within the next 2 hours to 50%, the next to around 20%, then finally dying within the next 2.....
this is with syncing on, occcasional text or email checking etc.
so i'm getting around 10 hours use instead of around 7 or 8. it's better, but it's far from being twice the capacity.
but anyways, yeh, battery saving apps jsut seem to kill my internet requiring reboot, so i'm gonna just manually cut internet at various stages through the day from now on, and keep charging every night? sound like a plan?

Green Power Premium.
Simple and works as advertised...Juice Defender has got a lot of settings for sure...

d33ps1x said:
Green Power Premium.
Simple and works as advertised...Juice Defender has got a lot of settings for sure...
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ok, i'll give the free version a try...but i'm not holding out much hope, i've tried so many of these battery saver apps now, they al result in my internet connection being totally screwed up until i reboot the phone.

The default settings are pretty good. I don't think I changed much in the way of settings. Your phone will save a lot of power throughout the night with this.

thanks! finally, a battery saver that actually works!
been trialing this today and so far so good.
7 and a half hour shift at work today, it's been syncing every hour (which i know has been working, cos on my break i had tweets and emails waiting, and again when me shift ended)...sent a few texts in the morning, on lunch and after work too. so far it's down to around 83% battery....
The important thing is that it hasn't destroyed my internet connection (touch wood). It switches it off until i unlock the screen, except when it periodically turns on to allow the syncing. It also knows when I am at home and will use my wifi instead of mobile internet.
I'm going to keep trialing it for a few days to make sure it definately doesn't crash my internet after a while like the other programs seem to. So far so good though. If it keeps working, i'll buy premium for the night mode feature. Save even more battery that way.
thanks again, very happy

No problem. Glad it worked out for you.

Green Power is no longer working at night mode....switching WiFi and mobile networks works still, but it doesn't seem able to switch to airplane mode. This is only since I rooted, but I'm on stock Rom and this appears to be the only problem now.
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apparently, someone else on their forums have the same issue, and it's a known bug, something to do with green power being "paused" then "resumed". weird how it's never done it before though :s
have uninstalled it and reinstalled, so hopefully that will sort it out :S
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worked perfectly last night, so it must have been a one off glitch :s