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A positive battery story....

I let my phone discharge fully till it turned itself off!
Charged it for 4 or 5 hours.
Now I used it to make 3 short calls (5mins each) and send 10 or so texts, and surf for about 5 minutes, use google sjy mpas for 5minutes, showcase some video to some friends 2mins, general messing 10mins altogether.
Phone is up 40hours now (since charge) and still at 80%. I am very impressed.
I put it to airplane mode between 12am and 7am though as I don't like to be woken by drunk friends texts at 2am etc. (it happens sometimes).
I think those of us (me included) who slated the battery life originally didn't relaise we were using the phone non-stop pretty much for the entire day, trying out all the features on it. I doubt the first week of use will be "typical use" for ANY user
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My battery on day one seems fine, 12.5 hours running so far, screen at 100%, everything on automatic syncing (and I mean everything, Weather, Twitter, FB, Gmail etc), continuous WiFi connection throughout, plenty of "first day" playing around and still sitting at something like 20%. With a few more charges and more typical use will last a day just fine, which is all I ask, since I always charge my phones overnight...

When i got my phone i let it run out as it had half power, i overcharged it a few hours then let it die, then i do the same again but not overcharge it and let it die. Now i charge it when i need to but i seem to be getting 3 days worth with usage out of it and i use gps, web and have things on auto. Seems to be much better than when i first had it as the battery didnt even last a day but now its past 2 days.
I assume with newer firmwares etc this will improve

My battery life seems to get worse. I charged it fully ... it has been on for 6 hours and I have put 3g on for a while (1hour max and i barely have used it) and my battery is already 60% ... is that poor?? This is my second phone as well!!!

mcgon1979 said:
I let my phone discharge fully till it turned itself off!
Charged it for 4 or 5 hours.
Now I used it to make 3 short calls (5mins each) and send 10 or so texts, and surf for about 5 minutes, use google sjy mpas for 5minutes, showcase some video to some friends 2mins, general messing 10mins altogether.
Phone is up 40hours now (since charge) and still at 80%. I am very impressed.
I put it to airplane mode between 12am and 7am though as I don't like to be woken by drunk friends texts at 2am etc. (it happens sometimes).
I think those of us (me included) who slated the battery life originally didn't relaise we were using the phone non-stop pretty much for the entire day, trying out all the features on it. I doubt the first week of use will be "typical use" for ANY user
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I thought a full charge only required 3 hours..?

Anyone having surprisingly short battery life go into the phone keypad and dial in *#*#4636#*#*, when you key in that last * you will be taken to a testing menu (I've added a contact with this number and when in the dialer I can long press on the number as select edit number before calling to take me to this screen)
In this menu there are options to see phone and battery information as well as usage statistics for apps. The best battery option is "battery history" this shows you what apps are using your battery for various things such as network and processor usage. You can see this data for since you last rebooted your phone, unplugged it or for the whole life of the phone.
The first important part is "other usage", "running" shows you the percentage of the time your phone has been awake and doing stuff, "screen on" is the percentage of time your screen has been on, the difference between these two is when your phone has the screen is turned off but the phone is still working such as when syncing. Ideally you want these two percentages to be as close together as possible but it depends on how much syncing you have going on automatically in the background. If your running percentage is at or near 100% then an app is keeping your phone awake and using battery.
Next we have "partial awake use", this is what as been running in the background when you have the screen turned off and any apps that process or sync in the background would be listed here, the longer the bar, the bigger the drain on your battery. On my phone now the biggest bar by far is android system but it is still only small.
With "sensor usage" this is what has been using your sensors, games that use the sensors will feature heavily here.
"Gps usage" is again pretty self explanatory, whatever has been using gps.
"Network usage" was a real eye opener for me, I found out that an app was downloading megs of data all day and dwarfed all the other bars and was the reason for my bad battery life. Here the blue part of the bar is download and the red part is upload.
And lastly "cpu usage" on mine these are all practically non-existent but if anything is using massive amounts of processing it will show up here.
I only found out about this the other day but it has helped my battery life substantially, I used to take it off charge in the morning and be down to around 60% by lunch time, now I'm at 98%. I did this by uninstalling any apps that used too much battery and that I didn't really use very much as well as the vampire apps that were running and syncing continuously in the background, I also reduced the frequency at which some of my services such as stocks, email and weather synced, and used it on a low brightness when possible.
This is my first android device and I can now happily use it without the fear of running out of battery before the days end

Wow, thanks andybut85, that was a very informative post!

If you download Spare Parts from the Market it gives you access to the same info - instead of 'dialing' to test mode.

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Next we have "partial awake use", this is what as been running in the background when you have the screen turned off and any apps that process or sync in the background would be listed here, the longer the bar, the bigger the drain on your battery. On my phone now the biggest bar by far is android system but it is still only small.
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My biggest is "Calendar" (54mins from Boot, compared to 1min for Andriod System!)
What Calendar could this be? Im syncing from Google Calendar, so will it be that? If so, wouldnt my email syncing show up as constantly on too?
Or could it be some other App that is making it run constantly?
Any help gratefully received.

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My biggest is "Calendar" (54mins from Boot, compared to 1min for Andriod System!)
What Calendar could this be? Im syncing from Google Calendar, so will it be that? If so, wouldnt my email syncing show up as constantly on too?
Or could it be some other App that is making it run constantly?
Any help gratefully received.
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Have a look for "Total in all time" with mine the calendar is roughly half that of android system, it could be that recently your calendar has had to sync for a long time, this could be a one off or if it's still high for the total time it could be a deeper problem. You could also try rebooting and seeing if it occurs again.

Have a look for "Total in all time" with mine the calendar is roughly half that of android system, it could be that recently your calendar has had to sync for a long time, this could be a one off or if it's still high for the total time it could be a deeper problem. You could also try rebooting and seeing if it occurs again.
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Calendar: 1day 7hrs
Android: 5hours
I'm thinking some app I've put on yesterday is not letting it sleep. will uninstall stuff one by one and see how it goes.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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I'm still having problems with battery drain.
My Desire will not last a day
Installed Juiceplotter to find out when and why my battery drops so fast.
See attached image.
The battery drains very fast when i USE the phone, so when the screen is on. (20% in one hour)
I have two push email account activated, one with the HTC Exchange, and one with TouchDown.
But that doesn't explain the drops when phone is active.
Anyone else having this kind of batterydrain ?

I have positive "story" about battery too. Im on second charging. Saturday at 1:00 Im unplug it from charger and now 34h later Im on 7/10 battery.
Im make few calls(cca. 10 calls long 1-3min), few times(cca. 3-5x) check emails accounts(4 pop3 email accountes), quick test sygic navigation, little search on market(install calendar widget and some other app), and play few levels of Teeter...
3G is turned ON
GPS, WIFI is turned OFF
Also automatic sync is for most things disabled or setup to sync 1x per day...

Hmm Can't say I'm impressed by my battery life... it dropped 20% overnight..
I''ll keep an eye out on what's running and see if i can fine tune, but turning things off seems to be a bit pointless as it is made for use not just sit on a desk being pretty.
regards
Kef

i got great battery life at home over the weekend connected to my wi-fi network.. i have a feeling its the crappy edge reception in my office thats eating into battery life during the week..

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i got great battery life at home over the weekend connected to my wi-fi network.. i have a feeling its the crappy edge reception in my office thats eating into battery life during the week..
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yep, that sounds highly plausible. Bad or weak connections to the network (especially mobile internet connections) will really drain a battery as the phone needs to use more power to maintain adequate connection strength.
you can check your signal strength in the "settings / network strength" section. I notice in good 3G areas my connection is -95dBm or higher. At work (which is in some sort of black spot in Dublin) I only get EDGE connection and my signal strength is about -80 to -85dBm. I bet this makes a big difference to battery life, especially if I try browsing or data connection.

my signal strength at work is -91 dbm...
i'm guessing bigger numbers are worse?
mcgon1979 said:
yep, that sounds highly plausible. Bad or weak connections to the network (especially mobile internet connections) will really drain a battery as the phone needs to use more power to maintain adequate connection strength.
you can check your signal strength in the "settings / network strength" section. I notice in good 3G areas my connection is -95dBm or higher. At work (which is in some sort of black spot in Dublin) I only get EDGE connection and my signal strength is about -80 to -85dBm. I bet this makes a big difference to battery life, especially if I try browsing or data connection.
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spare parts showed me that "media" was using the network a lot, bowever i cant work out what this corresponds to, it says DRM protected content storage, download manager and media storage. shows as having downloaded several megs
i use spotify for music, anyone any ides what these could be?
thanks

only guess but i'd say its spotify.. i have used servcies like that in the past on my pc.. and they sometimes have a lot of downloading going on that you dont even ask for!... worth checking out..
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spare parts showed me that "media" was using the network a lot, bowever i cant work out what this corresponds to, it says DRM protected content storage, download manager and media storage. shows as having downloaded several megs
i use spotify for music, anyone any ides what these could be?
thanks
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only guess but i'd say its spotify.. i have used servcies like that in the past on my pc.. and they sometimes have a lot of downloading going on that you dont even ask for!... worth checking out..
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yes it could be, but spotify also comes up as a separate user of resources and i tested it since unplugging when spotify wasnt running and "media" still comes up as the biggest user.
makes me think that its not spotify

another battery thread? please help!

Ok I've had my desire now for couple if weeks. I've read many many posts regarding battery issues so please bear with me.
I've come from iPhone 3gs and estimate my battery is seeing 25 percent less capability.
There are it appears many settings for internet connection. (Always enabled, auto sync, background sync, connect to internet, then individual settings for certain apps when they wanna sync. And then WiFi settings. What I'm after is to kill the internet completely when my phone is not in use, (this is regretable but have to save battery).
What I want is to kill the internet completely when the phone is not in use. No background, no sending hunting for signal etc. Then in one click I wanna connect. AND have the apps sync that I want synced. And have full internet etc. Then in ONE click shut internet off compleley. Is the best way to do this, by setting up your auto sync and background to be always on. Background always on, everything always on or connected, then hold the power button to wake the phone but hold it till you get menu and then select connect to internet from one of the options. Then when I pit the phone down, hold power key, then select disconnect from internet. Will this work and kill my internet connection 100 percent? And get everything synchronized when I turn it on?
Not interested in juice defender, read some bad stories (aswell as good)
Thanks.

Long press the power button, click 'Mobile network' to toggle it on or off.
I use this settings when in work as I have a very poor 3G/H signal in my office, other wise the 3G/H singal drops and connects like a yo-yo all day long draining my battery like crazy! I turn it back on when I'm leaving work. This way I still get calls/texts while in work and I'm sitting at my computer for my internet.

JuiceDefender (even the free version) is working wonders for my battery life. The basic version forces your mobile Internet connectivity to only turn on for 1 minute for every 15...amazing what difference this makes.
I've been using it for the last three days or so in basic mode, and my multiplier is already over x2.
The only downsides I've found are that the 3G/HSDPA is a little slow at "waking up" if I want to use it if JuiceDefender has previously turned it off...I have to have the screen turned on for about 20 secs before a connection initiates - it's a relatively small price to pay, however.
As a rule, I have auto-syncing turned off during office hours since I'm in front of my PC at these times, so don't need to have GMail, NewsRob, Weather, Facebook, Twitter etc. updating on the phone. I turn syncing back on just before I leave the office - and there is plenty of stuff then synced up ready for me to look at whilst on the train home. I leave syncing on for the rest of the night whilst I have WiFi on the phone - and this seems to draw *far* less battery than when 3G/HSDPA is constantly on.
With this routine, I'm easily getting 24 hours out of the phone now...
The real battery killer is when you're using Internet-enabled services in a patchy area. The battery drains away extremely rapidly I've found. In can easily lose up to 40% whilst on the train home (which takes no more than 1hr 20mins) whilst I'm trying to use the Internet etc. as it is constantly cycling between cells moving between G-3G-HSDPA...

rodhull said:
JuiceDefender (even the free version) is working wonders for my battery life. The basic version forces your mobile Internet connectivity to only turn on for 1 minute for every 15...amazing what difference this makes.
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I'll agree with everything rodhull says, especially the lag after switching the screen on. But I know the developer is working hard to resolve this and other issues. JD looks like it will very shortly be an excellent solution to this, which is really an HTC problem - they should have provided a better battery!

I got my Desire a week ago and the first two days it drained in no time.
Today i have used the phone for playing, surfing, talking, mail, used wifi and gps . and I still have 48% left on the Battery.
Time since last charge is 16 hours and 4 minutes.
I am not doing anything special to preserve the battery

TheOriginalKi said:
Long press the power button, click 'Mobile network' to toggle it on or off.
I use this settings when in work as I have a very poor 3G/H signal in my office, other wise the 3G/H singal drops and connects like a yo-yo all day long draining my battery like crazy! I turn it back on when I'm leaving work. This way I still get calls/texts while in work and I'm sitting at my computer for my internet.
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Me too, when at home my battery uses about 1-2% per hour with everything syncing and stuff. When at work, it's 6-8% per hour and it's switching between 3G and 2g the entire day. This seems to have a very big influence on battery life.

Hi All.. Just visiting from the X10 pages.. we're having similar battery issues over there too... suspect that these "super smartphones" are really battery killers... A lot of people on the X10 seem to be getting much better battery life now - I got c.40 hours out of mine earlier this week - with wifi usage - no BT and no GPS... There seems to be a few useful things you can try.. first of all - most people have now ditched Juice Defender.. concluding that it doesn't actually help at all.. if anything I reckon it was using more juice..
Wifi sleep policy - set one.. !
Switch data services off when you don't need them (when asleep etc).
Specifying just 2G/ GPRS when in a weak 3G area..
install task manager or ATK to kill apps that run in the background.. sucking up juice!
Hope this helps some!

Need app to disable APN/save battery

I really like the idea of disabling the phone's APNs when it's just sitting idle to save battery. Unfortunately I've not found an app that can do this reliably.
I first tried Juice Defender/Ultimate Juice which is so configurable that I thought I'd hit a winner. It's (supposed) ability to automatically enable the APN for a short period every so often seemed like the perfect balance of powersaving/data syncing.
Unfortunately it didn't work out this way and messed up my APNs and internet access completely, even after uninstalling (until after a few reboots).
I tried Sleepy Battery just today. Again, the app didn't work as promised - it didn't re-enable the APN after the phone woke up, leaving me with no internet. Again, this app had made a change to my APN that I had to go back in and correct, after I had uninstalled it.
Has anyone got any advice, or can recommend an app that actually works for this use?

I personally use use APNdroid, it allows to switch 3g on and off and has a widget with it. It doesn't automatically turn the 3g on or off depending on your use, that's something you'd have to do yourself...
Hope that helps!

Try sleepy battery, juice defender, or another app I think it's called sweet dreams.

setspeed said:
I really like the idea of disabling the phone's APNs when it's just sitting idle to save battery. Unfortunately I've not found an app that can do this reliably.
I first tried Juice Defender/Ultimate Juice which is so configurable that I thought I'd hit a winner. It's (supposed) ability to automatically enable the APN for a short period every so often seemed like the perfect balance of powersaving/data syncing.
Unfortunately it didn't work out this way and messed up my APNs and internet access completely, even after uninstalling (until after a few reboots).
I tried Sleepy Battery just today. Again, the app didn't work as promised - it didn't re-enable the APN after the phone woke up, leaving me with no internet. Again, this app had made a change to my APN that I had to go back in and correct, after I had uninstalled it.
Has anyone got any advice, or can recommend an app that actually works for this use?
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Thats really strange, I've had great results from JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. It turns APNs off when in standby and turns them on for 15 seconds every 5mins to allow everything to sync. Really can't fault it.
I'd maybe suggest giving it another go? I believe there's an update coming soon from the developer to sort out some issues with the Desire. This might solve your issue.
Not come across any other app's that do what JuiceDefender does as well as it does.

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Thats really strange, I've had great results from JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. It turns APNs off when in standby and turns them on for 15 seconds every 5mins to allow everything to sync. Really can't fault it.
I'd maybe suggest giving it another go? I believe there's an update coming soon from the developer to sort out some issues with the Desire. This might solve your issue.
Not come across any app's that do what JuiceDefender does as well as it does.
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I really wanted to like Juice Defender. Hopefully the update will help, so I'll wait a while for that.
In the meantime I'll give APNDroid and Sweet Dreams a try. Thanks guys

I would recommend getting the juicedefender and ultimatejuice is well worth the purchase! juiceplotter is also a great free add on. They will save you on battery and will automatically control your apn and wifi.

Just a quick question on JuiceDefender actually. I just bought UltimateJuice to try, love all the options it gives you. But, my question is this...
I have my apps (Facebook and the likes) set to sync once every 2 hours. I also have UltimateJuice set up to turn APN on once every 2 hours to allow syncing. Will these two points in time automatically sync up with each other? I can just see Facebook trying to update at 14:00, 16:00, 18:00 etc while UltimateJuice turns APN on at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00 etc.
Hopefully not though. Anybody know? Thanks.

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Just a quick question on JuiceDefender actually. I just bought UltimateJuice to try, love all the options it gives you. But, my question is this...
I have my apps (Facebook and the likes) set to sync once every 2 hours. I also have UltimateJuice set up to turn APN on once every 2 hours to allow syncing. Will these two points in time automatically sync up with each other? I can just see Facebook trying to update at 14:00, 16:00, 18:00 etc while UltimateJuice turns APN on at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00 etc.
Hopefully not though. Anybody know? Thanks.
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I have wondered this, I if you've only got APN turning on every 2 hours you might as well set Facebook to sync every 2-3minutes because, my guess is that it won't attempt to sync if there is no data connection.

Hmm, possibly. I've set Juice to turn data on once an hour. I'll leave it like that for tomorrow and see how it goes. It currently claims to be extending my batter life by 1.88x, and if that remains consistent and it actually can do that then I'll be very impressed.

I've now tried APNDroid and I have to admit it seems like it does save some juice. But I forget to turn it off/enable my APNs frequently, and therefore don't get my data coming through for long periods. I need an automatic app.
Sweets Dreams does not fit the usage I want the app for.
So have gone back and tried Juice Defender again for today, and it seems to be working ok this time round. However it reports that it's multiplied my battery life by 1.95, but that is a complete load of rubbish. My phone was unplugged literally 12hrs ago, and I'm now down to 14% battery.
My use of the phone isn't excessive - searched the Market for maybe 5-10min, installed 3 apps, and uninstalled about 4 apps. Browsed internet for maybe 15min total. Sent and received 12 text messages each way. A few emails have come in that I've dealt with. No gaming action at all, no calls, wifi is completely disabled, I had just a couple of widgets updating infrequently (every few hrs) but I got rid of them early this evening.
What do I have to do to get some sort of half-decent battery life out of this thing?

sometimes u want to have data syncs when the phone sleeps, for example twitter if you have new mentions. I used quick settings (http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.bwx.bequick)
long press on the search button brings this up so you can change it quick.
You could change the sync frequencies to longer gap inbetween updates to improve battery life. I turn on my APN the entire day and I still get about avg 14hrs of usage

I use Data on Demand from the market. It's simples! Just turns data off when the phone is asleep. Doubles the battery life!
Sent from my HTC Desire

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AMoosa said:
I use Data on Demand from the market. It's simples! Just turns data off when the phone is asleep. Doubles the battery life!
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I like it! simples indeed!

I use juice defender/ultimate. It works incredibly well and I can now easily get 2 days use. I have a rooted Desire with MCRr3.
Without this software I stuggled to get 1 day.

After my first couple of days with UltimateJuice I must say I'm pretty impressed. Syncing seems to work fine with the schedule I have set up. I have it turning APS off at night, having it on when I have the screen turned on, and off when the screen is off and then turning back on to sync everything once an hour. Greatly improved battery life so far.

[Q] Battery starts draining at exactly 5am.

I started using JuicePlotter yesterday, and noticed that at night my battery barely drains, if at all (hooray for setcpu!). Until exactly 5am when it starts draining heavily at a steady rate. I've done all of the obvious stuff (I think), like making sure I have nothing set to begin syncing at that time, but I can't seem to pin it down.
Does anyone know of a way to find out what's turning on at 5am and draining the battery?

Do you have an Exchange sync setup?
If you do you may want to check and see if your Peak times start at 5AM. If so you may want to set it to update less frequently.

Does JuiceDefender run on a schedule and keep 3G off until 5am?

Thanks for the suggestions guys
I have exchange set up, but its set to "as items arrive" for both peak and non-peak hours (which is set to 8am anyway - yeah, being on call 24/7 sucks).
I'm also not using any kind of timing app like juice defender to schedule anything.
One wierd thing I noticed that may be tied to this, is that certain apps like twitdroyd and fb update immediately when I open the apps, even though they're set to refresh manually, and not to update when I open the apps. Still trying to figure that one out.

Night mode is enabled from 2 am to 5 am. Depending on your settings, Data/3G/Wifi are disabled between those times.

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Night mode is enabled from 2 am to 5 am. Depending on your settings, Data/3G/Wifi are disabled between those times.
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This sounds promising - can you tell me how to check any night mode settings? (searching turns up nada)

fachadick said:
This sounds promising - can you tell me how to check any night mode settings? (searching turns up nada)
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He is referring to JuiceDefender, I bet. I would guess a lot of people who use JuicePlotter also use JuiceDefender. It does exactly as he described: turns data off from 2am to 5am. I use it, and it does help. It also keeps data off when the screen is off during the rest of the day, except for a quick check every so often.

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He is referring to JuiceDefender, I bet. I would guess a lot of people who use JuicePlotter also use JuiceDefender. It does exactly as he described: turns data off from 2am to 5am. I use it, and it does help. It also keeps data off when the screen is off during the rest of the day, except for a quick check every so often.
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rats - I was hoping he was referring to something in regular settings. I'm not using JuiceDefender, or anything similar.

well if you do have it setup for everything to be off between 2 - 5 then wouldn't that make sense that as soon as 5 hit your apps will start syncing even Google apps as they have been trying to sync that whole time and just started queuing up and finally your radios turned back on. I have not used juice yet so i do not know much about it just throwing in some pennies.
One other thing the refresh manually is only for when the app is closed as soon as that app opens its going to sync with its servers. When you set it to manual then that means when you open the app you manually refreshed it and the phone did not do that while idle or you were busy on some other app. Its like twitter for desktops if you set your refresh manually then while the app is open it will not refresh until you hit refresh

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rats - I was hoping he was referring to something in regular settings. I'm not using JuiceDefender, or anything similar.
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One thought: Do you have a good signal in the spot where your phone sits at 5am? A bad signal is the best way to drain a battery fast. A friend's house has an awful Sprint signal, and my battery will drain in four or five hours there, even with no use, whereas I get well over 24 hours with average use in good signal strength areas.
Back when I first got my phone, I used System Panel to figure out what was causing the battery drain. I liked using it so much, I even ended up purchasing it. The history part is what you want, and it will work without paying for a bit, so you can find the problem.

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well if you do have it setup for everything to be off between 2 - 5 then wouldn't that make sense that as soon as 5 hit your apps will start syncing even Google apps as they have been trying to sync that whole time and just started queuing up and finally your radios turned back on. I have not used juice yet so i do not know much about it just throwing in some pennies.
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that would make sense if I was running something like that, but I'm not - as a part of my job, I need to be able to reply immediately to specific emails. At any hour. Total PITA, but hell, it's better than not having a job, right? JuicePlotter's pretty neat though - it just sits in the background monitoring your battery levels and graphs them. For example, it was showing an almost horizontal line from when I stopped using the phone the night before until exactly 5am when it started a gradual decline.
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One other thing the refresh manually is only for when the app is closed as soon as that app opens its going to sync with its servers. When you set it to manual then that means when you open the app you manually refreshed it and the phone did not do that while idle or you were busy on some other app. Its like twitter for desktops if you set your refresh manually then while the app is open it will not refresh until you hit refresh
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Are you sure about this? I mean it makes sense, but I would be willing to swear that back when I was running stock I would open FB or Twitdroyd and it would wait for me to hit refresh before syncing with their servers. Twitdroyd, for example, I would set to keep 80 tweets, and I would check it only occasionally, so I could read those 80 tweets whenever I wanted. Now when I check it, because it syncs immediately, I lose anything older than the most recent 80 tweets. As a workaround, I've increased the number of tweets to keep, but it's still annoying.

ok so hmm what rom are you using. not wanting to bash the dev but could it be that rom?

hankbear said:
One thought: Do you have a good signal in the spot where your phone sits at 5am? A bad signal is the best way to drain a battery fast. A friend's house has an awful Sprint signal, and my battery will drain in four or five hours there, even with no use, whereas I get well over 24 hours with average use in good signal strength areas.
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My signal's not great, but the phone didn't move between 4am and 5am, and the battery only started draining at 5am.
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Back when I first got my phone, I used System Panel to figure out what was causing the battery drain. I liked using it so much, I even ended up purchasing it. The history part is what you want, and it will work without paying for a bit, so you can find the problem.
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I actually purchased SystemPanel this morning with the hope that it would help me get to the bottom of this (I had been using the free version for a while, and now I had an excuse to buy it). It shows me history of battery, device usage, and cpu activity, but even if I see that the cpu or the device is being used, I'm still not sure how that's going to help me pinpoint what's going on. First I need to build up some history anyway though.

If you get great battery life, please share your tips here!

I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode

Yeah, I need some help too. I get about a day and a half with no use at all, and about 10 hours with minimal use. 4 hours with real world usage... I can't deal with this. Could it be the battery? It performs like a 1 year old, used, refurb battery came with a stock phone!
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.

kennyglass123 said:
Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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masaidjet said:
I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
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liquiddetox said:
Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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all of these... biggest one is to turn off data when the phone is in your pocket. use wifi when u can, avoid using 4g unless plugged in, configure the battery in recovery (i've actually notice that this helps less than anything else for me), and finally: get an extended battery. it's worth the extra hours u can squeeze out of it. don't expect more than 4-5 hours screen on time with any rom/kernel/modem combo with a stock battery.

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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Yeah I also did that wipe battery stats at recovery.
I just thought maybe my expectations were too high, although it seems as if my battery drains drop pretty fast.
I would say about -10% battery drop every hour, just checking the time and send/receive text messages. Occasionally I surf the Web on the phone when on break at work. Other than that the phone is in my pocket, and after my 9 hour workday my phone demands the charger.
This is with the stock battery, so I guess this is normal unless I'm using the extended battery?
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u could also run a kernel that allows for over (under) clocking/undervolting. that helps some, too

get the duricell portable battery extender, add milliamps to your arsinal in one way or another with extended batterys or whatever, if you call sprint and complain loudly and dickly they will rebate you the cost that u spend on a new battery or batt extender whatever... that being said all the above options work great, u can also use night mode on chainfire 3d to save battery, or perhaps half your pixel rate, or perhapes turn off some colors (havent seen an app to do this yet) and reset your battery memory in cwm, kill ur batt, charg while off, then cycle again like that. (theres an app for that) if your not rooted, root your phone. if you dont want to root your phone, cycle ur battery the old fasion way or pop it into a rooted phone and do it.

I used to get really poor battery life (due to my phone not sleeping as evidenced by Spare Parts app). I rooted, used Titanium Backup to freeze various apps, and got an Zboost antenna booster for the office and called Sprint who sent me an Airave for the house. I wiped battery stats and cleared my Dalvic cache and the thing the finally got me right was finding out the Amazon MP3 app was still logged in though not running. Once I made sure I was logged out of that and Lattitude (Google Map feature) and Facebook, I haven't had any problem with a sleeping phone. Stock Froyo, standard battery, but rooted. When they say a bad app keeps your phone from sleeping I think they mean an app that requires log in...although this does not seem to be a problem if you stay logged in from a browser, only from an app!

Breezy357 said:
I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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You may be shooting yourself in the foot with some of those things. App killers aren't that useful on Gingerbread since they keep killing apps that just reload on their own, and every time the reload it uses power. Just because an app is loaded doesn't mean it is running. Try letting the system take care of it. Juice Defender may help a little but it keeps shutting down data and starting it up, which means you don't get as much usefulness out of the phone and may waste power in some circumstances.
See what you have set to sync. Turn off any autosyncs you don't need, like weather screens, facebook, etc. If at all possible set them to only sync when you open the program.
I use the exchange option for gmail using the stock samsung app, which gives me push email but doesn't have to keep polling the server. I don't know if that makes a difference compared to imap, but it works well for me. don't think you have that option in CM7.
Wifi is a much more efficient way transfer data than 3G, use it whenever you can, and set it to never sleep. Otherwise the 3G radio keeps starting up again and wasting battery.
You can freeze the DRM stuff if you don't use it. I don't know if it really makes a difference but everyone thinks it does, so I do it.
Having a black wallpaper helps a little because on a AMOLED screen a black pixel uses no power.
The biggest battery killer is being in a bad signal area. If you always have 0 or 1 bars then your phone is going to always be draining the battery trying to find a good cell. In that case Roam Control may help you.
That's about all I do, and with the latest Stock gingerbread EH17 and EI22 I'm sitting with about 40 to 50% left after 12 hours, that's with light to moderate use.

I've been through the ringer with this. I'm pretty comfortable now, routinely managing to have 33% of battery left after 12hrs w/3g always on, sync always on, intermittent music listening, 2.5-3hrs of gaming and general "screen on" time (auto brightness), 1.1 GHz OC, no undervolting, and GPS always on. Here's what I'd suggest:
Flash a ROM w/ NO CIQ (thanks k0nane!) - In addition to being a leech on your privacy it's a leech on your battery. It's old news to long-time Epic owners at this point, but ditching CIQ improves battery life and overall responsiveness of the Epic. A popular stable Froyo ROM for this is SFR 1.2.
Minimize always-running services - Long press your homescreen, select "shortcuts," select "settings," and select "running services." Tap this to see what's running ongoing services (not apps) your phone is running. All of these are drawing current to stay in RAM. Things like Juice Defender, Tasker, and others show up here and draw power in doing so. JD and Tasker especially can drain a lot because they perform constant tasks as well. Uninstall them and let your phone manage itself.
The same goes for task managers and app-stoppers - Froyo and above does this fine on it's own
Freeze/Uninstall system services you don't use - This includes things like Sprint voicemail, the "Email" app, and the "SprintAndroidExtension.apk," and SNS services. You'll most likely find these on the "Running Services Page" as well. You can Titanium Backup to uninstall them, but I recommend the SDX Stock App Remover as that can restore them (TB can't reliably). TB can freeze these as well, which accomplishes basically the same thing. SNS is connected to Facebook, so if you use that a lot you might want to keep it. DRM services can also be removed, but may cause problems reading the SD card. I stay away from it.
Use Spare Parts to monitor wakelock and CPU usage - If you notice something giving you persistent trouble, shut it down. This is time-consuming, but you'll get a good feel for what apps are out there to accomplish similar tasks and which one best suits your needs.
Uninstall apps you don't use - Next time you wipe and flash a new ROM, reinstall or restore backed up apps as you need to use them and not all at once. You may find you don't need quite a few of them, allowing you to keep more space open on your phone and requiring less current to maintain them
Don't charge the battery overnight - most phones can reach capacity in 2-4 hours depending on charge level. Beyond that, holding at or around fully charged will degrade the battery by denying it the ability to release the stored energy. I charge mine in the evening a few hours before bed and top it off in the morning before leaving for work.
Get an 1800mAh battery sold for the Epic Touch - this is what moved me form "getting by" to "definitely comfortable." For around $25 (incl shipping) on ebay, I've gotten a new lease on my Epic's life. It may seem like cheating to bring in a new battery, but it makes a lot of difference WITHOUT adding more bulge to your phone (makes it a tad heavier though).
Hope this helps. Remember, of course, that what works for one phone won't necessarily work for another. Despite being the same model, minor imperfections in silicone can create individual temperaments for each phone.

I as always trying to make my battery last by stopping this and uninstalling that. Then I thought; why did I buy this phone with all of these capabilities to turn them all off

So, something like the "Hyperion Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G 2 x Battery + Charger" (too "young" to post a direct link)
Would fit in/work with the Epic 4G (without needing a new cover)? Even though its for the Touch?
Lol, I've been doing many of the suggestions across the board, and have gotten much better results. But I'm still not "comfortable" with my battery strength, especially when I'm unable to charge my phone all day...

Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.

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Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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SNSservice is a Facebook and Feeds and Updates Widget service. ALWAYS stop it. It does not matter to Facebook, even if you use it, but if you remove the Feeds and Updates Widget on one of your screens, that service continues to search for it and will kill your battery in a matter of hours (it starts a "restarting" loop). Either leave the widget on or kill this service after every reboot or if you are rooted, freeze it along with DRM service.
My other battery tips are to log out or sign out of every app such as Lattitude, Facebook, Amazon MP3 (it's ok to use them, but don't just back/exit out, actually sign out of them so you have to log back in next time). Apparently, staying signed in causes your phone to not sleep and you can't find what is causing it (i.e. you can't see it "running" anywhere...people call it a misbehaving app, and you would have to delete apps one at a time to find it by trial and error).