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Need some serious help PLEASE

Hi.
My power button broke off and I was not able to soder it and so now I can't turn it off or on. I have a app that will do this for me but what I really need is to put my xda IIs in BOATLOADER without the need to press, power,record button and soft reset. So I'm asking if anyone knows a way for me to do this without the power button. I have searched and seearched and I really need some help here. I'm running WM5 but I am having problems with the backlight and camera and some of my paid software that will not work. So I want to downgrade to the original rom.
I will be watching this post every hour or so, your help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

that happened to mine, do you want to just like hard resest your device? THe only way is probable to take your battery out and let the internal battery drain!
I took my phone to my local phone repair shop and they charged £15 to it, apparently it was really difficult to do!

Thanks for the reply andy! I thought this forum was way better than this in helping people out. I appreciate your response. I do know how to give it a hard reset by pressing the camera and record button as I do a soft reset. But what I am trying to do is to get my xda to the bootloader position so I can go back to windows 2003se. From what I have read you can only do that by pressing the power button and the other buttons I wrote above. I have no power button so I'm trying to find out another way to roll back to windows 2003se.
If anyone knows please let me know.
Thanks again.

In the magician shipped-roms there's an executable to do this, maybe for your device too? If there's one you'll recognize it at once, just execute & its gone into Bootloader.
Regards, M

I looked and there is none in my ppc. I also copied that file over from a download I found here and it does not do anything. So far I have the WM5 running pretty fast, faster than ever! I just can't get the backlight to work and the camera. Tried every file and nothing gets this fixed. So I have to use my xda with the backlight in full brightness.
Btw, there is a way to hard reset the device so that it will run really fast. I probably will start another thread showing the steps, I think it is so worth doing it cause my xda now movew really quick.
Thanks for all the help!

My universal is a brick!

Hello everyone, my first experience of upgrading the firmware is sadly failed and now my beloved m5000 is only a beautiful paperweight!!!
No key combination could start the bootloader nor soft or hard reset works.
When I connect it to mains charger, the right led goes red for few seconds and then goes off...
In the service manual I have read that this signal means hardware failure but because the fault is the consequence of a failed upgrade I don't thing that it is really broken.
I already tried to contact htc and orange for repairing but in Italy where I live it seems that the warranty isn't valid and services are very scarce.
Someone have an hint?
Thanks.

Try to do a hard reset, many manage to get that white screen.

Thank you for the suggestion but it doesn't work The phone is completely dead, except for the red led. Any key combination including hard reset simply doesn't work.
I suspect that the only way to resurrect it is to reflash using a jtag interface.
But unluckily I don't own the pinout!!!

take a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instructions for those stuck on Boot Screen for instructions on how to use the mtty utility to bring your device "back to life"
There's additional information on the mtty utility in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=259003
hope this helps

If you are on the bootloader menu...
Try to flash again a complete rom + extended rom + Radio
SOmetimes it can work again

sigh... thanks to everyone but I can't reach the bootloader menu: the uni is bricked!
My only hope is to find the jtag pinout...

Try holding down Light + power for at least 5sec. and while still pressing, do a soft reset.
If you dont go to BootLoader then try to increase the Hold down Light + Power some more.
This worked for me, could again get it active on usb and ran my original rom upgrade while it was in BootLoader mode.
If that dossent work, try the bootloader upgrade version at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
You can do the same with the two - - buttons, holding for more than 5sec. then soft reset. Should bring up the Reset with 0 or X to cancel.
But it just reverted to a brick every time for me with this.

BTW. do this with USB or Power Cable plugged in!!

another possibility is that your battery is low enough not to allow booting but is still able to light up the LED. it happened to me a few times that i was thinking it was completely gone and it was just low bat. remember that if you have a non booting device it may not even charge the battery anymore so you'd better ask a friend to lend you a charged one, just to be sure.
cheers!

Ill Buy The Brick!
au$200.00 in your paypal account upon a sale +50 to Australia.
Let me know...
Simon

Still Charging
I have 2 wizards and a universal... By mistake, i have tried to upgrade the G3 wizard but pluged the G4!!!!!...... So now i have abricked G4 wizard. Now when i plug the G4 it does NOTHING, it is completly dead, BUT is still charging the Battery!!!! I am sure of this because i have tested the battery in the other device.. So try the same on universal plug it in and wait a few hours it may charge the battery.

anyway, if you can't unbrick it, do me me know if u're selling it.
need some spare parts.

Suggestion
What you can also try is remove Activesync from your desktop, Restart your desktop, install Activesync again and connect your device.
It's word a try! Has something to with rapi.dll!
Cheers...
Leo

My failure...
Hello everyone, I've tried all yours suggestion one by one and step by step but without success.
My last chance to not consider this phone a complete loss is to sell it as spares/repair...
Does someone is interested?
P.S.: notwithstanding the phone is bricked it still charge the battery

Try holding the the two - softkeyes for longer/shorter time before you softreset while still holding them down.
Also try different intervals with the softbuttons while holding the Power + Light down, also with soft+Light & soft+power & power+light
all with different intervals.
Look closely at the screen after each try, to se if it goes to bootloader mode.
And remove SD card and Sim also.

I Hate Bootloader!
I have tried ALL of these power+light+reset suggestions and I STILL can't get into the damn bootloader menu! I just gave up and rip apart my JasJar every time I want to update it. For some reason the only way I can access this menu is by pulling the main battery and disconnecting the smaller(watch battery) one in the upper right hand corner and letting it sit for a couple of hours.
Come to think of it, when I use even the factory updates I don't even get a report on the update screen telling me what my current config is! So then I hit update anyway, the unit turns off, I lose my USB connection, it no longer charges, and I have to take the battery out. Almost like the PROGRAM can't even get it into the loader! This is probably how I learned to just yank the batteries when I want to upload.
Unless there is something different because I have an earlier model... I have no clue. Does the unit need to be running or something when I do this? I think this is a fairly elementary task but it just doesn't work. Has this happened to anyone else?
Yes, all my buttons are in working order = )
BTW after my last tear-down I have -
Bootloader: 1.01
Rom version: Ivan-2.60.00WWE
Rom date: 12/20/06
Radio version:1.14.00
ExtRom version: Modified

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247440&page=14 I think someone already suggested this, but just in case...

No chances
Well, today I've verified my battery and it works like a charm in the uni of a friend. Then the last possibility is gone.
Someone knows how to go ahead any further?

Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power.

I have an extra Excalibur with the official T Mobile WM6 rom that isn't working. When I turn the phone on, I get a screen with a white background, red text, and blue soft key buttons that reads:
Device start up failed dueto s
udden loss of power. Please c
lick "yes" to continue.
Note:
Do not remove battery be
fore device has been comple
tely shutdown (OFF).
Yes | No
If I press yes the phone does a power cycle and hangs at either the T Mobile splash screen or the WM6 splash screen. I've had no luck with a hard reset. Anybody familiar with this issue? It isn't a huge deal. Currently I'm using a Cavalier and I also have a working Excalibur and a working Wizard, both with 6.1 roms. However, it's be nice to get this phone working.

Only time I ever seen that error is when I ws messing with editing a ROM and must of removed a file that screwed WM up. Now since you say it's the official T-Mo ROM maybe it got currupted somehow. How I fixed it was the Hard Reset the USB way. Hold down the camera button while plugging in the USB with the cell off. It'll load the boat loader and you need to reflash with an official ROM. Now I know you said you Hard Reset, but I've seen people explain a few differents methods all being explained as Hard resetting. This method worked for me during my testing.

I'm flashing the original rom and everything seems to be working alright.
I really appreciate your help man.

Okay, I wish I had better news but I'm still running into problems. After I finished installing the rom from T-MO's website, I powered the phone on. It showed the T-Mo screen, then the WM6 Screen, then played the T-Mo animation/sound. The screen stuck here, and the phone would not power off so I removed the battery and put it back in. I then got the original error message and pressed yes, and the phone lagged at the same point again.

how long did you wait for fist boot?

rickwyatt said:
how long did you wait for fist boot?
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Like Ricky said, how long did you wait? The first boot could take a while, the flash is going to perform a "Cold Boot Config". It take a bit longer that first time to load.

I actually got it to prompt me for cold boot config once, but after finishing the phone rebooted and hung once again.

I don't know, maybe you got a hardware problem. I'd try reflashing it again and when it boots the first time don't touch it and see what happens. If it hangs for more then say 10 mins. I'd say you might be having a hardware problem.

Hmm. I guess I most definitely have a hardware problem. An error of that sort would most likely be from a faulty motherboard, correct? I have a dash that was taken into the lake not too long ago. Everything recovered okay, other than the screen. The phone no longer turns on for a completely different reason, but I think the guts are mostly good.
Is it possible to change out motherboards? If so, is it unwise to try the motherboard that went swimming with me over the summer?

Well considering neither work, what do you have to loose? lol I say try swapping aprts and see what comes of it. I have seen cells "go swimming before and servive as long as the battery is removed right away and it's allowed to dry thoroughly. They don't opperate on much voltage so short curcuits due to water is not as bad as say a 12 volt or higher device.

Also, I forgot to mention the status on the phone. Okay, I can flash an official ROM and it will boot up and run Cold Boot Config. After that the phone will power cycle. It hangs a little bit at the T-Mo splash screen, but does eventually start. At that point it basically works flawlessly, except I cannot detect it through ActiveSync via USB.
Once the phone powers off, it will not turn back on. I don't get the original error message, just nothing happens. Only way to get the phone turned on again is to hold the camera button down while plugging in the USB cord, and start all over flashing an official ROM.

Yeah, I would say hardware failure. It's a complete new flash so it shouldn't be suffering from a software problem. Maybe the ROM Chip is damaged causing errors to the WM installation. Same thing as a bad hard drive in a computer that will currupt files and end up crashing the system.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Yeah, I would say hardware failure. It's a complete new flash so it shouldn't be suffering from a software problem. Maybe the ROM Chip is damaged causing errors to the WM installation. Same thing as a bad hard drive in a computer that will currupt files and end up crashing the system.
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That's exactly what i'm thinking too, sounds like a hardware error as a flash wont solve it.

So what piece of hardware is the most likely culprit?

I never took mine apart, but I would say it's the ROM Chip which should be soldered to the motherboard. If it is replace the whole motherboard...

t mobile dash
so when holding down the camera key and plug the usb do i try to also turn it on what am i looking for and how long do i hold the keys down
thank you

Busted Standby button

hi everyone
ive seen quite a few busted/malfunctioning standby button posts but none have had any proper answer other than to open the device and clear the dust.
ive done exactly that- opened up the device, blew off all the dust. but no help.
on closer inspection i realised that the legs of the standby button had actually come OFF the circuit board.
now..i could probably take it into a mobile shop and have it fixed. but i wonder if there is any software out there that could possibly simulate a Standby Button press?
this would be especially useful for flashing ROMs..

i am sorry but i can't figure out, how it should work. if it was some sort of cab and you "pressed standby" once, how would you wake up the device, you can test that with pshutxp. plus, the program would of course not be accessable when turned of or for reset. when reflashing the device, the prog would be gone anyway. if there was a remote program to control via pc, same thing, when your device is in standby, there is no pc connection, and again, no way to do it, while not being sync with AS. so the only actual access to that function is the hardware button itself, so instead of trying to substitute it, you should probably go get it fixed or order spare parts, or an entirely new device, which is probably the cheapest.
greetz
Chef_Tony

thanks for the reply
well i just need to press it once :S
to flash a new ROM
after that i can then reinstall the app (if it exists) to do any hard resets thereafter i guess......

zes, and that is the problem, in that situation, trying to start the bootloader, and also after flashing for the hard reset, you don't have any external access to the functions or to any programs on your device (since at that moment there are none, quite redundant). the one and only option to give the device the power buttons impulse, is the power button.
also i guess you're aware of the fact that upgrading your rom does not solve nor avoid your problem, you will still have no key lock, drain incredibly much standby time and once the device shuts off, you need to soft reset it to restart. if the button in physically broken, it needs to be physically repaired or your problem will not be solved.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Blue Angel Service Manual.pdf
that is the ba's service manual, in which you can find the exact process on how to change the power button, and if you don't have spare parts, you could get inspired on how to substitute one...
also, maybe posting a photo of the damage to your button could make people who went through the same be able to advise you exactly, since all my experience in the hardware section of the ba is purely theretical.
greetz
Chef_Tony

hi tony
thanks.
after the flash i can still access the clear reg hive thing by holding record and cam button..
that should be all i need.
as for waking the phone, i can set it not to disable other buttons while on standby, so i can wake it with Call/End buttons.
and then with that, i can use s2cu to software lock the device to avoid accidental presses.
but you're right, nothing better than getting it fixed physically.
i GUESS itll just require resoldering the little switch back on, as the damage is that 2 of its pins have left the circuitboard. i dont have the tools to do a small and precise soldering job so..
ill try to take a pic too and post one later

well i dug deeper...
seems that there is a 'Enterbl.exe' thats supposed to be related to enterin the bootloader without having to do all the hardware keypresses.
I've not yet had luck with this...dont know which 'version' i need..
so perhaps to rephrase my question:
is there an alternative way to enter the bootloader mode on the blue angel?
similar to the Wizard Service Tool (which i also tried out of desperation, though all it does is blink the BA's screen)

Touch Pro 2 Turns off randomly

I have this new T-Mobile Touch Pro 2. I currently have the Stock European ROM (6.5) on it. Before that, I was using the TMO 6.5 version. My problem is that the phone randomly freezes/dies/turns itself off while sitting idle. And every time it happens, I either have to soft reset it or take the battery out and put it back in to turn it back on. Simply pressing the power button doesn't do anything. Funny thing is that this phone is a replacement that was sent to me by T-Mobile because my first device was doing the same thing (which I had for about a month). T-Mobile tech support was just as lost as me. Can anyone here help me?

I have the exact same problem! Have you found a solution or at least learned the cause of the problem ?

Phone turns off ramdomly
Hi
I have the same problem the phone is shutting down ramdomly without any warning and i have to use the power button to turn it on again
any solution guys ??

Did you task29 the rhodium before flashing the new rom?
Sometimes flashing the new rom doesn't clear the memory properly leaving traces of old files to foul up the operation. Flashing task29 before flashing a new rom will stop this.
After you flash task29 there will be NO os on the rhodium. You will need to pull the battery, Put it into bootloader and then flash new rom from PC or use sd card method.
Cheers...

I have exactly the same problem, 2-3 times a day, I need to soft reset it. The phone was working well until I moved from 6.1 (original) to 6.5; I believe the new radio has issues. Any recommendation, flashing the radio does not solve the problem.

I used to have 1-3 SODs a day. Now I have only one SOD a month. My solution was to remove compact framework 3.5 and that weathersolution where you can add new cities. By the way; I upgraded to WM 6.5. Before the upgrade I had no SODs.

Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I recently acquired a Touch Pro 2 (RHOD100, original HTC model) and having exact the same issue. There's no saying when it's happening, but always during an action. Had it when pressing the End key after a call, when pulling the Usb cable from the device, and during other things too.
Hardware seems fine, battery is firmly in place and contacts are fine, and clean.
Having factory WM 6.5 Rom on it. And like mentioned before, I also do have Compact Framework 3.5 installed since it's required by some of my software.
Anyone ever found a solution that's confirmed to solve the issue?

I'm sorry for bumping up an old thread but after doing a search this was the first one that was listed which isn't 'That old'. I have just bought one of these phones, brand new, from factory. It comes with windows 6.5 and runs the OS version for the phone is - 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86) The phone seems to randomly just shut off without notice and to be able to turn it back on again to use it, I've got to take the battery out and put it back in again, then it will be able to turn back on. When the phone does enter the state of completely turning itself off. I have noticed that my notification LED light does flash green, I don't know why it does this. But if anyone has some help for me to sort this problem out and enable me to use my phone perfectly then that would be great!
Yet again, sorry for bumping up an oldish thread