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I am currently a Blackberry user and a former iPAQ user. With the Blue Angel now supporting Blackberry Connect, I will finally be able to have a Blackberry and a real MS PDA all in one.
I called O2 to confirm that the XDA II supports Blackberry. I was told that the XDA does but the XDA II does not and will never.
Can I just update the XDA II software to get the Blackberry Connect?
Thanks.
I'd phone back and hope you get someone else.
As I understand it the XDA doesn't support blackberry, the XDAII does (as I have it working on one) and the XDAiis will support it in early 2005 (supposedly).
I'm waiting on the XDAiis Blackberry Connect myself as I have two devices sat here useless without it (or at least useless in so far as I could have bought XDAII's and a WiFi SD card)
On http://www.my-xda.com site, the XDA II supports Blackberry but no mention of Blackberry on the XDA IIi/s pages.
In the O2 Business brochure that I picked up from the O2 shop yesterday, it says "Blackberry Connectivity Coming Soon" for both the IIs and IIi.
That is the problem I always had with O2, depending on who you speak you get different answers.
nadimg said:
On http://www.my-xda.com site, the XDA II supports Blackberry but no mention of Blackberry on the XDA IIi/s pages.
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http://www.my-xda.com/xda2s_what.html
There's a bit just down the page which says:
Coming soon... From early 2005 the Xda IIs will support BlackBerry® connectivity so your email messages can be automatically pushed to your Xda IIs - with no dial-up and no waiting. Come back to this site soon for more information.
So it's there, which makes it even more suprising the guys on the phone don't know about it. Might be worth reading it back out to them when you phone
I've quoted the website in numerous emails to o2 data support.
the problem is that they have had a lot of compatibility issues between the device and RIM which apparently they are working on.
If I hear anything I'll let you all know.
I went into deatil with Blackberry on this @ TechED and also since then. They called me backn in response to my inquireies @ TechED. They even got a Cingular Rep to call me back and that was amazing in itself. The Cingular Rep gave me another contact and I have left him a VM (today).
I personally saw it working on an O2 Blue Angel @ Teched, I played with it a while, maybe I should have ROM dumped it but I was there for legitamate business and getting kicked out would not have been wise on my part.
Anyway, Yes it works on it!!!
Blackberry is going to contiue not giving us the SW, while Cingular is back in bed with GoodLink, so by the time Microsofts solution has fully matured, Blackberry is going to wonder where all of their clients went. Seems to me that they would hold onto us and keep the revenue flowing for as long as posible. Bad move on Blackberry's part in my opinion.
Raptor
With my current O2 Blackberry, I used the Vodafone realease to upgrade to version 4.0 from 3.7. In 4.0 there were some new Internet features that were not available in 3.7.
I used the Vodafone upgrade as O2, just like the XDA II x software, is always a few months behind. In the case of Blackberry it is 6 months and counting.
Can I proceed the same way with the XDA IIs? That is can I use the latest T-Mobile MDA softare to upgrade the O2 XDA IIs?
I don't really mind having a T-Mobile user interface as long as the BB Connect works.
Thanks.
Dunno
I've got the T-Mobile software on mine. It talks to the PC no problem and it becomes my blackberry device but I can't get GPRS connection.
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...but I can't get GPRS connection.
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You need to set the APN to blackberry.net and have O2 give you access to it (for a fee).
Sorry for being dense but how do I set the apn?
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Sorry for being dense but how do I set the apn?
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No idea. I am still using the Blackberry 7230. The XDA IIs is still in the box. I should start setting it up later this week or next week.
Check out this link:
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?r=50&a=224
This was written when the BB Connect was only released with T-Mobile Germany.
Note that to use BB, O2 will need to add the BB Bolt-On to your plan.
OK ta, will give it a go tomorrow and let you know how I get on. I wouldn't have thought that T-Mobile will want to play ball though as I'm not there customer and am trying to get a competitors device to work using their software. But again will give it a go tomorrow.
I've already got BB on my plan, it's a sim card from a 7730 that I want to use in the XDA.
...does anyone know if and when 02 are going to release a new ROM for the Exec?
I've had mine running now for a while with the Blackberry Connect software and it's not what you call stable. The service stops for no reason, or hangs or simply wont connect, I have to reset frequently.
I used an 02 Mini-S for a while and that was rock solid... shame the Exec isn't.
Thats the million dollar question.
Various posts about this with no answer.
I emailed O2 a week or 2 ago asking the very same thing. I did get an answer which basically said they don't know with no plans. O2 Cust service said they usually know a few months in advance but haven't heard anything.
How long is a peice of string????
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Thats the million dollar question.
Various posts about this with no answer.
I emailed O2 a week or 2 ago asking the very same thing. I did get an answer which basically said they don't know with no plans. O2 Cust service said they usually know a few months in advance but haven't heard anything.
How long is a peice of string????
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...our company got them just as they'd released the Blackberry Connect update, got that hot off the press straight from 02.
It's not such a bad piece of kit, the only wobbles I have are with the BB functionality and the phone... but then again as I said previously, the Mini-S was faultless...
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...our company got them just as they'd released the Blackberry Connect update, got that hot off the press straight from 02.
It's not such a bad piece of kit, the only wobbles I have are with the BB functionality and the phone... but then again as I said previously, the Mini-S was faultless...
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Guess your company should of pressured O2 into confirm/agreeing upgrade commitment contract etc...
Sorry, I wished O2 were better ie they release some great phones/PDA devices but still think of them as 12 month contract phones. Don't see the big picture.
Company I work for (one of the big banks in the UK) where trialing the XDA EXEC but couldn't really get what they wanted from O2.
Shame as all IT guys love the machine - just software was a bit pants.
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Guess your company should of pressured O2 into confirm/agreeing upgrade commitment contract etc...
Sorry, I wished O2 were better ie they release some great phones/PDA devices but still think of them as 12 month contract phones. Don't see the big picture.
Company I work for (one of the big banks in the UK) where trialing the XDA EXEC but couldn't really get what they wanted from O2.
Shame as all IT guys love the machine - just software was a bit pants.
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...feel enclined to agree... it would have been useful to be able to browse the web on them, but they tell us as we're on a Blackberry tariff Internet access is unavailable... tried several technical work arounds to no avail.
Odd really, previously we had some T-Mobile MDAIII's with Blackberry functionality and we could browse the web with them quite well.
We were hoping for some kind of Terminal Services remote control of our services over a VPN of some description with the Exec..but the lack of Internet access on them put a stop to that.
I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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...I'll not be too impressed if thats the case. I think the latest 02 device is the Orbit, looks ok, only seen it on the website though.
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...feel enclined to agree... it would have been useful to be able to browse the web on them, but they tell us as we're on a Blackberry tariff Internet access is unavailable... tried several technical work arounds to no avail.
Odd really, previously we had some T-Mobile MDAIII's with Blackberry functionality and we could browse the web with them quite well.
We were hoping for some kind of Terminal Services remote control of our services over a VPN of some description with the Exec..but the lack of Internet access on them put a stop to that.
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We decided to scrap the BlackBerries in favour of Mini S and Execs. That effectively brings in Exchange Push E-mail synchronisation, Phone Service and Internet access as well... not to say you can install GPS Sat Nav on them and other good things.
Granted, I had to understand how to make a Certificate Based Authentication to comply to the Corporate Policy, and having strong password is a real pain in the proverbial -- but still it beats all devices.
My only grudge against Exec is not so much free RAM; as a result Navigon MN|5 requires a reboot beforehand if you're going somewhere far - to prevent nasty surprises during the trip (esp. considering the goddam strong password which you can't enter with your finger...)
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I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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... Which is really SHAME, because there are so far NO "New" or "Upcoming" Phone Edition devices with VGA screen... Universal is one of a kind. Granted there are VGA devices with GPS - but no phone; or nice phones with GPS - but only QVGA or even 240*240 screen.
We've paid shedload of money and... once again guys, tough, go buy another one. ARRRRGHHH!!!!
Or shall we?
Screw this.
I guess during the Christmas holidays I'll just go and try one of the ROMs that can be found here - got nothing to lose and all to gain, and a good experience of flashing ROMs on previous XDA II Himalaya.
If these hold Push E-mail updates, screw the O2 updates altogether.
Sorry if this is not the best place to post this...I'm sure it will be moved if necessary.
Currently with TMobile (my Dash) and also AT&T (wife's phone).
Dash with WM5...I hated it.
Dash with WM6.1, I love it.
We'll be going to one mobile provider, looks like it will be AT&T. They have the Tilt, MotoQ, Treo750, Blackberry, etc...
Does anyone in this section actually use any of those phones? If so, do you prefer it over the Dash? Are the software upgrade capabilities basically the same? It will be used on AT&T network, I skimmed their sections in this forum but at first glance they didn't seem as "user friendly" or easy to upgrade as the Dash.
Gotta say, the Tilt looks mighty cool...
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Sorry if this is not the best place to post this...I'm sure it will be moved if necessary.
Currently with TMobile (my Dash) and also AT&T (wife's phone).
Dash with WM5...I hated it.
Dash with WM6.1, I love it.
We'll be going to one mobile provider, looks like it will be AT&T. They have the Tilt, MotoQ, Treo750, Blackberry, etc...
Does anyone in this section actually use any of those phones? If so, do you prefer it over the Dash? Are the software upgrade capabilities basically the same? It will be used on AT&T network, I skimmed their sections in this forum but at first glance they didn't seem as "user friendly" or easy to upgrade as the Dash.
Gotta say, the Tilt looks mighty cool...
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If you don't want to change phones, the dash will work with att. If you're ready for a change, I would stick with a htc phone if I was you. Then you get all the support you need here at xda, and tons of modifications available. The moto q I believe has gps, but otherwise is very similiar to dash, same story with blackjack II. I'm not sure if att has a working 6.1 available for the q yet though. The tilt looks good to me also, in fact I just bought one off ebay thats due to be delivered tomorrow. After using other brands of phones though, I wouldn't pick anything other than htc and windows mobile. Of course, this is just my 2 cents worth.
I think tha tilt is a great phone and the fact that you can still come here and get all the info you want about them. The dash as stated above will work on att just no 3g. What i would do is keep the dash untill you actually make a decision. if im right you do not need to buy a handset from att tell them you have your own they will keep you upgrade on file so if you do buy a phone it will be at 2yr pricing. wait untill you actually decide on what you want and then make the jump.
I need help please. It's not my service! (TMobile) It's my TP2. The signal is w-e-a-k! I drop calls all the time in my house now. I never used to do that with my s710.
Please, someone...is there something I can change in my settings? can i download something? I need to make this signal stronger. I did not pay all this $$ to have all these dropped calls. Can I change the "radio" or something? I think I read something about that, but I am such a noob. Please, someone guide me!
Thanks
Not sure if this will help as I am in UK.
I have just switched provider and discovered I don't get signal at home so went to Settings, Communications, Phone, Advanced, Band and changed network type from Auto to Gsm.
Don't need the 3G, data connection or whatever as have pc at home and get reasonable signal with phone forced to gsm.
I appreciate the reply, but that will not work for me. I use the data connection daily.
Any other possibilities people? Please. I am so desperate.
Does anyone have a solution ? Would a hard reset help? I don't want to start from scratch.
have you tried switching back from 3G to 2G? because if you get a constant 2G signal then it pretty much sums up that 3G signal is weak in your area.
Thanks. I don't even have 3g in my area right now. So that factor is out of the picture.
Will unfortunately have to wait for HARDSPL and new radio stacks.
There are signal boosters that you can buy off the net, no idea how efficent they are though.
Cheers,
Beasty
lol, Beast, thats exactly what I was going to say, a new radio helps in many cases. At least it did when I had my Dash.
On other news, looks like T-Mo let us down again, at least US buyers. No details were posted on their site concerning the TP2, as I posted earlier that was supposed to happen today. At least not yet. Oh well, only 4 days 'til Wednesday!!!!!!
edit: And @ Beast, or anyone who knows. Does the TP2 have an external antenna port? I use a signal booster, but used to have the external antenna adapter plugged in to my Dash. My next door neighbor is getting the TP2 also but doesn't want to ditch out the $200-$300 for a signal booster. I am going to give him my old setup if the TP2 has an external antenna port.
Thanks for the replies guys. I will wait for the HARDSPL. I will also be asking someone to hold my hand at that time b/c I have never done that process before. I am new to all of this flashing this and that stuff, but willing to learn.
how in the world are all you people getting the Tp2 so early? i assume it is not from T-mobile.
Got mine through Mobile Phones Direct It's available from a number of sources, in fact, including - gasp shock horror - Amazon (link!)
I am having reception problems too. I have a TP2 and a mytouch mytouch gets 3 bars tp2 gets 1 and goes in and out of 3g.
Select tmobile employees got the tp2 about 5 weeks ago ...roughly 5 in each market
so this could be the start of many people's reception problems...i wonder what will be done about it on the HTC end? Tmobile end? SHould be interesting.
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Got mine through Mobile Phones Direct It's available from a number of sources, in fact, including - gasp shock horror - Amazon (link!)
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the USA T-mobile Touch pro2?
Ah, no, not that one, sorry, didn't cotton on to your being in the USA - sorry
As to radio reception, anyone else got GPS receive problems at the moment? I've compared reception between the TP2 and my old iPAQ hw6915, and for the first fortnight, the TP2 outperformed the 6915: Now its the other way around - massively - the TP2 cannot seem to hold a lock on GPS, rendering the entire system useless.
Any ideas?
GPS Hotfix
HTC have recently issued a Hotfix for the GPS on the TP2.
Head over to the HTC support site. May fix your problems.
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how in the world are all you people getting the Tp2 so early? i assume it is not from T-mobile.
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They probably have the UK version, or Telus version, or....etc. I know the UK version will not work in the states. Well, nix that, it will work, but will not get T-Mob's 3G when and if we see 3G. (At least in my area, lol) You can only get the 2G.
On a side note, has anyone seen the T-Mobile version. I think it is ugly compared to the UK version. Da** T-Mobile, always changing things.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I will wait for the HARDSPL. I will also be asking someone to hold my hand at that time b/c I have never done that process before. I am new to all of this flashing this and that stuff, but willing to learn.
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Ah, it is not so techy. Tecky? hmm, got to think on the word there. I guess what I am trying to say is it is not a very complicated process. I was very apprehensive to flash my first ROM, but the first went so well, I don't think I could have asked for more. Just follow the guides and it should go smoothly. I flashed many ROM's on my (now gone) Dash. Let me put it in perspective though. I now own (sad to say) a BlackBerry, and with that you have to go through many complicated steps. However, I am getting the TP2, and that is one of the reasons. Flashing ROM's on the HTC device is a lot easier. After the first you will become Old Hand at it.
You should wait for the HardSPL, though, I think that is why mine went so smooth the first time. These guys are geniuses. They will have a solution before long. Listen to them and keep updated. They are willing to help, which is more than I can say for Crackberry dot com. Ooops sorry for the reference there. But you get flamed there for knowing a whole lot of nothing. Here, however, they might flame you, but lead you in the right direction.
Good luck and welcome to the Rhodium/Touch Pro2
k, thanks folks
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Thanks. I don't even have 3g in my area right now. So that factor is out of the picture.
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Errr, now I don't understand the original signal problem. If there are no 3G coverage then IMHO you'd better switch to 2G (GSM only). It will spare your battery too, I think
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Does the TP2 have an external antenna port? I use a signal booster, but used to have the external antenna adapter plugged in to my Dash. My next door neighbor is getting the TP2 also but doesn't want to ditch out the $200-$300 for a signal booster. I am going to give him my old setup if the TP2 has an external antenna port.
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No, it doesn't
Just wanted to check with the other TMO Touch Pro 2 owners. Does anyone have issues with the "my location" feature in GoogleMaps? I constantly get your location is temporarily unavailable. It seems to be unable to triangulate radio towers, but is able to acquire location if I enable GPS. I have updated GoogleMaps and all but it's still unable to triangulate.
Loving the 3G so far!
Any ideas? Thanks.
Works good over here.....
Download and install the new layers version...this should fix you up
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Works good over here.....
Download and install the new layers version...this should fix you up
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Yikes! Really? The TMO rep gave me some BS that it was probably cause I had the old 19.99 total internet plan, and that I had to upgrade to the new $25.00 web2go plan or something, but I honestly don't think thats the problem..
Menu>Use GPS
be sure to use QuickGPS to make a fix happen faster.
btw, download the new Google maps. much improved.
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=winmo
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Menu>Use GPS
be sure to use QuickGPS to make a fix happen faster.
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Yea I know, with the GPS enabled, my location works, but with it disabled, it is unable to acquire through radio tower triangulation which was the old school way before gps came with phones..
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btw, download the new Google maps. much improved.
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=winmo
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Mine is the most current I believe...v 3.2
clin0420 said:
Mine is the most current I believe...v 3.2
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alright, because the default one for the T-mobile Tp2 is a much older version. doesn't work very well at all.
and why do you want to use triangulation?
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alright, because the default one for the T-mobile Tp2 is a much older version. doesn't work very well at all.
and why do you want to use triangulation?
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Well even though GPS is best..its not the most practical sometimes because it takes a while to locate you and it also eats battery power like crazy.
Triangulation can find your general area quickly and saves battery power too..
i get where your coming from now.
i cant find any option to use triangulation. but if you just do a quick search for a local cross street that will get you in the right general area. probably just as fast as well since we have this big awesome keyboard
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i get where your coming from now.
i cant find any option to use triangulation. but if you just do a quick search for a local cross street that will get you in the right general area. probably just as fast as well since we have this big awesome keyboard
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thanks for your input, but whats really bothering me is whether it is because I have the old total internet plan and not the new web2go plan that I having this issue that others are not experiencing...if so, I'm wondering what other things may not work correctly for me...
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thanks for your input, but whats really bothering me is whether it is because I have the old total internet plan and not the new web2go plan that I having this issue that others are not experiencing...if so, I'm wondering what other things may not work correctly for me...
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I can confirm this issue as well. I have a grandfathered 5.99 tzones plan that I am using and so far everything works BUT for the my location (with GPS disabled) - it sucks
However, I am not that worried - this happened when I bought the Dash - my location did not work with the tmobile ROM. but when I upgraded it to 6.1 using a custom ROM, my location was back.
What truly sucks is that the my location works fine on my wife's jailbroken IPhone, on my unlocked Kaiser (custom ROM though).
So I am hoping once we have HardSPL and can get EnergyROM going here , my location should appear!
I thought i read online that google maps may not get location w/o gps when in 3g mode. If using edge, should work. The brief time i had the dash 3g, it did not work with 3g but if i was using edge it worked fine. Try turning 3g off and see if it works. I hope that something they do fixes it though.
T-Zone $5.99
Hi all, please help! I have the t-zone $5.99 plan and I have the T-mobile TP2,
T-Mobile Rep. said I need the $24.99 for the T-Mobile TP2 and the $24.99 plan will be auto. add to my T-Mobile account. Is this True?
Thanks
EightEight said:
Hi all, please help! I have the t-zone $5.99 plan and I have the T-mobile TP2,
T-Mobile Rep. said I need the $24.99 for the T-Mobile TP2 and the $24.99 plan will be auto. add to my T-Mobile account. Is this True?
Thanks
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True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
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True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
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Thank for the quick help! I going to put my T-Mobile TP2 on ebay and go for the Pharos 137, so I can keep my T-Zone plan.
EightEight said:
Thank for the quick help! I going to put my T-Mobile TP2 on ebay and go for the Pharos 137, so I can keep my T-Zone plan.
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Lol, cheapscape!
And I always reply like, instantly. I'm new here, but you'll get to know me!
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True for me. That's what they did. I didn't protest though, since I wanted the 3G connection.
Even on Edge, the full $25 plan is wayyyy faster. It just is really faster. Maybe that's cuz of the power of the phone, though. But I'm happy.
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So does your my locations work with 3g connection on and with the web2go $25.00 plan? Does it include txt messaging?
What APN is everyone using? The default on the phone used to be epc.tmobile.com, but I changed it to internet2.voicestream.com, considering that I was on the old total internet plan and maybe my locations would work then, but unfortunately there was no difference....anyone else do the same?
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Lol, cheapscape!
And I always reply like, instantly. I'm new here, but you'll get to know me!
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Yes, I am cheap. But, why pay $24.99 for 3G when you can have it for $5.99. I been using my SE TM506 Bluetooth connection to my eeepc for 3G for a long time and I am getting over 150KB speed all over the city. I love the t-zone plan and love to be cheap.
CheapScape
P.S.
Thanks again!
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So does your my locations work with 3g connection on and with the web2go $25.00 plan? Does it include txt messaging?
What APN is everyone using? The default on the phone used to be epc.tmobile.com, but I changed it to internet2.voicestream.com, considering that I was on the old total internet plan and maybe my locations would work then, but unfortunately there was no difference....anyone else do the same?
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I got the $25 plan because my family plan already has TXTing in it. The only difference between $25 and $35 plan is texting. Otherwise they're identical.
I left it on the default APN. Never touched it. Those voicestream connections were always slower, for me, so I don't use them. epc.tmobile.com is the way to go.
And Google Map's locate me feature works fine with cellular triangulation. Mine was defaultly using that, when I installed the new version of Google Maps. Something must be going weird with your setup. Idk.