Hi all,
I've got my Rhodium and before I start experimenting with a lot of the stuff on here I wanted to backup my device in a working state.
I previously always used sprite backup which I got on a CD with my Kaiser for free.
I didn't get it for free with my Rhodium and it wouldn't let me install it on here cause it said invalid rom version.
Is there an alternative? I don't have any money as I'm off work sick following an operation so if there is a bit free of free software that does the same thing that would be awesome
Another thing I wanted to ask but din't think needed it's own thread.... On my Kaiser I had an action screen (using Hyper Dragon III) and I'd very much like to get that same action screen on my Rhodium if possible, does anyone know if it would work on this device and if so where I can get it on it's own?
Thanks all,
DJ
Try your local HTC support download - I can download Sprite 6.2.3.2324 from there
Mesquire said:
Try your local HTC support download - I can download Sprite 6.2.3.2324 from there
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Cannot find - got a link, perchance?
It's only available free from the HK version of the support for the TP2... Same as only HK have an updated ROM for the TP2
Think HTC need to start dishing out these updates and software etc for everyone...
Oh... pooh
And yeah, if they offer for one area, they should offer for all. Common sense, that, to make (at the very least) a basic back-up tool available, say a "lite" version of a commercially available full product... HTC, you guys listening, perchance?
Well, i sent them an email asking about it, so will see what response i get...
If you need a copy of it, send me a PM
Well, I would rather purchase a new one if it does not comes with your phone or even if there is a free one out there :> besides your TP2 is not a cheap investment. Better treat it well, if not your phone will be mad Good luck.
I've already had to perform one hard reset, so back up software would be most helpful
I've used PIM backup which is free. Works well.
Does it back up all the TouchFlo and WAP/MMS/Internet settings on a WM6.1 phone as well?
There is a custom area where you can specify which files/folders you want to back up. So as long as you know the files you need, yes.
The reply I got from HTC basically said that they have an agreement on the sprite backup software that it would be available only for asian market. If this gets altered and becomes available for more markets, it would be available to download from the support area...
Not holding out much hope there then! Good job I use spb backup already then
Just a quick question, if I needed to do a hard reset of my device, and then restored the backup, what actually gets restored?! Would I need to reinstall all of the software etc all over again!? Just wondering, as my backup is over 100mb, and I don't have that much in my phone that I've stored, so guess that a lot of it is probably files I have installed!?
Cheers
Good question. I'd like to know the answer too, as I'd certainly pay a reasonable amount for back-up software that not only backed up my files, but backed up all my settings aincluding registry and wap, mms, and net settings as well (it's save me spending twenty minutes remembering where I'd left the details on my PC, then labouriously manually copying them into the PPC again!).
lovelldr said:
.... Just a quick question, if I needed to do a hard reset of my device, and then restored the backup, what actually gets restored?! Would I need to reinstall all of the software etc all over again!? Just wondering, as my backup is over 100mb, and I don't have that much in my phone that I've stored, so guess that a lot of it is probably files I have installed!?
Cheers
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Well, you will get back everything you backup (full backup), if your restore from the SBP Full Restore. (Make sure it is a good backup copy). If you have programs that installed on your microSD, you don't need to reinstall them. It will run perfectly after the restore. (cos I have done it many times)
Note; the only thing you need is just have to resync with your PC (like contacts, calendar, etc)
Good luck.
Related
Hello,
I was wondering if i can somehow make a rom off of a running phone....
Basically here is my thinking...
I have a tilt (kaiser), and i want to setup something like sprite terminator (possibly something else) on it as well as some other apps, once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone..... that way should anyone ever steal my phone even if they did a hard reset it would only flash back to my rom and therefore my terminator already be setup again....
asjeep said:
Hello,
I was wondering if i can somehow make a rom off of a running phone....
Basically here is my thinking...
I have a tilt (kaiser), and i want to setup something like sprite terminator (possibly something else) on it as well as some other apps, once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone..... that way should anyone ever steal my phone even if they did a hard reset it would only flash back to my rom and therefore my terminator already be setup again....
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Your cooked rom will be always there even with hard reset
asjeep said:
Hello,
once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone.....
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Sort of - you can extract a ROM from an HTC device but, as said above, it won't include any changes made by you after hardreset. All it will do is to take the ROM that sets up Windows, etc. for you. It will only do the same job if you then take that ROM and install it on the same device or elsewhere.
What you probably want to do get a kitchen and cook in these apps. In most cases you can also cook in all your personal settings for those programs and for windows itself.
If you go far enough into cooking kitchens, you'll eventually be able to make a ROM which is, after a hard reset, already set up precisely the way it would be if you hard reset and install all your apps and change all of the setting both in Control Panel items and in your apps. All that could be there smiling at you after a hard reset as you want it to be, but you'll have to cook a ROM to make it so.
Another option is to use an auto-installer for cabs, although that would only make setup easier and can be circumvented pre soft resetting before the installs kick off so it wouldn't have the security of having your name and theft-prevention software already set up.
In my case, my Hermes does come completely setup with all my preferred windows and apps settings, as if I'd spent hours setting up after a hard reset. Mostly this is done by a big cab in Preconfig and most settings in the ROM's registry from cooking with a rgu file. A big one.
(I'm working - albeit slowly - on some simple tools that can help in creating one's own single, personal OEM to add into a kitchen and has all of your settings and apps in it. I just need to work out how to automate some cabwiz functions that currently I'm using some expensive-ish software for which I can't expect others to buy. Can't give out my own 'big cab' even to help as an example I'm afraid as it's got all kinds of paid-for or private stuff in and it'll take ages to unpick. Should I not get this simple tool going as I want, I'll probably just write a page on wiki or something as it's still easier than going through the whole process of cooking in many apps and your windows folder wil be much, much cleaner and your phone a lot faster if you do it this way.)
Great thanks so much for all the help.... BTW tried sprite and it only caused my tilt to not download emails from exchange so it came off and time for another hard reset
First, just wanted to say thanks to all that have donated their time, brains and energy for all the updates and suggestions. I think it's definitely worth a paypal donation even if it's only 10 bucks.
Second, I'm surprised (not sure why though) at the lack of using the search button. Sometimes it takes some digging but generally with enough of it, the answer is there.
Okay, now for my stupid question. (Yes, I did do a search first... )
I've made the tweaks I wanted to do and I've backed up my system. My question is, if I do a ROM upgrade and then do a restore, will the restore put my tweaks back in it or do I have to start all over?
Thanks,
Mark
PS. Obviously everyone has an opinions but on average, was it worth doing the 1.37 ROM upgrade?
what kind of backup did you do? what ROM are you flashing to?
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what kind of backup did you do? what ROM are you flashing to?
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I used Sprite backup and I've got 1.35.456.3 WWE and I was looking at the 1.37 ROM upgrade for my Diamond.
Sers,
it is good to see somebody new here who follows the rules and searches!! There's really a lack in that for the past weeks ( especially since diamond's release ) !
I dont know what tweaks you did especially, but generally registry tweaks etc. gets lost if you flash a new rom.
You could even back up your registry but I wouldn't recommend that because in case of an update there will be some changes in reg before.
If dont want to install all your apps ever again try SASHIMI - that's an customizable auto installer for apps and maybe reg-tweaks too!
regards
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Sers,
it is good to see somebody new here who follows the rules and searches!! There's really a lack in that for the past weeks ( especially since diamond's release ) !
I dont know what tweaks you did especially, but generally registry tweaks etc. gets lost if you flash a new rom.
You could even back up your registry but I wouldn't recommend that because in case of an update there will be some changes in reg before.
If dont want to install all your apps ever again try SASHIMI - that's an customizable auto installer for apps and maybe reg-tweaks too!
regards
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I know what you mean. I read all 50 pages and if I had to read one more time where can I get this program, how do I install this, blah, blah, blah... wow, I can see how it gets frustrating for those that have a) the knowledge already b) have posted the answer 1000 times.
I understand that sometimes you just don't feel like chasing something down but for basic questions... they need to search.
As far as my mods, they're simple. I did the battery one (disableling auto-attach) and #1 on the list.
Both are easy to reinstall.
I guess my question was if I use Sprite to back up programs and then do a ROM update, using Sprite to reinstall those programs won't affect the new ROM, will it?
I'm assuming Sprite backups programs, not registry changes too.
I ask because I don't want to backup with Sprite, do the ROM update and then use Sprite and have it put the old registry back into it.
Or does Sprite copy the registry also?
Thanks,
Mark
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I know what you mean. I read all 50 pages and if I had to read one more time where can I get this program, how do I install this, blah, blah, blah... wow, I can see how it gets frustrating for those that have a) the knowledge already b) have posted the answer 1000 times.
I understand that sometimes you just don't feel like chasing something down but for basic questions... they need to search.
As far as my mods, they're simple. I did the battery one (disableling auto-attach) and #1 on the list.
Both are easy to reinstall.
I guess my question was if I use Sprite to back up programs and then do a ROM update, using Sprite to reinstall those programs won't affect the new ROM, will it?
I'm assuming Sprite backups programs, not registry changes too.
I ask because I don't want to backup with Sprite, do the ROM update and then use Sprite and have it put the old registry back into it.
Or does Sprite copy the registry also?
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi Mark, welcome to xda-dev,
Sprite Backup copy the registry also.
Some apps are key in the registry to operate properly.
That is why you must avoid making a restore of your old ROM on your new ROM.
yeah its not recommended.. unless you're updating to a newer version of the same ROM, provided the chef hasn't done new registry tweaks.. or your old registry will reverse the new tweaks.. SASHIMI is recommended for sure..
welcome new person
no question is silly......unless its been asked many times before.
enjoy your diamond and have fun in this forum!
Thanks guys.... I'll buy the other program instead of using sprite.
Much appreciated.
Mark
Hi Folks,
What is the best approach to backing up the TP2 when installing new S/W. Thus if the system does break one can roll back to the working version, a bit like implementing some form of "system restore".
Also what is the best method for backing up files in general... I guess this is ActiveSync to the laptop or wherever.
Thanks,
Sam
I use SpriteBackup for backuping stuff. It works very well and can backup almost anything (apps, settings, personal files, etc.). I used it when i installed a new ROM on my device and i had it back to normal after the installation in no time.
Kork,
Thanks, it looks good... Must be good if the founders made Ghost as it was in the old days...
Sam
About to flash my first new ROM on my USA T-Mobile TP2.
I've chosen the EnergyROM_23504_RHODIUM_08.Nov.2009_Standard as it appears to be getting good reviews.
My main concern though, having already installed so many extra programs, is can I still do a restore (using SPB Backup) from a backup I made on the stock T-Mobile 6.1 ROM? I would assume not, but man would it be nice if I could!
Please advise. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Jeff
You should not loose any data by trying. If it does not work then flash back to a 6.1 ROM. Another thing to try is by using the new free Microsoft program "my mobile" (I think that is what it is called, not by my device) before flashing back to a 6.5 ROM. The Microsoft backup does work when going to upgrade versions of the OS.
P.S. I am assuming that you are going from 6.1 to 6.5. If it is the same OS version then before, you should have no problems
SPB 2 has a "ROM Upgrade" mode. It should work. Sometimes a program or two may be finicky though.
Thanks to you both. I'll give it a go and report back on how it went.
Jeff
Just to close this out - I decided not to try, since I figured the only apps I really even needed to reinstall were Resoe Explorer (like the finger-friendliness of it), TV Guide, and CorePlayer.
Figured it'd keep it nice and clean to just reinstall them, which only took a couple minutes anyways.
Thanks for the help though!
Does anyone know if it is possible to take an entire backup image of your HD rom so you can later restore from it? I guess this would be like making a ROM backup from your device that you could later burn back to the device as a restore.
It's common when screwing around with theme hacks to stuff manilla and then have to go back to reburning a rom and setting it back up again. I saaw there's tools that try to backup/restore settings but it would be nice to be able to restore from a complete device state (kind of like using Ghost to backup/restore a Windows desktop image).
From my very noob knowledge I'm wondering if you can use the rom tools to do something like this (tools for cooking the roms, the RUU tools used for loading the roms on the device and HSPL/SPL/USPL, etc)...?
nope, sorry mate, there are no noob tools around for backing up.
Only things like PPCPimbackup for backing up your contacts, calendar, text messages, custom folders, and more.
You could also use SASHIMI. It can be very difficult to use it, but if you only want programs installed and your email configured automagically, then it's quite easy. Just watch the first two demonstrations on youtube.
Seriously, only play with your phone if you know how to fix a broken one. Or make sure you have enough cash to just buy a new one
thanks - all good advice. although have to say the tutorials and advice here is ample for you to experiment in an educated way. great site.
so nobody is doing entire rom backups except for the top l33ts eh? I could understand why based on the fact these are not just mini pc's...whole different ball game
cheers
Sprite Backup???
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Sprite Backup???
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Hey now that other product they do "SpriteClone" looks like it is exactly what I'm after;
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-clone
...albeit it's $300 because it's designed for corporate/enterprise. Thanks for that link...wonder if anyone knows of a product like that designed for personal use?
SPB Backup is the best
I usually use it to restore all my files and unstalled softwares when changing the ROM
BUT
the new ROM should be of the same type as the older one, i.e., if you are on COM2 upgrading the ROM should be to a COM2 type too and so on
Thanks - SPB Backup looks like an affordable yet sturdy solution. I guess whatr you mean about matching ROM's is fine provided you are restoring to the same rom/hardware you backed up from?