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I believe that I have read somwhere in this forum that there is a update/upgrade for the camera on blue angel which helps get clearer pics. I have done a search but can not find it. My actual version is2.21 Build 17084.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ERK_Patches_13x
So anybody tested them?
Does it make any difference..........i mean, there is from the starting point not so much to expect from a vga camera :?
I currently have 2.21 17084
Thanks for your quick reply! I just don't understand what this means:
"Note this is a higher build than but lower version than"
Which one is the latest/better version. Which one should I get for my blue angel, Fix_camera18157.sa.cab or Camera patch 10080401? I have camera version 2.21 build17084?
Do I just install the cab from the blue angel?
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I suppose it should have said
"Note this is a higher Version than the one above, but a lower build"
And yes, .cab files are just copied to the PPC and executet for installation. Note that the .cab file will delete itself on installation
Thank you! It did help quiet a bit. The pictures are sharper now
Xda II
hey guys.....
is there something like this for xda II as well ?
regards
jeetz
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Thank you! It did help quiet a bit. The pictures are sharper now
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so which cab file you did you get?
I just tested them both.
Now this is a mini test on only a few pics. in bad light, and a minimal difference on the pictures, but i found the 2.11 (Build 18157) to be just a ini mini little bit better, but in no way the same quality as you se on screen.
Anybody got an explanation on why its much better on screen (just with the camera active) than the actual picture that comes out of it??
For me it seems quite unlogical that the lens can capture a much better quality to put on the screen, but ones you take the picture the quality is much whorse.
How does this makes sence?
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I got this cab file: Camera patch 10080401
Anybody got an explanation on why its much better on screen (just with the camera active) than the actual picture that comes out of it??
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Maybe it's to do with the encoding?
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Maybe it's to do with the encoding?
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Yep, but why the h... not fiks it so it uses the lens full capasati.
Im beginning to get a bit frustrated over using so much money on a device thats not even finished.
I gotta say, that if SonyEricsson comes with a new P900 type of device thats more like the BA, i will consider turning back to Symbian.
Symbian has its own troubbles, but they are very productive when it comes to updates and getting things fixed, which definantly is not the case with HTC/Microsoft and probbably the 5000 companies they outsource to
Well I went form the P900 to the MDAIII, only since I got it free.
The P900 is a VERY nice phone, its small gives you addresses in and not just phone numbers, has a lot of good apps and when I go out I still use it due to the size.
The MDAIII, well its a PPC, and thanks to this forum you can infact fix a few of the issues like the language. Its far form perfect but its one hell of a toy if you want to waste time palying with it and trying to work out how to make it better.
I think it all about maket share, what is the point of having a PDA as a phone with a 5meg camera all in one unit if you can sell all three.
The technolagy is around, look at the Sony cameras. Shame but what can we do as the differences between men and boys remains the price of their toys.
Ha ha ha, I know MDAIIIUser........
It's just that I use it also as a tool in my business.
I have a lot of tools, and if one of them don't work as it's suppose to, it's just right back in their the next second.
I get no mercy when I'm out on a job, everyone don't get any mercy when they are on a job. If it's not finished........Well you simply just don't get the money. If it's not made by the regulations, you get a ticket to the court room, and don't expect it to anything else for you than cost a hell of a lot of money.
So you see, it's bugs me quite a bit that i buy a device at this price that’s not finished. There are major software troubles on it, making the phone part useless from time to time.
It's sold as BT compatible, what BT compatibility are they talking about??? Everyone is having trouble with it no matter what headset they are connecting to.
It don’t even have the most basic function found in every single phone sold world wide, a button lock that actually locks the device. I was sure that it was something I missed, just couldn’t believe that it weren’t in there.
And I don’t care if this is a PDA/Phone and not a Phone/PDA, they can’t be that thick in their heads that they don’t see this.
The hardware is bad, it’s getting more and more loose every day, the sliding keyboard is soon to become an auto sliding keyboard. Just hold it vertical and it will slide down all by itself.
I had the whole outer case replaced because the stylus was sliding out by itself. Now about 3 weeks later it’s so loose that it in the next week or so will be completely loose again. Then it’s in to service once again, me not having my tool which I spend a good amount of money on software for business use. Back to paper and then by hand doing the job in the office.
Now I’m guessing that this will happen again, that being the 3’rd time. Then it’s a full refund by law, and if the software isn’t ready at that time, I will claim a full refund or else ill just hand it over to my attorney. Buy a laptop for the car, a P900 again and then the irritation is over, and I can work in peace and quite.
The screen occasionally makes a high frequent sound when I’m talking in it, making it quite difficult to concentrate on the conversation. Unfortunately they didn’t have any new screens on stock when it was repaired the last time……….
I had absolutely no hopes for the camera when I got it, as I said earlier, what’s to expect of a VGA camera, and I don’t care, even though it would be nice to actually have one that could produce something just a little bit useful.
If I where the IT responsible person in a big company, I certainly wouldn’t recommend the boss to get 50 of these, the work load and support needed is simply just too much.
And all that said, ill properly end up with the MDA IV anyway *LOL* , what an idiot
Hum!!! Got out of bed on the wrong side or did wify have a headache??
Ok I admit the hardware is crap, my keyboard is auto eject at the momnet and the only thing I am REALY happy about is the fact that it has a metel case as I have dropped it (or was it threw it on the floor). My 5 yearl old girl has better developed teath than the BT on this thing. Yellow is a nice color if you realy like it but maybe not on a high depth screen. Don't even let me go down the rest, I will sound like you.
All I can hope for is the MDA 4 and that I get that one free as well. If its only to update wiki. Grin.
Thanks for your post put a big grin on my face.
Once there was a book "101 uses for a dead cat". Maybe we should start a thread for the BlueAngel:
101 uses for a dead BlueAngle
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and hope that NOBODY postes the paper wheight idea.
Well let’s not take it all out on the phone.
I think it would be more fair to get that book out with the title “101 uses for a BA owners head”.
It’s going to be the worlds most paperless book ever sold :lol:
Well maybe we could get some highly respected brain schrinks expert opinion in there, then it at least would have one page, “I simply do not now”
does anybody know or has anyone heard anything about the touch pro 2 on at&t? when i saw HTC's leaked '09 lineup, it said the barium was for at&t, and the barium looks like the TP2. i read on the at&t forum that the barium indeed is the TP2 for at&t. if this is true i really hope it doesnt look the way it did in the leak. i hope it looks just like the TP2 on the htc website. i mean cmon, the barium has a green keyboard! anyway, if anyone knows of any tips or has any info, please reply!
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does anybody know or has anyone heard anything about the touch pro 2 on at&t? when i saw HTC's leaked '09 lineup, it said the barium was for at&t, and the barium looks like the TP2. i read on the at&t forum that the barium indeed is the TP2 for at&t. if this is true i really hope it doesnt look the way it did in the leak. i hope it looks just like the TP2 on the htc website. i mean cmon, the barium has a green keyboard! anyway, if anyone knows of any tips or has any info, please reply!
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LOL sorry but dont worry I dought that it will have a green keybaord, but if it does... lol
but I think T-mobile messed up the design too but it seems more realistic, but like seriously why do they do tha?t HTC knows what they're doing you don't have to make the design worse to make the phone nique, but oh well I wich t-mobile didnt mess up the back, and also the front doesnt look NEARLY as good either, and in leaked pics they took off the crhome part on the side, like OMG THEY COMPLETELY RUINED THE FRAME but oh well, I guess its not that it looks bad its just that it looks ugly next to the original touch pro 2 but lol i still dont think the [email protected] version will have a green keyboard
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LOL sorry but dont worry I dought that it will have a green keybaord, but if it does... lol
but I think T-mobile messed up the design too but it seems more realistic, but like seriously why do they do tha?t HTC knows what they're doing you don't have to make the design worse to make the phone nique, but oh well I wich t-mobile didnt mess up the back, and also the front doesnt look NEARLY as good either, and in leaked pics they took off the crhome part on the side, like OMG THEY COMPLETELY RUINED THE FRAME but oh well, I guess its not that it looks bad its just that it looks ugly next to the original touch pro 2 but lol i still dont think the [email protected] version will have a green keyboard
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man I really hope it doesn't have a green keyboard. I looked at pics of other carriers too, including AT&T. it doesn't even look like the front facing camera is there anymore. and the back doesn't look anything like the HTC branded model. I like the whole grille thing! and the silver back with black front. if carriers wanna make the phones they release unique, they shouldn't change so much of the hardware and the appearance. like you said, HTC's phones are already well-designed. but the carriers mess them up.
and link278, you're lucky! tmobile is the first carrier to announce the TP2 (supposedly) I hope AT&T is next!! I need an upgrade
are u talking about this pic?
I hope they dont do that because this phone is supposed to be targeted towards enterprise (business) and making it green gives it a childish look. regardless, i'd still buy it.
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are u talking about this pic?
I hope they dont do that because this phone is supposed to be targeted towards enterprise (business) and making it green gives it a childish look. regardless, i'd still buy it.
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yep. that picture. yeah I agree I will still buy when it comes out (I already saved up enough money ). but they better not make it green. you reassured me I didn't really think about the business aspect of it.
I just wish I knew when exactly it would hit us AT&T users. I'm getting anxious
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and link278, you're lucky! tmobile is the first carrier to announce the TP2 (supposedly) I hope AT&T is next!! I need an upgrade
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thanks but look at these pic:
that d474rpr put up, like really t-mobile did mess up the back too
http://d474rpr.com/?p=120
adn they messed up the front too:
http://www.brighthand.com/assets/9982.jpg
and according to this the front and back wasnt enough they had to mess up the side too:
http://www.new-cell-phones.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/htc-tungsten-cell-phone-t-mobile.jpg
I loved the original design why do carriers have to mess up the designs?
but like fone_fanatic said I will still get it lol.
but if it had a green keybaord, (which I am pretty sure wont happen) I would stick with my tilt till something better looking came around cause that would look really stuiped and kinda ugly it doesnt make sence to have a black sleek phone and then this dull green keybaord i nthe middle of it, I really like the metallic black and silver, that's my favorite color combo but whatever its not that bad its just disapointing I guess I could live with it. (The t-mobile design not a green keyboard lol)
No US carrier has announced the TP2 except Sprint and they were just internal sheets. Now, someone who leaked a few release dates for T-Mobile seems to be right on par. The HTC maple (July 1) just entered the FCC and seems to match up with was has been expected. The TP2 has yet to show anything at the FCC except a European/Asian model. Why the FCC has stats on a foreign model phone, I don't know but whatever. It seems if July 22nd is the correct date... T-Mobile will be the first to release the TP2 (the first "first" in US carrier history, lol)
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thanks but look at these pic:
that d474rpr put up, like really t-mobile did mess up the back too
http://d474rpr.com/?p=120
adn they messed up the front too:
http://www.brighthand.com/assets/9982.jpg
and according to this the front and back wasnt enough they had to mess up the side too:
http://www.new-cell-phones.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/htc-tungsten-cell-phone-t-mobile.jpg
I loved the original design why do carriers have to mess up the designs?
but like fone_fanatic said I will still get it lol.
but if it had a green keybaord, (which I am pretty sure wont happen) I would stick with my tilt till something better looking came around cause that would look really stuiped and kinda ugly it doesnt make sence to have a black sleek phone and then this dull green keybaord i nthe middle of it, I really like the metallic black and silver, that's my favorite color combo but whatever its not that bad its just disapointing I guess I could live with it. (The t-mobile design not a green keyboard lol)
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What stood out to me on those pics at least was that the front facing camera is still there. However, that may just be a European T-Mobile thing. Still, I'm a little positive about it. That front facing camera could affect my next choice of carrier.
This is one of the reasons I am coming off T-Mobile and going to but the pro2 unbranded. They have to mess with everything and turn everything on your phone pink. I don't even like pink as a colour.
it's not only tmobile that messes around with phones' appearance. all carriers LOVE to make the phones unique, when HTC has already designed them well. I'm gonna buy the phone regardless; I just hope the keyboard isn't some wacked out color like green or pink or whatever.
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This is one of the reasons I am coming off T-Mobile and going to but the pro2 unbranded. They have to mess with everything and turn everything on your phone pink. I don't even like pink as a colour.
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lol t-mobile isnt making it pink its gonna be all black
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it's not only tmobile that messes around with phones' appearance. all carriers LOVE to make the phones unique, when HTC has already designed them well. I'm gonna buy the phone regardless; I just hope the keyboard isn't some wacked out color like green or pink or whatever.
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I know I still want it too, I guess it still looks pretty nice, and alot better than a kaiser, but honestly, why do they have to make it unique by making it look worse? Like seriously HTC does know what they are doing why doesnt t-mobile just stick to giving people reception and puttign there name on the phone I dont mind T-mobile written on the phone but it looked so nice before, it had chrome on the sides, metalic black front and they ruined the buttons on hte fron too even thought its still metalic black, and also the back doesnt look nearly as good but oh well I should just be happy that it actually is coming to t-mobile but the original design made it the best looking phone that I have ever seen.
The TP2 is definitely in the cards for me as soon as it becomes available for AT&T. Has anyone seen a posted specualtion on that arrival date? I believe I read somewhere it could be as late as November for the TP2 from AT&T. If it is that long away... at least that gives me more time to save up some money. Because when it is launched for AT&T, and if it is green as the Barium pics show, that's enough to make me pay double the price to have HTC's unbranded clean looking version. If AT&T doesn't hack it up, then I'll be glad to purchase it through them.
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The TP2 is definitely in the cards for me as soon as it becomes available for AT&T. Has anyone seen a posted specualtion on that arrival date? I believe I read somewhere it could be as late as November for the TP2 from AT&T. If it is that long away... at least that gives me more time to save up some money. Because when it is launched for AT&T, and if it is green as the Barium pics show, that's enough to make me pay double the price to have HTC's unbranded clean looking version. If AT&T doesn't hack it up, then I'll be glad to purchase it through them.
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i haven't heard anything regarding a definite release date for the TP2 on AT&T. but i have heard rumors that it will come out around the same time of the year that the tilt came out, which is october/november. it's late, but as long as it comes out i'm fine with it. like you said, it'll give us time to save up money. this phone IS coming out for AT&T right? Tilt 2??
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I hope they dont do that because this phone is supposed to be targeted towards enterprise (business) and making it green gives it a childish look. regardless, i'd still buy it.
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More hippie/hacker than childish, but either way your point stands. I don't mind the back too much personally, but that keyboard is over the top. I'd prefer something a little more subtle.
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man I really hope it doesn't have a green keyboard. I looked at pics of other carriers too, including AT&T. it doesn't even look like the front facing camera is there anymore. and the back doesn't look anything like the HTC branded model. I like the whole grille thing! and the silver back with black front. if carriers wanna make the phones they release unique, they shouldn't change so much of the hardware and the appearance. like you said, HTC's phones are already well-designed. but the carriers mess them up.
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The reason there is no front-facing camera on the TP2 is because no US carrier supports video calling.. yet
Are there any specs for the barium, yet? Like, does the screen tilt? tv-out?etc.?
i've been really curious about something: whats the deal with sim unlocked phones? if i buy a TP2 sim unlocked, i'd be able to use it with any carrier that has a sim card, correct? but my question is, would i be able to use the carriers bands with the phone? like, if i buy the TP2 and transfer my sim card from my tilt to the TP2, would i still get at&t's 3G network? i've never actually known the answer to this :/
It depends if the phone has the compatible frequencies. It usually will have the correct 3G frequencies if it's officially released in that country. Like the Kaiser has support for every frequency set you'd ever need, because it was released internationally, unlike the Touch HD, for example. I'm planning to buy my Touch Pro2 unlocked this time, so I don't have to put up with stupid AT&T. They always manage to ruin the devices in some way, whether it be the keyboard, the color, the Manilla 3D, or the bloatware, or some other travesty.
And, after rambling for a good paragraph or so, the short answer is yes, it should work on AT&T's 3G bands because it's being officially released in the US (confirmed by HTC on its twitter account).
Dave
Looks like we have a verified date (which pretty much everyone's seen) for T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-touch-pro-2-coming-august-12th.html
The real question is, where does AT&T fit in here? 2 Weeks after? 1 Month after? 2 Months after? 3 Months after? Never? We've seen all of those times speculated, but no real leads. Get on the ball AT&T; we are waiting!
ATT never announce release date for their phone unless its the iphone...so if its release it we gonna find out the day of or maybe a week ahead if lucky
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ATT never announce release date for their phone unless its the iphone...so if its release it we gonna find out the day of or maybe a week ahead if lucky
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unless of coarse something get leaked right?
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Well... we've seen photos leaked of all the other US carriers' versions... but not AT&T. If a PICTURE hasn't even been leaked yet, I have to doubt how much AT&T leakage we'll be hearing.
... whoa, that sounded like a problem for a doctor to look at...
I've seen photos...
http://htc-phones.net/att-warhawk-and-fortress-htc-touch-diamond2-and-pro2-comming.html
Why mess with the pretty silver... =/ and the keyboard...again...
These aren't photos, they are concept mock-ups.
Photos refer to actual photos of the device, such as in the wild, like how the T-Mobile, Sprint, and Verizon versions were first shown.
Well they are photos to me.
Your definition of photos might refer to "in the wild".
I'm pretty sure the device will look exactly like that.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that if we haven't seen any blurry cam/ phone on jeans picture/ in the wild photos the phone isn't coming in the near future.
What I posted is definitively leaked and definitively a photo IMO...
Also if T-Mo's TP2 got to FCC April 1st and got released August 12.
Fortress got to FCC June 5th, and looking at the Fuze release, I wouldn't expect the phone to hit ATT before September/October but this is pure speculation from my part.
I believe the leaked slide contained a render. Although I do not have a link to it, I have seen a very similar render of a TP2 with the red/yellow look and a 5 row keyboard, the exact same as the Euro Unlocked TP2 but with the color change. I don't know if it was supposed to be a more recent render of the At&t version or not (It did not have an At&t logo on it, but the image used on the slide did not either). I believe the image used was probably an early concept presented to At&t and just included in the slide to give an idea of the design.
To summarize, I think the slide image is an old HTC render given to At&t and the actual phone may retain the color scheme, but the keyboard will change and we don't know about a front-facing camera or a 3.5mm audio jack.
Although I am hoping for a mid to late August release, I actually agree that it will probably be closer to your expected September/October.
Ya its kinda weird because last year we saw many leaked photos of the fuze. There were constant rumors, leaked rebate sheets, etc months before the release. It is worrying that we have yet to hear a single word about this device..
"I'm pretty sure the device will look exactly like that."
You expect the letter z on the top row? A simple search would lead to many, many discussions of that particular photo... and you may be less inclined to back it as proof after reading them.
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"I'm pretty sure the device will look exactly like that."
You expect the letter z on the top row? A simple search would lead to many, many discussions of that particular photo... and you may be less inclined to back it as proof after reading them.
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Oh crap,
This statement was misguided. I didn't use this slide as proof either, but with ATT tendency to mess with the keyboard, and to favor a "keypad" on the fuze instead the top row numbers. With the extra space I could see them having this keypad, so I will revise my statement:
I wouln't be surprised if the final design is similar to that.
It's also true that "leakage" and info has been pretty scarce compared to the Fuze, but again the Fuze did come later in November...
All we have for the Fortress is the name, and that it did hit FCC...
heh, easy one to miss - I'm glad you seem to have taken my comment as it was intended (to be on the humorous side, not the condescending side ).
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I've seen photos...
http://htc-phones.net/att-warhawk-and-fortress-htc-touch-diamond2-and-pro2-comming.html
Why mess with the pretty silver... =/ and the keyboard...again...
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Let's hope they do change the Fortress from these photos.....no 3.5 mm jack on these. Either way, myself and may others are in dyer need of an upgrade. People, don't take the bait and be fooled and hastily jump for the Iphone 3Gs. Let's all wait it out and put the pressure on AT&T to get with it.
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I believe the leaked slide contained a render. Although I do not have a link to it, I have seen a very similar render of a TP2 with the red/yellow look and a 5 row keyboard, the exact same as the Euro Unlocked TP2 but with the color change. I don't know if it was supposed to be a more recent render of the At&t version or not (It did not have an At&t logo on it, but the image used on the slide did not either). I believe the image used was probably an early concept presented to At&t and just included in the slide to give an idea of the design.
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I've seen that render (or was it a render? I bet so) too - it pretty much looked exactly like the Euro, just with the color scheme of the previous linked render. Probably just someone's take on what is closer to reality. Can't find a link to it to share with you guys, sorry!
I too am worried about the lack of in the wild photos. I was suspecting that Sprint and Verizon were further off from releasing the TP2 than AT&T was, but maybe I'm wrong.
Personally I don't mind the color scheme of that weird looking render. But I'm pretty much forced to go with AT&T because of institutional discounts... it'd just be way more expensive to go with a different carrier just to get the TP2.
Yeah, the thing is I'm pretty sure the render with the same color scheme was actually released before the At&t slide containing the Fortress was leaked. I think that render was even used in some news outlet's report on HTC making the Touch Pro 2.
Maybe that color scheme is just the first one HTC made and then changed it for all the actual models produced, realizing the colors were kind of crazy for a business phone (the group the phone is marketed to). I don't mind the color either (it reminds me of Iron Man and he is my favorite comic book superhero ). I think we may end up with another slick black model, similar to the Fuze, though.
I just hope they will keep the front-facing camera; I thought At&t was going to start changing the video share service to a video calling service. If they add the 3.5mm jack in that would be cool too.
What is with att? I can remember when they were the first to release the sliding keyboards before the rest. The 8x25's were advance when they were released considiering the offering of t-moble and sprint. There was to official release date and the restocking date. The iphone really crap up the situation. They still release the 8x25's along side during thier command the blackberry market. Windows Moble has yet to crack it even with palm's settling down. The iphone is here to stay and may even change the way we want in a phone. However when it comes to pdas, the iphone will not dominate with it's current OS. Blackberry commands because of bulk corporate sales. The sales of the Tpro duce will not hamper the sales of the iphone. I hope a official picture is leaked soon. August is fast approaching and no news is not good news.
Hey guys.
Strange post perhaps, but Iv always loved my HTC Devices.
So tomorrow my Touch Pro 2 will arrive, when I told my friends this and showed them the pictures. They laughed and said I was just fighting against getting an Iphone.
I believe I have made an informed decision, mostly because I can choose what hardware I want, (in this case a proper keyboard and bigger screen). And also because I can use so many free apps for WM6.1 that the iphone users have to pay for.
So please can you give me some more ammunition so that I can stop losing the arguments about why the iphone fails. Cheers.
Find new friends with better taste in phones?
You cant really use the bigger screen size argument. Just a beautiful input device and ability to customize it to the hilt.
Well there's always the 1 step behind the times arguement...I mean Iphones aren't as hi-tech as many of HTC's phones...oh...and you can change your batteries or add memory with cards...
I mean Iphones aren't as hi-tech as many of HTC's phones.
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You are getting confused with almost any manufacturer apart from HTC.
Iphones can't multitask, not even the new ones.
The screen isn't as "responsive" as the iphone, but you can use a stylus for precision (like making a doodle with the stylus ) and if you live in a cold climate, you can wear gloves and still use your phone. With capacitive screens like the iphone you gave to take your gloves off. Really annoying if you use them.
You don't have to jailbreak it to get many of the things working. And supposedly flash is coming to Windows Mobile first if I remember correctly (by first I mean before the iphone).
You can use it with any network you want (if it's unlocked) and if it's a branded version, you can unlock it without fear of bricking it after an upgrade.
That's just what comes to mind.
Oh, the screen is .1 inches bigger. Not really enough to make an arguement. But it does have more than twice the resolution, which is a goodo point as images can be clearer and reading texts won't tire your eyes as much.
Why do you care what your friends think?
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Because I constantly seek validation and enjoy being right? Im not an armchair psychologist.
I can't stand the smugness of the iphone user trying to shove the latest nose flute app in my face, "do you have Excel?" I ask.
"Yes" replies the iphone user as they connect to the apps store and pay £15 for the most essential of software on a business phone.
I think my biggest reason for liking the touch pro 2 is that it just looks stunning with the screen on. Everyone has seen the iphone now, and I like to be different.
Cheers for the replies guys.
Yes, there are just too many iPhones on the street - no "WOW" factor these days. I find the pro2 can turn quite a few heads, especially when I pull out the keyboard and start typing... mind you, someone asked me once where I bought my iPhone with a keyboard!!
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Hey guys.
Strange post perhaps, but Iv always loved my HTC Devices.
So tomorrow my Touch Pro 2 will arrive, when I told my friends this and showed them the pictures. They laughed and said I was just fighting against getting an Iphone.
I believe I have made an informed decision, mostly because I can choose what hardware I want, (in this case a proper keyboard and bigger screen). And also because I can use so many free apps for WM6.1 that the iphone users have to pay for.
So please can you give me some more ammunition so that I can stop losing the arguments about why the iphone fails. Cheers.
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To not mention again read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537219&highlight=iphone
The IPhone is too common. It also means you surrender too much rights to Apple. They control what you should use. They ignore you and work at their decided schedule. "Cut and paste" is a new feature -- only idiots will believe that.
"There is no vulnerability." -- between Iphone 3G and 3GS, Apple plugged 48 holes.
The battery overheats fast. The screen wears out fast. The material used to maufacture the IPhone is cheap stuff.
IPhone is totally hopeless without connectivity. At the least, TP2 can still be useful.
The famous Appstore! -- How many apps do you really use? Many of the apps are "fractured" because Apple does not allow the developers to add in some features for fear of opening up their closed ecology.
You need more?
Agree with above that the App Store is overrated. I have an iPod Touch, and I have about 2 or 3 useful 3rd party apps. Everything else are just time wasters.
I have a couple reasons why I wouldn't buy an fruitphone.
1. Useless homescreen. The lockscreen shows the date/time. Once unlocked, you just have grids of icons. You have counters that show number of new messages, but no previews. Notifications of new messages and appointments really suck.
2. Terrible multi tasking. Let's say I was wasting my time with a game on my fruitphone while listening to music. You can forward or rewind tracks by double pressing the one button to bring up the music controls. But you can't go into the music app to change your music and go back to the game! That's just dumb.
3. Internet browsing. You can't open links in new tabs! No text reflow. That means you have to use landscape mode if you want to zoom in to read the text and you don't want to scroll horizontally. Also, no full screen view in browser. You always have the top/bottom bars.
4. Low resolution display. Text can't easily be read in zoomed out web pages. Photos look terribly pixelated.
andypa1 said:
Hey guys.
So tomorrow my Touch Pro 2 will arrive, when I told my friends this and showed them the pictures. They laughed and said I was just fighting against getting an Iphone.
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Why do you have sheeps as friends...
People have posted some really good points on this thread like TP2 can
- multitask apps
- a monster text machine
- a monster email machine
- a full keyboard
- two mics with noise cancelling abilities
- two speakers for better loudspeaker calls
- better wvga screen (better resolution screen)
- Touch flow 3d is so so smooth(people friendly)
- excellent notifications screen
- better calling options
- better word processor apps like power point, word, excel
- a crap crap crap load of more software for Wndows mobile than iphone will ever have
-the device looks better IMO
But you cant really fault the iphone that much. It is a very pretty with better processor, same ram, bigger onboard harddrive, 3.5mm jack. The OS for both devices are totally different. But in all honesty WM is better than iphone OS BUT Android is better than WM and IS the future of the mobile phone generation....FYI
I agree with the above post. Check out the N900 phone too, its OS is a pseudo linux desktop and its mobile front is very finger friendly looking at youtube.
I am looking at the TP2 myself despite having an iphone. The iphone isn't a very good organizer partly because of its notification/background app. problem, I still haven't got used to the soft keyboard on a 3.5'' device after a year of use - hinders alot of communication and productivity for me personally, the resolution of the screen affects my PDF reading and the lack of bluetooth signalling stops me adding mice/keyboards.
This forum also offers a lot of ROM's too. Although there is a lot to be said for the iphone (its best software comes supplied and the rest can easily be downloaded from the appstore/cydia mostly for free or next to nothing) and no doubt I will have to encounter the same annoyances i had with my touch diamond/kaiser back in Winmo land. I have no doubt for most leisure users who have mastered the soft iphone keyboard that its probably the most fun and beneficial phone for them though.
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To not mention again read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537219&highlight=iphone
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yes, who could forget about a good ol' fashioned IPhone bashing thread.
you shouldn't let others opinions have an effect on what you want. different strokes for different folks. it's not like either the Tp2 or the IPhone are bad phones.
yes, you can make fun of them for not having the ability to multitask, not being able to sideload applications, interchangeable batteries etc.
just remember it's not wise to throw stones from a glass house.
just ask your friend to change something on your phone, then you do it...tell them to type something, then you type it, ask them what ap they have, then you go get it for free...I do it ALL DAY to my friends that have it, they hate pulling their iphones out now lol. The best is "can you tether? Yeah! For free? AH!!! YOUR PHONE IS CRAP! lol HTC wins. BUT............the iPhone does kill every other device in UI processing, hands down which IMO is a HUGE player in satisfaction. If you can do with 10-30fps UI, HTC with TF3D would be the better choice.
a huge issue for me was free internet tethering. I think with the new 3GS you can do this - but it costs an EXTRA £14.95 per month to O2 for the lowest deal! What a ripoff. That and the pull out keyboard are prob the main things for me.
There's an article at MSN that may be helpful....
Also, the Iphone loudspeaker is so-so despite calling itself a media machine.
The resolution is horrid.
The sound from the headphone is soft.
Voice command from BT definitely not working.
How do I know all these, I own a Iphone 3GS. Why don't I get rid of it? Too ashame to sell it to someone and have him curse me for selling him a lemon (despite it namesake).
Just saw the photo on sprint.com. For months I've been seeing the TP2 online showing the svelte "race track" battery door design and silver metallic color. But no, sprint had to go and change it - for the WORSE. I mean it looks like it was shot with a 12 gauge from an odd angle.
I won't even bring up the halloween color scheme.
http://www.new-cell-phones.org/sprint-htc-touch-pro2-pictures.html
Is there some "fixing things that aren't broken" department at Sprint? Do they get bonuses for making elegant phones look ugly?
Hey Sprint, why not make it give an electric shock whenever touched? How about purple zebra stripes?
Fluorescent green?
Polka dots!
I don't mean to go on and on but damn they are idiots.
don't care about the look too much, it's ok to me. maybe the holes are there to air out sweaty palms? LOL. -- but....
WTF ARE THEY SMOKING?! CHARGING $450 - $100 MIR = $350?!
when T-Mo and Verizon are both $200 OTD?!?!
I think some of these designs are dictated by the US pricing structure for these phones. Few users in the US by an unsubsidized phone and those phones have to all match pretty closely in price with competitors.
That ends up putting the carriers under pressure to minimize the overall price of the phone by cheaping out on the design. Thereby, reducing the amount that they have to subsidize. Front facing cameras, high megapixel cameras, sleek case designs etc all become victims of a carrier's attempt to minimize their subsidy costs.
It is a bad system for high end phones but works well for lower end phones. Unfortunately, most of us have been conditioned to this pricing scheme which is why some many US customers are loathe to pay for an unlocked phone.
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I'll tell you what I find hilarious about the Sprint TP2... the complete lack of a CTRL key. Brilliant idea to take all your CTRL key short cuts right out of Windows!
I'm sure flashing to an OEM HTC ROM will remap the keyboard to get it back, but still, you have to wonder who at Sprint thought dedicated E-Mail and SMS/MMS keys were important enough to cripple functionality right out of the box.
LOL!!! thats horrible.
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I'll tell you what I find hilarious about the Sprint TP2... the complete lack of a CTRL key. Brilliant idea to take all your CTRL key short cuts right out of Windows!
I'm sure flashing to an OEM HTC ROM will remap the keyboard to get it back, but still, you have to wonder who at Sprint thought dedicated E-Mail and SMS/MMS keys were important enough to cripple functionality right out of the box.
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Same on the Telus version - but some right-on brother on this forum created first the keyboard configurator for the GSM version, now has one for CDMA/GSM! I've remapped the SMS and the mail keys to CTL and ALT.
Cheers
Link please!
wow when i looked at sprints site last night it was 320 out the door with no mir, guess someone messed up.
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Link please!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
lol at the battery cover, i thought my tmobile one was bad.
lol what a bunch of losers
Was it HTC or Sprint who f**ked up Internet Explorer??
On my previous three devices (Mogul, Diamond and Touch Pro), I used PIE to access my company's apps via Citrix.
Now, if I tap on any of the icons on that Apps page for my company, nothing happens...
Thanks Sprint/HTC...