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SO whens the next blue angle coming out? I have seen any rumors on a phone like the blue angle(big screen,keyboard). Is it a discounted model? It seem that HTC is making different models. I live the wizard, but the screen is too small for me.
Have you guys seen anything?
actualy HTC Universal is descendant to Blue Angel ... but it cannot be treated so strictly .... I think the best combination of all will be HTC Hermes. The screen will be a bit smaller but it is still THE machine
The next BlueAngel? I think maybe, closest in form factor and yet WM5 would be the Sharp W-Zero3
raymondu999 said:
The next BlueAngel? I think maybe, closest in form factor and yet WM5 would be the Sharp W-Zero3
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Sharp is very cool, but only for Japan and wont work anywhere else.
I dont like the wizard, its too small. My phone is dieing! Im missing keys. Its totally overused(1year and 8months old!). Time for a new one, but I dont like anything thats out. I just want the Blueangle that slides its keyboard out from the side. bigger keyborad, same size, but thinner.
but it looks like nothing is on its way.....
If you want a keyboard, its the small wizard or the huge Universal. nothing in the middle............
Check it out - HERMES + HTC Killers
https://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/
They are amazing....
I dont they they are manufactured by HTC.
The Ultimate 7150 https://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/ult7150.htm
has a 3.8" display, Notebook form factor, 110mm x 74mm x 18mm
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yeah awesome... but no builtin GPS
by Techfaith Wireless, but completetly designed by i-mate in house.It wud b nice to see them in hand and how they perform
if they are anything like the jaq, they are crap (which was the first i-mate designed device), if they are anything like the jaq3, they are big and feature poor.... the processor power looks nice tho.
-mix
7150 is 18mm thick? wow!
I'd like to see more pictures and maybe some reviews before I'd label this a Hermes killer... But I agree that they're cool as hell!
any ideas on the expected release dates? i couldnt find it anywhere on their site
You'll find more info here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6097.html
After looking at different pictures of the 7150 got a few questions:-
1) The external OLED will it display the Caller ID something I really missed in the universal.
2) When the lid is closed how do we answer or reject calls. On the pictures I don't seem to notice the call reject and accept buttons on the outside. I don't believe that we will have to open the lid to manage a call.
3) Still confused who is the real manufacturer of this series. Of course it is designed by I-mate but who actually manufactures it. One of the posts in this thread says it is Techfaithwireless but msmobiles says it is Arima. Also there are some which say it is Inventec.
4) The colour appears to be a mild champagne gold and the casing seems to be made of metal. Any views.
Regards
Noticed on the specs that the screen is VGA 262k colours. Does that mean WM6 can display that many colours as opposed to WM5 which only displays 65k?
I imagine that Hermes screen can display 262k but restricted by the OS to 65k .
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yeah awesome... but no builtin GPS
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Yes! There is integrated GPS!!! Please take a look at http://www.mobilitysite.com/2007/02/imates_ultimate_7150.php
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Yes! There is integrated GPS!!! Please take a look at http://www.mobilitysite.com/2007/02/imates_ultimate_7150.php
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thats interesting as the imate site and the FCC filings say nothing about a Builtin GPS...
Hmmm.....Trying to find a reason not to have buyer's remorse. Ah! No 3G mentioned.
Re metal case? Probably not. Wouldn't that interfere with radio reception?
Ben
EDIT// Had my coffee and reread. HSDPA is in there, of course! Duh!
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After looking at different pictures of the 7150 got a few questions:-
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2) When the lid is closed how do we answer or reject calls. On the pictures I don't seem to notice the call reject and accept buttons on the outside. I don't believe that we will have to open the lid to manage a call.
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Where did you find a picture of the outside? I can only find the one picture copied everywhere (of the device open).
what an ugly phone
gee you would think they put some thought into how it looks, the colour alone puts me right off
Sorry, I absolutely cannot trace where I saw those pictures and there was not just one picture rather quite a few of them even showing the OLED.
Just thinking there is a black strip on the outside cover running off-center across the length. My guess is that the call accept/end buttons must be in there.
Will do a google to see if I can relocate those pictures
Regards
Here is the link:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/i-mate-7150-Ultimate-Live-Pictures-47375.shtml
Just a word of caution though. I am being able to open this site through the opera mini browser installed on my hermes but not through PIE or Netfront.
Regards
SICK of viral marketing
I've posted a similar message earlier today... and I do this again... I am sick-sick-sick of these ridiculious viral campaigns...
I aint an insider on anything, but the 7150 looks like a prime case of vaporware.
take a look....
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=721
It was slated for a April launch... now it's June release...
No working models reviewed, 3 month after announcement...
Only pictures out are the same screen, with 11:13 inside and 13:36 on external
Yes, I-mate is "officially" talking about the product... i am not impressed
this gives me bad flashbacks of the Moto MPx (true collectors piece now )
opinions?
(i-mate- PROVE ME WRONG!)
hmm they have usb 2
Im not sure the hermes does it it does it only runs at a meesly 10mbit due to how it connects.
they look interesting though,
probably a good thing for HTC to have some competition, as they have a bit of a monopoly at the moment, maybe they will spend more on R&D.
So it can only be a good thing.
They look like some of the old ASUS prototypes, I wonder if they are made by asus?
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7150 is 18mm thick? wow!
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Heh its using an OLED screen :O
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/12/sony-1-000-000-1-oled-tv-on-sale-in-2007/
I am a Kaiser user thinking of upgrading to the Rhodium, but one of my critical upgrade requirements is to have a better screen than the one that came with the Kaiser. I am NOT talking about screen resolution (I already know that the Rhodium has higher resolution). I am talking about the light reflection properties.
The screen that comes with the Kaiser can be seen clearly when indoors, but it is impossible to see when you are outside. It reflects too much light. Other phones (for example on some of the latest Blackberries) have screens that can be seen PERFECTLY both indoors and outdoors.
Can somebody please tell me whether the outdoor reflection problems with the Kaiser are solved on the Rhodium?
I have a kaiser as well and tp2 is far better outdoor. The ambient light sensor and auto backlight adjustements really help...
I was going to ask the same question, so im just as interested in peoples response to this. thanks
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I have a kaiser as well and tp2 is far better outdoor. The ambient light sensor and auto backlight adjustements really help...
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I noticed you are from the UK. Have you tested it on a really sunny day? Because I am pretty sure that the results will be different on dark rainy day (like you have in London regularly...I am from the Netherlands, so its not much different) than on a sunny bright day.
Much better indeed
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I noticed you are from the UK. Have you tested it on a really sunny day? Because I am pretty sure that the results will be different on dark rainy day (like you have in London regularly...I am from the Netherlands, so its not much different) than on a sunny bright day.
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I'm from Israel, and upgraded my Kaiser for a TP2 a few weeks ago. Indeed the screen is much better, even outdoors on sunny summer days (LOTS of sun here. ).
It's still not perfect (what can ever be?), but the light sensor does help and if you choose your backgrounds well, it's great. I can use the phone without having to guess where things are (as I had to do with the Kaiser) and on the black on white background screens (emails, text, ...) it's even better.
I use it for turn-by-turn navigation on the car and it's good too, although the silver frame sometimes reflects the sun and it's a bit annoying, but it doesn't interfere with screen reading in any way.
I'm really happy with the upgrade and think the TP2 is the best phone out there by far.
I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
S
once they make it, and I'm sure they will, get a boxwave antiglare protector. I use them on all mydevices dating back to my original sony clie and swear by them. Problem solved.
The screen is not very good outdoors in sunlight or in shade. It is too hard to see. I am a BlackBerry user and can always see my Bold and 8900 in the car but I cannot safely even attempt to use the Touch Pro 2.
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I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
S
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Try here, they had some good reviews
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-ANTI-GLARE-LC...ries?hash=item518b4c35ff&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
sleonard said:
I live in Arizona and when I walk outside the screen disappears! OTOH, so do the screens of all other devices as well.
I'm hoping someone makes an anti-glare screen protector for the TMoUS TP2 soon.
S
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I can't understand why a company like HTC would release a brand new model of the Kaiser (now called Rhodium), and not fix the critical issues of its predecessor. The latest versions of the Blackberries work very well outdoors. I had a curve model 8900. It was not a touch sensitive screen, so I don't know if that could make the difference. Perhaps somebody with an iPhone or another touch screen device can tell us if they work well outdoors.
As a previous Kaiser Owner, and living in the sunny UK
The Screen of the TP2 is much better outdoors, the Kaiser was very bad for anything outdoors... GPS etc etc...
DOXBOX on Rhodium?
Hello, is there a doxbox that can work on the rhodium?
Would like to play Command & Conquer on this badboy.
Thanks for all the replies. It seems that most of you feel that there is definitely and improvement in the Rhodium screen characteristics which makes it useful when operating out in the open sky. That's definitely a plus point that is leaning me towards upgrading.
The other thing that I want to check before deciding whether this is a worthwhile upgrade for me is the video acceleration.
Could those of you who answered this thread go to the following one and tell us about your video acceleration.? As you provably know the Kaiser (ATT Tilt / TyTn II) has capable chips, but no drivers for proper acceleration and the video playback, games playback and others suffers as a result. I am wondering if the Rhodium comes with the right drivers to operate the video chips, and how the video performance compares to other devices out there. The Kaiser underperformed even really cheap phones, so hence my concern.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558791
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if you actually use the kaiser light to the highest! while outdoor, you should have a better view then say using the TP2. I was with my wife, and I gave her my tilt, until I get the tmobile agree to sign a new contract for mytouch 3g since I already have five lines...on a family plain. when I noticed her phone was bright I was like let me check mine, and I couldn't see....I think tilt is a cool phone even after two years....you know you better keep tilt if you don't need to upgrade...PS my TP2 was on auto light!
Iphone 2g is not very good in the sunlight, neither is the TP2 or the T-mobile google phones, either one. The BB 8900 is very usable in direct sunlight. Of the phones mentioned I'd have to say that the TP2 screen is the least legible in sunlight. That's the way it seems to go with cell phones, unfortunately they all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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if you actually use the kaiser light to the highest! while outdoor, you should have a better view then say using the TP2. I was with my wife, and I gave her my tilt, until I get the tmobile agree to sign a new contract for mytouch 3g since I already have five lines...on a family plain. when I noticed her phone was bright I was like let me check mine, and I couldn't see....I think tilt is a cool phone even after two years....you know you better keep tilt if you don't need to upgrade...PS my TP2 was on auto light!
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Quite surprised to read your statement recommending us to keep the Tilt instead of upgrading. I like it when somebody takes a bold stance like this one; but I would appreciate it if you could elaborate a bit more on your recommendation.
I live in Portugal and in the summer i have to go into shade to see my screen, but as another poster noted, I've never had any colour screen PDA or phone work. The only screen I know here that really works was a friends Motorola with what appeared to be an e-ink screen (black and white, looked like print).
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I live in Portugal and in the summer i have to go into shade to see my screen, but as another poster noted, I've never had any colour screen PDA or phone work. The only screen I know here that really works was a friends Motorola with what appeared to be an e-ink screen (black and white, looked like print).
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Is that your experience with the Rhodium or with the Kaiser?
I guess I have been spoiled! I had a Blackberry Curve 8900 and I could use it as a GPS outdoors without ANY problems what-so-ever with regards to seeing the screen even in bright daylight, without shade, etc.
The Blackberry Curve 8900 does not have a touch screen though. So perhaps the touch screen technology isn't 'sun and sky' compatible. Does anybody have experience using the new models of the iphone outdoors? I don't want an iphone, but I am curious to know if that touch screen technology suffers from the same problems as the Kaiser and Rhorium
I have a Kaiser and TP2 if much better. Go for it.
I purchased a Rhodium (Att Tilt 2) and I am very happy with it. The screen quality is a huge improvement. It reads well outside, reacts well, etc. My only complaint is that I miss the up/down/right/left/center 'joystick' like keys on the Kaiser.
For pictures check here
Does anyone have Tilt2 and HTC Touch Pro2 so you can compare the screen between the two.
I have HTC Touch Pro2 and just got a Tilt2. The screen coloring and contrast on Tilt2 is not as nice as Touch Pro2. The whites seem like they have a shade of blue, if you view the phones side by side on different angles the Touch Pro2 is much nicer again and the coloring seems off too. TF3D coloring does not look as rich or the right coloring on Tilt2 when compared to Touch Pro2.
HTC responded to my article on HTCPeida.com and admitted that the screens were different:
"Indeed, the Tilt 2 does have a slightly different screen from other Touch Pro2 models – the performance is identical, but while the color looks close to identical when looking straight (or nearly straight) on, this screen does have a bit more color shift than other Touch Pro2 models when viewed at a more severe angle. But, it is important to note that this isn’t a defect or problem with the code – it’s simply a result of the specific screen being used in the Tilt 2.
To be honest, when you aren’t comparing it side by side with another Touch Pro2, you’d never notice, but it does become a bit more apparent when you look at two devices next to one another. "
Um.. screens are 100% the same.. maybe you got a defective Tilt2
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Um.. screens are 100% the same.. maybe you got a defective Tilt2
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Do you have both? Are you comparing them side by side?
http://www.comeplaywithus.net/At0mAng/000 0052.mp4
Crappy video, taking with old digital cam but you can see the difference in screens. Both are flashed with identical ROM and clean install of ROM.
My wife and I bought Treo 680's at the same time a few years ago and hers was noticeably bluer than mine. Day to day use of it you wouldn't notice it, but side by side mine looked whiter.
I suspect variations in manufacturing in the LCD or perhaps even some of the other layers on top of the LCD.
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Does anyone have Tilt2 and HTC Touch Pro2 so you can compare the screen between the two.
I have HTC Touch Pro2 and just got a Tilt2. The screen coloring and contrast on Tilt2 is not as nice as Touch Pro2. The whites seem like they have a shade of blue, if you view the phones side by side on different angles the Touch Pro2 is much nicer again and the coloring seems off too. TF3D coloring does not look as rich or the right coloring on Tilt2 when compared to Touch Pro2.
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I have the Telstra TP2 and the tilt 2 side by side with same ROM in each and the Tilt 2 is definitely not as sharp as the TP2, it does seems to be a little more "blue". The blacks in the TP2 are more black and the white is more white.
Before I had my Tilt 2 I had a EUR touch pro 2 and the Telstra TP2 and the EUR and the Telstra TP2 were much closer in color, if fact I was not able to tell very much difference at all.
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My wife and I bought Treo 680's at the same time a few years ago and hers was noticeably bluer than mine. Day to day use of it you wouldn't notice it, but side by side mine looked whiter.
I suspect variations in manufacturing in the LCD or perhaps even some of the other layers on top of the LCD.
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This is true you can take any two phones by the same company and compare them and the screens will be a little different, if you never place the EUR or Telstra next to the tilt 2 you would never know because both phones are very good quality. But in this case looking at photos I shot with another camera and put them into both phones the TP2 was much better than the Tilt 2
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I have the Telstra TP2 and the tilt 2 side by side with same ROM in each and the Tilt 2 is definitely not as sharp as the TP2, it does seems to be a little more "blue". The blacks in the TP2 are more black and the white is more white.
Before I had my Tilt 2 I had a EUR touch pro 2 and the Telstra TP2 and the EUR and the Telstra TP2 were much closer in color, if fact I was not able to tell very much difference at all.
This is true you can take any two phones by the same company and compare them and the screens will be a little different, if you never place the EUR or Telstra next to the tilt 2 you would never know because both phones are very good quality. But in this case looking at photos I shot with another camera and put them into both phones the TP2 was much better than the Tilt 2
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Thanks for checking it out for me. Now I am stuck...nicer screen or 3G I guess I can perform surgery and create a hybrid
well crap.....you just ruined my day. :/
Honestly though, my tilt 2 screen seems MUCH brighter and clearer than my Fuze so I am going to ignore this thread and pretend I never saw it. >:l
I am however looking forward to an AT&T specific ROM from At0m.
iceman4357 said:
well crap.....you just ruined my day. :/
Honestly though, my tilt 2 screen seems MUCH brighter and clearer than my Fuze so I am going to ignore this thread and pretend I never saw it. >:l
I am however looking forward to an AT&T specific ROM from At0m.
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I have my AT&T ROM up. Keyboard works fine but for the OK key and you can use a small app to remap the OK key.
The AT&T ROMs have PTT, Video share, dialer and softkeyboard from AT&T ROM. I will have an updated version in a day or two.
Sorry to ruin your day but out of the Tilt2, HTC TP2 and T-Mobile TP2 the Tilt2 has the worst screen.
I had to AT&T Tilt's and one had a nicer screen than the other (whiter wights and brighter). I think sometimes the screen can very from device to device. It bothered me a bit at first but I learned to live with it.
I love the screen on my Tilt2, but this concept bothered me a lot. I just got back from a Verizon Wireless store.
I compared both side by side, I *think* you are correct that the VZW is slightly crisper.
But walking outside, looking again at my Tilt2 screen, I dont really have any issue with it at all. I dont see any tinge of blueishness in the white.
Its by far the best screen on a phone I've seen
Merge
Would be nice to merge threads so one with all model comparatives
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431
3rd Tilt2
On my third Tilt2 and all have had the same problems with screen. Waiting for freind to come by with her nice camera so we can get some good shots showing the difference.
For those still waiting on the Tilt2 I would hold off on it for a bit.
My Fuzes are bluer than my Tilt2. And I can say this for sure... my 2 Tilt2's are crisp and white. Must be a bum batch or something...
I have more pics here and will have more going up throughout the day.
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I have more pics here and will have more going up throughout the day.
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Nice link to HTCPEDIA, but do not see any side by side comparison pictures as mentioned above.
BTW, I had the same issue with tilt 1, My buddies screen was hyper white and mine has a blueish darker hue to it. But if you dont look at them side by side on a daily basis you soon forget and all is well.
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Nice link to HTCPEDIA, but do not see any side by side comparison pictures as mentioned above.
BTW, I had the same issue with tilt 1, My buddies screen was hyper white and mine has a blueish darker hue to it. But if you dont look at them side by side on a daily basis you soon forget and all is well.
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At0mAng,
Thanks for posting this information with pictures. I received my tilt 2 yesterday evening. After reading this thread, I checked my phone, and had the same issue. This evening I went to two stores, and in one of the store, there where two phone on display and both had the same issue. So I didn't wanted to replace my phone at this store, so I went to a different store, after telling the issue, the sales person, started a new phone and to my surprise, even that had the same problem. So I came back with my phone with out replacing it. I am still waiting to replace it, before I flash the HardSPL and the custom ROM.
Is this normal for the tilt 2? I think we should check the serial number or something to identify with out starting the phone. Is it possible to find which batch don't have this issue?
Thanks
Maybe it is all the AT&T bloatware sucking power from the backlight....
this has been documented
it speaks about this issue in this article here. http://www.wmexperts.com/touch-pro-2-head-head-head-head
Sorry att users like being said just put up with it.
loving my TMOUS TP2
Hello
today i got my fith hox, display is fine, no pixel erros, no flickering, not even touch sensetive at the sites.
BUT
like on my second handset the virbation motor sametimes make a hearable noise, like there is something touching it and "rattling" with it.
not that big deal, but after all the faults it is quite disapointing.
anyone knows a way to fix it? i dont think so :/
so i have to make a choice, keep it, replace it once more, or finally go for the s3.
i like htc, but with that build quallity there is no way they can sell devices to really happy customers
mentioned in some other posts
One of them: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699794