I am using my Hermes as my primary phone, making about 10 phone calls per day, 20 minutes of browsing and PUSH MAIL for one account. I am connected to 3G network with HSDPA support. I am using stock 1300 mAh battery.
I was using Dvha v17 for long time and finishing my day with 40% battery and always thought this is how it should be.
I had some stability issues (lockups) and I have decided to upgrade the ROM.
First, I installed PDACorner v21. Stability of the system was great, no lockups anymore. But, in the middle of the day (about 4pm) my battery was empty. Switching to 2G left me with about 50% of the battery in the end of the day, but I don't like 2G because of the noise it makes to all speakers I am passing by.
Then I installed CRC v13, then PDACorner v23 and still had the same battery life.
This weekend I decided to try Dvha v21 (build 20721) and suddenly my battery is 40% at the end of the day with 3G HSDPA enabled!
On all ROMs I am installing the same set of programs and using the same mail account for push. The only difference is the Dvha is a big storage ROM, while all others I chose NRBSN.
I am always using Advanced Config and enable power management for all possible devices.
I also tried to upgrade radio ROM, but then had to downgrade back to 1.48 which is the best for me. No noticeable change in battery life with different radios.
Switching to 2G will dramatically improve battery life, leaving at least 50% on the end of the day. Disabling push will leave at least 70% on the end of the day.
Can anybody else confirm this? The difference is huge! It's about finish the day or not!
I found some posts saying that with push enabled, charging during the day is normal and usual for some people. I would agree, but now I am holding a device that is able to run all day long on HSDPA and with push enabled! I installed new version Dvha to confirm this.
It could be great if someone will find out what is different in Dvha ROM that improves battery life with push mail so drastically. Other ROMs are still more stable. With the new Dvha version I still have lockups and have to soft-reset at least once a day. I can't afford it with my primary phone. I need 100% stability during the day and I must admit that both PDACorner and CRC NRBSN ROMs are very much stable (thank you, chefs).
P.S. My next experiment will be installing the first non big storage Dvha ROM, which is Dvha v22, build 20748. I want to know if it's related to the big storage.
MRH 8.4 and Faria
I have tested all the ROMS put on successively here. My usage is similar to yours. However, I find Faria Puttingham ROM and MRH 8.4 as best stable roms. CRC gives problems and PDAVIET is just trash for my HERMIS. Rebooting several times means losing data and does not make sense.
Coming to PDA CormerPRO they are as good as MRH. since MRH has stopped development, PDAcoerner is the ROM to stick or just go back to Faria for long battery life. I use HERMIS 300 that is Tmobile MDA vario II. So there may be subtle differences in functioning.
I never got problems with 2G dialer either on my Tmobile MDA. I do not know 3G as this service is not available in my area.
what is the best dialer by the way? that has history and speed dial bottons? thanks
rocksolid
Hmm
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
PS, my day starts at 5 a.m. finishes at 9 p.m.
zocster said:
Have a jasjam here, constantly on 3g, with active sync to 2k7, about 10-20 3 minute calls, running on 1.56.70.11 radio, not that much browsing as I only reply to emails, 20 SMS a day, etc.
My battery last a day, at night time I have to plug my phone in charger and ready for the next day.
I run SPB phone suite and mobile shell, with Yahoo! Go, palringo for IM, and yeah with a windows mobile device, and running it as heavy as I am making calls, push email and listening to music while driving home really .. no biggie. It is kinda expected, I may try and find if there is any extended batteries for the hermes I can use.
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What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?
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What is your ROM? Do you have stock battery?
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My only ROMs so far that I like are CRC and PDA corner on my signature both had the same results
as i known on technical hardware, if we have device an old for 2 years and never change stock battery. we have lost half past more during a day. cause it's not just software related, but hardware also
The main power draws are the old 3G chispset and the backlight on the screen.
Theres only so much you can do with software, this being, as said, a 2year old phone.
1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...
ochakov said:
1. This is not hardware related question, since I am using the same device for testing. It's one day with one ROM empty the battery before 4pm, the other day with DVHA it will finish the day with 40% left.
2. I am now on DVHA v22 - non-BS version. This is the first DVHA non-BS ROM. It's 6pm now and I have 40% left. This is still better than other ROMs, but worse than DVHA v21 which was BS (I am not sure this is related).
3. I am going to try PDACorner v24 big storage. This will be the first time I install BS version for ROM having also non-BS one (I hate big storage). I will try it on the first day it will be out of beta.
4. My device is JasJam, which is Herm100. Is there any differences in 3G module between different modifications? If so, it can explain a lot...
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For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's
veyka said:
For the most part BS roms use slightly more power, and compressed roms even more so.
No, the different Hermes models are just different front facing camera's
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yes I will have to agree with the BS stuff, as with non BS of pda corner and was on CRC's 11.2 I didn't experience any fast draining of what a BS of PCpro or any other roms for that matter.
i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage
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i usually just view i dont post ...but i had to add in on this i only picked pvdvh full v18 because it had the lowest idle %, and i regret every second of making this decision. ever since this rom has hijacked my phone, i have tried about 12 roms since ive gotten this phone, and none of them have underperformed like v18 it had a "phone off" bug, where it wont let me turn the phone function on..i have to reset constantly, i have constant freezes, i can no longer use my usb connection to pc for some reason, and i seem to lose battery power at a rate of 1% every 2-3 minutes or so if the screen is lit. on the lowest setting . i believe my only option now since i cant pc connect, i have to get a card reader and load an sd autorun just to get this off of my dopod. i hope it hasnt done any perm damage
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As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.
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As with all roms, your mileage may differ, if that roms not so good for you, flash another.
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good idea, thanks
Power consumption based on storage schema
If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?
After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?
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If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the OS itself.
The part of the OS that makes a difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed, either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM.
When the ROM is accessed it has to get powered and since it is slow the CPU has to be clocked longer not to mention that if data are compressed (RBSC)the CPU has to decompress the content before it's of any use. This may not be a huge difference but when you repeat this cycle half a million times it ads up to a lot more power drain - Same thing goes for the SD-Flash except these are rarely compressed.
The time-proven workaround is to set aside a region of fast RAM to shadow content from the power hungry non-volatile storage.
The bottom line of power drain is a trade off between Free-RAM size vs. DSK caching. The best of both world solution may be to run a cache resized automagically (HLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\DataCache=0 and FATCache=0). The OS caches all it needs in RAM and automatically writes dirty pages to storage in the background or when more RAM is needed to run your programs.
Actually the above automatic cache schema is not the best solution for our phones. To further increase your battery life you need to hardset your cache size so WM does not have to keep resizing all its different caches non stop!
The big plus with hardset cache size is the RAM free space won't become as fragmented so WM will be less unstable.
Interesting Cache size settings are one of 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 in number of sectors... the RAM usage is only half that (2048 sectors fit in 1MB of RAM). Logically you want to keep a smaller FAT cache ratio for the Data it's pointing to. If it's too small you will get cache missed and data will get fetched from storage.
Now you can set your own preferences based on your needs and be your own chef: more free RAM for large programs Apps. or longer battery span.
Is that empowering to tweak your favorite ROM?
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Arent you too smart not to cook ?
ochakov said:
After about a week with DVHA v22, I switched to PDACorner v25
It's 2:40pm now and my battery is empty.
Same device, same battery, same programs, same emails...
Everything is the same - the ROM is different. It was 40% battery left at the end of the day with DVHA, now it's empty in the middle of the day.
Any thoughts?
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Yep, I hear you mate! That's why I said:"If you run testing on different ROMs with a standard usage pattern (voice calls, SMS, Push...) using the same Radio set to 2G the difference will be the ROM OS image itself.
The part of the OS that makes the most difference for battery drain is the way the storage is accessed: either directly (ROM/SDFlash) or from live RAM."
Luckily I have some solutions ... but this will require manual reg. surgery on a per ROM basis until it gets integrated directly in the ROM builds (combination of PwrMgt fixes and ROM access avoidance for the most part).
Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"
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Last weekend I spent half day poking around the UI while at the same time playing MP3 non-stop. After 6 hours I still had around 60% bat. I think I have the Reg tweaks for "long-life battery"
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Glad to have U on the Hermes forum! This sounds very interesting and Looking forward to your WM OS tweaks knowledge...
anryl said:
Arent you too smart not to cook ?
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You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.
sanfrenchysco said:
You have a real good point but I don't know how to make my own sandwich...
If I am pleased with what is in the ROM, why try to cook my own when I don't know exactly how it's done?
Instead I fix the installed base ROM with my own performance tweaks. At this point I believe this is the most productive way for the user community instead of having one more cook competing for the best ROM combination of Apps.
I shall post my Long-life battery tweaks which by the way yields performance improvements through less ROM access.
On another note, the SDCard issues people are having may be caused by the SD internal wear-leveling logic relocating blocks thus scrambling cached FAT...
I will post on all the above once I can contribute sure fixes.
SF/.
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Would you mind posting up what you have for us to have a play around with?
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facts.
US tmobile rom.
100 % battery at 8am from overnight charge.
used config 3.3 for all advized power savings.
no push internet, or anythign like that..weather etc..all basicaly stock.
no running programs..
connected on the EDGE network.
downloaded 5 emails, responded to 1
browsed opera for 5 minutes
used built in youtube to watch a 5 minute vid clip.
youtube vid clip took 30 minutes to download (due to edge speed)
back of phone very warm as if it were ON a charger
now i am at 75% bat life.
info says
0 standby time
0 talk
1 hour 20 min device usage (of which was only what i had above.)
can i get an opinion? or better yet, can someone do the EXACT same thing and if your at 75% after doing what i did?
i just dont feel right about it...it seems yesterday before i got advice about using my wireless... i tried edge today... and it seems to be identical as yesterday... maybe i feel this way because last week i noticed when i was charging in the car and at work via laptop... the charge light kept going out after 10 seconds and flickering even though it was around 70% full...kind of like i feel that i have 25% dead cells or something...
Hi there,
You might want to try this as i remeber reading this in a thread about the battery life of the tp 2. With adv config do not put the power saving settings on for the memory card as for some reason it uses more power.
However if you are not using a mem card then I am not sure.
Hope that helps
yes i did see that, treid both ways.. no change.
I spoke to tmobile yesterday and they are sending me a new battery.
today i turned the phone on at 100% and seen it drop 3 percent in 15 minutes reading 1 text message....
ill know if this is all solved possbily friday, if i get my new battery.
Hi again,
If it helps, still on stock Rom, not used advanced config to configure any power settings, prefer the manual approach of use the reg for anything I feel the need to change.
Been a slow day today with the Rhodium, but here's my stats for you.
Battery currently at 80%, not using the 1% tweak either.
9hrs 38 mins standby since last full charge (left in docking bay overnight)
6 minutes talk time
37 minutes device usage
16GB Sandisk card, HSPL, Stock Rom, Stock Radio, Tmob UK
Bluetooth allways on, though not always connected (Mainly HFP and A2DP usage for in car)
my advice, as posted before, do a hard reset, don't apply any tweaks at all and see how it goes.
I have installed a great deal of apps and quite a few reg enhancements (See my tweaks thread 90% of them are on my device)
manually set to GSM (constant bouncing from HSPDA in my location if not forced, which hammers my charge)
Installed apps,
SPB Mobile Shell & TF3D for UI
Exchange push mail active
TT7, Coreplayer, Skype, TCPMP, FMRadio, DOTFred Taskmanager,MAXTTM TF3D Config, WKTask, PIMBackup, PowerRadio, SPB Radio, SPB TV, MP3 Trimmer, MP3 Alarm, Beastmaster, VoiceCommand, and a *** load of games.
Are you using a wall charger to charge in the evenings or only USB?
How low do you let the device get before charging again.
Normally I would charge whenever possible, charges in the car cradle, charges when docked in the office.
However today I've let stay uncharged all day to monitor just for you mate
Cheers,
Beasty
THANKS.. that does give me some info..
im definatly going to get a new battery..
i will hard reset tonight...
you mention you dont use config 3 for your tweaks, you just go into the reg...
i was thinking that too.. this all seemed to start around the time i installed that program....( i did check the memory card powersave option)
tonight i will hard reset...and try what you do...
appreciate your help...
quick question, since im doing a hard reset and reloading my tmo rom back in to stock.... i read a post where someone said that if you cancle the "extra" instalations during this time, it wont load in the extra tmobile bloatware...
are you familiar with this?
I have also noticed if the notification lights goes blinking or maybe flickers, the battery is consumed more than its usual when it stays off. I do not know why....
loueber said:
THANKS.. that does give me some info..
im definatly going to get a new battery..
i will hard reset tonight...
you mention you dont use config 3 for your tweaks, you just go into the reg...
i was thinking that too.. this all seemed to start around the time i installed that program....( i did check the memory card powersave option)
tonight i will hard reset...and try what you do...
appreciate your help...
quick question, since im doing a hard reset and reloading my tmo rom back in to stock.... i read a post where someone said that if you cancle the "extra" instalations during this time, it wont load in the extra tmobile bloatware...
are you familiar with this?
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Yes,
You used to be able to soft reset during auto config, however I had heard reports that this no longers works on the Rhodium.
Cheers,
Beasty
I noticed that processor intensive stuff like watching videos drains the battery quite fast. I was watching a 2 hour movie and the battery was down by about 50%. So battery killers I noticed so far are:
- Surfing on mobile data connection (just keeping it online but without data transfer seems to have little impact on battery life, so things like push mail or push internet shouldn't drain the battery that much).
- GPS
- Anything CPU / Graphic intensive like Videos, Navigation system.
No surprises here, actually. Apart from that, i have very decent battery life of about 3 days normal usage (little surfing, push mail, push internet, 10 minutes of calls per day and using a few apps (task tracker and a few games .
heres an update...
last night i did what beasty recomended... i hard reset.. installed only icons etc...stopped push internet...opera..etc...
the only thing i DIDNT reinstall was System congif 3.3..
i immediatly noticed a difference in LESS battery drain....
so far, i am leanign towards System config program does something that increases battery drain...
althogh there are a few settings in that program i would like to use, i am very hesitant on reinstalling it as it might cause a problem again...
heres a couple questions for all..
is there any way i can copy MY rom with all the settings programs icons, etc etc.to be able to flash my stuff back? Not just back up my stuff.. but everything i done..so if i ever had to hard reset, i would be hard reseting to MY settings and rom and not factory tmo rom?
also, if i were to install system config, and it changes settings...if i were to UNINSTALL sys config, do all the settings now go back to what they were before i installed it?
i would like to try and confirm it was sys config causing problems, but dont want to have to hard reset all over again...
Uninstalling Advanced Config will NOT revert settings.
Look into UC, most cooked Roms are UC compliant now thanks to Sleuth's code, see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
and
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AutoRun
Once you understand UC, you can create your own customisations, apps list to install etc etc, this way each time you flash a Rom, or hardreset all your apps and configs are applied automatically by UC.
Hope that helps,
ps, advanced config is not currently listed as supporting the Rhodium
Cheers,
Beasty
yes that helps ALOT!
thank you..
i will see if i can understand UC... maybe if so then it would help me greatly...
i will stay away from advance config...
thanks for all your help... im currently learning about my TP2 while learning how to rebuild my clutch on my Ninja...lol...
loueber said:
yes that helps ALOT!
thank you..
i will see if i can understand UC... maybe if so then it would help me greatly...
i will stay away from advance config...
thanks for all your help... im currently learning about my TP2 while learning how to rebuild my clutch on my Ninja...lol...
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Enjoy,
Rebuilding the clutch on a Ninja........ easy job too
Rebuilt many a bike, I think every rider should, gives you a much better understanding and appreciation for your machine, especially when your getting close too the 200MPH mark round the track, who better to trust than yourslef, knowing that you put every single nut and bolt in there.
Great fun, I once burnt a whole through two pistons at 180 (fortunately down the straight)
Seems we share a few similar hobbies mate, good luck with both.
The Wiki is always a good place to start on here when learning things.
Cheers,
Beasty
LOLLOLOLOL wow... 180!!
lol...
this forum and the zx10r forums are the only forums im on...hahah...
both are a great help from people like you... i just finished replacing my fork seal... but its still leaking.. ill have to look very close on second repair.. must be some sort of scratch... the best was when i using my TP2 to view the repair manual as i was working on it!!
hey guys plz post ur battery status here along with the radio version you hav on ur phone
this wud be of great help for future reference for all of us and to select the best Radio version
Plz charge the battery to full and use it upto the limit
lets see which Radio and Rom drains the minimum battery juice!!
Smartphone battery life is obviously the prime factor in buying a Smartphone
Thank you guys
plz join in and help all
plz update guys
it wud really go a long way in helping all
atleast post ur recent usage stats
standby 22hours
talktime 1hour
internet 30mins
now battery is at 23pc
my rom is the official htc 6.5
That will depend on the usage and can be different as some radios work better with some mobile providers
The best way is to test several combinations ROM/radio till you get the best.
I´m using latest Energy Photon 6.5.1 with radio 4.46 and my battery lasts me 36hr aprox. with a lot of usage, customization, calls, wifi, bt.
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That will depend on the usage and can be different as some radios work better with some mobile providers
The best way is to test several combinations ROM/radio till you get the best.
I´m using latest Energy Photon 6.5.1 with radio 4.46 and my battery lasts me 36hr aprox. with a lot of usage, customization, calls, wifi, bt.
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ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on
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ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on
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my data connection keeps turning on and off as well. it's annoying. i've turned everything off but it still keeps coming on 3 min after i turn it off
I'd be interested in doing some kind of standardized comparison also. I read posts where some people get great battery life, some people get terrible battery life (I'm in this category), how some people's battery life improve after a few recharge cycles, etc. At this point it's hard to tell whether some people have faulty batteries, some people use their phone more than others, or some ROMs just consume more battery than others. To do a comparison, we'd had to have some kind of agreed upon methodology and here's my proposal:
1) Install acbpowermeter. Just assume that it works the way it's supposed to. Even if it doesn't, since everyone uses it, the methodology is the same so that results can be compared.
2) Whatever ROM/Radio you have, just report it.
3) With phone plugged in, soft rest your phone and wait 5 minutes for everything to get loaded.
4) Turn off the backlight, and run acbpowermeter. It will start measuring power consumption.
5) Turn off the phone right away and after 5 minutes, turn on the phone and pause acbpowermeter.
6) Report your average power consumption and total power consumption, as given by acbpowermeter.
This will give us an indication of how a ROM/radio performs with no activity. This assumes you have no other programs installed/active that contributes to power consumption, but even if you do, I don't think the results would be that far off. I'm curious to see what the idle power consumption is. You might want to run this a few times to get some consistent results before reporting. Also report if you get some spikes in the graph or if power consumption is stable during the 5 minutes. My initial results are an average of about 90mA and 6mAh during 5 minutes. One big spike up to about 360mA at the beginning. This would mean about 72mA per hour or about 21 hours for a 1500mA battery. This is close to my experience of going from 100% to 80% when I wake up in the morning (5 hours of sleep). Terrible. I might just have a bad battery....
EneryROM 11/8 23504. 4.47 Radio.
If anyone else has some suggestions on how we can compare battery consumption, do share, as I think this would be useful information to have.
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ok, how in the world are u getting such good battery life...ive got the same rom loaded and ive sent about 20 text messages and its already down to 75%....also, it appears as tho my data connection keeps turning back on by itself and i KNOW for a fact that there is nothing auto updating that would cause it to turn back on
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thevuman said:
my data connection keeps turning on and off as well. it's annoying. i've turned everything off but it still keeps coming on 3 min after i turn it off
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On WVGA tweak there is an option to auto disconnect GPRS every certain time, enable and reset.
Or install this app (attached)
Thanks to original creator, not me
orb3000 said:
On WVGA tweak there is an option to auto disconnect GPRS every certain time, enable and reset.
Or install this app (attached)
Thanks to original creator, not me
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ill be happy to install this cab and use it but i wish i could figure out why the data connection keeps turning on in the first place...its highly anooying and very unneccesary
after trying about 12roms i am back to the htc official 6.5rom
it has good stability nd battery life!!
but still i like the leo or manila 2.5 very much!!!
hope it supports landscape soon!!!!!!!!
I just started running the latest (not sure what it is, but I got it this weekend - 10/30/10) version of XDAndroid.
I am a little disappointed with the life of the battery... I charged it fully last night and drove to work with it in the car charger. I don't take my cell phone into work, so I put into airplane mode and left it in a cool area (like have always done with the same phone running WinMo 6.5.) I checked to make sure there were no apps running also.
When I went out for lunch, I was surprised to find that the phone was still warm and the battery indicator was down 25%. After lunch (I did not even use it) the phone was warning me that it only had 15% life left (and it was still warm.)
I put it into airplane mode after lunch - we'll see where is stands on my way home, but my guess is that it will be completely dead.
The same phone running WinMo 6.5 (and the same battery) can last for days like this...
Is this a common problem? (I have not found anything to this effect other than the battery meter being unreliable.)
Is there something I could check or do?
I am using the app to launch the OS and it has my over-clocking set at "Medium" ("Hi" froze my phone.) I'm planning on trying "Normal" tomorrow to see if there is any difference in battery life.
thanks in advance,
Jordan
There's gotta be something running in the background, otherwise the phone would be cool.
Make sure you're completely up to date - some of the bundle packages have old pieces in them. Sometimes it's OK, other times it means your build is very outdated.
I dropped back to the overclocking level before medium, made absolutely sure that all processes were stopped, and the battery was completely dead. It had been on charge until around 10:00 and in Airplane mode with all processes stopped. I checked it around 5:00, but the battery was already dead, so I don't know when it actually died.
Format SD card using any other third party program like Panasonic SD Formatter or what have you > Go here http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads/archive and download any old Android build (Except for Sense 2.1) > Manually update kernals and rootfs > Uncheck Ovclock (Or take out the OC command line in the startup.txt and check the manual startup.txt from the launcher app) > Boot.
You should have great battery life now and phone should stay cool and go into deep sleep (Green LED light).
So are you saying that overclocking is causing the battery life to drain quickly? I can turn it off with the installer that I am using.
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So are you saying that overclocking is causing the battery life to drain quickly? I can turn it off with the installer that I am using.
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Well it would stand to reason that OVERclocking a processor would degrade battery life & stability.
well to be honest you are not going to get great battery life out of android on the tp2...yet. On WM with normal use I get about a little over a full day, android max is like 7-8 hours. The battery life has made great strides though recently and I'm sure will eventually be usable for a full day.
Try a program from the market called juice defender, it literally doubles my battery life when running android, should help with your heat issues as well
Thanks very much for the helpful advice - I'll look for it tomorrow and let you know how I make out
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Format SD card using any other third party program like Panasonic SD Formatter or what have you > Go here http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads/archive and download any old Android build (Except for Sense 2.1) > Manually update kernals and rootfs > Uncheck Ovclock (Or take out the OC command line in the startup.txt and check the manual startup.txt from the launcher app) > Boot.
You should have great battery life now and phone should stay cool and go into deep sleep (Green LED light).
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Is it really necesarry to manually update the kernals and rootfs or can sov's XDAndroid startup utility be used to update them?
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Is it really necesarry to manually update the kernals and rootfs or can sov's XDAndroid startup utility be used to update them?
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Its not really necessary, but you'll know for a fact that your build's up to date. Thats what I do anyways.
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Its not really necessary, but you'll know for a fact that your build's up to date. Thats what I do anyways.
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Am I correct with these steps on how to do it manually?
1) Download the latest kernal and rootfs that you want to update
2) Unpack the rootfs file to desktop and copy it into andboot and rename it rootfs and delete the old one.
3) Unpack the kernal to the desktop and send the module into andboot but DO NOT rename (Delete old).
Rename the zImage file to just zImage and put it into andboot and delete the old one.
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well to be honest you are not going to get great battery life out of android on the tp2...yet. On WM with normal use I get about a little over a full day, android max is like 7-8 hours. The battery life has made great strides though recently and I'm sure will eventually be usable for a full day.
Try a program from the market called juice defender, it literally doubles my battery life when running android, should help with your heat issues as well
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My tp2 oc'ed at 768 runs for days in android. maybe its cuss i got the rhod400?
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My tp2 oc'ed at 768 runs for days in android. maybe its cuss i got the rhod400?
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Days? In Android?!? You must not be doing... anything. Plus have every radio turned off or something.
Wistilt2 was saying he was getting around 36 hours at peak, but that was basically all sleep.
I get 10 hours if I'm lucky, but lately it's just been dying out of nowhere and shutting off completely. Not sure what's up with that...
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well to be honest you are not going to get great battery life out of android on the tp2...yet. On WM with normal use I get about a little over a full day, android max is like 7-8 hours. The battery life has made great strides though recently and I'm sure will eventually be usable for a full day.
Try a program from the market called juice defender, it literally doubles my battery life when running android, should help with your heat issues as well
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The settings in that app are kind of confusing. Which settings do you use and do you use the free version or paid version. It seems some features are blocked out on the free version, do I really need the ones blocked out?
Manually Updating XDAndroid & Power Management
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Am I correct with these steps on how to do it manually?
1) Download the latest kernal and rootfs that you want to update
2) Unpack the rootfs file to desktop and copy it into andboot and rename it rootfs and delete the old one.
3) Unpack the kernal to the desktop and send the module into andboot but DO NOT rename (Delete old).
Rename the zImage file to just zImage and put it into andboot and delete the old one.
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Your post may seem OT but since current updates can be related to better power management its very relevant.
1) Yes, if you are getting:
Kernels & modules from dev glemsom: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/
Rootfs from dev stinebd: http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/
2) After unpacking / extracting rootfs-xxxx.zip either on desktop or Rhodium (using 7-Zip for WM [it's Free]) rename it "rootfs.img"
3) Yes. You can also unpack / extract the kernel & module archive htc-msm-linux-xxxx.tar.bz2 on Rhodium using 7-Zip for WM.
Equally important is using latest XDAndroid System. If your using Sov's Startup utility (make certain your using latest version as of this post 1.3.1) and his latest "reference" build, not Blazin, you will be current with the latest XDAndroid System [2.2] [25-10-10] (Oct. 25, 2010) FRX02 aka system.ext2 NOTE: If you update the system file you will need to delete the data.img file and that means loosing all your configs, downloads, & customizations. Using Titanium Backup makes this a little less painful.
Battery life is directly related to how you use your device. Some power hogs include overclocking, videos, and services such as GPS, WiFi, Data, & Voice. Many concerned with extending battery life underclock. Personally I don't subscribe to OC or UC.
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Days? In Android?!? You must not be doing... anything. Plus have every radio turned off or something.
Wistilt2 was saying he was getting around 36 hours at peak, but that was basically all sleep.
I get 10 hours if I'm lucky, but lately it's just been dying out of nowhere and shutting off completely. Not sure what's up with that...
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mine too, i updated it like half a month ago. i guess somehow it glitched and had super battery. anywhere from 6 to 8 hours is what i get until out of no where, nothing.
jordanthompson said:
I just started running the latest (not sure what it is, but I got it this weekend - 10/30/10) version of XDAndroid.
I am a little disappointed with the life of the battery... I charged it fully last night and drove to work with it in the car charger. I don't take my cell phone into work, so I put into airplane mode and left it in a cool area (like have always done with the same phone running WinMo 6.5.) I checked to make sure there were no apps running also.
When I went out for lunch, I was surprised to find that the phone was still warm and the battery indicator was down 25%. After lunch (I did not even use it) the phone was warning me that it only had 15% life left (and it was still warm.)
I put it into airplane mode after lunch - we'll see where is stands on my way home, but my guess is that it will be completely dead.
The same phone running WinMo 6.5 (and the same battery) can last for days like this...
Is this a common problem? (I have not found anything to this effect other than the battery meter being unreliable.)
Is there something I could check or do?
I am using the app to launch the OS and it has my over-clocking set at "Medium" ("Hi" froze my phone.) I'm planning on trying "Normal" tomorrow to see if there is any difference in battery life.
thanks in advance,
Jordan
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As long as I observe, in my case at least, the screen's backlight never turns OFF. The screen became black, but the light behind it is always ON, the only way to see this is in complete dark, otherwise all you can see is a black screen. Try it. In my case I'm shure this is at least one reason for short battery life under xandroid on my tp2. Interesting under windows the screen backlight is turning OFF in stand by mode.
As long as I observe, in my case at least, the screen's backlight never turns OFF. The screen became black, but the light behind it is always ON, the only way to see this is in complete dark, otherwise all you can see is a black screen. Try it. In my case I'm shure this is at least one reason for short battery life under xandroid on my tp2. Interesting under windows the screen backlight is turning OFF in stand by mode.
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I'm know what you mean i also have this same problem. When I first loaded Android 2.2.1 onto my SD card the sleep mode was working correctly for around 1 week or so. During that time I had a few crashes of Android, due to applications etc, and now its like u said. The screen is black but still 'on' in sleep mode.
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Just to add another field report...
I installed the "Battery Left" Widget, wich logs battery life and calculates an average. I'm always running on 3G or even WiFi if I am at Home and my average is about 30 hours a charge. If i'm doing nothing it gets this maximum battery life. But in normal day use with writing an email sometimes and doing a call it's about 10-12 hours. If i am at work and i use Navigation between my customers (between 1 and 3 hours one way), i always charge the phone while navigating and deactivate GPS when i'm not using it, i get 10 hours with a full charged battery at the morning. Currently i'm using the 11/24 kernel and the 11/08 rootfs modified to fit my german keyboard layout. Furthermore i'm using the newest combination of [ACL]'s tweaked 3D Driver and gralloc. No overclocking (no need for that, caus android is running good at stock speed) and pm.sleepmode set to 1.
Hope that is not a useless reply
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Hi sounds Nice.
Can u send me your updates files ?
German keyboard is nice for me.
Mit freundlichen grüssen
I'm running CM6.1 RC2, and the past couple of days I have experienced excessive drain, mainly in the first 50%. I attached a picture of the issue. I went to spare parts battery history to see the network usage, since in the about phone battery usage cell standby was 84% of the battery usage, and under network usage there was just an entry for 0, using the most network. When I clicked on '0' the settings application crashed. Yesterday it dropped 35% in 2.5 hours, before it slowed down. It was ridiculous, never used to have this problem, and the battery is only a couple of weeks old so it has to be software. Today it is at 53% after 7.5 hours, which is pretty decent, but at around 70% I disabled 3g and background data to save some energy for a few hours. Is there any way of figuring out what is causing this, or should I reflash? Could it be a CM6.1 RC2 bug? Anyone else having this issue? Thanks in advance
BTW I have no idea why the dialer was so high in usage I only had like MAYBE 15 minutes total of voice calls in 2 hours. The 0 is what I'm concerned about.
Anyone? Bump? No one else is having the issue? Still happening to me on RC3.
I've been getting that problem too.
I used to have battery life of up to 4 days (Mostly standby), now I'm lucky if I get 1.5 (Same usage).
I went in to spare parts and it crashed for me too.
Battery drain here too since cm 6.1
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Well '0' is he system's ID, 0 is root. In the graph the blue is bytes sent, red is bytes received. Have you checked other usage like CPU usage? That might be a better indicator of what's using your battery. Then from there you can start to narrow it down to a specific process or app. I'm using the latest nightly and don't have that issue, never have. I use a bit more battery than I think I should but nothing crazy.
Do you have wifi or bluetooth on? Those drain your battery like no other.
I havent used wifi at all today, unplugged at around 6:30, it's 3:45 now and I'm at 63%, but from around 9:50 to 11:45 and then from 12:20 to 2:20 I had airplane mode enabled since the time without a signal was at 70%, very low signal area. So it seems like for only 4 hours or maybe 5~ of non airplane mode time I should be at above 63%. I only had wifi on for a half an hour today. I'm considering going back to stock for a few days just to see the battery life comparison, and then nandroiding back to CM6.1. I always end up going back to AOSP-based roms in the end. I don't have a data plan on my phone at the moment, getting it today I'm pretty sure, so could all of the blue be from the phone continuously trying to access a website? But other people said they have the same issue and I'm assuming that they have data plans, so that can't be too much related. Hmm.
I also checked cpu usage and such like you suggested, there were a lot of things listed but all but two of them were too small to even have a bar. The two that did have a bar visible were minuscule to put it lightly, so that can't be an issue. Battery use in the about phone area always has cell standby at the top, normally between 40 and 80%. It would seem like there is way too much cell communication going on, moreso than normal. Cell standby stays at the top in even high signal areas, so it's not the signal levels. Kind of stumped here.
Well if the cell is in standby then it's linked to a tower and awaiting activity. Every now and then it 'checks in'. If it's doing that too often then that could seriously drain the battery. You're right though, I'd just switch back. Trouble shooting the exact issue wouldn't be worth the time. Maybe try flashing it again later, could have just been a corrupt download that didn't flash properly.
After conditioning my battery religiously (full to empty with every charge cycle) I am back up to about 15 to 16 hours from full battery to system shut down which is way better than the 10-12 hours I was getting when I first loaded RC2. CR_OTA ROM gave me up to 24-30 hours off of one charge with the exact CPU/2g/3g/wi-fi "routine" as I am using with RC2. Tracked battery usage with System Panel app and RC2 has a steady and even drain pattern ... an even diagonal line down the graph (100% to 0%). Cell standby uses a ridiculous 40% of the battery from full charge! On the stock ROM System Panel app shows plateaus throughout the day when the phone screen is off/sleeping where battery use is virtually non-existent. I'm going to load RC3 today and track the cell standby and battery usage. This time I am not going to use setCPU and just let the ROM run as the CM team designed it to be used and see if anything has changed. I tried this with RC2 and the battery still trended absolutely evenly from 100% to 0%. I can live with a 16 hour battery cycle for the CM ROM because it is very smooth and never has a glitch. The stock ROM is smooth as well but it has some buggy behaviors that I just cannot stand for and it does not run the latest GAPPS.
I've noticed i have exacly the same problem(was actually gonna post it when i found this thread)
Needless to say that on eclair my battery lasted ~48 hours constantly, not its drained in max 24...
The highest I have EVER gotten was 24 hours, and that was on a cm6.1 nightly build, pre RC2. I loaded cr_mod and experienced a HUGE drain. I had airplane mode on, just to test, and it dropped 7% in an hour, in AIRPLANE mode, with no screen on time. I went into spare parts and looked at the usage, and sure enough, "running" was at the top, with 99% of the time spent without sleeping. This has never happened before though, so I can probably attribute that to my modifications. I deleted a few apk's and de-odexed it before I flashed it, and I have a feeling something I did corrupted something else, so I'll flash plain old cr_mod and see where that leaves me. I should probably get back into the habit of full charge/drain every cycle. I used to do that until my battery started lasting longer than I was awake for, so I always had to plug it in at around 15 to 30%. I'll run some more "trials" and see what's going on.
Also, on an unrelated note, I love the stock rom, I always love the sense UI, but I hate HTC_IME compared to the froyo Latin_IME, is there any way at all I could port the froyo Latin_IME to the eclair stock rom?
Edit: also, I flashed dumfuq's OC kernel over cr_mod, could that have been the culprit to the battery drain?
Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Actually, by process of elimination, the kernel was the issue. I remember hearing about there being a bug in the older dumfuq kernels with something idle being null, I really don't remember but it had something to do with sleeping. I flashed pure CR_mod and then 3.5 dumfuq and I experienced the same issue where it wouldn't sleep. I flashed 4.0, but I think it's too soon to determine whether or not the same issue with sleep is occurring.
I tried doing what you said with LatinIME.apk, I even imported the lib file from /system/lib on CM6.1, but the it was nowhere to be found in the system when I booted. It wasn't under keyboard settings, and HTC_IME was gone. I figured it was an incompatibility between froyo and eclair, since the stock sense rom is eclair and the LatinIME.apk is from a froyo ROM. Do I have to something more than just adb push the apk and lib file? I also tried installing it with a file manager, and no surprise, problem parsing the package. It's a system apk so I didnt expect it to be able to install via a file manager. Do I have to use adb install instead of adb push? I'm wondering if htc IME is so wired into the system that it won't work that way. What if I rename LatinIME.apk to htcime.apk or whatever the name of HTCime is and see if that works, because the system may be is treating that as the stock android keyboard, rather than a third party one, because it is labeled touch input in settings, just like LatinIME in aosp roms.
I'll experiment some more I guess
edit: Nevermind, 4.0 is draining as well, albeit less rapidly. Ah well. I guess I'll have to go back to CM6.1 if I want to do overclock. Shame, I love sense so much.
ANOTHER edit: nevermind, you were right, it isn't the kernel at all. It happens when I turn wifi off. I'm assuming that's because I don't have a data plan so it's continually retrying a server that it can't access. I don't know why it didn't do this on the stock HTC kernel, but I'm pretty sure it's the issue. If I turn wifi AND mobile data connection off, it stays at normal drain as well. Well, I'm at 11% and my battery app is estimating roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes remaining, so I don't know if that's GOOD, but I'll give it a good full charge tonight and run it tomorrow. I hopefully will have data activated tomorrow so I can really test it.
Hey guys new to the slide forum but not new to the site. I come from the G1 thread and we had the similar problem. How is your battery life on a 2.1 ROM? I have my phone rooted with a Sense ROM and it has 2.2 and i do see a bad battery drain as well. I remember froyo ROMs battery life may not be the greatest yet. I remember that was always a big problem over there and it looks like it still hurts here. Have you tried setcpu settings?
Maybe this information will help, i forgot to mention last time i posted that i'm not using a HTC device, i'm using Samsung Galaxy S, and there are more ppl with this problem on our forum aswell, so maybe someone can use this information correctly, i mean, it's either a program that's doing this or some strange freaky froyo process that not everybody has? or idk..
We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
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Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Yeah that'd be cool. It must have something to do with that, since it's the cell radio sucking battery.
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I flashed 6.1.0 stable, battery drain seems to be slightly less. I'm still at around 5 or 10% below where I was at this time on stock, with 9.5 hours off the charger, current level 57%. Although, I did use airplane mode for almost 2 hours, so really I'm like 10 or 20% below where I should be. I just can't figure it out, cell standby is at like 80% usage in this ROM. It's ridiculous, is it the polling intervals or something? How can it be so much less battery efficient than stock?
I flashed 6.1 RC2 with a low battery and had trouble with battery life. TMO's service was acting very strange for a couple of weeks and my cell standby was consuming a lot of juice. Flashed 6.1 RC3 with a well conditioned full battery. At first I used no setCPU just to see how things would go ... 11 hours from full battery to empty. Added setCPU to RC3 and got 27+ hours out of a full charge. Either TMO fixed it's towers or RC3 was better with cell standby because my network usage was not cranking overtime like it had been. Finally, I flashed 6.1 stable with setCPU and I average around 22 to 24 hours on one charge.
One observsation - when I first flashed RC2 I was really into my phone again. I was constantly tweaking it and flipping through options, testing apps, digging new Gapps, etc. ... bottom line I was just using my device waaaaay more than usual and I think that played a huge role in my (supposed) poor battery performance. All seems to be well with 6.1 stable.
Hello.
I've just installed android on my HTC Tytn II (Not so Super Froyo Release).
It is very nice but the battery life is very short. I don't think that i can manage for one day without recharging. I think a couple of hours just. Is there something i can do to improve this? When i entered the #*#*4636*#*# it says that the android system is the one that keeps the processor running when in stand by. what can i do?
And another question. How is it better to install. On nand system and data? For now, i've installed data on external data.img. But there is not much room for aplications. Is it better if i install data on sd partition? And if so....how do i do that?
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Hello.
I've just installed android on my HTC Tytn II (Not so Super Froyo Release).
It is very nice but the battery life is very short. I don't think that i can manage for one day without recharging. I think a couple of hours just. Is there something i can do to improve this? When i entered the #*#*4636*#*# it says that the android system is the one that keeps the processor running when in stand by. what can i do?
And another question. How is it better to install. On nand system and data? For now, i've installed data on external data.img. But there is not much room for aplications. Is it better if i install data on sd partition? And if so....how do i do that?
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If the processor is still running while in standby then that means you have a widget or program running that's preventing the phone from going to sleep. When you install an app in Android always look for "Prevents Phone from Sleeping" where the app installer says what the app requires to access.
Also, as I have said in the help thread, there is nothing you can do about the battery life. It's Kernel related and being investigated, so until that time unfortunately battery life is very short because the phone's CPU while not in standby runs at 100% speed, unlike all other android phones which decrease their CPU speed and voltage when they are idle (sitting at the home screen or even checking emails).
Also, if you are installing into a data.img file on your SD Card, you should have about 256MB of usable space in /data, if you are running out of space with just a few applications, then you are still installing on NAND, as it only has about 90-100MB available depending on how you have your NAND partitioned, please verify that you have fstab set correctly in atools and re-flash your firmware so that it reads the /data partition under data.img instead of NAND p3.
BEst thing to do if you are wanting to install /data on SD Card (or data.img), is have /system on your NAND for best performance when Android is loading from boot. For quick performance, you should have /data and /system on NAND. For more space and stability, go with /system on NAND and /data on either SD Card partition or data.img.
Thank you for the answer.
I have another problem...when i'm recharging the phone...it says that it is fully charged at 90%.
blacki3 said:
Thank you for the answer.
I have another problem...when i'm recharging the phone...it says that it is fully charged at 90%.
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That means there is a incorrect battery calibration number in the kernel. Run atools and check under Battery Settings > Advanced Settings. If you have a 1350mAH battery (noted on the battery itself), input 2160 units.
If you have any other type of battery, take that battery's mAH and multiply it by 1.6 to get the battery units. If the battery continues to stop at 90% after making that change, and the battery is old, then the battery may be losing it's charge and can only sustain up to 90% of it's core charge.
Thank you. now i'm trying with 2160 set in atools. i will inform you if something is wrong
Another question. How can i see the battery status in %?
i think now it's ok. but still the battery life is very short. and somethig is keeping the android from sleeping but i don't know what. when i enter in the *#*#4636#*#* it says that the "android system" is the one that prevents from sleeping.
And another question. What is the difference between panels. If i am installing with panel 1 the screen looks very bad. Now i've installed with panel 3 but i don't see any difference from panel 2. It is ok that i've installed with panel 3 or should i use panel 2?
I need to know how you set your phone up, including kernel, system/data partitions, which build you used, what radio you're using, anything that could help me investigate further.
I have 2 AT&T Tilt phones, one for daily use and the other for testing purposes only. (nice to have friends with connections, I got them both for free).
My current "daily use" phone will use about 1/2 battery per day with moderate use (texting/Pandora/phone calls) and will last 3 1/2 days if I just let it sit in standby. 3G is enabled and I use Rogue Tools to O/C to 480. I get almost no FC errors and everything works as it should. (The only FC I get is with ADW, which I press "wait" and it comes right back). I was able to set up my phone on the wireless domain at work and ported my work email to it.
Again, I would need to know what you're running as it sounds like your phone is not actually "sleeping" when it should.
PoXFreak said:
I need to know how you set your phone up, including kernel, system/data partitions, which build you used, what radio you're using, anything that could help me investigate further.
I have 2 AT&T Tilt phones, one for daily use and the other for testing purposes only. (nice to have friends with connections, I got them both for free).
My current "daily use" phone will use about 1/2 battery per day with moderate use (texting/Pandora/phone calls) and will last 3 1/2 days if I just let it sit in standby. 3G is enabled and I use Rogue Tools to O/C to 480. I get almost no FC errors and everything works as it should. (The only FC I get is with ADW, which I press "wait" and it comes right back). I was able to set up my phone on the wireless domain at work and ported my work email to it.
Again, I would need to know what you're running as it sounds like your phone is not actually "sleeping" when it should.
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So...the radio is 1.70.09.1 or something like that, the latest 2.6.32 kernel. android build is valentine. I am using system on NAND and data on data.img. now i can use the phone for a full day of use but i have other problems. when i charge the phone it freeze and white screen appears. Usually i left for charge at night so in the morning i find it with white screen.
Can u please tell me what are you using so i can use to?
Thank you in advance
Battery life
blacki3 said:
So...the radio is 1.70.09.1 or something like that, the latest 2.6.32 kernel. android build is valentine. I am using system on NAND and data on data.img. now i can use the phone for a full day of use but i have other problems. when i charge the phone it freeze and white screen appears. Usually i left for charge at night so in the morning i find it with white screen.
Can u please tell me what are you using so i can use to?
Thank you in advance
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I've the same problem of battery life, can you tell me how to improve the fix for this issue...thanks