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mms restore method for post rom update?

Good morning! So, before updating to the newest dopod rom on my qtek 9000, I figured I'd be wise and cover my bases by backing my email/sms/mms up via sprite AND spb just to make sure of a good back up method, and even tested restoring them without incident. Well... that's where the goodness left off. I was silly and hand taken the time to read up on the restore process, and after the rom update, when I ran a restore, even of just the emails, it manages to hose the entire system. So, looks like I'm gonna be tryin to flash back down to the old rom and restore the stuff... and figure some way to export it all, then import it into the new configuration. Anybody got any ideas?

chainsawbeer said:
Good morning! So, before updating to the newest dopod rom on my qtek 9000, I figured I'd be wise and cover my bases by backing my email/sms/mms up via sprite AND spb just to make sure of a good back up method, and even tested restoring them without incident. Well... that's where the goodness left off. I was silly and hand taken the time to read up on the restore process, and after the rom update, when I ran a restore, even of just the emails, it manages to hose the entire system. So, looks like I'm gonna be tryin to flash back down to the old rom and restore the stuff... and figure some way to export it all, then import it into the new configuration. Anybody got any ideas?
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You may have missed the official tutorial on Device Upgrade mode - you MUST remove all POP3 accounts before backing up.

Free backup software?

Hi all,
I've got my Rhodium and before I start experimenting with a lot of the stuff on here I wanted to backup my device in a working state.
I previously always used sprite backup which I got on a CD with my Kaiser for free.
I didn't get it for free with my Rhodium and it wouldn't let me install it on here cause it said invalid rom version.
Is there an alternative? I don't have any money as I'm off work sick following an operation so if there is a bit free of free software that does the same thing that would be awesome
Another thing I wanted to ask but din't think needed it's own thread.... On my Kaiser I had an action screen (using Hyper Dragon III) and I'd very much like to get that same action screen on my Rhodium if possible, does anyone know if it would work on this device and if so where I can get it on it's own?
Thanks all,
DJ

Try your local HTC support download - I can download Sprite 6.2.3.2324 from there

Mesquire said:
Try your local HTC support download - I can download Sprite 6.2.3.2324 from there
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Cannot find - got a link, perchance?

It's only available free from the HK version of the support for the TP2... Same as only HK have an updated ROM for the TP2
Think HTC need to start dishing out these updates and software etc for everyone...

Oh... pooh
And yeah, if they offer for one area, they should offer for all. Common sense, that, to make (at the very least) a basic back-up tool available, say a "lite" version of a commercially available full product... HTC, you guys listening, perchance?

Well, i sent them an email asking about it, so will see what response i get...

If you need a copy of it, send me a PM

Well, I would rather purchase a new one if it does not comes with your phone or even if there is a free one out there :> besides your TP2 is not a cheap investment. Better treat it well, if not your phone will be mad Good luck.

I've already had to perform one hard reset, so back up software would be most helpful

I've used PIM backup which is free. Works well.

Does it back up all the TouchFlo and WAP/MMS/Internet settings on a WM6.1 phone as well?

There is a custom area where you can specify which files/folders you want to back up. So as long as you know the files you need, yes.

The reply I got from HTC basically said that they have an agreement on the sprite backup software that it would be available only for asian market. If this gets altered and becomes available for more markets, it would be available to download from the support area...
Not holding out much hope there then! Good job I use spb backup already then
Just a quick question, if I needed to do a hard reset of my device, and then restored the backup, what actually gets restored?! Would I need to reinstall all of the software etc all over again!? Just wondering, as my backup is over 100mb, and I don't have that much in my phone that I've stored, so guess that a lot of it is probably files I have installed!?
Cheers

Good question. I'd like to know the answer too, as I'd certainly pay a reasonable amount for back-up software that not only backed up my files, but backed up all my settings aincluding registry and wap, mms, and net settings as well (it's save me spending twenty minutes remembering where I'd left the details on my PC, then labouriously manually copying them into the PPC again!).

lovelldr said:
.... Just a quick question, if I needed to do a hard reset of my device, and then restored the backup, what actually gets restored?! Would I need to reinstall all of the software etc all over again!? Just wondering, as my backup is over 100mb, and I don't have that much in my phone that I've stored, so guess that a lot of it is probably files I have installed!?
Cheers
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Well, you will get back everything you backup (full backup), if your restore from the SBP Full Restore. (Make sure it is a good backup copy). If you have programs that installed on your microSD, you don't need to reinstall them. It will run perfectly after the restore. (cos I have done it many times)
Note; the only thing you need is just have to resync with your PC (like contacts, calendar, etc)
Good luck.

Backup the whole bits of data in the pda

Hi guys, there are so many roms created for the TD, Hail the chefs !!! and I would like to try some of them !
the problem is, my TD has gone productive for some months and if I flash another rom but I don't like it and want to go back to the latest state I need to do again the whole hassle (mitty or flash stock, flashing the good old rom, automated installation of programs, do settings, sync the data, restore messages from backup, and so on so forth...). for me this process will take at least 5 hours
i am just wondering if there is a tool to backup all data (rom, phone settings, installed programs, settings of all programs installed, pim, internal storage) in the phone. basically, the whole bits of data in the pda.
I believe with the existence of this tool there are many more people would like to try the new roms and find their best suited one

Super backup/restore

Does anyone know if it is possible to take an entire backup image of your HD rom so you can later restore from it? I guess this would be like making a ROM backup from your device that you could later burn back to the device as a restore.
It's common when screwing around with theme hacks to stuff manilla and then have to go back to reburning a rom and setting it back up again. I saaw there's tools that try to backup/restore settings but it would be nice to be able to restore from a complete device state (kind of like using Ghost to backup/restore a Windows desktop image).
From my very noob knowledge I'm wondering if you can use the rom tools to do something like this (tools for cooking the roms, the RUU tools used for loading the roms on the device and HSPL/SPL/USPL, etc)...?

nope, sorry mate, there are no noob tools around for backing up.
Only things like PPCPimbackup for backing up your contacts, calendar, text messages, custom folders, and more.
You could also use SASHIMI. It can be very difficult to use it, but if you only want programs installed and your email configured automagically, then it's quite easy. Just watch the first two demonstrations on youtube.
Seriously, only play with your phone if you know how to fix a broken one. Or make sure you have enough cash to just buy a new one

thanks - all good advice. although have to say the tutorials and advice here is ample for you to experiment in an educated way. great site.
so nobody is doing entire rom backups except for the top l33ts eh? I could understand why based on the fact these are not just mini pc's...whole different ball game
cheers

Sprite Backup???

telegraph0000 said:
Sprite Backup???
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Hey now that other product they do "SpriteClone" looks like it is exactly what I'm after;
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-clone
...albeit it's $300 because it's designed for corporate/enterprise. Thanks for that link...wonder if anyone knows of a product like that designed for personal use?

SPB Backup is the best
I usually use it to restore all my files and unstalled softwares when changing the ROM
BUT
the new ROM should be of the same type as the older one, i.e., if you are on COM2 upgrading the ROM should be to a COM2 type too and so on

Thanks - SPB Backup looks like an affordable yet sturdy solution. I guess whatr you mean about matching ROM's is fine provided you are restoring to the same rom/hardware you backed up from?

Rom backup tool

I think it would be very useful to have available a tool which could dump to the sd card the rom that is currently on the phone, all settings, pim data, etc. and make so all you have to do is flash the rom and when its done, everything is as it was. Kind of like making restore points on your pc. Currently it seems people are using a combination of this to do that, that to do this, and there is a kinda steep learning curve for new users, and experienced users are still taking 1/2 hr to an hr to set everything up after flashing and it seems every chef has thier preferred autoinstall stuff cooked in. I would be willing to donate $50 to author of a working tool such as I have described but it would have to restore everything, just t29, flash the b/u rom and ur in business, and it would have to be noob friendly at least for the most part as this tool would be a preferred method for newer users. I think such a tool would make experimentation with apps and modifications, rom building/testing much safer and faster for people just to flash back to a stable rom all set up if something doesnt go right. I know theres some seriously smart people here at xda, hopefully some of you could look into creating a tool that would benifit many people, and hopefully more people would be willing to donate for such a tool.

huggs said:
I think it would be very useful to have available a tool which could dump to the sd card the rom that is currently on the phone, all settings, pim data, etc. and make so all you have to do is flash the rom and when its done, everything is as it was. Kind of like making restore points on your pc. Currently it seems people are using a combination of this to do that, that to do this, and there is a kinda steep learning curve for new users, and experienced users are still taking 1/2 hr to an hr to set everything up after flashing and it seems every chef has thier preferred autoinstall stuff cooked in. I would be willing to donate $50 to author of a working tool such as I have described but it would have to restore everything, just t29, flash the b/u rom and ur in business, and it would have to be noob friendly at least for the most part as this tool would be a preferred method for newer users. I think such a tool would make experimentation with apps and modifications, rom building/testing much safer and faster for people just to flash back to a stable rom all set up if something doesnt go right. I know theres some seriously smart people here at xda, hopefully some of you could look into creating a tool that would benifit many people, and hopefully more people would be willing to donate for such a tool.
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The problem is that when you backup program items, it also backs up the registry entries, and those entries may vary between ROMS. I use SPB Backup on my system, but ONLY restore to the same ROM version - to avoid this very issue.
The absolute safest way to flash a new ROM is to use activesync to backup your contacts, emails, and schedule (plus mobile shortcuts), and then flash. Then manually install each of your programs onto the phone. This ensures that your phone will be setup to match the OS. Then restore your contacts, etc, by using activesync again.
There are various solutions to get around this (I use XDA_UC myself), but that requires some reading and knowledge.

stevedebi said:
The problem is that when you backup program items, it also backs up the registry entries, and those entries may vary between ROMS. I use SPB Backup on my system, but ONLY restore to the same ROM version - to avoid this very issue.
The absolute safest way to flash a new ROM is to use activesync to backup your contacts, emails, and schedule (plus mobile shortcuts), and then flash. Then manually install each of your programs onto the phone. This ensures that your phone will be setup to match the OS. Then restore your contacts, etc, by using activesync again.
There are various solutions to get around this (I use XDA_UC myself), but that requires some reading and knowledge.
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Right, I understand about reg entries not matching between roms, I'm saying to restore the same rom that was backed up. That way, if you installed a app, wanted to try a new rom, made some change or whatever that made the rom unusable, you could just restore that rom to the last stable configuration that you backed up. You could have the rom on your sd and have a stable rom to flash back to anytime, so you dont have to restore everything anytime you screw up your phone and must HR. Since I have had my TP2, I have had to HR many times, caused by messin with stuff trial and error style, I think it would be a nice safety net, to be able to flash back to something stable, all set up the way it was when the backup was made. Then alls you would have to do is get your rom all set up once, and remember to back it up.

huggs said:
Right, I understand about reg entries not matching between roms, I'm saying to restore the same rom that was backed up. That way, if you installed a app, wanted to try a new rom, made some change or whatever that made the rom unusable, you could just restore that rom to the last stable configuration that you backed up. You could have the rom on your sd and have a stable rom to flash back to anytime, so you dont have to restore everything anytime you screw up your phone and must HR. Since I have had my TP2, I have had to HR many times, caused by messin with stuff trial and error style, I think it would be a nice safety net, to be able to flash back to something stable, all set up the way it was when the backup was made. Then alls you would have to do is get your rom all set up once, and remember to back it up.
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Oh, for THAT I recommend SPB Backup. It isn't free, but it does a good job. But it would not contain the flash contents, and all bets are off if you are attempting to overwrite a newer ROM. What I do is re-flash the ROM that matches the backup, and THEN restore the SPB backup file.